Go well Jacinda

Written By: - Date published: 11:04 am, January 30th, 2022 - 40 comments
Categories: david seymour, doofus of the week, jacinda ardern - Tags:

Worrying news emerged this morning with a report that Jacinda Ardern is a close contact of an Omicron case on an Air New Zealand flight.  The Governor General Dame Cindy Kiro was also on the flight which was from Kerikeri to Wellington and occurred after the pair were filmed giving speeches to be broadcast on Waitangi day.

The flight is considered high risk.  Ardern is reported to be feeling well and has recently had her booster shot.

Along with the rest of the flight Ardern will be in self isolation for ten days from the date of the exposure.  She has since attended a Cabinet meeting and all eyes will be on the results of her next test.

David Seymour has taken the opportunity to be a dick.  From the Herald:

Act Party leader David Seymour said the fact it had taken seven days to identify close contacts showed contact tracing was a “costly charade” that had little effect on spread.

“Once again the Government has been caught taking a nap as it takes seven long days to identify close contacts of Omicron,” Seymour said.

“Jacinda was a close contact of an Omicron case a week before it was made public. She was a close contact on Saturday 22nd and the public was informed on Saturday a week later.

“This experience should be a turning point for Jacinda’s approach to Covid. She might ask herself ‘Why am I isolating when contact tracing is too slow for it to be effective, maybe we should stop forcing otherwise healthy people to isolate if it makes no difference? How many other people am I willing to put through this?”

This is such a fact free idiot attempt at a headline grab.  Seymour obviously does not know firstly when the Air New Zealand cabin crew member became ill or secondly when she was tested or thirdly when the results of the tests came through.  Testing results are coming through quickly right now.  Apart from hiring clairvoyants there is probably nothing else that could have been done.

And over at the sewer the right are showing their normal levels of compassion and humour.  It reads like a bunch of seven year old boys who have the ability to type have been given complete access to the site.

I trust and hope that Ardern remains fine.  She has a big job to keep doing and the country needs her.  Even the haters even though they do not understand this.

40 comments on “Go well Jacinda ”

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  1. Ad 1
    30 January 2022 at 11:47 am

    +100

    And Seymour is a dick.

    • dv 1.1
      30 January 2022 at 12:42 pm

      That's generous AD

      • ghostwhowalksnz 1.1.1
        30 January 2022 at 1:13 pm

        Seymour doesnt even know the close contact isolation rules.

        When say a cabin crew member tests positive say on a Thur they will count back 10 days or so from first symptoms and include flying days as close contacts

        Seymour seems to bullshitting that the cabin crew member knew about infection on the day of flying. And he claims an 'engineering mind' but his other degree a BA in philosophy (of bullshit) is in action here

        • rod 1.1.1.1
          30 January 2022 at 2:38 pm

          Seymour certainly has a degree in bullshit and twerking too. But we all new that a long time ago .

    • Patricia Bremner 1.2
      30 January 2022 at 1:18 pm

      yes He is.

    • Jester 1.3
      31 January 2022 at 2:19 pm

      Perhaps instead of simply slagging off Seymour the messenger, perhaps you should be concerned that for seven days everyone on the flight has been out and about possibly infecting others. I know it is annoying when opposition MP's raise important issues that the government hasn't thought of yet or hasn't got round to fixing. Like ordering RAT tests, instead of businesses getting on and doing it for the govt, and wasn't it the same with PPE gear early on. Stephen Tindall and Sam Morgan had to arrange for them

  2. rusty 2
    30 January 2022 at 12:09 pm

    Cindy Kiro. Not Patsy. That was the previous GG.

    [Thanks one day I will properly proof read my posts! Now corrected – MS]

  3. Adrian 3
    30 January 2022 at 12:22 pm

    Its a hard job and constantly needing to meet people being available so its almost inevitable that senior politicians will eventually contact the virus, I hope she shrugs it off as she deserves too, she and her cabinet have been so instrumental in protecting so many of us it almost seems unfair….whereas Seymour..?

  4. fender 4
    30 January 2022 at 12:57 pm

    The health and wellbeing of our fine PM will be top of mind for many of us. At least she's very sensible and knows how to wear a mask correctly, and being sane means she has been vaccinated appropriately. Best of luck Jacinda.

