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The current rise of populism challenges the way we think about people’s relationship to the economy.We seem to be entering an era of populism, in which leadership in a democracy is based on preferences of the population which do not seem entirely rational nor serving their longer interests. ...
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Half the country doesn't think the government's leader … is the government's leader. That's extraordinary.
Poll: Only 51% say Luxon is the decision-maker in coalition govt (1news.co.nz)
A lot of political commentary is over-thinking. It's not about some detail of policy, good or bad. It's the inescapable, blindingly obvious fact that National picked a guy who isn't up to the job. It's obvious every time he tries to put words together in a sentence, every time he bristles at being asked a question he doesn't like (which is most of them). Seymour and Peters are both much better at politics than he is.
National could definitely win a second term, but not with Luxon.
It would normally be seen as a stupid question, but in light of the perception that Luxon isn't managing the coalition well I can see why they asked it. Problem is, I suspect many of those asked may not have fully understood the question. Therefore I think the result could be seen as an answer to… which of the three they would like to see as leader of the coalition? That being the case ole Sillymor[on] didn't do very well. 😉
Two's company, three's a crowd!
The old saying 'One boy is worth two boys. two boys is worth half a boy and three boys are no boy'.
Global supply and green tech rare minerals.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-68896707
Oh well. If you prefer your polls from Roy Morgan rather than TV1 the excitement from last night's poll might sag a little.
Roy Morgan has Nat/ACT/NZF at 53%. Lab/Green/TPP at 43%.
The left are doing better but are still well behind. Maybe next time. At the moment the Government are still 10 percentage points ahead.
https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/nz-national-voting-intention-april-2024
Best comparisons are made within pollsters.
Trend: down for coalition parties. According to all of the pollsters, bar none.
In the 20203 election, the right bloc achieved a margin of 11.2% over the left bloc. The margin in the RM is 10%, so that change is within the margin of error (National/ ACT/ NZ First (53%) lead over Labour/ Greens/ Maori (43%) – cut to 10% points in April – Roy Morgan Research).
I suspect the polls will bounce around for some time yet. This is a government reforming at pace, and there's a lot of political risk in that.
They aren't "bouncing around".
As pointed out on other threads, Luxon's polling is uniquely bad. Compare all other PMs. Google away if you don't believe it.
Live in denial if you want, but no polls by any polling organisation have any other message.
"They aren't "bouncing around"."
When 2 polls, within 24 hours, show such different results, then yes they are bouncing around. Luxon has always polled badly in comparison with previous PM's and party leaders, so that's largely irrelevant to current numbers.
Edit – I did google the post election polls. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_New_Zealand_general_election. Since the election, Labour have fluctuated between 21% and 33%. National were =/below the Verian poll in previous polls in February and December. In both the RM and Verrian polls, Nationals drop since the election is below the margin of error. The polls are volatile, which is entirely expected considering the risks the government are taking.
If you drop 3 items from 3 different heights and they all fall, that is not bouncing.
When you drop an item and it bounces back above the point you dropped it from (eg National in the RM poll), that’s a bounce.
“Volatile“? Time will tell, but it seems something's happened in the last month.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_New_Zealand_general_election#Party_vote
Rather than link on the image, look at the actual graph at your link. On your graph, someone's being mischievous including the unsubstantiated TM poll. Without that poll, the 'trend' is very different. Good for the Greens though.
It's not my graph – it's taken from the URL you provided @3.1.1.1.1.
Maybe that graph is distorted on TS, but they look identical to me
You say "volatile", I say 'hairy' – but “stable” it ain’t.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350105315/luxon-middle-strong-and-stable-political-sandwich
Apologies, sloppy language. When I look at the raw graph on-line, the unconfirmed TM poll doesn’t show (as it shouldn’t until it is confirmed), so there is no uptick on the end of the red line. I agree the polls are definitely not stable. I would go so far as to say they are 'bouncing' around.
In leaps and bounds
120 Aotearoa on X: "Party Vote Poll | Talbot Mills (leaked to Newshub). National: 34% (-4) Labour: 33% (+5) Greens: 12% (-2) ACT: 7% (-1) NZF: 6% (-) TPM: 4% (n/a) +/- March 2024." / X (twitter.com)
That's a 'leaked' internal poll. That doesn't make it wrong necessarily, it just makes it of questionable value when looking at trends.
Interesting Obs. What none of these polls are predicting is that Winston may finally stand down before the next election-he will be over 81 then. Jones is trying to position himself as a high-profile replacement for NZF but nobody has Winston's charm/mana.
So all of the polls should probably be read as though NZF get less than 4%.
Safe bet. They have fallen under 5% on all 3 previous occasions they did the deal with Lab/Nat (1999, 2008, 2020).
That's not surprising. NZF voters are driven by an eclectic and fluid mix of causes or conspiracies, but "let's get Winnie globetrotting" is not one of them.
Good point….and a lot of his supporters will be older people who might not be around at the next election.
"Winston may finally stand down before the next election".
Surely not. Winston has read about the former US Senator Strom Thurmond who reached the age of 100 years and 29 days while still in office! Winston plans to beat that performance and to still be an MP in May 2045.
Mind you I plan to be around to see it.
haha….me too.
But Peters comments on RadioNZ Morning Report this morning show his brain is starting to creak. Not sure he is up to it any more.
How many of us could hand our pay rise to charity?
How many of us got pay rises since COVID?
How high an elite is Luxon actually?
With one hand he hands his pay rise to charity. With the other he should be handing the massive tax benefits on his 7 houses that he has granted himself to charity.
He owns them freehold…
He only has his capital gains/rental incomes to console him ..
(Who will end this war on the freehold property owner..?)
Of course, so no ability to deduct interest as an expense.
Time we had a Wealth Tax or a Land Tax.
Yep .!…to both…
I recall another shonkey PM saying he would give his entire salary to charity.
What I don't recall is seeing any evidence that that actually happened.
I'll believe Luxon when I see the evidence, not before.
"I'll believe Luxon when I see the evidence, not before."
I won't be happy to see he has given it to the Upper Room/Akl, the evangelical "church" because that's were it will go (or something very similar, like an anti-abortion assn).
I suspect the your memory is faulty. Please provide a reference for Key saying those words when he was PM.
Quite right alwyn, it was "a good part", not 'entire'. Key said that while leader of the opposition, and committed to continuing the practice if he became PM.
https://fyi.org.nz/request/3486-the-names-of-the-charitable-organisations-john-key-personally-donates-to
So did Key donate 'a good part' of his salary to charity or not? I'm not sure it is any of our business who he donated to, I'm just curious if anyone was ever able to verify it.
Good question. No idea, nor what "a good part" amounts to, year-on-year.
Honest John could verify it, unless he can't recall which charity/charities he donated "a good part" of his parliamentary salary to. And that's possible – after all, even his entire salary would have seemed like so much chicken feed.
It's pointless pondering about Key, except as an indicator of Nat party 'values.'
https://thestandard.org.nz/john-keys-legacy-of-lies/
https://thestandard.org.nz/john-keys-lies-since-the-2014-election-updated/