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From an email from the leader’s office.
“Can you join me for my State of the Nation address at 1pm on Monday 27 January?
It’s at St Leonard’s Road School, St Leonard’s Road, Kelston, West Auckland.
If you can’t make it along, you can read and watch the speech at www.labour.org.nz soon afterwards.
This year is election year and Labour will be bringing a message of hope to New Zealand.
In this speech, I’ll lay out how Labour will create opportunities for every New Zealander, no matter who they are or where they were born.
I’ll be talking about an economy that works for all of us – one where every Kiwi can get ahead, and where no one is left behind.
This marks the start of our election year journey towards building a better New Zealand together. I hope to see you there.
Regards
David Cunliffe
Leader of the Labour Party”
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I hope for his sake it is more inspiring than his XMAS message that was on TV.
David Cunliffe is going to crush John Key this year like a bug.
Keep dreaming.
Yeeah – we sure will! New Zealand and ALL New Zealanders deserve far better than this nightmare of a government.
Well, not all New Zealanders have had enough of them. But the numbers are growing. The problem is identifying another government that isn’t just the basically same sort of people in another guise.
You over estimate the loyalty of politicians to a cause when power beckons.
The 1% don’t want the minion class who eulogies them to win for the simple reason that it harms their wealth. There is a divergence between the Tory right and the needs of the richest, because we all now know (or should) that excess inequality harms profits.
@ Ad…. Cunliffe might do exactly that!.
..imo .the reason Labour failed so miserably last time was because Phil Goff was gobsmackingly the leader !….people have long memories ….they remembered Goff was a core supporter of Rogernomics ….so it seemed quite incredible that he was now leading the Labour Party against the sale of state assets….it was just too much to swallow and the Labour Party lacked credibility….. so people didnt vote
Oh well while those two inflated egos do battle hopefully the Greens will concentrate on the issues and take all the party votes.
Yes the “Greens state of the nation” speech is a week before in Wellington
Picnic for the Planet election year launch on Sunday 26 January at Waitangi Park in Wellington starting at 11am. facebook event
i ve got that feeling to! but dont get complacent we have a job to do voters to get out
Cunliffe’s on-line ticketing is almost up to the standards of Kim Dotcom’s Party Party ticketing. Almost, but not quite.
What’s he going to say?
I hope he says that Labour will legislate to stop people who don’t live here from owning land here.
+1…and I hope he will protect Kiwi Bank from Goldman Sachs…and look after all the poor kids and their families and their communities…only then will we have a good NZ!
I hope he says the assets sold by John Key during this term will be nationalised without compensation.
That will fuck the Tories for generations to come as they will never be able to sell our country again.
That would f*** New Zealand for generations to come as we would be seen as anarchists.
The government is sovereign and can make laws as it pleases (ask Key).
So why would we be seen as anarchists and why would that fuck New Zealand anyway?
Anarchists don’t nationalise anything – never have, never will. Learn what politics you talking if you going to comment on political boards. Otherwise you come across as an ignorant fool who has been spoon fed propaganda all their lives.
Hopefully he will announce a Living wage and do something about the ‘Outsourcing’ that the Nats are doing. IE the ferry that will be built in Bangladesh, and the Raikl cars that went poverseas at the cost of Kiwi’s Livelyhoods.
Good one, would have still been cheaper to just give the kiwi boat builders 8 million and then got the Bangladeshis to build the boat.
The tax payer would have still been 8 million better off, I for one appreciate the respect John Key and the Nats give to the tax payers of NZ.
Only an idiot would not see this as a good deal.
But you lot think boats and trains are old technology not worth the future…
Don’t know how people are going to cross the seas though in the future, nor move people en masse …… yea, na, no future in moving people …… only in movies. Movies are the future ……
Do you think Bangladeshi steel will be up to scratch? Will it be reliable BM? Because of course I’m sure you are aware that cheap Chinese steel coming in for the Chch rebuild has been found to be not up to the standard required …..
but just ignore all that eh….. it is all about the dollar ….. quality never goes anywhere…. is why the Germans have a shit economy and their stuff breaks down and is no good for use as tanks ….. yea, na, repeat repeat…. spin cycle dumbos
You raise a good point.
Only white people should build our boat, those darkies can’t be trusted, shifty pricks will probably use rope to hold the steel together instead of rivets and probably cheap rope at that!.
Damn you National!
Who said anything about white people? What has that got to do with it?
