Why do you ask, James?
You say you are 100%, ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE that National will win the election; you say so, ad nauseum,
so, knowing in your heart of hearts, as you say you do, that there won’t be a “labour – nzf government”, why do you ask?
’cause you’re a troll, that’s why.
A hypocritical troll (the worst kind)
Nope Robert’s comment was perfectly appropriate. Like it or lump it this is MMP. Deals will have to happen. National will not be able to rule with its puppet parties.
So it is good that you post this comment but it displays a high degree of trolling …
Don’t be daft. That’s written by a conservative Labourite who would resist a strong Green govt any way he could. Including making shit up about the Greens as a way of stirring fear. This is the vanguard of old centrist Labour who would rather lose an election than have the Greens in power and/or pulling us left.
Think it through. If the National can’t form a govt, and afaik as the incumbent they get first crack at it, then it comes down to Labour. If NZF refuses a deal with L/G, why are the Greens to be blamed for that? If NZF has the bigger numbers, and chooses Labour over Nact, then it’s on them if they won’t accept the Greens. How come Trotter isn’t exploring that scenario? Because he has an agenda.
What the Greens said on the weekend, was that there will be no deal that doesn’t include the wellbeing of families and the environment. That’s perfectly reasonable given their values and reason for being in parliament. There is no guarantee pre-election of any party giving C and S. Are you really suggesting that parties should agree to such a thing before voting?
Just to correct you weka. What the green mp said was:
“The memorandum of understanding with Labour is the foundation for building the next government. However, if we were not part of the coalition, we would not accept a Labour-New Zealand First government and certainly not a National-New Zealand First government. Neither will be acceptable to the Greens. ”
So he is very clear they won’t accept a labour – greens government.
So what happens if Winston says he won’t go with labour should the greens be in the government? Could be part of his consequences from the other day.
not sure what you are meaning James. Why would Labour do a deal with NZF that excluded the Greens but expected them to provide C and S?
“So what happens if Winston says he won’t go with labour should the greens be in the government? Could be part of his consequences from the other day.”
I don’t think Peters would do that either. I can’t think of any NZ politician that would hold the country to ransom that way if it meant forcing a new election. But if Peters did do that, how is that the GP’s fault? (that’s what Trotter is implying).
Peters the other day was just his usual bluster.
I have to wonder too if Trotter is trying to make things dirtier than they already are.
I don’t know why that is so hard for people to get their head around. Probably 2 decades of Peters playing stupid games with MMP, some people now think that’s the only way it can be done.
“wellbeing of families and the environment”, just about any party could say that. What matters is the actual policies.
For instance, are the Greens insisting on a reduction of dairy herd by 20%, or on a more positive note, the effective removal of GST on electric vehicles (presumably by way of a grant to purchasers)? In short do the Greens have actual bottom lines in terms of policy, or not.
Why are you asking me rather than the Green Party Wayne? I suggest you watch the launch videos. Turei was clear that there would be compromises in policy but not values in order to be part of a Labour led govt.
I’m not sure there’s any kind of “first crack at it”. Hopefully someone with actual NZ constitutional expertise will clarify. I was under the impression that after the election the previous government kept the necessary functions ticking over in a caretaker capacity until someone fronts up to the Governor General and says we’ve got the numbers to form a government. Then the GG does whatever it is needs to be done to get the ball rolling.
No idea what the constitutional situation would be nor how it would play out if Little had to say I can’t form a government coz Winnie and the Greens won’t play together, and English had to say I can’t form a government coz none of the other parties will play with me. Anyone know who gets to call for a new election and what the conditions are to make the call?
I honestly doubt it would come to that, but I expect much would depend on who did the framing and how, including what the MSM did. Blame is a big part of NZ culture currently. We’re seeing it already in Trotter’s pre-emptive piece.
The big advantage the Greens have this election is they’ve been able to say exactly where they stand on coalitions. Not to National and Act. Enthusiastic yes to Labour but the Greens still need max MPs for a truly progressive govt. Yes if we really have to to NZF. Everyone know where they stand.
NZF on the other hand is tied into its historical bollocks re not saying beforehand what it will do. I really hope that one bites them hard. But as always, it’s going to depend on whether Labour step up.
Re first crack, it would be good to clarify. I understood in the UK that the Conservatives got first crack but technically nothing would stop Corbyn from also putting forward a proposal to the Queen. So maybe it’s convention rather than law. But I have a feeling from past elections here that there is something similar.
yes, I followed the links. Coates didn’t say what Trotter thought. They were Trotter’s thoughts not Coates’.
“You think that’s an accurate description of Trots ????”
When we’re talking about a shifting spectrum I guess it’s relative. He doesn’t strike me as socially liberal in the context of the left. So conservative Labour makes sense to me. Maybe I’m talking about his behaviour more than his beliefs /shrug.
Wow, Trotter’s really got it in for the Green Party – his latest couple of posts (this one from the other day is just as irrationally anti-Green) suggest he really, really doesn’t like them. Still, given it’s Trots, his opposition might well reassure them they’re on the right path…
If the sixteenth century Protestant leader, Henry of Navarre (later to become the very Catholic Henry IV of France) was willing to concede that “Paris is worth a mass”, then Metiria Turei should be willing to concede that the Ninth Floor of the Beehive is worth biting her tongue over Winston’s shortcomings.
But Coates’s words imply exactly what Trotter concludes. Has Coates misspoken and the other Greens not yet realised? Or because he is not a party leader they think it will not be noticed? This will probably blow over because few will be bothered to look into it deeply enough. But I think some sort of clarification might be needed if it becomes widely publicised. (It probably won’t.)
