Daily Review 31/08/2017

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85 comments on “Daily Review 31/08/2017”

  1. joe90 1

    Hot off the press.

  2. mickysavage 2

    Colmar Brunton poll at 6 sounds like it could be interesting. Matthew Hooton is predicting a crisis for National. I get the feeling Labour is over 40 …

    • mickysavage 2.1

      Labour – 43
      National – 41
      Greens – 5
      NZFirst – 8
      MP -1
      Act –
      TOP – 1

      • Bearded Git 2.1.1

        TOP 1% down from 2%…excellent….good to see the Greens back….Colmar always underrates them

        • Cinny 2.1.1.1

          I reckon Greens voters will turn out in force especially after seeing James in action in the debates he is kicking butt there. Red and Green just like Christmas, I’m down with that 😀

          • Anne 2.1.1.1.1

            I rated him the best performer at last night’ TV3 debate.

            If it happens my lounge will be decked out in red and green this Xmas and it won’t have a lot to do with Xmas. 😀

          • greg 2.1.1.1.2

            most green voters are young there not on landlines there higher than 5 percent and i think labour could be higher to given Jacinda is killing nact on face book

        • Union city greens 2.1.1.2

          Gareth, you rich prick, that’s called crows coming home to roost or icing on the cake. lol

      • weka 2.1.2

        Wow, is that a L/G/Mp government?

        • Cinny 2.1.2.1

          It’s looking like Christmas 😀 Not sure if MP will make it

          • Draco T Bastard 2.1.2.1.1

            The only way that the Maori Party make it is if they win a Maori seat and that’s not looking likely. Their support has dropped from their inception.

        • Sans Cle 2.1.2.2

          🙌

        • Craig H 2.1.2.3

          Entirely possible!

          The Mp vote is too small based on the previous Maori TV poll, where they polled 17.5% of the Maori roll party vote. That’s about 1.2% of the total roll, so even if they got no votes at all from the general roll (obviously not happening), they are on track for 2 seats, not 1, assuming they win an electorate (the same Maori TV poll had them in front in 2 Maori electorates, so that seems likely).

          The other important point, as Swordfish has shown, is that CB tends to be slightly in National’s favour over Labour, so this poll may well understate the left bloc.

      • Ad 2.1.3

        Awesome!

      • joe90 2.1.4

        Labour – 43
        National – 41
        Greens – 5
        NZFirst – 8
        MP -1
        Act –
        TOP – 1

        Conniptions ahoy!

      • Ben 2.1.5

        Labour + NZF can form a govt without the Greens. NZF will like that idea, particularly given that they have said they will talk to the party with the most votes first.

        • weka 2.1.5.1

          Ardern has said recently that she still intends to talk to the Greens first. That’s what the MoU was for.

          • mickysavage 2.1.5.1.1

            It is at the stage where L+G is nearly viable. Imagine that!

            • weka 2.1.5.1.1.1

              Am really pleased to see Ardern sticking to the MoU, that’s what is making this possible.

            • starboard 2.1.5.1.1.2

              Nightmare. The $$ is plunging already against the US and AU. Watch the price of fuel hike for a start…that’s just the beginning…

              • Graeme

                I remember having the same “the dollar will plunge” conversation with a fellow tourism dependent retailer before the ’99 election. He got his news from NBR but couldn’t see that it was the best thing that could happento the sector.

                Well, Labour got elected, the “markets” threw a hissy and our dollar dropped, and tourism took off. And it took off from markets that had money to spend, like US and Australia. Seem to remember a lot of farmers spending a bit of money in the local economy too.

                10 – 20% drop in our dollar would be the best thing that could happen, it’ll keep more money in our economy because locally produced items are more attractive and imports more expensive, and will bring more money into the country because we are more price competitive with other countries.

            • Draco T Bastard 2.1.5.1.1.3

              Which means that a number of people need to drop TOP and vote Green.

              A vote for TOP is a wasted vote that could see National back in power.

              • weka

                pretty much. Labour also need to start getting more votes from NZF rather than the Greens.