You clearly are unaware of sub-standard steel coming into Chch. Are you aware of the quality of the Chinese train sets? Are you familiar with Spanish ferry building standards? They can’t keep their props on. Are Spanish white BM? Are you aware of Bangladeshi standards? Or do you just repeat what is fed to you? Do you have original thoughts BM?
Why do we even need another ferry boat BM? Boats are old technology aren’t they BM? We don’t need ferry boats – we can just dream ourselves over the strait while we’re at the movies. Can’t we BM.
Seem a bit racist there vto.
And like the Trains how much will it cost to FIX the fucking thing to actually work in NZ conditions properly?
What?, I assume you’re talking about this ferry.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/9608336/Ferry-contract-angers-boatbuilders
Of course BM doesn’t see anything wrong with Kiwis being out of work, money going offshore, skills being lost……. It’s all the immediate bottom line. Bangladesh has a long history of building boats, almost all made out of wood, so it could possibly be a well built ship, despite this government’s demonstrated record of buying rubbish. On the other hand, we pay for bums to sit on the green leather to run this country and do something about the future of this country, not to run it down and fill it with cows to the extent that we won’t even have tourists coming.
Why the fuck do you care Muzz.
You’re based in Oz, what NZ does is no concern of yours.
and yet he still has a better idea of what life’s like here than you fucking do.
Whatever, Felchy McGoatfucker.
Plagiarism is the sincerest form of diversion…
I did like that one, I’ve added to my arsenal.
Why do I care? Maybe, just maybe, I identify as a Kiwi, have strong roots and children, family, and friends here, and will be moving back once my contract finishes. Of course, that’s human type stuff that you seem to have trouble understanding.
Now for my question. Following your rationale, what does your Glorious Leader care about? He’s based in Hawaii.
none residents will not be aloud to buy existing homes its policy
I hope he’s going to announce a few resignations and replacements. Otherwise I’d be a bit dubious about whatever else he says.
+1
There are so many old Labour MPs that need to stand down it isn’t funny.
There are so many old Labour MPs that need to stand down it isn’t funny.
x10000
x 1,000,000,000
maybe we need to start a facebook group of all those tired old MP’s that should go?
Some of them aren’t all that old.
Old is a state of mind, not a state of body.
And they will hang on by their fingernails instead of doing whats good for the Party and standing down.
Starting with Parker.
He is a red Tory. Would go well as English’s associate minister.
No, Parker is the right person for Finance for Labour. I would have picked Mallard, Goff and King need to go.
Not King. She was easily one of the most competent Ministers under Clark. Time for Labour to clean out the closet but let’s not have a bloody cultural revolution.
“was”
In what way is Parker right?
How is he going to reform the economy to distribute the nations wealth amongst all its citizen’s.
Not tinker, but reform.
iam in the mt roskill electorate the nats are trying lump us with Epsom parasite vermin we need phil here or they will push people out there of homes .
Where is St. Leonard’s Road School, Kelston?
How do I get there on public transportation?
I could be there at 1 pm on a Monday afternoon, but my partner is working then.
Where is St Leonards Road School ???
Where indeed ?. Once you have worked that bit out, try the Maxx public transport web site
The map is here AmaKiwi
https://maps.google.co.nz/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=St+Leonards+Road+School,+Kelston,+Auckland&aq=0&oq=st+leonards+road+school&sll=-41.24437,174.761855&sspn=0.428008,1.056747&vpsrc=0&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=&t=m&z=17&iwloc=A&cid=4460051798350769619
There is a good train service into New Lynn but after that I am not sure. Where are you travelling from?
Thanks, Mickey.
My point is that a map and directions should be included with David’s announcement for all to read.
Dotcom is OK in assuming people don’t need a map to get to the Vector arena for his bash. Not so for St. Leonard’s school.
And God said: “let there be Google Maps”‘ and it was so.
😈
Geez, what have the poor children of St Leonards Rd school done to have this lot turn up on them.
27th is Auckland Anniversary day but would not count on being trains. They are supposed to be installing electrification for most of January so far no sign of any progress so who knows what is happening
Maybe the local Labour Party should organise shuttles between the train station and the school …
115 and 113 buses go fromNew Lynn down the back streets to those schools around Archibald Rd. 130 (and variations) and 224 go up the Great North Rd to stop on Gt North Rd opposite the junction with Archibald Rd – walk down Archibald Rd from there.
