March 8 2018: the TPPA and our nuclear free moment

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1. Sanctuary 1

   8 March 2018 at 7:20 am

   This is an excellent juncture to ask ourselves the following question: If the TPPA is the 21st centuries nuclear free movement, how come we’ve been so comprehensively and easily swept aside on the issue? A few hundred of the usual suspects meandering down Queen street or a couple of Green MPs haranguing a disinterested and dwindling crowd on the steps of Parliament is nothing like the anti-nuclear (or anti-tour movement – say what you like about boomers, at least in their youth they were prepared to risk getting their heads cracked open by the red squad for a principle, and lawlessly return the favour if a policeman came within range) movement.

   To quote Wikipedia:
   “…In March 1976 over 20 anti nuclear and environmental groups, including Greenpeace and Friends of the Earth, met in Wellington and formed a loose coalition called the Campaign for Non-Nuclear Futures (CNNF). The coalition’s mandate was to oppose the introduction of nuclear power and to promote renewable energy alternatives such as wind, wave, solar and geothermal power. They launched Campaign Half Million. CNNF embarked on a national education exercise producing the largest petition against nuclear power in New Zealand’s history with 333,087 signatures by October 1976. This represented over 10% of the country’s total population of 3 million…”

   Where is the broad coalition opposed to the TPPA?

   Where is the 500,000 signature petition?

   Where is the broad target, the simple mission statement – in 1976, a “nuclear free future” – that can act as an umbrella for everyone from the Lumsden CWI to a Whangarei Marae to unite under?

   The peace flotilla could instantly call on hundreds of private vessels to protest against visiting nuclear powered and/or armed ships. Nothing like it exists today.

   Where are the councils, schools and various national bodies of civic organisations declaring themselves TPPA free zones? In 1984, two thirds of New Zealanders already lived in Nuclear free zones!

   Why was it posible for the anti-nuclear movement, in just fifteen years from the first journey of the yacht Vega to Mururoa and the 1987 anti-nuclear legislation, to achieve not just total victory, but a total victory that has become identified as a core nationalist principle in our self identification?

   The left has lost the TPPA argument. 95% of the population don’t give a shit. We need to ask ourselves some deep questions as to why.
   • Incognito 1.1

     8 March 2018 at 7:43 am

     The left has lost the TPPA argument. 95% of the population don’t give a shit. We need to ask ourselves some deep questions as to why.

     The answer is staring you in the face.
   • Draco T Bastard 1.2

     8 March 2018 at 8:07 am

     The left has lost the TPPA argument. 95% of the population don’t give a shit.

     54% of the population don’t want it but the government is going ahead with it anyway.

     Splits like this have been happening with increasing frequency since the 4th Labour government’s implementation of neo-liberalism.

     When we consider that the government routinely ignores the public is it any wonder that the public aren’t, yet, bothered to do anything?
     • Grantoc 1.2.1

       8 March 2018 at 8:51 pm

       DTB

       if 54% (apparently) of the population don’t want TPPA, how come the current call to action to oppose the signing of the deal has motivated ,what, maybe 0.5% of these souls to protest?

       It suggests to me that whoever ran the survey used pretty faulty methodology or the 54% represents an incredibly soft group who don’t really care either way.

       The evidence suggests that its spurious to claim that 54% are opposed to TTPA.
   • Puckish Rogue 1.3

     8 March 2018 at 8:26 am

     I’d suggest its only a big deal to the perpetually outraged but to most of NZ its at beast a passing thought
   • Carolyn_Nth 1.4

     8 March 2018 at 8:38 am

     I haven’t seen anyone claiming the TPPA is this generation’s nuclear free moment.

     Jacinda Ardern stated that climate change was her generation’s nuclear free moment. Weka’s post looks at the TPPA in the light of that statement about climate change.

     So your comment should be adjusted to that – why aren’t people protesting in numbers about the potential impact of the TPPA on the NZ government’s ability to counter climate change?
     • weka 1.4.1

       8 March 2018 at 9:36 am

       Yes, some people don’t bother reading the posts. I was being entirely sarcastic with the title. I think I will amend the post to make it clear that it was a reference to JA’s statement.
   • weka 1.5

     8 March 2018 at 9:41 am

     “If the TPPA is the 21st centuries nuclear free movement,”

     It’s not. As Carolyn pointed out, Ardern claimed that climate change was her generation’s nuclear free moment. I don’t know if you didn’t bother reading the post, or were unaware of JA’s famous statement, but perhaps you might want to slow down with the rhetoric until you understand what a post is about. I’ve added a bit at the start of the post to make it clearer.

     I was in the peace movement for a while in the 80s, and I am well aware of that history, including Labour’s deep involvement in that, which is what makes JA’s position on climate and the TPPA even worse. Maybe there is another post to write about neoliberalism’s ability to fuck with protest gains.
   • Bill 1.6

     8 March 2018 at 10:37 am

     And while NZ went nuclear free and everyone ran to “get in behind”, so did trade and finance…

     I can’t see Ardern pulling off any comparable “fait accomplis” in any area (let alone across an entire economy) with her meaningless “nuclear free moment” tagging of AGW.

