Daily review 19/11/2019

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1. ianmac 1

   19 November 2019 at 6:49 pm

   If NZF is within the rules and is cleared by the Electoral Commission it won't matter because the damage will have been done.

   If the other matter is cleared by the Auditor it won't matter because the damage will have been done.

   If both of those cases are cleared it won't stop the sleazy attacks. (And I don't vote for NZF.) Mr Jones will have to duck too.

   Within the rules do we know from whom the big donations are for National?
   • weka 1.1

     19 November 2019 at 7:35 pm

     there are three issues:

     1. have NZF broken the law?

     2. are their practices ethical and acceptable for NZ politics, especially with regards to transparency and honesty? ('National do it too' isn't a good argument here)

     3. why did they not just come out, and be upfront? Instead we got arrogance and belligerence.

     The MSM are who they are, and their reporting will always be an additional issue, but I'm seeing some solid stuff today from RNZ, the Spinoff and Stuff. Basically I'm over the bullshit from NZF and it's a mystery to me why people still trust Peters. If NZF get burnt from this they probably need to look at how they do politics and manage their party.

     One thing to remember here is that what is being reported is entirely consistent with the people running NZF, including Peters. What we need now is NZF to take responsibility for the issues being presented, and be honest and transparent. I'm betting instead we will get more belligerence, obfuscation, and Peters trying to blame the MSM, and them basically doing everything they can to maintain power at the expense of truth.
     • Pat 1.1.1

       19 November 2019 at 7:42 pm

       "Basically I'm over the bullshit from NZF and it's a mystery to me why people still trust Peters."

       His constituency are those who vote and dislike politicians….think Trump….and he plays them like a Stradavarius
     • Blazer 1.1.2

       20 November 2019 at 7:50 am

       Reality says there is really only one issue-have NZF broken the law?.

       As far as the Natz did it too,-you only need to see the apathy around their black ops and lack of ethics,and moral virtue over the last decade, to accept it must be irrelevant to most…voters.
       • weka 1.1.2.1

         20 November 2019 at 10:43 am

         "Reality says there is really only one issue-have NZF broken the law?."

         What does that even mean?

         If you don't care about ethics in this situation, that's fine, you'll have some good company with NZF and Peters (assuming they survive this). Plenty of others do care about ethics.
         • Blazer 1.1.2.1.1

           20 November 2019 at 10:59 am

           that means ,there do not seem to be significant repurcussions at the ballot box,otherwise National would not have won 3 straight elections.
           • weka 1.1.2.1.1.1

             20 November 2019 at 11:19 am

             last time this happened NZF were out of parliament (2008 election) despite there being no illegality.
             • Blazer …

               20 November 2019 at 12:53 pm

               Pretty faulty logic.

               Hagers book revealed an extent National went to in Dirty Politics and they won successive elections….therefore…
       • Sacha 1.1.2.2

         20 November 2019 at 10:48 am

         you only need to see the apathy around their black ops and lack of ethics,and moral virtue over the last decade, to accept it must be irrelevant to most…voters

         Sounds an awful lot like the discussion about whether to impeach Chump – pragmatism vs principle.
2. joe90 2

   19 November 2019 at 6:57 pm

   Beware…the sharp-teethed packs of Jezebel..

   THE Brexit Party candidate for Glenrothes has seemingly declared war on the LGBTQ community, young people and secularists in a string of uncovered Facebook posts.

   SNP MSP Jenny Gilruth shared screenshots she claims are from the account of Brexit Party candidate Victor Robert Farrell, which include plans to turn the "creatures" of the "Christ-rejecting swamp" into shoes and handbags.

   This is not currently known to be Brexit Party policy.

   https://www.thenational.scot/news/18043266.scottish-brexit-party-candidate-declares-war-lgbtq-community/
3. A 3

   19 November 2019 at 8:13 pm

   Things you might not know…today I learnt that it's possible to take down a drone with laser pointers.

   Laser lights at demonstrations didn’t first appear in Chile. The pointers have had a ubiquitous presence at the raucous demonstrations in Hong Kong, where protesters have also used the lasers to disable surveillance cameras equipped with facial recognition technology.

   And as Defense Maven reports, U.S. Army Stryker vehicles are also being equipped with laser weapons that would be used to disable and knock out incoming flying drones.

   However, the consumer-grade lasers at Chile’s protests are hardly the type that can chew through armor or burn through flesh, like military laser cannons might. Instead, these lasers likely either blinded the camera feed of the human operator or disabled the drone’s altitude sensors, triggering the drone’s emergency autonomous landing capabilities.
4. A 4

   19 November 2019 at 8:22 pm

   One thing I'd really like changed is the way dentistry is funded. Needs to happen.

   https://youtu.be/gTJuEoAk_JY
   • A 4.1

     19 November 2019 at 8:37 pm

     And for anyone who is in a similar predicament MSD have the ability to waive the debt – but you need to ask and persist through their system. If everyone did this then the system would find it cheaper to raise that grant level.
5. joe90 5

   19 November 2019 at 8:41 pm

   'Wingnut fight!

   A conservative group cut ties with right-wing columnist Michelle Malkin on Sunday over her support for an anti-Semitic internet personality, ramping up a growing conservative civil war centered on college campuses.

   Malkin’s firing from Young America’s Foundation, whose speaker’s bureau had booked Malkin for speeches across the country for the past 17 years, marks the latest battle between supporters of Holocaust denier Nick Fuentes and more establishment conservative figures.

   “Michelle Malkin in no longer part of YAF’s campus lecture program,” a YAF spokesman said in an email to The Daily Beast.

   Malkin didn’t respond to a request for comment.

   https://www.thedailybeast.com/conservative-group-yaf-fires-michelle-malkin-over-support-for-holocaust-denier
6. Siobhan 6

   20 November 2019 at 10:09 am

   Well, knock me over with a feather and color me startled…Rape charges against Assange have been dropped…

   'My assessment is that all investigative measures that can be taken have been taken. But… the evidence is not strong enough to file an indictment.'

   https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7701869/Sweden-drops-investigation-alleged-rape-Julian-Assange.html

   Excuse the Daily Mail source..but quite frankly anyone who ever thought the was about a rape charge might as well use the DM as their primary source of information.

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