Open mike 02/10/2010

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1. The Chairman 1

   2 October 2010 at 10:02 am

   Warning of possible asset sales, service cuts, rate rises and increased council debt in order to shoulder the spiralling cost of leaky building liabilities.

   Wellington ratepayers face leaky building liabilities of nearly $90m ($70 million from new claims plus $18 million the Council has already provided).

   Council has yet to determine how to pay for this.

   Wellington’s Deputy Mayor, Ian McKinnon, said: “There will be no easy choices for the next Mayor and council – they will have to make some tough decisions over whether the costs are met through, for example, rates rises, borrowings – cuts in services or even the sale of council assets.”

   Surely the most cost effective measure would be to implement a one-off rates increase?

   The matter will be considered further by the new Council in the New Year as part of the 2011/12 Annual Plan and the 2012/22 long-term council community plan.

   http://wellington.scoop.co.nz/?p=28136
2. felix 2

   2 October 2010 at 10:24 am

   Saw “Exit Through The Gift Shop” last night. If you haven’t yet, do it. You won’t be disappointed.

   Righties, don’t bother. It’s all about criminals and you’ll just want to stab them.
3. ianmac 3

   2 October 2010 at 10:55 am

   Richard Wolff has an interesting take on the reasons that the population of Europe have rebelled against austerity including the cutting of State Services. (NZ?) And in the USA?
   http://podcast.radionz.co.nz/sat/sat-20101002-0810-Richard_Wolff_unions_in_Europe-048.mp3
4. burt 4

   2 October 2010 at 10:55 am

   Last night I was doing a few checks on an old system I wrote back in the early 90’s that one of my clients is still using. I was checking that their GST rate change would all work OK and having been through one change already from 10% to 12.5%. I couldn’t help thinking how funny it was that when income tax decreased and GST went up under Labour it was good but when it happened under National it was bad. I’m wondering if I need to make changes to allow for variable GST rates if Labour gets back into power – what do you think?

   Oh and it was a blast using OS 9 on an old mac again for the first time in years.
   • felix 4.1

     2 October 2010 at 11:02 am

     Well you may have changed your mind about it burt, but plenty of us haven’t.
   • prism 4.2

     2 October 2010 at 11:09 am

     You’ve got a point burt – a number of Labour govt moves were very right wing weren’t they! There is now an effort to get a pragmatic but visionary, smart caring Labour back but there are still a few flies around that sat on young Roger Douglas’s wall. But we keep on hoping and visualising the sort of policies we would like even if Labour (as yet) can’t see their way clear to sticking to their task and being true to their roots.
   • jacinda 4.3

     2 October 2010 at 11:09 am

     Thats because everyone around here hates the players but not the game. Anything National does is painted bad on this site, usually with a slew of poorly thought out FUD, strawman or incoherent rambling arguments behind them.
     • Colonial Viper 4.3.1

       2 October 2010 at 11:31 am

       No, thats wrong, plenty of people here hate the game that we all know the Right love so well: unbridled, enslaving capitalism.
     • prism 4.3.2

       2 October 2010 at 11:32 am

       Gives you something to do though doesn’t it jacinda – putting everybody right.
   • Draco T Bastard 4.4

     2 October 2010 at 11:25 am

     I couldn’t help thinking how funny it was that when income tax decreased and GST went up under Labour it was good…

     But they weren’t burt. There were plenty of protests about those changes rammed through by the 4th Labour government. It was, after all, why they got kicked out in 1990.

     So, this would just be another of your attempts to re-write history.
5. comedy 5

   2 October 2010 at 11:01 am

   OS9 good MS Windows bad !
   • felix 5.1

     2 October 2010 at 11:03 am

     lol
     • felix 5.1.1

       2 October 2010 at 4:02 pm

       I love it when people talk about their cars too.
   • ianmac 5.2

     2 October 2010 at 11:28 am

     OS9 good. Leopard OS10.6 better. MS Windows bad!
     • Mac1 5.2.1

       2 October 2010 at 3:11 pm

       Macs good. Non-Macs bad.
       • Draco T Bastard 5.2.1.1

         2 October 2010 at 3:31 pm

         They’re the same computer nowadays. Only the software is different.

         And I still say that it’s a pity that the Amiga didn’t become the base for the computer revolution. Protected by patent and copyright laws the best machine at the time died while the worst one (the Intel based IBM PC) lived. We could have missed out on ten+ years of crappy computers and completely bypassed MS Windows.
         • KJT 5.2.1.1.1

           2 October 2010 at 3:53 pm

           Mac’s. overpriced underspecified computers for fashion victims.

           Windows 7. Best yet.
           • Draco T Bastard 5.2.1.1.1.1

             2 October 2010 at 4:42 pm

             I didn’t mention Macs did I?
             • Mac1 …

               2 October 2010 at 4:56 pm

               I did, to ianmac and somebody assumed I was talking about computers. 😉

               “Macs good, non-Macs bad.”

               Mac1
               • Draco T Bastard …

                 2 October 2010 at 5:44 pm

                 😛
         • gingercrush 5.2.1.1.2

           2 October 2010 at 4:09 pm

           Yeah and put up with an IBM OS system. I think we got off very lightly.
           • Draco T Bastard 5.2.1.1.2.1

             2 October 2010 at 4:41 pm

             You never used an Amiga did you? Amiga OS was doing stuff in 1985 that MS only got around to doing in 1995. Silly little things like true multi-tasking in a 32 bit environment (Well, technically, it was a 16/32 bit environment).

             I can assure you – we didn’t get off lightly, we lost out very badly.
             • gingercrush …

               2 October 2010 at 11:24 pm

               Actually I have used Amiga systems before. If there was no Microsoft we would have an IBM OS. Windows itself comes from an IBM OS. Amiga may still have existed but I have no doubt without windows IBM would have been the dominated Operating System and that would be far more detrimental than a Microsoft dominated OS.
               • Draco T Bastard …

                 2 October 2010 at 11:41 pm

                 My whole point was that we would have been better off if the Amiga had been the PC that had been used to start the 1980s computer revolution rather than the IBM PC because it was a better system with a better OS and the reason why we didn’t was because it was protected under copyright and patent laws. Under that scenario we wouldn’t have ended up with IBM OS. In fact we wouldn’t presently having this conversation using an IBM PC compatible at all.
6. felix 6

   2 October 2010 at 2:27 pm

   Question on Back Benches the other night:
   “What was Peter Jackson’s first feature film?”

   Answer according to both Kerry Prendergast and Celia Wade-Brown after blathering on for half an hour about their dedication to Wellington as a creative and cultural capital:
   “Frighteners”.

   Says it all.
   • Draco T Bastard 6.1

     2 October 2010 at 3:33 pm

     Obviously their Googlefu wasn’t up to it.

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