    Very gracious of the fool from Epsom to wish her wellness /sarc

  5. joe90 5
    30 January 2022 at 1:12 pm

    I reckon a remote parliament to get MPs off commercial flights should be a priority.

    https://twitter.com/Thoughtfulnz/status/1487521418351099904

  6. alwyn 6
    30 January 2022 at 1:59 pm

    You say "Seymour obviously does not know firstly when the Air New Zealand cabin crew member became ill or secondly when she was tested or thirdly when the results of the tests came through".

    It doesn't matter as far as the relevance of his comment goes.

    There is only one thing that is relevant, The PM was in contact with an infected person on Saturday 22nd. She didn't know about it until a week later.

    During that time, if she was affected, she has been in a position to infect a very large number of other people. What is testing her now going to do to prevent the infection, if she is infected, spreading to lots of other people? By now it will, if it is going to happen, have happened.

    Our tracing system simply takes to long to be of any real use. It is taking far to long to find people who may be infected for notifying them to do anything useful in preventing an infection spreading. That is all Seymour is saying and his claim is quite correct. When people felt ill, when they were tested and how long did it take to find out whether the test was positive after it was taken are individually irrelevant. The fact that the total was 7 days makes the exercise useless for preventing spreading being able to take place.

    • Patricia Bremner 6.1
      30 January 2022 at 4:56 pm

      You are forgetting the case where someone got infected and did not show symptoms for 15 days. Further you don't make any useful suggestions Alwyn, nor did you wish her well. So you join that fool from Epsom in the poor info territory. imo.

  7. mary_a 7
    30 January 2022 at 1:59 pm

    I wish Jacinda and Dame Cindy well. I'm sure they will be OK.

    Given his mindless comment for the sake of commenting, Seymour demonstrates his usual ignorance of a situation, before familiarising himself with the facts of the circumstances.

  8. Reality 8
    30 January 2022 at 2:34 pm

    Wishing our PM all the best as she deals with yet another challenge. I wonder if any PM in the past has had to deal with so many extraordinary events in the space of four years and still remain true to herself.

    David Seymour is like an overgrown Smart Alec schoolboy. I find it hard to take him seriously.

    • Peter 8.1
      30 January 2022 at 2:44 pm

      It doesn't matter if Seymour is like an overgrown Smart Alec schoolboy. Nor that "This is such a fact free idiot attempt at a headline grab."

      His name is in lights and the bullshit will be lapped up by those who fawn over everything he says and don't have the wit to reasonably assess what he says.

      • Hanswurst 8.1.1
        30 January 2022 at 11:25 pm

        […] the bullshit will be lapped up by those who fawn over everything he says and don't have the wit to reasonably assess what he says.

        Yeah, but they would have voted for him anyway, so it's no great loss.

  9. EE 9
    30 January 2022 at 3:59 pm

    There a Nat Party caucus retreat in Queenstown this week?

    Will they be flying AirNZ?

    • rod 9.1
      30 January 2022 at 4:39 pm

      No, they will be coming straight from Planet Key.

      • Robert Guyton 9.1.1
        30 January 2022 at 5:02 pm

        Using an airline that Luxon built from scratch.

        • weka 9.1.1.1
          30 January 2022 at 5:16 pm

          with his bootstraps.

          • Puckish Rogue 9.1.1.1.1
            30 January 2022 at 6:35 pm

            Seems appropriate

            • Blade 9.1.1.1.1.1
              31 January 2022 at 2:00 pm

              ''Sir Ranulph Fiennes had no time for Yorkshire folk:

              ''Polar explorer Sir Ranulph Fiennes, 67, says that he doesn't consider Yorkshire folk suitable travelling companions because 'you don't take dour people who are inclined not to forgive or forget.''

              Those sentiments are quite transferable to some of the comments on this thread.

              Unfortunately for Jacinda(?), she is now in conspiracy land. Its a conspiracy if she tests negative… its a conspiracy if she tests positive.

              I have stated before she has been a very lucky PM. The problem with luck is it runs in cycles.