I think all those bus routes start in Auckland CBD and pass through New Lynn transport centre.
Try catching the train – get off at Fruitvale road station – and walk the rest of the way – about a 15-20 min walk.
I wondered what had happened to David until I saw a caption competition on the “Keeping Stock” blogsite. DC has obviously been copying Moses with his 40 days on Mt Sinai.
I guess that his 40 days are up and it is time for him to return from the mountain top. I doubt if he will be able to match the ten commandments of course.
Actually he probably should have read his bible a little more carefully. Like Moses and the Jews David is condemned to lead the Labour Party for forty YEARS in the desert. Sorry folks but the next time in Government will be 2053.
So you’re comparing DC with Moses creating a new covenant with God, after leading an oppressed people from slavery and heralding the creation of a new Israel?
What a totally cutting putdown, I don’t know how he’ll ever recover.
“I don’t know how he’ll ever recover”
me too. I’m sure he (DC) feels utterly threatened to the extent he curls up into a little ball by propagandists such as the almighty Alwyn.
lol…he came from a good Anglican family…with the New Testament ‘God of Love’….
I admit I don’t really think David compares himself to, or thinks he is, Moses. I suspect he really thinks he is Moses’ boss, the big chap with the booming voice.
You remember how the story continues of course don’t you. Moses died and never did get to the promised land. Even with DC’s powers I don’t think he would ever recover from that would he?
As the liturgy goes, at least according to “The Vicar of Dibley”. Here endeth the second lesson.
Actually, at least from my viewpoint, it has to end here as my theological knowledge is exhausted. I didn’t do to badly though considering it must be more that 50 years since I saw Charlton Heston, in his pre-NRA days, play Moses in the film. Like many University English students I got most of my knowledge of such things from Classic Comics and the movies.
Gosh Alwyn! What you think sure is exciting and not in the least bit self-serving nor vacuous, please can you tell us more things you think?
There, there knucky.
Time for you to have a lie down. We don’t want to get you over-excited do we?
You’ll just have to wait till tomorrow’s instalment.
😆 I see QoT has your measure today anyway.
Off to bed Knucky. Time for you to leave the adults to their conversation.
We’ll send your nanny up to tuck you in.
Hmm. Man tells a Bible story and then tries to get me into bed. Eww.
Graham Capill? Is that you?
😆
You think Cunliffe thinks he works for steven joyce?????
That possibility really does frighten me. I hadn’t thought of that one.
Please say it isn’t so.
you said it.
” I suspect he really thinks he is Moses’ boss, the big chap with the booming voice.”
No you have misinterpreted me.
I said that I suspected that David Cunliffe thought that he, meaning Cunliffe, WAS the big chap. That would require that David C thought that he was Stephen Joyce, not that he WORKED for Stephen Joyce. Unless of course God works for Stephen Joyce and SJ outranks God in the hierarchy. The mind bogles!
I can’t imagine that DC would really think that about Joyce. It would mean Cunliffe would have to get a Bruce Willis type haircut and go for the shaven head look.
In the meantime that is enough frivolity for the day. I have things I have to get done.
You remember how the story continues of course don’t you. Moses died and never did get to the promised land. Even with DC’s powers I don’t think he would ever recover from that would he?
Moses dies within sight of the promised land, secure in the knowledge his people will get there.
So … now you’re saying that DC doesn’t think the movement is all about his personal success, as long as New Zealanders are the better for it?
God, will your killer blows never stop …
😆
I would certainly like to think that was what he thought. The problem is that he would be the first politician in history to genuinely think that, although Mahatma Gandhi got pretty close.
So no, I fear he doesn’t really think like that.
Of course that was after his God told him it was OK to invade Israel and kill all the inhabitants. Nice God that chap
No one said the God of the Old Testament was nice, Ron.
@ alywn …you read the wrong comics….. Moses has got nothing to do with it! ….you need to meet Aslan….he will sort it all out for you
“Wrong will be right, when Aslan comes in sight,
At the sound of his roar, sorrows will be no more,
When he bares his teeth, winter meets its death,
And when he shakes his mane, we shall have spring again.”
― C.S. Lewis, The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe
I would have to agree, that really sounds like a successful political leader.
Sounds more like the way that David Lange was described in his prime than David Cunliffe though.
I really ought to have another try at C. S. Lewis, if that is typical. I never did get into his work.
Atlas Shrugged might be more your thing.
