Daily review 25/06/2020

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1. ScottGN 1

   25 June 2020 at 5:57 pm

   Interesting that Muller is “campaigning” in Tukituki today. With a majority of about 2.5k it’s a seat that could change hands if National’s vote is on the slide.
   • Gosman 1.1

     25 June 2020 at 6:12 pm

     Polls showing good recovery for National. ACT is also on the rise. It has over taken NZ First as the fourth biggest party. We've only just started the election campaign as well.
2. Gosman 2

   25 June 2020 at 6:13 pm

   For all those here who called the premature death of the ACT party you might want to start looking for something to wipe egg off of faces…
   • observer 2.1

     25 June 2020 at 6:23 pm

     I don't know who predicted that but it would be silly. Bridges and Muller have given Seymour the chance to pick up Nat voters, it's no surprise that he has.

     More surprising that NZF haven't picked some up, since Winston has been posing as internal opposition.
   • Infused 2.2

     25 June 2020 at 6:26 pm

     going to get close to 5% I think
     • SPC 2.2.1

       25 June 2020 at 6:39 pm

       When it gets to 5% rimmer gets to be head of a real party, presuming the caucus does not choose his replacement.
       • observer 2.2.1.1

         25 June 2020 at 7:01 pm

         I expect most people have forgotten the last time ACT had a caucus. They were the best soap opera in town.

         Roy challenged Hide, Franks annoyed everyone, Garrett had the most insane resignation story ever, whatsername from Dunedn came in, and then there was Brash and Banks and … people died of popcorn overdose.
         • anker 2.2.1.1.1

           25 June 2020 at 8:46 pm

           Observer …..ha ha ha re the accurate description of the ACT party….. I have really enjoyed the range of comments you have made of late
         • Patricia Bremner 2.2.1.1.2

           25 June 2020 at 10:12 pm

           You forgot Rodney dropping his dance partner and Brash walking the plank. First class comedy.
   • Red Blooded One 2.3

     25 June 2020 at 6:29 pm

     I haven't read many, if any, suggestions of ACT's demise recently, you might be mistaken by all the Right-Wing attacks that NZ1 will die (may or may not happen) so I feel you are making stuff up, are you proud to be a disseminator of Alternative Facts. Such a pathetic attack on commentators here.
     • observer 2.3.1

       25 June 2020 at 6:33 pm

       Commentators say lots of different things. It's not a borg.
   • anker 2.4

     25 June 2020 at 8:46 pm

     Observer …..ha ha ha re the accurate description of the ACT party….. I have really enjoyed the range of comments you have made of late
   • Anker 2.5

     25 June 2020 at 10:28 pm

     Gosman an thinks a party scoring. 3% is a success…….ha ha ha ha
3. greywarshark 3

   25 June 2020 at 6:30 pm

   This headline on stuff is harsh. Should we be asking for a more rational, kinder approach while we are feeling raw from events?

   Jun.25/20 8.24 https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300041875/david-clark-throws-ashley-bloomfield-under-the-bus-while-bloomfield-looks-on
   • Jum 3.1

     25 June 2020 at 10:02 pm

     https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300041875/david-clark-throws-ashley-bloomfield-under-the-bus-while-bloomfield-looks-on

     Look carefully at the photo; Bloomfield is watching the media, unable to believe the garbage he's hearing and also realising how Labour politicians must feel when they are being attacked in partnership by National and the media. He'll be grateful to be a civil servant and not the Minister of Health.

     I like SPC's comment on stuff and his one at 5.2 below:
     XXXXXXX
     SPC

     "We went from no testing before release to a new regime requiring testing before release from June 9.

     So local officials determined that to mean it applied only to those who arrived from June 9, not to those who arrived earlier but who were still in managed isolation. So for a week or so people were still leaving without a test. Some scandal.

     The risk of community spread from that 1000 who did complete their 2 weeks, is no greater than the many thousands who have gone in and out of the 2 week quarantine in past months. And we went weeks then and still are without any community transmission.

     How Muller can go from there is no spread go to level 1 now now now, to believing there is commmunity spread – given the same situation for one extra week … well it reminds me of the commentators on the Muppets. "
     XXXXXXX

     Any COVID found in the North Island I will blame on Michael Woodhouse and Todd Muller for the deliberate hiding of 2 women's real travel information to attack the Health Minister with in Q Time.
4. observer 4

   25 June 2020 at 6:31 pm

   I was wrong about NZF but the rest was not hard to predict:

   https://thestandard.org.nz/daily-review-24-06-2020/#comment-1722385

   The Greens have impressively loyal support. Very few headlines lately, but the core remains. A Labour-Green majority is the most likely outcome, as it has been for much of this term (with Northland the wild card).