     And if AGW really is NZ’s new “nuclear free moment”, then I’d suggest we’s completely fucked and should be scanning those horizons to see who’s rolling what over them.
   • Obtrectator 1.7

     9 March 2018 at 12:37 pm

     “Where is the broad coalition opposed to the TPPA?”

     “Where is the 500,000 signature petition?”

     Where is the educated and uncowed populace that’s necessary for either?

     Dumbed down by MSM’s refusal to air the issues properly, and mostly preoccupied with just trying to survive in our brutal devil-take-the-hindmost socio-economic environment.
2. eco maori 2

   8 March 2018 at 7:26 am

   The government is treating te tangata like we have know voice choice intelligence like they know better this is winston peters option he backs this farcial contract that signs our sovereignty away hes not to bright either just crafty .
   If bill engish did not throw winston under the bus we would still have a national ruining OUR country with those old ideological dum___views . winston could stop this tpp11 .
   He can not see the big picture that big business models is written into there companies philosoph it is there goal to maximize profits at all cost be it human rights the environment every thing else is not considered its all about the proffers.
   Ana to kai ka kite ano
3. cleangreen 3

   8 March 2018 at 8:01 am

   The global corporations may also stop NZ Government taking action to curtail carbon emissions as well.

   They will claim that reducing use of carbon emitters as harming their business’s and therefor stop PM Jacinda Arderrn’s plan to tackle her “generations” nuclear moment”” by following the lead of UK and EU by banning diesel transport.

   I wrote a response to the article in TDB today, it is worth a read, so as this is part of Jacinda’s issues that she will under TPP11 be prevented from following along UK and EU olan to cut climate change emissions of transport so Jacinda Ardern, today if you plan to sign this toxic anti climate change agreement called TPP11 anti-climate change” agreement you will stop your own last chance to tackle climate change now.

   “Let’ us not do this”

   https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2018/03/08/a-zero-carbon-act-for-new-zealand-environmental-defence-society/

   EDS – We strongly agree with that position of inclusion, as we need everyone to agree to the sharp change in slashing carbon emissions now otherwise inside five years we will be to late to stop the destructive effects of climate change “meltdown” where weather events severely disrupt our food supplies and then people will die from hunger.

   Transport emissions account for 40% of all carbon emissions produced today.

   Truck freight must be removed from freight and rail and shipping must both now become the “prime mover of all freight as trucks are 10 times more carbon emitters than any other freight system. Diesel must be slashed severely because ‘UK and EU are banning all diesel vehicles now as we speak so why aren’t we???

   https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/apr/04/diesel-vehicles-will-disappear-sooner-than-expected-says-eu-industry-chief

   Jacinda it was your first call to slash carbon emissions as you claimed “climate changer is the “nuclear moment of our generation”.

   “lets do this”
4. WILD KATIPO 4

   8 March 2018 at 9:13 am

   Yes , its not a good look for the Labour led coalition at all.

   The neo liberal presence is still alive and kicking in the Labour caucus , – so too is giving credence to those lobbyists who are pushing for the go – ahead it seems. Never let it be forgotten that Labour was the first party to implement neo liberalism in NZ via Roger Douglas. It was one of the main reasons why people cancelled their membership in droves, and why Labour spent many years preaching the limp wet noodle of Identity Politics instead of where it should have been : firmly rooted in its core principles and issues of class and economic equity.

   They have in effect , – again , – made themselves almost indiscernible from the odious National party which we all just spent 9 years campaigning against.
5. adam 5

   8 March 2018 at 9:43 am

   I see this as an opportunity.

   TPPA, don’t mean jack if people shut down the petrol stations.

   TPPA, don’t mean jack if people stop consuming.

   Come on folks the real issue here, is our government willing to sell us out to corporations?

   Answer – Yes they are.

   So what are you going to do about it in a non-violent productive way? Because as always, and at the end of the day, the enemy is the old enemy of working people – capitalism.
   • weka 5.1

     8 March 2018 at 9:50 am

     Yes, I see the TPPA as stepping stone into the larger work needing to be done.

     any chance we could hash this out? Because I agree that capitalism is a huge issues, but it’s not the only way into solving this mess. And we can’t afford to wait until the anti-capitalism movement is big enough to make a difference. I am interested in the meeting point between anti-capitalism and other movements though, and where solidarity and intersectionality might take us.
     • adam 5.1.1

       8 March 2018 at 6:09 pm

       Who said wait, I’m arguing for action now.

       Who cares what it is, I’m just framing it as anti-capitalist becasue we live under capitalism as an economic and Liberalism as the ideological underpinning. Neither can be separated from each other, as the failed social democratic experiment has shown.

       That said, I don’t really care if you are on the anti-capitalist boat. I don’t really care what buzz you are on. As long doing somthing to fix the mess we are walking into.
6. savenz 6

   8 March 2018 at 9:59 am

   Agree 100% with everything you say Weka!
   • cleangreen 6.1

     9 March 2018 at 4:26 pm

     Weka;

     Add us in there to weka – capitalism has now well and truly been corrupted by elitists.

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