Let’s take it simply:
There are a number of likely governing options after the election:
Nact
N/NZ1
Lab/grn
lab/nz1/grn
lab/nz1.
According to Coates and other comments the greens will not support nact, nat/nz1, or lab/nz1.
Their response to the immigration policy means that they will be looking for NZ1 to compromise on that more than they compromise on it, if a lab/grn/nz1 govt will happen.
If lab/nz1 need the support of the greens to govern, the greens will be at the cabinet table.
The question arises as to whether nat need only nz1 to govern, and in that case will nz1 play nat and lab/grn against each other? Of course they will. Whether this means they’ll prioritise their immigration policy over baubles for peters and shane jones? That’s anyone’s guess.
“But Coates’s words imply exactly what Trotter concludes”
No, Trotter is making that up (I say making it up, unlike others, because he’s a very experienced political commentator who is quite capable of understand what the GP are doing).
If you listen to what the Greens have been saying in the past week, they’re laying out boundaries. If you want them in govt, there are limits. They’re not going to prop up a govt they fundamentally disagree with. Before it was National. Now it’s National or NZF/L. That doesn’t mean a government *can’t be formed. Why would you assume that?
If Nat or Nat/NZF or NZF/L can form without the Greens, that’s on them. But don’t expect the Greens to offer C and S to a govt that isn’t progressive. Lefties who want to vote NZF now will be under no illusions as to what that means. Peters/NZF also have choices here. NZF aren’t being ruled out of a L/G coalition.
OK, possibly true as you and McFlock put it, but it is asking a lot for all the public to get it. Luckily, few people are probably thinking about it at this stage.
Yes, this is why I am so unimpressed with Trotter. Zero commitment to telling the truth there. And he is widely read, I just hope this doesn’t go out in his newspaper column 🙁
Anyone else seen this – just came up on a feed I follow. Another shady Key deal. Even gone this man keeps on giving. By definition is this not liberalism supporting liberalism.
If this is true our media has to admit – epic fail.
From the article:
“It has been revealed that millions of New Zealand taxpayer dollars have been donated by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade (MFAT) to Hillary Clinton’s charity, the Clinton Health Access Initiative (CHAI), a non-profit organisation created from the Clinton Foundation with the stated goal to reduce HIV/AIDs in Africa.
An MFAT spokesman confirmed to the NBR that between January 2010 and June 2016, $7.7 million of taxpayer funds had already been donated and another $6 million was to follow, keeping to a pledge to donate $13.7 million made by the government organisation in 2013.”
So the donations were to a charity that is not the Clinton Foundation that is trying to reduce HIV/AIDs in Africa. Charitable projects can be bedeviled by fragmented donors all wanting different publicity – as I understand it the Clinton initiative is the only effective way of getting into some countries – they are large enough that is is best to work with them that try and run alongside. Whether it is better than some of the National aid programme initiatives – effectively we will donate money for you to buy these goods from us that may not otherwise be a top priority for you” is another issue entirely, but there is no evidence that speaking fees are even linked to the Clinton Foundation (apparently one of the “cleanest” charities in America) – and this is a separate charitable fund.
I don’t know anything about Accmag, but as far as I am concerned the case is not proven.
The important thing to note is the Trotsker used many important sounding words and is clearly more cleverer than the oiks who are ignorant of Greek history.
420, 4:20, or 4/20 (pronounced four-twenty) is a code-term in cannabis culture that refers to the consumption of cannabis, especially smoking cannabis around the time 4:20 p.m. (or 16:20 in 24-hour notation) and smoking and celebrating cannabis on the date April 20 (which is 4/20 in U.S. form)
Rumours abound as to it’s origin in California (either because stoners would meet after school – 4:20pm- or because it was [allegedly] a police number code for disorderly group of youths).
In Dunedin it was(is?) an event to smoke up in a crowd as a “protest”. Generally ignored until they started being dicks about it and claiming that the police weren’t doing their job (as well as kids turning up in school uniform), at which point the cops arrested a couple of hippies who then complained that the cops were doing their job.
Dunno whether they still do it. Complete freak show. I know a few normal people who smoke mj – done it myself on occasion – it’s a pity the most visible legalisation activists are dickheads or a freak show.
“And then Winston gets all high and mighty when called on his racism? Please. Nazis know a racist when they see one, and that’s why they support Winston. But the result is that no-one else should.
(Not that this is any great surprise: the National Front – actual, open Nazis – publicly endorsed Winston in 2005, and in 2011, and in 2014 reminded him that “We have had NF supporters working hard for NZ first from its beginning”. So alt-right support for NZFirst is absolutely consistent with the positions of both groups).”
Mr Trotter would appear to have company (of a sort)….
“Trust the Greens to be the only ones to ripple the pond. With good reason, they’ve concluded the return of Jones has put a sizeable crimp into the Greens’ plans to enter into formal coalition with Labour. With nothing much to lose – and with the related need to fire up its own base – Greens co-leader Metiria Turei has chosen to take New Zealand First head on. To all intents, we’re watching a re-run of 2005, when Helen Clark chose Peters ahead of the Greens. Back then, Labour decided to form a coalition partner of the centre, instead of heading leftwards. Anyone voting Labour this year needs to be aware of the potential for history to repeat itself.”
Yeah. But it’s alright. It’s sexy. According to the “Guardian” there’s no proof it has anything to do with global warming and they’ve got real pumping Hollywood type music on their vid.
