Daily review 15/11/2021

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  1. observer 1
    15 November 2021 at 6:18 pm

    One News Poll: the next leader of the National Party (Simon Bridges) is as popular as the Leagalise Cannabis party, both on 1%.

    Meanwhile the news runs the protest footage and ignores the fact that the protest parties and leaders register nothing in the poll. If they were the voices of the people surely Advance NZ or Brian Tamaki could muster a measly 1%? But no – they are less popular than Chloe Swarbrick.

    • Gezza 1.1
      15 November 2021 at 7:28 pm

      CB latest from tvnz site:

      “Jacinda Ardern and her party have taken a hit in the latest 1News Colmar Brunton Poll, revealing a drop in Labour’s support to 41% and Ardern as preferred Prime Minister to 39%.

      National is still behind on 28%, rising two points since September’s poll, the party’s leader Judith Collins has plunged to a new low in her approval rating, of -31.

      Party support:

      Labour Party: 41% (down 2%-points)

      National Party: 28% (up 2%)

      ACT: 14% (steady)

      Green Party: 9% (up 1%)

      New Zealand First: 3% (steady)

      Te Paati Māori: 1% (down 1%)

      New Conservative: 1% (steady)

      TOP: 1% (steady)

      Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party: 1% (up 1%)

      Don’t know: 7%

      Refused: 2%

      *Percentages do not add to 100 due to rounding.”

      https://www.1news.co.nz/2021/11/15/ardern-labour-dip-in-support-collins-plunges-to-lowest-approval-rating-1news-colmar-brunton-poll/

      • observer 1.1.1
        15 November 2021 at 7:43 pm

        Money quote, Collins on Bridges:

        "He's not the leader and he won't be". Brutal!

        After the coup, Collins will have to leave Parliament. Staying and undermining Bridges will finish off National's chances for another term.

        • bwaghorn 1.1.1.1
          15 November 2021 at 8:53 pm

          Surely they wont go back to bridges!!guys a dick

          • Gezza 1.1.1.1.1
            15 November 2021 at 9:08 pm

            Agree. Would be seen as a retrograde step by swing voters.
            Bridges had his shot. He didn’t have the charisma, the timing, or the smarts.
            He’s not now going to be able to persuade folk he suddenly has since acquired all 3.
            A Senior Cabinet Minister, yes, maybe even a Deputy (might be a smart move, politically) but not a PM.

            But at these numbers, the debate’s moot. National doesn’t look like it’s git the numbers yet to have a serious run at the Govt Benches. Give it more time & a new leader …

            • bwaghorn 1.1.1.1.1.1
              15 November 2021 at 9:25 pm

              Theres s good chance labour will lose next time , humans a queer fuckers, were fighting the biggest threat in all of our lifetimes, yet they resent the medicine.

              Not helped by the weak minded and and the fools that play politics.

              • Patricia Bremner …
                16 November 2021 at 8:51 am

                bwaghorn devil Bloomfield seems to be playing God, a bit like that Dr. in Murupara. Too sure they are right rather than looking at the results

  2. UncookedSelachimorpha 2
    15 November 2021 at 6:27 pm

    Colmar Brunton Poll:

    Support for the Labour Party is down 2 percent to 41 percent , the latest 1News Colmar Brunton political poll shows.

    Meanwhile, National is up 2 percent to 28 percent and ACT is steady on 14 percent.

    The Green Party is up 1 percent to 9 percent while New Zealand First sits on 3 percent.

    The Māori Party has dropped 1 percent to 1 percent.

  3. Alan 3
    15 November 2021 at 6:47 pm

    Seems that the trend has set in

    • observer 3.1
      15 November 2021 at 6:57 pm

      What trend?

      If you mean the public have decided that they don't want Collins or Bridges, then that trend is indeed set in concrete. Ardern is practically hugging herself with glee.

        • Puckish Rogue 3.1.1.1
          15 November 2021 at 7:59 pm

          65 seats to 54, the trend is inevitable…Judith is coming

          • Gezza 3.1.1.1.1
            15 November 2021 at 9:16 pm

            She may well be, on tv she sometimes seem like shecis – but she’s not convincing me that it’s a genuine climax. I think she’s just faking it in hopes she makes it.