              After what Sir Ian Taylor has spoken of, re dealing with this government over RAT test kits, the last person I would be criticising is Dave Seymour.

              • weka …
                31 January 2022 at 2:09 pm

                Seymour is consistently a dickhead though. It works for him politically but he's not above criticism for being a dickhead.

                This subthread isn't dour, it's humorous 😁

                I like the Fiennes quote though.

                • Blade …
                  31 January 2022 at 2:29 pm

                  ''Seymour is consistently a dickhead though. It works for him politically but he's not above criticism for being a dickhead.''

                  V

                  ''This subthread isn't dour, it's humorous ''

                  I'll have to take your word for that.

              • Puckish Rogue …
                31 January 2022 at 2:10 pm

                I think this is an accurate portrayal of life in Yorkshire (being that it seems to be based on Kes)

  10. mac1 10
    30 January 2022 at 5:26 pm

    What is a senior politician, as is Seymour, in an opposition party doing by referring to the Prime Minister in an obvious politically motivated criticism as "Jacinda"?

    https://www.theeagleonline.com/article/2020/10/opinion-calling-women-in-power-by-their-first-names-widens-the-gender-gap

    I wish her well.

    • alwyn 10.1
      30 January 2022 at 6:21 pm

      I guess that we can expect you to have a go at the author of this post then. Did you read the heading of the piece? Tut tut.

      • mac1 10.1.1
        30 January 2022 at 6:35 pm

        Discussing this with Mrs Mac1, who agrees that it is mysogynist (I have been groomed well), I made the point that context is very important.

        When Mickysavage used 'Jacinda' it was tribal. She is one of us.

        You failed to recognise the pains that I took to point out that Seymour is in opposition. Mickysavage is not in opposition to the PM.

        Context. I can tell Irish jokes. I am tribal. But an Englishman or a Welshman may not. I can be familiar or make jokes at my tribe's expense, within the culture and mores of the group.

        Seymour may criticise the government. That is part of his role. But he may not call her Jacinda in that way, in my opinion.

        And of course, in the opinion of the article I cited. Read it. Tut tut.

        • alwyn 10.1.1.1
          30 January 2022 at 8:30 pm

          Well that is certainly an arguable approach and quite an interesting one. When did you adopt it? After all you did discuss the then Leader of the Opposition by referring to her as "Judith" on occasion. I rather doubt that you were a National Party supporter at the time.

          .https://thestandard.org.nz/wont-someone-think-of-the-business-owners/#comment-1827264

          • mac1 10.1.1.1.1
            30 January 2022 at 8:50 pm

            So, when will you comment on the substance of the comment? Is it OK? BTW, thanks for pointing out my inconsistency. Nice to know we are 1. fallible and 2 discoverable! 🙂

            • alwyn 10.1.1.1.1.1
              30 January 2022 at 9:01 pm

              I am personally of the view, and no, I wasn't always like it, that I will treat our leaders with respect. I don't use terms like Cindy but I don't see using their full first name as being disrespectful.

              So yes, I do use terms like The PM but I don't see anything wrong with saying Jacinda or Christopher or David. I do struggle a bit with the phrase "Right Honourable" before the name Trevor Mallard though.

              • mac1 …
                31 January 2022 at 8:30 am

                What did Winter, the officer in "Brothers in Arms", say to the men who refused to salute a fellow officer. "We salute the rank, not the man."

  11. Anker 11
    30 January 2022 at 10:32 pm

    I do feel for Ms Ardern. A very rough day if the rumour is true that Saturday could have been her wedding day, then finding out she is a close contact and now the bad poll for her.

    I hope NZders can see that the Govt are not to blame for Covid and that the moving beast that it is means they have had to contiually change things. Covid is one thing Labour has done that I am really happy with.

  12. GreenBus 12
    31 January 2022 at 11:07 am

    Maybe a few VIP including our PM (but not pipsqueak seeless) should stay off public transport and be carted around private or air force.

    A great lady with class. Wishing them well.

  13. Patricia Bremner 13
    31 January 2022 at 2:02 pm

    Thankfully so far she has tested negative. Glad to hear the GG Cindy Kiro is fortunate as well.