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The National-led Government continues its fiscal jiggery pokery with its Pharmac announcement today, Labour Health spokesperson Ayesha Verrall says. “The government has increased Pharmac funding but conceded it will only make minimal increases in access to medicine”, said Ayesha Verrall “This is far from the bold promises made to fund ...
This afternoon’s interim Waitangi Tribunal report must be taken seriously as it affects our most vulnerable children, Labour children’s spokesperson Willow-Jean Prime. ...
Te Pāti Māori are demanding the New Zealand Government support an international independent investigation into mass graves that have been uncovered at two hospitals on the Gaza strip, following weeks of assault by Israeli troops. Among the 392 bodies that have been recovered, are children and elderly civilians. Many of ...
Our two-tiered system for veterans’ support is out of step with our closest partners, and all parties in Parliament should work together to fix it, Labour veterans’ affairs spokesperson Greg O’Connor said. ...
Stripping two Ministers of their portfolios just six months into the job shows Christopher Luxon’s management style is lacking, Labour Leader Chris Hipkins said. ...
Tonight’s court decision to overturn the summons of the Children’s Minister has enabled the Crown to continue making decisions about Māori without evidence, says Te Pāti Māori spokesperson for Children, Mariameno Kapa-Kingi. “The judicial system has this evening told the nation that this government can do whatever they want when ...
It appears Nicola Willis is about to pull the rug out from under the feet of local communities still dealing with the aftermath of last year’s severe weather, and local councils relying on funding to build back from these disasters. ...
The Government is making short-sighted changes to the Resource Management Act (RMA) that will take away environmental protection in favour of short-term profits, Labour’s environment spokesperson Rachel Brooking said today. ...
Labour welcomes the release of the report into the North Island weather events and looks forward to working with the Government to ensure that New Zealand is as prepared as it can be for the next natural disaster. ...
The Labour Party has called for the New Zealand Government to recognise Palestine, as a material step towards progressing the two-State solution needed to achieve a lasting peace in the region. ...
Some of our country’s most important work, stopping the sexual exploitation of children and violent extremism could go along with staff on the frontline at ports and airports. ...
The Government’s Fast Track Approvals Bill will give projects such as new coal mines a ‘get out of jail free’ card to wreak havoc on the environment, Labour Leader Chris Hipkins said today. ...
The government's decision to reintroduce Three Strikes is a destructive and ineffective piece of law-making that will only exacerbate an inherently biased and racist criminal justice system, said Te Pāti Māori Justice Spokesperson, Tākuta Ferris, today. During the time Three Strikes was in place in Aotearoa, Māori and Pasifika received ...
Cuts to frontline hospital staff are not only a broken election promise, it shows the reckless tax cuts have well and truly hit the frontline of the health system, says Labour Health spokesperson Ayesha Verrall. ...
The Green Party has joined the call for public submissions on the fast-track legislation to be extended after the Ombudsman forced the Government to release the list of organisations invited to apply just hours before submissions close. ...
New Zealand’s good work at reducing climate emissions for three years in a row will be undone by the National government’s lack of ambition and scrapping programmes that were making a difference, Labour Party climate spokesperson Megan Woods said today. ...
More essential jobs could be on the chopping block, this time Ministry of Education staff on the school lunches team are set to find out whether they're in line to lose their jobs. ...
Te Pāti Māori is disgusted at the confirmation that hundreds are set to lose their jobs at Oranga Tamariki, and the disestablishment of the Treaty Response Unit. “This act of absolute carelessness and out of touch decision making is committing tamariki to state abuse.” Said Te Pāti Māori Oranga Tamariki ...
The Government is trying to bring in a law that will allow Ministers to cut corners and kill off native species, Labour environment spokesperson Rachel Brooking said. ...
The Government has delivered on its election promise to provide a financially sustainable model for Auckland under its Local Water Done Well plan. The plan, which has been unanimously endorsed by Auckland Council’s Governing Body, will see Aucklanders avoid the previously projected 25.8 per cent water rates increases while retaining ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters discussed the need for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza, and enhanced cooperation in the Pacific with German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock during her first official visit to New Zealand today. "New Zealand and Germany enjoy shared interests and values, including the rule of law, democracy, respect for the international system ...
The Minister Responsible for RMA Reform, Chris Bishop today released his decision on four recommendations referred to him by the Western Bay of Plenty District Council, opening the door to housing growth in the area. The Council’s Plan Change 92 allows more homes to be built in existing and new ...
Thank you, John McKinnon and the New Zealand China Council for the invitation to speak to you today. Thank you too, all members of the China Council. Your effort has played an essential role in helping to build, shape, and grow a balanced and resilient relationship between our two ...
The Government is modernising insurance law to better protect Kiwis and provide security in the event of a disaster, Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Andrew Bayly announced today. “These reforms are long overdue. New Zealand’s insurance law is complicated and dated, some of which is more than 100 years old. ...
The coalition Government is refreshing its approach to supporting pay equity claims as time-limited funding for the Pay Equity Taskforce comes to an end, Public Service Minister Nicola Willis says. “Three years ago, the then-government introduced changes to the Equal Pay Act to support pay equity bargaining. The changes were ...
Structured literacy will change the way New Zealand children learn to read - improving achievement and setting students up for success, Education Minister Erica Stanford says. “Being able to read and write is a fundamental life skill that too many young people are missing out on. Recent data shows that ...
Trade Minister Todd McClay says Canada’s refusal to comply in full with a CPTPP trade dispute ruling in our favour over dairy trade is cynical and New Zealand has no intention of backing down. Mr McClay said he has asked for urgent legal advice in respect of our ‘next move’ ...