   Muller will be pleased, he's done the job he was put there for. The hard part is yet to come.
   • weka 4.1

     25 June 2020 at 9:30 pm

     I hope you are right, but Peters is a master at election spikes.
5. Anne 5

   25 June 2020 at 6:37 pm

   As was predicted by TS commenters, the media are over-egging the gains made by National in the latest poll:

   https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/300042555/national-makes-enormous-recovery-in-new-poll

   "Massive" is the word some are using.

   It should be remembered that relative to Reid Research and UMR , CB polls have historically favoured the Right. That is, National and ACT.
   • I Feel Love 5.1

     25 June 2020 at 6:43 pm

     Tomorrows headlines "Labour plummets!".
     • Incognito 5.1.1

       25 June 2020 at 10:48 pm

       “Muller snatches victory from the jaws of defeat to unlosable position for winning Opposition!”.
   • SPC 5.2

     25 June 2020 at 6:44 pm

     Clark insisted the fault lay with director-general of health Ashley 'Bloomfield.

     And Coughlan goes with the narrative being parroted by the Herald and Newshub. Not an original amongst them.

     The plain fact is, Bloomfield had already accepted responsibility, all by himself as head of the operational side of the partnership.

     MSM, trying to pose as a cut above social media, when they often play herd spin to manipulate the public.
     • Gabby 5.2.1

       25 June 2020 at 6:48 pm

       RNZ seem pretty keen to push the blame theme, not sure what's in it for them.
       • In Vino 5.2.1.1

         25 June 2020 at 10:42 pm

         True, this afternoon RNZ used an ex-National employee (they did say so..) some Ben Jones guy, I think. But Jesse M then introduced him as somebody who should have a good grasp on the topic, and let him utter an entire National Party Propaganda piece on how horrible Clark had been to Bloomfield.

         No attempt at balance – thanked him at the end, and moved on to another topic.

         If I am not called in to work tomorrow, I think I will send him a complaint. It is utterly unbalanced presentation.
         • SPC 5.2.1.1.1

           26 June 2020 at 6:49 am

           Ben Thomas Jones is a former National Partyy press officer
     • Anne 5.2.2

       25 June 2020 at 6:48 pm

       There's a post up now. Can you repeat the above? Too good to just left here. 🙂
6. greywarshark 6

   25 June 2020 at 6:39 pm

   Jun.25/20
   Bayer bought out Monsanto or took it over. They are now paying out $10+ billion compensation. They must be expecting to make squids from somewhere. Where, what, why, how, when? Curious minds would like to know.

   https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/419847/bayer-to-pay-10-point-9-billion-to-settle-weedkiller-cases
7. ScottGN 7

   25 June 2020 at 6:41 pm

   ACT on 4% is good news for most of us in here I would have thought. The votes behind their rise in the polls are coming from National anyway so no gain for the centre-right. Plus it puts an end to the free seat National has benefited from since Seymour won Epsom. And you’d have to think having ACT resurgent on their right flank would embolden the right wing lunatics in National which means more space for Ardern and Labour in the centre.
   • SPC 7.1

     25 June 2020 at 6:51 pm

     Not really, ACT has generally got enough party list votes for 1 seat.

     It's real purpose to National is as a repository of right wing policies they keep at arms length – but get to chose which ones to adopt as part of a coalition deal. Charter schools etc/term limit welfare was rumoured to be the one after 2017. Maybe it will be the all in one faith based provider with term limt welfare that the US has – red cap and all).
   • gsays 7.2

     26 June 2020 at 6:13 am

     “And you’d have to think having ACT resurgent on their right flank would embolden the right wing lunatics in National which means more space for Ardern and Labour in the centre.”

     With the referenda coming up some socially conservative Labour voters may move too.

     We are gonna hear a bit about euthanasia and pot during this campaign.
8. joe90 8

   25 June 2020 at 6:46 pm

   Cant qwite put my finger on why some folk are against de-funding police.

   //

   https://twitter.com/EricKleefeld/status/1275795677939982337

   WILMINGTON — “We are just gonna go out and start slaughtering them fu—– ni—–. I can’t wait. God, I can’t wait.

   These are the words of a now-former Wilmington Police Department officer Kevin Piner.

   […]

   ‘A civil war is coming’

   The second of the two conversations that day happened after Piner received a phone call from Moore.

   According to the summary, “Moore began telling Piner about an arrest he had made at work the day before. During that conversation, Moore refers to the female as a ‘negro’ and a ‘ni—-‘ on multiple occasions.”

   He also referred to a magistrate judge, who is also black, as a ‘fucking negro magistrate.’