            • Ant 2.1.5.1.1.4

              Twould be fantastic!

          • Ben 2.1.5.1.2

            Pointless talking to the Greens first if Nat + NZF can form a govt.

            • weka 2.1.5.1.2.1

              Lab and the Greens have always said they would work with NZF if needed.

              The MoU doesn’t rule out NZF, it just says that Labour and the Greens have a commitment to change the govt and will talk to each other after the votes have been counted with the idea of forming govt if that is possible on the numbers. If NZF are also needed they’ll be approached too.

            • greywarshark 2.1.5.1.2.2

              Ben
              Pointless passing opinions without some long-term thinking.

        • McFlock 2.1.5.2

          couple of points more to either, and labour+greens can govern without NZ1.

          While I like the sound of that, Labour will also be able to haggle between the two smaller parties.

          • Carolyn_nth 2.1.5.2.1

            I’m sure Labour will do deals with more than one party, to allow it to maintain control and not be beholden to any one party.

            • McFlock 2.1.5.2.1.1

              Which is still preferable to a “kingmaker” situation.

              • AB

                Yeah – Ardern is smart enough to want NZF in the tent in some form or other even if she doesn’t strictly need them this time around – increases her chances of going 3 terms. Like Key and the Maori Party.
                And 5 years out an NZF without Peters might be a less unpredictable beast.

                • UncookedSelachimorpha

                  “And 5 years out an NZF without Peters might be a less unpredictable beast.”

                  Unless they deliver another iconic figure – probably will be a much, much smaller beast….

        • greg 2.1.5.3

          i want labour /greens to form a gov without NZ first

          • weka 2.1.5.3.1

            This requires more lefties voting Green.

            • Craig H 2.1.5.3.1.1

              Or more NZ First and/or National voters voting Labour :).

              • weka

                Won’t help if the Greens drop below 5%.

                • Robert Guyton

                  When Adern realises she’s unassailable, she’ll direct perhaps-Greens to vote Green. Power moment.

                • Craig H

                  Agree, but Green voters vote Green and keep them above 5%, and meanwhile NZ First and National voters vote Labour, and suddenly we’re at a majority between us!

                  • weka

                    I think so long as Labour don’t do anything stupid, National won’t be forming the next govt. What concerns me more is whether we get a strong Green govt. Six Green MPs isn’t enough for ending poverty or fixing water or climate change. Plus the loss of all that talent. It would also make it hard for NZ to move left, although Bill might be right that it will take another 3 years (which btw, is Labour losing popularity as it holds the status quo and thus doesn’t make a big enough difference).

                    Change the govt yes, but we need to change it to a progressive one and that needs lots of Green MPs. I fear that the shift from Greens to Labour signals that many lefties are happy with a bit of tinkering. That’s the depressing thing atm.

  3. Cinny 3

    HELL YEAH Labour is ahead of National and Jacinda is ahead of Bill WOOOOOO HOOO

    Far out the debate tonight is still to come, HOT DANG that should always happen

  4. ScottGN 4

    She’s unstoppable.

  5. Matt 5

    For me that Whangarei poll last weekend showed that Labour is in the box seat as if they can be competitive in a seat like that where they have been absolutely pummeled since 2005. And what a result tonight. There must now surely be only 3 more weeks left for the most corrupt and unimaginative government. Will they be able to govern alone……

  6. NewsFlash 6

    Still 3 weeks to go, I can see the Greens gaining momentum and getting back to 8, and if Labour can move upwards more as well, they’ll be able to govern on their own.

    Looking forward to the future now

    • Bearded Git 6.1

      Voting starts in 12 days-September 11th. VOTE EARLY!

      • Sanctuary 6.1.1

        And vote often!*

        * this post is to stir up paranoid right wing fear of voter fraud.