The rights of our children and young people will be enhanced by changes the coalition Government will make to strengthen oversight of the Oranga Tamariki system, including restoring a single Children’s Commissioner. “The Government is committed to delivering better public services that care for our most at-risk young people and ...
The Government is making it easier for minor changes to be made to a building consent so building a home is easier and more affordable, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “The coalition Government is focused on making it easier and cheaper to build homes so we can ...
New Zealand lost a true legend when internationally renowned disability advocate Sir Robert Martin (KNZM) passed away at his home in Whanganui last night, Disabilities Issues Minister Louise Upston says. “Our Government’s thoughts are with his wife Lynda, family and community, those he has worked with, the disability community in ...
Good evening – Before discussing the challenges and opportunities facing New Zealand’s foreign policy, we’d like to first acknowledge the New Zealand Institute of International Affairs. You have contributed to debates about New Zealand foreign policy over a long period of time, and we thank you for hosting us. ...
From today, passengers travelling internationally from Auckland Airport will be able to keep laptops and liquids in their carry-on bags for security screening thanks to new technology, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “Creating a more efficient and seamless travel experience is important for holidaymakers and businesses, enabling faster movement through ...
People with an interest in the health of Northland’s marine ecosystems are invited to a public meeting to discuss how to deal with kina barrens, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones will lead the discussion, which will take place on Friday, 10 May, at Awanui Hotel in ...
Kiwi exporters are $100 million better off today with the NZ EU FTA entering into force says Trade Minister Todd McClay. “This is all part of our plan to grow the economy. New Zealand's prosperity depends on international trade, making up 60 per cent of the country’s total economic activity. ...
There are heartening signs that the extractive sector is once again becoming an attractive prospect for investors and a source of economic prosperity for New Zealand, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. “The beginnings of a resurgence in extractive industries are apparent in media reports of the sector in the past ...
The return of the historic Ō-Rākau battle site to the descendants of those who fought there moved one step closer today with the first reading of Te Pire mō Ō-Rākau, Te Pae o Maumahara / The Ō-Rākau Remembrance Bill. The Bill will entrust the 9.7-hectare battle site, five kilometres west ...
Energy Minister Simeon Brown has announced 25 new high-speed EV charging hubs along key routes between major urban centres and outlined the Government’s plan to supercharge New Zealand’s EV infrastructure. The hubs will each have several chargers and be capable of charging at least four – and up to 10 ...
The coalition Government will not proceed with the previous Government’s plans to regulate residential property managers, Housing Minister Chris Bishop says. “I have written to the Chairperson of the Social Services and Community Committee to inform him that the Government does not intend to support the Residential Property Managers Bill ...
The Government has announced an independent review into the disability support system funded by the Ministry of Disabled People – Whaikaha. Disability Issues Minister Louise Upston says the review will look at what can be done to strengthen the long-term sustainability of Disability Support Services to provide disabled people and ...
Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith has attended the Universal Periodic Review in Geneva and outlined the Government’s plan to restore law and order. “Speaking to the United Nations Human Rights Council provided us with an opportunity to present New Zealand’s human rights progress, priorities, and challenges, while responding to issues and ...
The Government and Rotorua Lakes Council are committed to working closely together to end the use of contracted emergency housing motels in Rotorua. Associate Minister of Housing (Social Housing) Tama Potaka says the Government remains committed to ending the long-term use of contracted emergency housing motels in Rotorua by the ...
Trade Minister Todd McClay heads overseas today for high-level trade talks in the Gulf region, and a key OECD meeting in Paris. Mr McClay will travel to Riyadh to meet with counterparts from Saudi Arabia and the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC). “New Zealand’s goods and services exports to the Gulf region ...
Education Minister Erica Stanford has outlined six education priorities to deliver a world-leading education system that sets Kiwi kids up for future success. “I’m putting ambition, achievement and outcomes at the heart of our education system. I want every child to be inspired and engaged in their learning so they ...
The new NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) App is a secure ‘one stop shop’ to provide the services drivers need, Transport Minister Simeon Brown and Digitising Government Minister Judith Collins say. “The NZTA App will enable an easier way for Kiwis to pay for Vehicle Registration and Road User Charges (RUC). ...
Whānau with tamariki growing up in emergency housing motels will be prioritised for social housing starting this week, says Associate Housing Minister Tama Potaka. “Giving these whānau a better opportunity to build healthy stable lives for themselves and future generations is an essential part of the Government’s goal of reducing ...
Racing Minister Winston Peters has paid tribute to an icon of the industry with the recent passing of Dave O’Sullivan (OBE). “Our sympathies are with the O’Sullivan family with the sad news of Dave O’Sullivan’s recent passing,” Mr Peters says. “His contribution to racing, initially as a jockey and then ...
Assalaamu alaikum, greetings to you all. Eid Mubarak, everyone! I want to extend my warmest wishes to you and everyone celebrating this joyous occasion. It is a pleasure to be here. I have enjoyed Eid celebrations at Parliament before, but this is my first time joining you as the Minister ...
Associate Health Minister David Seymour has announced Pharmac’s largest ever budget of $6.294 billion over four years, fixing a $1.774 billion fiscal cliff. “Access to medicines is a crucial part of many Kiwis’ lives. We’ve committed to a budget allocation of $1.774 billion over four years so Kiwis are ...