          • Bearded Git 3.1.1.1.2
            16 November 2021 at 10:47 am

            I make it Lab/gr/mp 66 Nat/act 54……that looks like a sold majority.

            • Puckish Rogue 3.1.1.1.2.1
              16 November 2021 at 10:52 am

              The MP has also been with National so I'm counting their vote as a floater (more than likely to go with Labour)

              It is healthy, not as healthy as it was and the trend is Labour slipping and National/Act rising

      • Alan 3.1.2
        15 November 2021 at 7:08 pm

        The trend where 1 in 5 people who voted for labour in the last election no longer have that intention

        • observer 3.1.2.1
          15 November 2021 at 7:18 pm

          And nobody should be at all surprised. If everything was going well, there would still be a drop from an artificial high. Everything is not going well, so that drops a few more points.

          Ever since election night 2020 anyone with any sense has known that a 3rd term = Labour + Greens. Until National transform themselves to win swing voters, that is the likely outcome.

          • Alan 3.1.2.1.1
            15 November 2021 at 7:53 pm

            On the current trajectory, labour and the greens will not be forming the next government

            • observer 3.1.2.1.1.1
              15 November 2021 at 8:03 pm

              "current trajectory" … heh. And the trajectory 2 years before the previous election? It's an entirely meaningless statement.

              If the 2023 election is about lockdowns and MIQ and mandates and Covid, the government will lose. But don't get your hopes up.

              If in 2018 you predicted the pandemic and all its consequences in 2020, well done. Could've given us all a heads-up, mind.

      • alwyn 3.1.3
        15 November 2021 at 8:52 pm

        The trend is that Labour have dropped, in a 12 month period, from 53% support to 41%. National went from 25 to 28, Greens from 8 to 9 and ACT from 8 to 14.

        Extrapolating out for the 24 or so months to the next election would give us Labour 17%, National 34%, Greens on 11% and ACT on 20%. Poor Jacinda, I wonder when she will jump, or will she be pushed by all the backbenchers who can see they will actually have to go out and try and find a job in the real world?

        Will it happen? I doubt it. I really doubt that Labour will hold up as well as my extrapolation predicts. When National changes from Collins to Luxon their support will rocket up as well.

  4. observer 4
    15 November 2021 at 7:29 pm

    The leaders of the alternative government are getting along just fine:

    Collins on Seymour: "flip flop"

    Both parties have been all over the place on vaccine mandates, changing faster than the weather.

    • Bearded Git 4.1
      16 November 2021 at 10:50 am

      Seymour is confused. His true pro-business and bollocks to the rest position is gradually becoming clear. The electorate will spot this in 2 years time.

  5. Gezza 5
    15 November 2021 at 7:36 pm

    I’m on official doctor’s orders to ignore being on a statin because “The weight you’re down to you don’t have a cholesterol problem.”

    “Your first priority is to out the weight back on, fast. Eat fats, lots of fats. Butter. Olive oil. Cheese. Ice Cream. Pork. Bacon. Chicken with skin on. Pies. Pastries. Cream….”

    “And if you have a sweet tooth, Gez, now is the time to indulge it!”

    Life is hell. 😀

    • Patricia Bremner 5.1
      15 November 2021 at 7:46 pm

      Gezza, Pasta, Carbs of any kind and icecream Freedom lol

    • Puckish Rogue 5.2
      15 November 2021 at 7:57 pm

      Pork Belly and pasta is what does it for me, every time and don't fill up on water as it'll only take up valuable eating space smiley

      • Gezza 5.2.1
        15 November 2021 at 8:13 pm

        The local New World frequently does pork belly & puts it in the hot food self-serve cooked chickens, chicken halves & chicken quarters. They also do pork roasts.

        I’ll need to keep up the red meat munching for the haem iron intake, but I am SO going to be pigging out on porridge & cream, & on pork – it’s me favourite meat. 😋

    • Tony 5.3
      15 November 2021 at 8:08 pm

      Coconut in it's various forms is the safest fastest way to gain weight ..

      • Gezza 5.3.1
        15 November 2021 at 8:15 pm

        Got a can of coconut cream in me pantry, sitting unused for about four months.
        What do you recommend?