    • Dspare 6.2

      NewsFlash
      It is only on the last two Colmar Bruntons that the GP has dropped below 8% (near the 12-16 August period in which CB had them at 4.3%, UMR had them unchanged at 8% as of 11-16 August). The last Roy Morgan has them at 9% and Reid Research at 8.3% (I’m guessing there will be a new Newshub poll soon, and probably another leaked UMR).

      Still, with the potential for polls to become self-fulfilling prophecies around the 5% threshold; it is important for the GP to avoid even the perception of vulnerability.

      • NewsFlash 6.2.1

        Dspare

        Yes, 8% is the usual base support, they have been as high as 15, the long term avg over 20yrs is 8%, I’m hoping they can get to 10% before the election.

        As they say, one day in politics is a long time

      • Eco maori 6.2.2

        Yes the Greens need to be at
        Lab 45
        Nat 30
        Gee 15
        Nzf 10
        Top 6
        Mpt. 4

        This is my wish full election day stats

        • Gristle 6.2.2.1

          Hi EM. This totals at 110. Seats in Parliament = 120. Percentage = 100. Can you advise what the units are, and reallocate if necessary. Cheers.

  7. Sanctuary 7

    Let’s sit back and enjoy three weeks of JDS (Jacinda Derangement Syndrome) from the right…

    • Anne 7.1

      Love it. And as the election draws nearer JDS will reach epidemic proportions.

      24 hour watch on Matthew Hooton coming up?

    • Carolyn_nth 7.2

      Or see those on the right get ARSed with Ardern Resurgence Sickness.

  8. AsleepWhileWalking 8

    Emergency…. My apologies, ahem “transitional” housing under National.

    http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/player?audio_id=201856860

    Summary: cold concrete floor and lack of drinkable water with management refusing to talk to RNZ because…what could anyone say to make this acceptable?

    • AsleepWhileWalking 8.1

      My mistake..further in the interview its all explained. The rooms have rugs, water issue was temporary etc etc.

      Apparently they agent really treated like dogs dropped in a local pound, its all teething problems.

    • greywarshark 8.2

      They paid over $700,000 to buy the facility (the local Maori-named provider) and
      have a three year contract. Presumably they have spent most of the money available for this project on buying the property.

      One would think that a practical gummint would provide some mass-produced furniture and gas bottles and solar showers for hot water.

      Also drinkable water, (note ‘potable’ not as recently used portable). Charities from NZ help out in the Islands and Africa with rainwater collection tanks. We need some charity to help us here in NZ as our government has no charity to those in need.

  9. Dspare 9

    All eyes are likely to be on the debate tonight, but if there is a long period of Hosking waffle or ads consider shifting the tab (or screen). This is what I’ll be mainly watching this evening [edit: Minto just up to the mike now – sound quality is pretty rough and it certainly isn’t as glossy as the TVNZ show, but that suits the subject matter]:

    • Dspare 9.1

      Turei on stage and sound is a lot better now.

      [edit] It is a weird experience watching the TVNZ debate and listening to Turei’s words – gotta be better than whatever English/ Hoskings are spouting. There is a linear distortion to the stream that is a bit unsettling to watch when she moves.

    • Carolyn_nth 9.2

      I gave up on the debate. Hosking was unbearable. Switched to Turei livestream.

      • Dspare 9.2.1

        Hopefully the talk will be available to view in the future, it certainly deserved greater numbers than it got! It’d be interesting to hear from anyone in Christchurch who was there to get their impressions.

        I only watched half of it myself what with; children bedtime dramas, and occasionally turning up the sound on TVNZ debate. But there did seem to be a lot more substance to Turei’s talk, and audience interaction, than in the shallow contest of leaders (as much due to the format as anything).

  10. Barfly 10

    For Bill

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11914930

    “Some people have claimed that Peters would have received a letter every year for the past seven years asking him to confirm his relationship status.

    But that in fact is not the case. The Ministry of Social development says that “annual circumstances letters” were sent to NZ superannuation clients: who do not have personal earnings and who receive the accommodation supplement, or the single living alone rate of NZ Super, or a disability allowance with a permanent medical condition.

    “Any other NZ superannuitant is not routinely contacted to reconfirm their circumstances”.