Hon Paula Bennett has been appointed as member and chair of the Pharmac board, Associate Health Minister David Seymour announced today. "Pharmac is a critical part of New Zealand's health system and plays a significant role in ensuring that Kiwis have the best possible access to medicines,” says Mr Seymour. ...
Hundreds of New Zealand families affected by Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder (FASD) will benefit from a new Government focus on prevention and treatment, says Health Minister Dr Shane Reti. “We know FASD is a leading cause of preventable intellectual and neurodevelopmental disability in New Zealand,” Dr Reti says. “Every day, ...
Regional Development Minister Shane Jones today attended the official opening of Kaikohe’s new $14.7 million sports complex. “The completion of the Kaikohe Multi Sports Complex is a fantastic achievement for the Far North,” Mr Jones says. “This facility not only fulfils a long-held dream for local athletes, but also creates ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters’ engagements in Türkiye this week underlined the importance of diplomacy to meet growing global challenges. “Returning to the Gallipoli Peninsula to represent New Zealand at Anzac commemorations was a sombre reminder of the critical importance of diplomacy for de-escalating conflicts and easing tensions,” Mr Peters ...
Ambassador Millar, Burgemeester, Vandepitte, Excellencies, military representatives, distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen – good morning and welcome to this sacred Anzac Day dawn service. It is an honour to be here on behalf of the Government and people of New Zealand at Buttes New British Cemetery, Polygon Wood – a deeply ...
Distinguished guests - It is an honour to return once again to this site which, as the resting place for so many of our war-dead, has become a sacred place for generations of New Zealanders. Our presence here and at the other special spaces of Gallipoli is made ...
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Paul Goldsmith will take on responsibility for the Media and Communications portfolio, while Louise Upston will pick up the Disability Issues portfolio, Prime Minister Christopher Luxon announced today. “Our Government is relentlessly focused on getting New Zealand back on track. As issues change in prominence, I plan to adjust Ministerial ...
Recreational catch limits will be reduced in areas of Fiordland and the Chatham Islands to help keep those fisheries healthy and sustainable, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones says. The lower recreational daily catch limits for a range of finfish and shellfish species caught in the Fiordland Marine Area and ...
Energy Minister Simeon Brown has welcomed an important milestone in New Zealand’s hydrogen future, with the opening of the country’s first network of hydrogen refuelling stations in Wiri. “I want to congratulate the team at Hiringa Energy and its partners K one W one (K1W1), Mitsui & Co New Zealand ...
The coalition Government is delivering on its commitment to improve resource management laws and give greater certainty to consent applicants, with a Bill to amend the Resource Management Act (RMA) expected to be introduced to Parliament next month. RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop has today outlined the first RMA Amendment ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Luis Gómez Romero, Senior Lecturer in Human Rights, Constitutional Law and Legal Theory, University of Wollongong Fifty years ago, Australian feminist Anne Summers denounced “the ideology of sexism” governing over so many women’s lives. Unfortunately, sexism is as lethal today as it ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Jose Antonio Lara-Hernandez, Senior Researcher in Architecture, Auckland University of Technology Getty Images The COVID-19 pandemic and the hybrid work patterns it fostered have changed the way we think about office space, and central business districts in general. While fears ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Dale Boccabella, Associate Professor of Taxation Law, UNSW Sydney There’s a good reason your local volunteer-run netball club doesn’t pay tax. In Australia, various nonprofit organisations are exempt from paying income tax, including those that do charitable work, such as churches. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Marina Deller, Casual Academic, Creative Writing and English Literature, Flinders University NetflixComedy is opening up spaces for silences to be broken and trauma stories to be told. In 2018, Hannah Gadsby started a revolution with Nanette, asking audiences to rethink ...
The workplace can be a minefield of bad comms and passive aggression. Kinksters can help you navigate it. A friend and colleague recently gave me a compliment I loved. They told me I’d always been good at emotional communication and making people feel comfortable. “But I feel like it’s really ...
Even if some students are now just texting on their laptops. Stewart Sowman-Lund writes in this excerpt from The Bulletin, The Spinoff’s morning news round-up. To receive The Bulletin in full each weekday, sign up here. ...
Councils from Horowhenua, Kāpiti, Wairarapa, the Hutt Valley, Porirua and Wellington City will meet this Friday to work together on a plan for a Greater Wellington region water deal. ...
Renowned musician, advocate, and proud born and raised daughter of Tauranga, Ria Hall, is announcing her candidacy for Mayor of Tauranga and Pāpāmoa Ward for the upcoming election on July 20th. ...
The new Aotearoa histories curriculum is rich with potential. There’s still work to be done, but the education minister’s criticisms about ‘balance’ miss the mark, argues primary school teacher Jessie Moss. In 2015, Ōtorohanga College students presented to parliament a petition signed by more than 10,000 people calling for a ...
For too long our so-called national bird has maintained its stranglehold on the economy of regional New Zealand. Thanks to the fast track legislation, we will have our revenge. Theories abound on what ails New Zealand’s economy. National leader Chris Luxon has posited that we’re negative, wet, whiny, and inward-looking; ...
Comment: The debate over the future relationship between news and social media is bringing us closer to a long-overdue reckoning. Social media isn’t trying to kill journalism, because social media has never really cared about journalism. Social media is resolutely in the attention business. News propels some attention — perhaps ...
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For the past 12 years, Georgia-Rose Brown has balanced on the brink of making an Olympic Games – but always landed gracefully on the wrong side. Reaching the Olympics is a dream the gymnast has harboured since she was a six-year-old; a dream that would dwindle every four years, yet ...