Wash your mouth out! That stuff is completely unreadable.
How did you manage to get past page 3?
I have no idea what you’re talking about. It comes recommended by people like you, so I just figured…
Do you always take other people’s recommendations and pass them on without, apparently, knowing anything about the topic they are talking about?
I must assume it is so as you appear to never have read even part of a work which you are recommending as reading matter. I shall remember that when I see something else you are talking about as it appears you don’t require even a smidgeon of knowledge on a topic before you are willing to utter your thoughts.
I at least tried to read Rand, even if I didn’t get very far. I read the first 10 pages, skipped about 200 and then read another half dozen. She was far worse than either Marx, Engels or Lenin. To be fair I read the first two in what was not a terribly good translation and they may have been better in the original German.
She was probably better than Stalin though. His style was pretty awful.
You have heard of those people have you?
🙄
If you want to get to know me better, try ‘The Silver Chair‘. 🙂
Geez, CS Lewis was an even worse poet than his pal Tolkein, wasn’t he? And here was I thinking nobody could be a worse poet than Tolkein.
yep, his writing was pretty clunky at times (though quite good at others) and his themes a bit derivative – but they were children’s books, I guess …
What about McGonagall?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_McGonagall
“Acclaimed as the worst poet in British History”.
Do you realise that that implies that there could be worse poets in other countries, or other languages?
No, no, a thousand times no!
Thanks for the laugh.
Yeah, but the google search results suggested he was pretty well regarded as one of the poetic epic fails of all time, not just a winner in the British Isles. I’d have spent more time researching others but then I’d miss too much of this and the Internet Party circus.
You might be onto something there.
Cats that look like Cunliffe?
Ah well, at least DC doesn;t believe in chemtrails and smacking your kid senseless like your mate Colin Craig.
This appears to be a reply to a comment of mine, although what it has to do with me I have no idea.
I would request that you show some evidence that I have EVER expressed any approval of Colin Craig or that in any way he could be interpreted as “my mate”
You can also give some evidence that I have ever showed a belief in Chemtrails or in “smacking your kid senseless”
Otherwise I think an apology is appropriate
You do support John Key and National, don’t you?
Then Colin Craig’s your mate. Suck it up, princess.
He should be happy with that. As apologies go, that one’s pretty awesome.
What complete and utter bullshit.
I think that the NATIONAL party will make a vastly better government than the Labour party and its cohorts will. That doesn’t have a damn thing to do with Colin Craig and his vacuous views.
You will also have noted that Key and the National MPs voted FOR Sue Bradford’s bill won’t you.
On the other hand you are clearly in favour of Peter Dunne as MP for Ohariu if we follow you logic. After all he was a Minister in the last Labour Government wasn’t he?
As I say, put up or shut up.
Some people just can’t accept an apology with good grace. They mostly vote National I reckon. Or ACT.
Perhaps you could tell me where the supposed apology is.
There is nothing from amirite, who implied that I must accept the views of Colin Craig, and merely a fatuous remark from felix.
get it right felix her mate crazy Colin Craig aka (the ccc)”dude they never landed on the moon”
praising with faint damnation…
Unless the Labour party rids itself of that old-guard, and soon – it won’t be around in 40 years.
If instead it returns to its roots and begins to actually represent that ‘broader church’ we all hear about (mainly when the right wing find it convenient to do so), then it has some hope after 2017.
Indeed – if it manages to rid itself of the troughers and the neo-libs, it probably has a ‘brighter future’ (unlike the one the majority of Kiwis were promised last time).
Incidentally – Wayne Hope on TDB I reckon has it about right [correct] in that the left-right dividing line exists within the Labour Party.
For that, for taking traditional supporters for granted, for merely being the least worst option when there weren’t too many alternatives – a bit of mea culpa is in order ALONGSIDE some policies that demonstrate actual change is in the wind. I expect we might see that from Cunliffe – I understand its going to be a gradual process – but there better be some pretty bloody definitive signals that it is their programme. ‘cos if not – you know what? – there ARE other options.
Wudn wanna be in his shoes aye!
wrong last year the membership took the party back cunliff was installed by the membership with a huge majourity the governing body has ability to remove any mps who try to hijack the party
very different to nat corerate apointees
forty YEARS in the desert.