  11. greg 11

    where is BM ???

    • Carolyn_nth 11.1

      BM is singing:

      That’s me in the corner
      That’s me in the spotlight
      Losing my religion
      Trying to keep up with you
      And I don’t know if I can do it
      Oh no, I’ve said too much
      I haven’t said enough

      I thought that I heard you laughing
      I thought that I heard you sing
      I think I thought I saw you try

      But that was just a dream
      Try, cry, why try

    • Banned for pissing us off one too many times.

    • Sans Cle 12.1

      The one that made me lol, but it’s a bit too disrespectful, was the “f*¢@ off back to England”. It’s kind of so dumb, but funny for some reason!

  12. ianmac 13

    National will come out fighting after bad poll for them. Watch out! No holds barred! Duck or fight back!

  13. Pete 14

    DHBs are under real pressure but things are going to get much worse – if the apoplexy tide on Kiwiblog about the poll is any indication.

  14. Robert Guyton 16

    Goodness me! Those love-heart-studded,”Thank you Metiria” billboards are something, aren’t they!

  15. Poission 17

    its a biggy

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    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    1 week ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • The coming resource war.
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  • Māori Language Week with The Civilian
    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Will Horizons act on climate change?
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • BORA reform is stalled
    Eighteen months ago, the government promised to strengthen the Bill of Rights Act, by explicitly affirming the power of the courts to issue declarations of inconsistency and requiring Parliament to formally respond to them. So how's that going? I was curious, so I asked for all advice about the proposal. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • A ditch for him to die in
    Last week, English Prime Minister Boris Johnson boldly declared that he would rather die be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit. Unfortunately for him, the UK parliament accepted the challenge, and promptly dug one for him. The "rebellion bill" requires him to ask for and secure yet another temporary ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Warning! Warning! Danger Jacinda Ardern! Danger Marama Davidson! Warning!
    Lost In Political Space: The most important takeaway from this latest Labour sexual assault scandal, which (if I may paraphrase Nixon’s White House counsel’s, John Dean’s, infamous description of Watergate) is “growing like a cancer” on the premiership, is the Labour Party organisation’s extraordinary professional paralysis in the face of ...
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  • Union solidarity with Ihumatao land occupation
    by Daphna Whitmore Every Sunday for the past two months unionists from First Union, with supporters from other unions, have set out to the Ihumatao land protest, put up gazebos and gas barbeques, and cooked food for a few hundred locals and supporters who have come from across the country. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: The wrong kind of trees?
    Newsroom today has an excellent, in-depth article on pine trees as carbon sinks. The TL;DR is that pine is really good at soaking up carbon, but people prefer far-less efficient native forests instead. Which is understandable, but there's two problems: firstly, we've pissed about so long on this problem that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • No freedom of speech in Turkey
    Canan Kaftancioglu is a Turkish politician and member of the opposition Republican People's Party (CHP). Like most modern politicians, she tweets, and uses the platform to criticise the Turkish government. She has criticised them over the death of a 14-year-old boy who was hit by a tear gas grenade during ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speaker: Tadhg Stopford: Why I’m standing for the ADHB
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  • Good little vassals
    The Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has published their report on whether the SIS and GCSB had any complicity in American torture. And its damning. The pull quote is this:The Inquiry found both agencies, but to a much greater degree, the NZSIS, received many intelligence reports obtained from detainees who, ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Who Shall We Turn To When God, And Uncle Sam, Cease To Defend New Zealand?
    Bewhiskered Cassandra? Professor Hugh White’s chilling suggestion, advanced to select collections of academic, military and diplomatic Kiwi experts over the course of the past week, is that the assumptions upon which Australia and New Zealand have built their foreign affairs and defence policies for practically their entire histories – are ...
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  • The Politics of Opposition
    For most of the time I was a British MP, my party was out of government – these were the Thatcher years, when it was hard for anyone else to get a look-in. As a front-bencher and shadow minister, I became familiar with the strategies required in a parliamentary democracy ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
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  • More expert comments on the Canadian fluoride-IQ paper