   “At one point, Moore states, ‘she needed a bullet in her head right then and move on. Let’s move the body out of the way and keep going.’ Piner responds, ‘That’s what I have been trying to tell you,'” according to the documents.

   After more derogatory comments about the arrestee and the magistrate, the conversation takes an even bleaker turn, as the two officers discuss an upcoming ‘civil war.’

   “Piner tells Moore later in the conversation that he feels a civil war is coming and he is ‘ready.’ Piner advised he is going to buy a new assault rifle in the next couple of weeks. A short time later Officer Piner began to discuss society being close to ‘martial law’ and soon ‘we are just gonna go out and start slaughtering them fucking ni—–. I can’t wait. God, I can’t wait.’ Moore responded that he would not do that. Piner stated, ‘I am ready.'” according to the summary.

   https://portcitydaily.com/local-news/2020/06/24/fired-wilmington-cop-we-are-just-going-to-go-out-and-start-slaughtering-them-f-ni-i-cant-wait-god-i-cant-wait-free-read/
   • gsays 8.1

     26 June 2020 at 6:33 am

     Have you heard anything else about the spate of black men dying by hanging? I've looked thru Google and have only found reference to three events.

     I seem to recall there were upwards of half a dozen of them.
9. Muttonbird 9

   25 June 2020 at 6:48 pm

   https://twitter.com/TheWhiteHorseLC/status/1275904281565114373?s=20
   • SPC 9.1

     25 June 2020 at 7:26 pm

     The Brits need some Vitamin D to get their immune system strength up – they will have the virus for some time.

     The older locals should be on Vitamin D supplements for the winter (oldies don't get as much from sun on the skin in summer as younger ones do)
10. joe90 10

    25 June 2020 at 7:22 pm

    UC Berkeley's newsstand displays the front pages of international newspapers.

    http://archive.li/XmDsR/c072e2f89dfba779c87a4469940d65651e265d77.jpg
11. joe90 11

    25 June 2020 at 7:32 pm

    https://twitter.com/RonaldKlain/status/1275966574869073920

    https://twitter.com/sarahcpr/status/1270157187957116930
12. JohnSelway 12

    25 June 2020 at 8:25 pm

    Update on my post from yesterday regarding me having not been tested during or after leaving mandatory isolation.

    Today I called the Covid 19 hot line to say I was never tested and was never contacted by MoH. The guy tried to argue with me that I had to have been contacted all ready. I assured him I had not been and confirmed all the details I had given them at the time of me leaving the hotel.

    I am being tested tomorrow. I have no answer as to why or how I slipped through the cracks
    • Drowsy M. Kram 12.1

      25 June 2020 at 8:32 pm

      John, thanks for the update – good news that you're being tested.
    • ianmac 12.2

      25 June 2020 at 8:43 pm

      Isn't it great John that there is a testing regime in NZ associated with quarantine. You will feel reassured if yours comes out negative. Most countries just quarantine for 14 days and then get an all clear without testing.
    • anker 12.3

      25 June 2020 at 8:51 pm

      Ok John, well you have done the right thing. Good luck with the text and put your feet up being glad to that you are home.

      Re the smoking room. In all the reading I have done, unless someone coughs over you with the virus, up to fifteen minutes in close contact with them is o.k.
      • JohnSelway 12.3.1

        25 June 2020 at 9:03 pm

        It was just really strange that I had to enter the elevator alone to get to the smoking area but the smoking area was the size of two elevators but allowed up to 4 people in there. The rules were pretty patchwork. I tried smoking out the front where people took their walks and was easy to distance from others but they insisted I used the smoking area. Sometimes I would wait until after 10pm because they closed the smoking area at 10pm and you had to use the outside exercise area if you wanted to smoke.

        A very weird situation.
        • I Feel Love 12.3.1.1

          25 June 2020 at 9:39 pm

          a very weird, and new, unprecedented situation. Good on you John.
        • SPC 12.3.1.2

          26 June 2020 at 6:13 am

          You should have smoked in your room, they would not have known – getting rid of the butts when going out for a walk.

          Smoking indoors when alone is no threat to anyone, whereas getting the virus in a smoking room might well be.
    • Patricia Bremner 12.4

      25 June 2020 at 10:21 pm

      Sure you will be fine. The testing is recent. But you could have found the contact details online earlier if you thought you had been missed.
      • JohnSelway 12.4.1

        25 June 2020 at 10:55 pm

        I don’t really follow the news. It was my friend who brought it up to me a couple days ago that tipped me off that I should have been tested. I did everything I was told in isolation so thought I was fine
        • Incognito 12.4.1.1

          26 June 2020 at 8:10 am

          Odd comment

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