Late one afternoon in March 1860 a man in a thin green velveteen jacket and a wide-awake hat arrived on foot at a sheep station named Glenmark, about 65 kilometres north of Christchurch. The man was in his mid-fifties but he looked older. Several people who met him that day ...
If building one of Auckland’s possible waterfront stadiums was funded privately, it would need to hold a sold-out Ed Sherran concert every weekday for 25 years. That’s Rob Hamlin’s finding – he’s a senior marketing lecturer at the University of Otago. “It’s not going to happen; forget about it,” he ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michelle Grattan, Professorial Fellow, University of Canberra A new Commonwealth Prac Payment will provide students with $319.50 a week when they are on clinical and professional placements. The payment will be means tested and start from July 1 next year, which ...
Asia Pacific Report About 500 people honoured Palestinian journalists in the heart of the New Zealand city of Auckland today for their brave coverage of Israel’s War on Gaza, now in its seventh month with almost 35,000 people killed, mostly women and children. Marking the annual May 3 World Press ...
The Government Communications Security Bureau denies hosting a foreign spying capability flagged by the watchdog, differentiating it from the system recently criticised. ...
RNZ News A group of academic staff at New Zealand’s largest university have expressed concern at the administration’s move to block a protest encampment that was planned to take place on campus calling for support for the rights of Palestinians. This week, the University of Auckland warned that while it ...
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Political conferences after a party returns to power are usually a chance for some healthy, even unhealthy backslapping. Yet National Party president Sylvia Wood’s address to its mainland representatives on Saturday hardly contained the unalloyed delight that one might have expected following National’s escape from the wilderness of opposition. Yes, ...
Comment: Almost half the world is voting in national elections this year and artificial intelligence is the elephant in the room. There are genuine fears AI-generated or AI-edited deepfakes will potentially manipulate election outcomes not just in the US and UK, but critically in countries such as India. For that ...
Ahead of the reality franchise’s return to New Zealand, allow us to introduce the eight brides and grooms. Chuck on a veil and tie back your man bun, because it’s time to say “I do” to a new season of Married at First Sight NZ. The reality TV “social experiment” ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Andrew Norton, Professor in the Practice of Higher Education Policy, Australian National University Every year on June 1, student debt in Australia is indexed to inflation. In 2023, high inflation pushed the indexation rate to 7.1%, the highest since 1990. This ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michelle Grattan, Professorial Fellow, University of Canberra Changes in the May 14 budget will cut the student debt of more than three million people, wiping more than $3 billion from what people owe. The government will cap the HELP indexation rate ...
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New Zealand Food Safety is monitoring overseas recalls of Indian packaged spice products manufactured by MDH and Everest due to concerns over a cancer-causing pesticide. ...
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We have freedom but we are not free. She called Princess Nokia.
The Rock for president 2020?
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/dwayne-the-rock-johnson-president-2020-campaign-election-committee-a7834956.html
jeez, i am not far from taking him as our prime minister.
Will the greens force another election should a labour – nzf government happen ?
http://buff.ly/2u78tss
Why do you ask, James?
You say you are 100%, ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE that National will win the election; you say so, ad nauseum,
so, knowing in your heart of hearts, as you say you do, that there won’t be a “labour – nzf government”, why do you ask?
’cause you’re a troll, that’s why.
A hypocritical troll (the worst kind)
🙂
You come across as unhinged in your constant stalking.
It’s boring.
Try discussing the substance of the article if you wish.
Robert fancies you, James.
He requests to be on top and wants to wear spurs.
james,are you spoken for?
If I wasnt – Id like to think I could do better than you.
You stalk all of us James, with brazen impertinence. Don’t whinge when you get nailed – you ask for it.
Nope Robert’s comment was perfectly appropriate. Like it or lump it this is MMP. Deals will have to happen. National will not be able to rule with its puppet parties.
So it is good that you post this comment but it displays a high degree of trolling …
Don’t be daft. That’s written by a conservative Labourite who would resist a strong Green govt any way he could. Including making shit up about the Greens as a way of stirring fear. This is the vanguard of old centrist Labour who would rather lose an election than have the Greens in power and/or pulling us left.
Think it through. If the National can’t form a govt, and afaik as the incumbent they get first crack at it, then it comes down to Labour. If NZF refuses a deal with L/G, why are the Greens to be blamed for that? If NZF has the bigger numbers, and chooses Labour over Nact, then it’s on them if they won’t accept the Greens. How come Trotter isn’t exploring that scenario? Because he has an agenda.
What the Greens said on the weekend, was that there will be no deal that doesn’t include the wellbeing of families and the environment. That’s perfectly reasonable given their values and reason for being in parliament. There is no guarantee pre-election of any party giving C and S. Are you really suggesting that parties should agree to such a thing before voting?
Just to correct you weka. What the green mp said was:
“The memorandum of understanding with Labour is the foundation for building the next government. However, if we were not part of the coalition, we would not accept a Labour-New Zealand First government and certainly not a National-New Zealand First government. Neither will be acceptable to the Greens. ”
So he is very clear they won’t accept a labour – greens government.
So what happens if Winston says he won’t go with labour should the greens be in the government? Could be part of his consequences from the other day.
not sure what you are meaning James. Why would Labour do a deal with NZF that excluded the Greens but expected them to provide C and S?
“So what happens if Winston says he won’t go with labour should the greens be in the government? Could be part of his consequences from the other day.”
I don’t think Peters would do that either. I can’t think of any NZ politician that would hold the country to ransom that way if it meant forcing a new election. But if Peters did do that, how is that the GP’s fault? (that’s what Trotter is implying).