In 40 years no government has produced a current account surplus.
http://www.rbnz.govt.nz/statistics/key_graphs/current_account/
Thanks for the link Poission. Kind of puts into perspective the propaganda surrounding increased spending that the MSM was recently on about. There’s obviously no benefit when the increased spending is funded through increased borrowing, something that the right wing reporters were at pains to ignore.
My message to David Cunliffe is simply this: Draw us a bottom line Mr Cunliffe, not for the comfortable middle class we and they know that they will be well looked after,
Where Mr Cunliffe is your societal bottom line, spell that out for the benefit of the 800,000 and you may just provoke any number of them to cast a vote for Labour,
My opinion is that your ‘state of the nation speech’ should not only spell out KiwiBuild but give as much oxygen to what Labour plans are surrounding State Housing,
Next on my list is the means of addressing child poverty along with drawing that societal bottom line for the Social Welfare system,
My opinion is that platitudes and generalities in addressing these core issues which effect the Have Not’s on a daily basis will gain you and Labour very little, the bread of the RED Labour Party is in effect on the plate waiting for you Mr Cunliffe to add some butter or jam…
My message is have some substance… we get enough fluff from key and english
Basically, don’t do this:
http://tvnz.co.nz/politics-news/david-shearer-s-new-zealand-speech-in-full-4777927
have you emailed him… you can’t be too sure.
Btw, David has a Facebook page and he does reply to comments there:
https://www.facebook.com/david.cunliffe.labour
are you sure it is him because my simple question proved too hard for him?
by fluff you mean rock solid pragmatism that has set the country up to be outperform the rest of the world in 2014? pass the fluff please.
Source? Or are you as illiterate as Fisiani? OECD shows us slowing in comparison to the rest of the OECD. The only metric we continue to perform better at is debt repayment, but the comparison makes our forecast look childish and uneducated.
oh stop retorting with facts, fisiani, infused, BM and tightNighty dont DO facts.
That is kind of obvious from reading their posts…
ah yes, but not to THEM.
Some comparisons:
OVERALL RANKING
# 1 Netherlands
#8 Australia
#12 UK
#21 US & Japan
#23 NZ & Israel
AFFORD TO EAT
Price Level of Food – Food Price Inflation Volatility
# 1 Netherlands: 6 – 7
#8 Australia: 19-3
#12 UK: 21-6
#21 US: 11-1
#21 Japan: 52-1
#23 NZ: 24-6
# 23 Israel: 24-7
FOOD QUALITY
Nutritional Diversity – Access to Safe Water
# 1 Netherlands: 3-0
#8 Australia: 5-0
#12 UK: 16-0
#21 US: 3-2
#21 Japan: 31-0
#23 NZ: 9-0
#23 Israel: 21-0
UNHEALTHY EATING
Diabetes – Obesity
# 1 Netherlands: 9-25
#8 Australia: 23-37
#12 UK: 18-37
#21 US: 36-46
#21 Japan: 16-6
#23 NZ: 32-39
#23 Israel: 26-36
How the hell do we have less access to safe water than Australia? That one ranking on its own should be enough to consign any government to purgatory.
wow – didn’t notice that one…
No, we mean lies and misdirections.
The Cunliffe will be rich in rhetoric and oratory. Dramatic pauses for effect and pretended outrage. He will delight those who see him as The Messiah. He will use the word KIWI as a prefix to half his speech. He will imply that he will solve all problems and hope that listeners will infer such a ridiculous message. All this in a time of boom and a growing healthy economy. No one is listening to Labour other than Labour.
Not at all Fisiani, the economic conditions are after 5 years of stagnation under National, but due to external matters they have improved .
Not due to ‘borrow and hope’ Bill and 4th rate Golf player Key
Then you have absolutely nothing to worry about, eh.
It’s not like the Labour Party has just recently had an increase in membership or anything, and Green candidates did really badly in the recent local elections, didn’t they?
The booming economy is all-pervasive and very very definite, really truly honest – Hallensteins didn’t release any bad news today for example, and everyone is over the whole forestry deaths thing – they keep dying, yada yada.
John Banks is going to win, and become a judge. Kim.com will be extradited to the USA, and convicted and sentenced to death, and John Key will be invited to administer the lethal dose while Obama leads a “John! John! John!” chant.
All is well on Planet Fisiani.