        • JanM 5.3.1.1
          15 November 2021 at 8:26 pm

          Look up the recipe for suafa'i – Samoan tapioca, banana and coconut porridge – yum!

        • gsays 5.3.1.2
          15 November 2021 at 8:41 pm

          Use it where you would use cream.

          A cider mushroom cream sauce. In the pan, you have fried your fatty pork chop in, throw sliced mushrooms and sizzle a bit.

          1/3 c cider (old world, not sweet stuff) reduce (boil away liquid)

          Add coconut cream 1/2 tin and boil for a couple of mins.

          Add the chop and any juices it has let go.

          Taste and season with chef''s cocaine.

          Voila!

    • Treetop 5.4
      15 November 2021 at 8:23 pm

      I had this last week Puhoi half milk and half cream. Great on cereal and in coffee.

    • alwyn 5.5
      15 November 2021 at 8:30 pm

      At that point he woke up.

  6. Gezza 6
    15 November 2021 at 8:23 pm

    “By Geoffrey Miller*

    “Analysis – Nanaia Mahuta’s first foreign trip is finally under way. New Zealand’s Foreign Minister began a seven-country tour of Australia, Singapore, Indonesia, the UAE, Qatar, the US and Canada on Thursday.”

    Interesting look at Mahuta’s upcoming first Foreign Affairs overseas trip.

    **Geoffrey Miller is the Democracy Project’s international analyst and writes on current New Zealand foreign policy and related geopolitical issues. He has lived in Germany and the Middle East and is a fluent speaker of German and Arabic.*

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/on-the-inside/455748/decoding-nanaia-mahuta-s-first-foreign-trip

  7. Pete 7
    15 November 2021 at 8:40 pm

    Teachers not getting a vaccination.

    It's easy for me, I'm not in the situation of having to make decisions.

    A West Otago Principal: “I think we are resigned to the fact people’s careers are being ruined by this. It’s not good for anyone,” he said.

    Apparently people who die of covid have their careers ruined too. That is not good for anyone. I've read so many accounts of people who strongly advocated against being vaccinated who became extremely ill and lamented their choice. And others who vociferously supported non-vaccination who died.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/126987703/unvaccinated-teacher-my-15year-career-is-basically-down-the-drain

  8. Pete 8
    15 November 2021 at 9:27 pm

    Todd McClay. Dick. How many extra intensive care beds have been established at Rotorua Hospital in his time?

    "A disaster waiting to happen."

    That's how Rotorua MP Todd McClay describes Lakes DHB's ability to cope with a Delta outbreak after it was revealed there are only four fully staffed intensive care beds in Rotorua."

    Todd McClay has been the MP for Rotorua since the end of 2008. He was in Government from then until October 2017. He had a stint in Cabinet for three years.

    If he wants to play politics with Covid let's do it. There were big development at Rotorua Hospital in the 2009-2012 period. McClay's doing or from the Clark Government?

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-delta-outbreak-rotorua-taupo-a-disaster-waiting-to-happen-with-four-icu-beds-for-population-of-116000/TDRBPCBXOIJUTAYB5K3GV6GR6A/

    https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/rotorua-hospital-upgrade-gets-government-nod

    • Sabine 8.1
      15 November 2021 at 9:50 pm

      You will find that ICU beds are in short supply everywhere.

      • Graeme 8.1.1
        15 November 2021 at 10:20 pm

        Yep, if someone from here needs one in the outbreak they'll be at least 350km from home and loved ones, that's if there's a bed in Dunedin. Otherwise it's Christchurch 500km away.

        • Pete 8.1.1.1
          16 November 2021 at 9:25 am

          I appreciate your point.

          My point is that a pandemic comes along and politicians who were in positions to do something about providing best case/worst case scenarios with resources get all excited about other politicians not doing what they could have done, should have done.

          You know, the perspicacity, the courage, the standing up for what you belief, the head on the block attitude they expect of others they didn't have themselves.

          Whangarei Hospital has been in the news for the poor state of it's infrastructure. They have their first Labour MP since 1975. National MPs now getting all excited about a run down facility? Yeah nah.

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