Peters the other day was just his usual bluster.
I have to wonder too if Trotter is trying to make things dirtier than they already are.
If the nats stay in government because nz1 couldn’t work with the greens, that’s not the fault of the greens.
If the greens are need[ed] for a lab-involved government, they should be part of government just as much as nz1.
I don’t know why that is so hard for people to get their head around. Probably 2 decades of Peters playing stupid games with MMP, some people now think that’s the only way it can be done.
“wellbeing of families and the environment”, just about any party could say that. What matters is the actual policies.
For instance, are the Greens insisting on a reduction of dairy herd by 20%, or on a more positive note, the effective removal of GST on electric vehicles (presumably by way of a grant to purchasers)? In short do the Greens have actual bottom lines in terms of policy, or not.
Why are you asking me rather than the Green Party Wayne? I suggest you watch the launch videos. Turei was clear that there would be compromises in policy but not values in order to be part of a Labour led govt.
“wellbeing of families and the environment”, just about any party could say that. What matters is the actual policies.”
Agreed.
A neoliberal approach to the economy and a reliance on poisoning our waterways so that intensive dairying can occur are not consistent with this goal.
I’m not sure there’s any kind of “first crack at it”. Hopefully someone with actual NZ constitutional expertise will clarify. I was under the impression that after the election the previous government kept the necessary functions ticking over in a caretaker capacity until someone fronts up to the Governor General and says we’ve got the numbers to form a government. Then the GG does whatever it is needs to be done to get the ball rolling.
No idea what the constitutional situation would be nor how it would play out if Little had to say I can’t form a government coz Winnie and the Greens won’t play together, and English had to say I can’t form a government coz none of the other parties will play with me. Anyone know who gets to call for a new election and what the conditions are to make the call?
I honestly doubt it would come to that, but I expect much would depend on who did the framing and how, including what the MSM did. Blame is a big part of NZ culture currently. We’re seeing it already in Trotter’s pre-emptive piece.
The big advantage the Greens have this election is they’ve been able to say exactly where they stand on coalitions. Not to National and Act. Enthusiastic yes to Labour but the Greens still need max MPs for a truly progressive govt. Yes if we really have to to NZF. Everyone know where they stand.
NZF on the other hand is tied into its historical bollocks re not saying beforehand what it will do. I really hope that one bites them hard. But as always, it’s going to depend on whether Labour step up.
Re first crack, it would be good to clarify. I understood in the UK that the Conservatives got first crack but technically nothing would stop Corbyn from also putting forward a proposal to the Queen. So maybe it’s convention rather than law. But I have a feeling from past elections here that there is something similar.
Geez Louise ! – You think that’s an accurate description of Trots ????
Shouldn’t have thought so
I’d suggest he’s
Left-wing on the Economic spectrum
Liberal – but not Uber-Identitarian – on Moral-Social spectrum
.
Trots was responding to the words of Green MP Barry Coates in a recent post to The Daily Blog
yes, I followed the links. Coates didn’t say what Trotter thought. They were Trotter’s thoughts not Coates’.
“You think that’s an accurate description of Trots ????”
When we’re talking about a shifting spectrum I guess it’s relative. He doesn’t strike me as socially liberal in the context of the left. So conservative Labour makes sense to me. Maybe I’m talking about his behaviour more than his beliefs /shrug.
Wow, Trotter’s really got it in for the Green Party – his latest couple of posts (this one from the other day is just as irrationally anti-Green) suggest he really, really doesn’t like them. Still, given it’s Trots, his opposition might well reassure them they’re on the right path…
If the sixteenth century Protestant leader, Henry of Navarre (later to become the very Catholic Henry IV of France) was willing to concede that “Paris is worth a mass”, then Metiria Turei should be willing to concede that the Ninth Floor of the Beehive is worth biting her tongue over Winston’s shortcomings.
Quite lucid in my book PM.
But Coates’s words imply exactly what Trotter concludes. Has Coates misspoken and the other Greens not yet realised? Or because he is not a party leader they think it will not be noticed? This will probably blow over because few will be bothered to look into it deeply enough. But I think some sort of clarification might be needed if it becomes widely publicised. (It probably won’t.)
No they don’t imply Trotter’s conclusion at all.
Let’s take it simply:
There are a number of likely governing options after the election:
Nact
N/NZ1
Lab/grn
lab/nz1/grn
lab/nz1.
According to Coates and other comments the greens will not support nact, nat/nz1, or lab/nz1.
Their response to the immigration policy means that they will be looking for NZ1 to compromise on that more than they compromise on it, if a lab/grn/nz1 govt will happen.
If lab/nz1 need the support of the greens to govern, the greens will be at the cabinet table.
The question arises as to whether nat need only nz1 to govern, and in that case will nz1 play nat and lab/grn against each other? Of course they will. Whether this means they’ll prioritise their immigration policy over baubles for peters and shane jones? That’s anyone’s guess.
“But Coates’s words imply exactly what Trotter concludes”
No, Trotter is making that up (I say making it up, unlike others, because he’s a very experienced political commentator who is quite capable of understand what the GP are doing).
If you listen to what the Greens have been saying in the past week, they’re laying out boundaries. If you want them in govt, there are limits. They’re not going to prop up a govt they fundamentally disagree with. Before it was National. Now it’s National or NZF/L. That doesn’t mean a government *can’t be formed. Why would you assume that?
