Entitleme.com – tax comparisons

Written By: - Date published: 1:49 pm, December 17th, 2007 - 6 comments
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From the site:

“The only two universal truths. Death and Taxes.

Entitleme is an effort to deduce an individuals effective tax rate. The difficulty in calculating an effective tax rate stems from defining what is or is not a tax. My current thinking is, “if you don’t pay it you go to jail” it is a tax. A subsidy or rebate on the other hand is ‘if you can buy a bottle of wine with the proceeds’ its a subsidy. In this way, a Childcare/Housekeeper end of year rebate counts, but Under-5 free doctors visits aren’t.

The initial goal of this website is to calculate whether Australians pay more or less tax than Kiwis. Now that I’ve finally got most of the Inland Revenue and Work & Income calculations going – I can start on the Australian tax system. In the end I want to be able to compare most Western countries with each other.

As time goes by I’ll post interesting comparisons and peculiar anomalies in the New Zealand tax system. I’ll also finalise calculating the Rates burden for each individual city and region.”

Apparently we have Jon to thank for putting this together.

entitleme.gifAs he indicates, it’s a work in progress, but it’s great to finally have some sort of mechanism to help visualise these kinds of calculations.

Our site stats suggest that there’s a fair few people in government reading this – what about putting something similar together or paying Jon to do if for you… 😉

6 comments on “Entitleme.com – tax comparisons ”

  1. Looks like a great site. Definitely a good idea!

  2. Lampie 2

    You got to be joking, the higher you earn there seems to be bugger all difference, try $150k.

    Thought there would be a bigger difference than that or is there some things missing?

  3. deemac 3

    it does say it is a work in progress – and don’t forget everyone pays GST even if their income is low they don’t pay any regular taxes.
    I would be slightly better off in Oz according to the site – certainly not enough to tempt me across the ditch – the main reason seems to be their much lower social welfare spend. But who wants to profit out of the misery of the poor? Apart from the Nats of course.

  4. Dean 4

    Obviously the site is a work in progress, but it shows a ton of promise and as long as it’s kept apolitical and factors in different taxes accordingly then it’s going to be an absolute winner.

    The only area I’d like to see real improvement on sooner rather than later is the “pretty graphs” which so far only seem to show family effective tax rate. At the risk of sounding like a redneck with a sense of entitlement, I’d be interested to see a graph for single people without dependants because this is my main gripe with Labour’s “tax relief” – ie, you get some back if you’ve popped out some sprogs, but to hell with you if you haven’t.

  5. Jon 5

    The Pretty Graphs page is anything but. Setting the Partner Income to zero, and Children/Dependents to zero, makes you single by definition. Of course, that also pretty much guarantees you get nothing back unless you are over 64 and can get NZ Super.

    Nonetheless I will clean up that page tonight and remove the ambiguity.

  6. Natural Party of Government 6

    What I get from entitleme.com is
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    Now that I can agree with, but
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    is simply preposterous and

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