The Key will be rich in rhetoric and empty slogans. Dramatic pauses for effect and pretended outrage. He will delight those who see him as The Messiah. He will use the word ordinary bloke as a prefix to half his speech. He will imply that he has solved all problems and lie to listeners who will not question such a ridiculous message. All this in a time of over $50 billion government debt (and rising), high unemployment, and a failed economic vision. The ones listening are those who hang their tongues out in panting excitement that his promise that one day, soon, they will enjoy riches such as his. Fool them once shame on The Key. fool them for five years shame on Fisiani et al
FIFY
Yes 50 Billion in debt not the 150 Billion it could and would have been. The 50 billion is the price we paid for keeping New Zealanders in comfort following the economic mismangement we inherited from 9 sad years of typical Labour incompetance. Bill English has been taking the rough edges off the recession and maintaining near full employment such that we are now the star economy in the OECD. The only thing stopping a National landslide is MMP and voter apathy.
National Economics 101 by fisiani… when in debt call it good by saying it could have been worse, and then pick an arbitrary number and say it like it is true . When in opposition rail about the $18 billion debt of the other mob. There’s more to intelligence than being able to read it seems.
Every proposal for the last 5 years to cut spending and thus reduce debt is instantly rejected by the Left. Look at the outrage yesterday over stopping the CTU rort of millions for example. Even worse than railing against reducing spending Labour want to extend in work benefits to people not in work and the Greens just want to photocopy the currency. Vote Labour get the loony Greens pulling the strings. Vote National and get a grand coalition not beholding to any of the small parties.,
Not true – most on the left were happy to cut spending on the ministerial limo fleet, but someone wanted a heated seat…
Yep I agree McFlock, labour couldn’t even get the car decision correct. Why move from Holdens to BMW’s anyway.
labour got the initial decision right, but the numpty who signed for the renewal is an incompetent who never remembers even the most basic details of his life
Gosh, Fis, I didn’t take you for innumerate, but I think you should know that the Greens proposed to raise capital by selling government bonds. Just because some people call it “printing money” doesn’t mean you shouldn’t look behind the rhetoric and find out the details.
Oh, and the CTU thing, we covered this yesterday, when you failed miserably to refute the facts, as contained in ACC’s report. I can appreciate that you don’t want to acknowledge that your mistress is playing politics with workplace safety in an election year and all, but facts are facts, eh. Telling obvious porkies just reduces your mistress’ chances of becoming PM.
innumertae, illiterate. Let’s call the whole thing off.
yes that’s right, National don’t put in failed ideological ideas that were suggested by 1 seat minor parties… oh wait charter schools… never mind carry on blindly sprouting rubbish
will you be doing the edinburgh festival this year?
Tax cuts for the rich proved expensive.
A truly left government would have raise taxes on these parasites and not got into debt.
+1000
That is the sole reason we are in debt up to our eye balls. Bacause the bludgers and parasites of socirty have not paid their way.
That’s only half the problem. The other half is that this nation insists on sourcing it’s supply of money from foreign bankster loans, instead of simply issuing debt free NZD as it is empowered to do.
Vote National and watch your country being taken from you.
I note you write “we” when you refer to the government…
yes
Have you read what the OECD says about NZ? Whilst it is not bad, it is not exactly glowing with praise. Also the issues raised are all issues that Labour and Cunliffe have a solution, whilst Small and wave stands on the sidelines.
http://www.oecd.org/eco/surveys/new-zealand-2013.htm
Also forecasts show that we are not expected to grow as fast as the average OECD.
As I say not a bad review, but far from perfect. A B or B+ with a could do better.
English gave $50b in tax cuts to the rich.
If Labour had stayed in power in 2008, and simply maiantained the staus quo tax system, there would be no debt at all today.
And rather than sevicing interest payments to Keys rich foreign mates and chinamen, we could be eradicating poverty and feeding our starving children.
…..just as long as he dosn’t start talking about “The New Zealand People” a la the Crosby T inspired “Australian People”, or the “American People”.
I suspect there’s a Pagani or two who’re buying into that technique (all the while sipping the latest of late Ch ch chArdoney)
And btw .. Josie: Boy! Boy OH Boy! – do I have a tip for YOU on the latest flavour!
(Rilly Rilly gorjiss). (It’s an M’bro sclusive – ‘cud go either way – but right now – Wow! WOman! Whoar. I mean – not just a Phil Ure Whoar … but a Whooooooooooooooar!)