If Nat or Nat/NZF or NZF/L can form without the Greens, that’s on them. But don’t expect the Greens to offer C and S to a govt that isn’t progressive. Lefties who want to vote NZF now will be under no illusions as to what that means. Peters/NZF also have choices here. NZF aren’t being ruled out of a L/G coalition.
This shit just got real.
OK, possibly true as you and McFlock put it, but it is asking a lot for all the public to get it. Luckily, few people are probably thinking about it at this stage.
Yes, this is why I am so unimpressed with Trotter. Zero commitment to telling the truth there. And he is widely read, I just hope this doesn’t go out in his newspaper column 🙁
Nup.
Anyone else seen this – just came up on a feed I follow. Another shady Key deal. Even gone this man keeps on giving. By definition is this not liberalism supporting liberalism.
If this is true our media has to admit – epic fail.
http://accmag.com/13-7m-nz-taxpayer-funds-pledged-to-shady-clinton-charity/
From the article:
“It has been revealed that millions of New Zealand taxpayer dollars have been donated by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade (MFAT) to Hillary Clinton’s charity, the Clinton Health Access Initiative (CHAI), a non-profit organisation created from the Clinton Foundation with the stated goal to reduce HIV/AIDs in Africa.
An MFAT spokesman confirmed to the NBR that between January 2010 and June 2016, $7.7 million of taxpayer funds had already been donated and another $6 million was to follow, keeping to a pledge to donate $13.7 million made by the government organisation in 2013.”
So the donations were to a charity that is not the Clinton Foundation that is trying to reduce HIV/AIDs in Africa. Charitable projects can be bedeviled by fragmented donors all wanting different publicity – as I understand it the Clinton initiative is the only effective way of getting into some countries – they are large enough that is is best to work with them that try and run alongside. Whether it is better than some of the National aid programme initiatives – effectively we will donate money for you to buy these goods from us that may not otherwise be a top priority for you” is another issue entirely, but there is no evidence that speaking fees are even linked to the Clinton Foundation (apparently one of the “cleanest” charities in America) – and this is a separate charitable fund.
I don’t know anything about Accmag, but as far as I am concerned the case is not proven.
The important thing to note is the Trotsker used many important sounding words and is clearly more cleverer than the oiks who are ignorant of Greek history.
And the founders of WEA all just did a collective roll in their graves. Richter 4.1 I’d guess.
How many here know what 420 means in relation to cannabis?
Wiki is your friend 🙂
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/420_(cannabis_culture)
I wasn’t asking for an explanation, I was wanting to find out how many people here were familiar with the term 🙂
Excuse to be smelly.
Rumours abound as to it’s origin in California (either because stoners would meet after school – 4:20pm- or because it was [allegedly] a police number code for disorderly group of youths).
In Dunedin it was(is?) an event to smoke up in a crowd as a “protest”. Generally ignored until they started being dicks about it and claiming that the police weren’t doing their job (as well as kids turning up in school uniform), at which point the cops arrested a couple of hippies who then complained that the cops were doing their job.
Dunno whether they still do it. Complete freak show. I know a few normal people who smoke mj – done it myself on occasion – it’s a pity the most visible legalisation activists are dickheads or a freak show.
Was that in the Octagon? It completely passed me by that it happened at 4.20pm.
university union lawn about ten years ago. The arrests got some funny press coverage.
ah. I thought Norml used to do smoke ins in the Octagon too.
probably.
I knew about it
from where?
can’t remember – I do accumulate trivial facts and information like a ball of velcro though.
may be part of the ‘blaze’ culture which isn’t so big down here – more of a city thing I think.
ta, that makes sense
An Americanism that arrived perhaps ten years ago…and never heard before, I reckon.
Nice not
“And then Winston gets all high and mighty when called on his racism? Please. Nazis know a racist when they see one, and that’s why they support Winston. But the result is that no-one else should.
(Not that this is any great surprise: the National Front – actual, open Nazis – publicly endorsed Winston in 2005, and in 2011, and in 2014 reminded him that “We have had NF supporters working hard for NZ first from its beginning”. So alt-right support for NZFirst is absolutely consistent with the positions of both groups).”
http://norightturn.blogspot.co.nz/2017/07/winston-supported-by-nazis.html
wow. He’s been playing both sides of that for a long time. Ugly.
Mr Trotter would appear to have company (of a sort)….
“Trust the Greens to be the only ones to ripple the pond. With good reason, they’ve concluded the return of Jones has put a sizeable crimp into the Greens’ plans to enter into formal coalition with Labour. With nothing much to lose – and with the related need to fire up its own base – Greens co-leader Metiria Turei has chosen to take New Zealand First head on. To all intents, we’re watching a re-run of 2005, when Helen Clark chose Peters ahead of the Greens. Back then, Labour decided to form a coalition partner of the centre, instead of heading leftwards. Anyone voting Labour this year needs to be aware of the potential for history to repeat itself.”
http://gordoncampbell.scoop.co.nz/2017/07/11/gordon-campbell-on-winston-peters-sitting-pretty/
Yep.
Larsen C calves
https://twitter.com/midasonice?lang=en
Yeah. But it’s alright. It’s sexy. According to the “Guardian” there’s no proof it has anything to do with global warming and they’ve got real pumping Hollywood type music on their vid.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/12/giant-antarctic-iceberg-breaks-free-of-larsen-c-ice-shelf
edit. Yes. I’m being sarcastic in case anyone misses it.
Lol, I didn’t bother with the vid.
Icebergs, the new trainspotting.
I was reading the BBC version and they were seriously downplaying any possibility that it had anything to do with climate change.
Today in four frames…