    The Green et al (2019) fluoride/IQ is certainly controversial – as would be expected from its subject (see If at first you don’t succeed . . . statistical manipulation might help and Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear). Anti-fluoride campaigners have been actively promoting it ...
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  • The return to guerrilla war in Colombia
    by Gearóid Ó Loingsigh On August 29th a video in which veteran FARC (Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia) commander Iván Márquez announced that they had taken up arms again was released. There was no delay in the reaction to it, from longtime Liberal Party figure and former president Uribe, for ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Air New Zealand identifies this enormous plot of unused land as possible second airport site
    Air New Zealand couldn’t believe its luck that this seemingly ideal piece of real estate had so far gone entirely unnoticed. Air New Zealand’s search for a site to build a second Auckland Airport may have made a breakthrough this afternoon, after employees scanning Google satellite imagery spotted a huge, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Redline on the Labour Party
    No-one on the anti-capitalist left in this country today puts forward a case that Labour is on the side of the working class.  There are certainly people who call themselves ‘socialist’ who do, but they are essentially liberals with vested interests in Labourism – often for career reasons. Nevertheless, there ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • New Fisk
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Labour’s failure
    When National was in government and fucking over the poor for the benefit of the rich, foodbanks were a growth industry. And now Labour is in charge, nothing has changed: A huge demand for emergency food parcels means the Auckland City Mission is struggling to prepare for the impending arrival ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Ardern attempts to vaccinate Clarke Gayford live on television to prove that it’s safe
    Gayford, pictured here on The Project, before things got wildly out of control. A bold public relations move by the Government to encourage parents to vaccinate their children has gone horribly wrong. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern appeared on tonight’s episode of Three’s The Project, where the plan was for her ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Has Mr. Whippy gone too far by parking on our front lawns?
    Mr. Whippy’s business model has driven it down a dark road of intimidation. Residents in major centres around the country are becoming disgruntled by the increasingly aggressive actions of purported ice cream company Mr. Whippy, who have taken to parking on people’s front lawns and doorsteps in a desperate attempt ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Cleaning up the water
    Today the government released its Action Plan for Healthy Waterways, aimed at cleaning up our lakes and rivers. Its actually quite good. There will be protection for wetlands, better standards for swimming spots, a requirement for continuous improvement, and better standards for wastewater and stormwater. But most importantly, there's a ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Fronting up
    Today I appeared before the Environment Committee to give an oral submission on the Zero Carbon Bill. Over 1,500 people have asked to appear in person, so they've divided into subcommittees and are off touring the country, giving people a five minute slot each. The other submitters were a mixed ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear
    Anti-fluoride activists have some wealthy backers – they are erecting billboards misrepresenting the Canadian study on many New Zealand cities – and local authorities are ordering their removal because of their scaremongering. Many New Zealanders ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Democracy – I Don’t Think So
    So, those who “know best” have again done their worst. While constantly claiming to be the guardians of democracy and the constitution, and respecters of the 2016 referendum result, diehard Remainers (who have never brought themselves to believe that their advice could have been rejected) have striven might and main ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago
  • Government says it will now build just one really nice home
    Following publication of this article, the Ministry has requested it to be noted that this supplied image is not necessarily representative of what the final house will look like, and it “probably won’t be that nice.” As part of today’s long-anticipated reset of the Government’s flagship KiwiBuild policy, Housing Minister ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Imperialism and your cup of coffee
    Over the next week or two we will be running three synopses of parts of the opening chapter of John Smith’s Imperialism in the 21st Century (New York, Monthly Review Press, 2016).  The synopsis and commentary below is written by Phil Duncan. Marx began Capital not with a sweeping historical ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Still juking the stats
    The State Services Commission and Ombudsman have released another batch of OIA statistics, covering the last six months. Request volumes are up, and the core public service is generally handling them within the legal timeframe, though this may be because they've learned to extend rather than just ignore things. And ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago

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