…. I’ve also got some Bangladeshi whose rilly rilly trustworthy whose willing to get your kids to their daily whilst you’re off whoring (minimum wage – less even if you like) ….. and you know what? – they’re USED to that godawful Horowhenus/Kapiti traffic – so … experiemced what?
or New Zealand Fuckiong Inc
With 150-250,000 people under/unemployed in New Zealand and another 500,000 or so living on the minimum wage, Cunliffe represents some hope as opposed to NO HOPE from the corrupt National Party Business Roundtable Vested Interest Government.
stop making up numbers. As you can see NZ has more people employed than ever before. Stop moaning and start enjoying your brighter future.
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/new-zealand/unemployment-rate
Um, has New Zealand’s population risen during that time? Because if it has, you would probably be better quoting percentages, y’know, just for honesty’s sake.
WaRNING
IRONY ALERT
“fisiani 7.3.1
16 January 2014 at 1:53 pm
Yes 50 Billion in debt not the 150 Billion it could and would have been.”
fisiani 7.5.1
16 January 2014 at 3:54 pm
stop making up numbers.
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tracey – by the time fisiani gets to writing the actual numbers, he’s lost his train of thought, so he grabs whatever he thinks sounds right. A bit like Bill English/Stephen Joyce.
And if you do go get numbers for him that completely invalidate his comment he just ignores it and goes off and sprouts nonsense somewhere else, much like English/Key/Joyce/rest of NAct
2014 is New Zealand’s economic “sugar rush”, financed by insurers.
Had nothing to do with the government.
In a separate meeting and speaking with a totally different vocabulary and accent, Cunliffe will then reassure NZ’s media and business leaders that he didn’t actually mean any of that stuff and that they should understand he was just telling the workers and activists what they needed to hear.
Xox
Kiwi first,
STATE Housing boost,
No youth unemployment, training or work.
Sustainable population economic policy
Immigration policy.
Set up a proper Public Broadcasting Service, FTA TVNZ is total crap
Lower electricity costs, drive price down and repurchase State Assets. Upset the money changers, JK’s mates.
You can make an omelette…
Our people need us now
Let my people go!
I want to know what he’s going to do about the number of people that have been “let go” under this administration. Slogans won’t do it.
link?
Cant wait to hear another monumental policy announcement like the truly inspirational “kiwi assure “
I am sure having 93 insurance companies will make all the difference,
another Labour master stroke
If there are 92 dickheads in a room, the 93rd person can change your entire experience.
Sounds like a Green party conference
Funi Man made a funny.
More made up numbers Naki? You’re not to be trusted.
Cunliffe needs to grab the inititaive in this speech. Kinda like what Brash did with his Orewa speech 10 years ago (yes that long). He really only has one chance.
You mean, when it’s widely (and favourably) reported in the MSM? No, wait…
He has plenty of chances, this is a good one.
“A Labour-led government will make good on its promise to regulate the electricity industry and stamp out ‘super-profits’, a threat that has weighed on power company stocks, deputy leader David Parker says.”
I wouldn’t call about 8% a super-profit
No-one cares what you’d call it, Funi Man.
Hey Naki Man
Thanks for making up BS numbers.
What’s new.
What number don’t you agree with?
Laugh Out Loud,
Where did you get the 8% figure from.
Look at MRP’s prospectus
I think from memory it says about 6%
What? Another fucking lie?
The true return on those assets is closer to 20%.
The dividend is expected to be 6 or 7%
your 20% is complete crap
at 8% I was being generous
well, you’re welcome to, oh, actually provide a source for that number (be it 6%, 7%, or 8%).
MRP’s prospectus
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page?
link?
Google it
oh, but you just looked it up, so it would be at your fingertips…
Tony Ryall said ROI was 18.5%
That excludes the strategic benefits of being in full control of the economically critical power generation assets.
https://www.greens.org.nz/press-releases/national-selling-assets-returning-185-average
You’re an embarrassment to the fine citizens of New Plymouth and Taranaki.
Dont worry. Not all Taranakiasn are like “Naki Man”.
Oh no David Cunliffe don’t do it! Most Kiwi’s are still on summer time break time mode. The last thing we want to hear is a state of the nation speech. I for one ‘will not’ be spending a public holiday listening to political promises!
Wtf are you idiots thinking? And another thing ‘no’ I don’t want to go down to Christchurch to learn how to campaign! I bet it involves door knocking in CC. You Wellington LP clowns need to get real!
If you’re referring to the “campaign college” they run, you know they hold those all over the country, right?