Open mike 21/07/2019

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  1. Andre 1

    Why settle for just Crimea? Looks like Pootee might be setting the stage for a grab at the rest of Ukraine.

    https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/putin-russians-ukrainians-are-one-people/ar-AAEC5Q8?li=BBqdg4K&ocid=mailsignout

    • Morrissey 1.1

      Yes, you're quite the Russian scholar. However, I note that your carefully considered theory about those evil masterminds controlling the puppet Trump has yet to be backed up with evidence.

      Продолжайте в том же духе, мой друг!

    • johnm 1.2

      President Putin only speaks the truth. The Ukraine was part of the USSR. It's eastern half are Russian speaking. When the Ukraine became independent in 1991 Russia had an historical agreement to use the port of the Crimea. Western Ukraine is nearer to Berlin than Madrid. During WW11 there was a strong fascist group who welcomed the German invaders. The last legitimate government was pro Russian but was toppled by a CIA funded insurrection. If Russia had wanted to it could have taken over the Ukraine in 24 hours. MH17 was shot down by Ukraine fascist forces not the Russians or the independent Russian east of the Country. The Crimea voted democratically to become part of Russia and is now so.

      • joe90 1.2.1

        The Ukraine was part of the USSR.

        Ukraine was invaded by the Soviets.

        TIFIFY

        • In Vino 1.2.1.1

          Liberated from German Nazi occupation by the Soviets. Re- FIFY.

          • joe90 1.2.1.1.1

            Reoccupied by the same totalitarian Stalinist regime responsible for the genocidal, man-made famines that cost between 4 and 8 million ethnic Ukrainians their lives.

            • In Vino 1.2.1.1.1.1

              True, but many Ukrainians who had at first welcomed the Nazis, after getting to know them, did actually appreciate being 'liberated'. The lesser of two evils, believe it or not. But rabid anti-communist, pro-Western propaganda always pushes the meme that Stalin was 'worse than Hitler'. To my mind he was equally evil, but in different ways. The Ukraine was an unlucky country, a bit like Poland, which itself was never the ideal democracy for which Britain professed to go to war.. We are lucky to have been born here rather than there, if you are as old as I am..

      • Psycho Milt 1.2.2

        President Putin only speaks the truth.

        I was pretty sure the rest of your comment wouldn't be able to top that for obvious wrongness, but it was a surprisingly close-run thing.

      • Stuart Munro. 1.2.3

        Have you any evidence of this "CIA funded insurrection"? Comparatively few former Soviet satellites want to return to being Russian clients – something to do with quality of governance.

        Austria too had "a strong fascist group who welcomed the German invaders", will you be cheering Putin if and when he decides to annex them, or are they allowed to exercise their democratic franchise without his permission?

        • higherstandard 1.2.3.1

          It's young Ed…….I humbly suggest DNFTT as I did with Moz upthread.

          [Prove that johnm is a sockpoppet of Ed and address the topic instead of guessing the identity of a commenter and playing the DNFTT game; I have warned so many times about leaving sockpoppets to the moderators but it seems to fall on deaf ears. If not, I offer you a three-week ban – Incognito]

          • Stuart Munro. 1.2.3.1.1

            If it's Ed he's learned to be a bit less over the top, which is all he needed to do.

          • Morrissey 1.2.3.1.2

            You fed me, and you fed me well, me ol' cobber!

            • Gabby 1.2.3.1.2.1

              Many many countries yearn for warm embrace of Mother Russia comrade morpisski. Is only matter of time.

              • Morrissey

                I have no problem with people being anti-Russian, Gabby—I'm no fan of Putin and his cronies, either. What I am concerned about is this nonsense about Russians—and those dastardly masterminds the North Koreans as well!— controlling Trump as some sort of Manchurian Candidate. Any outlet that repeats these lies, not just once or twice, but daily, weekly, monthly, every single day since Trump got his disgusting carcass into 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue can not taken as a serious or credible news organization.

          • Incognito 1.2.3.1.3

            See my Moderation note @ 4:30 PM.

          • higherstandard 1.2.3.1.4

            اذهب يمارس الجنس مع نفسك

            [Thank you for your most obliging response that avoided any doubt or confusion. Your efforts to lift The Standard to a higher standard are much appreciated and in return, I give the promised three-week ban plus another three for using a language that is not one of the three official languages of Aotearoa-New Zealand – Incognito]

            [I checked your history here and it was only early this year that you were given amnesty from a permanent ban. You also seem to have missed out on a three-month ban by Lynn, which somewhat ironically was about bad language: https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-21-06-2019/#comment-1630221, but I will now correct that oversight – Incognito]

  2. Andre 2

    An interesting look at electric vehicle production scale-up around the world.

    https://cleantechnica.com/2019/07/19/european-electric-car-market-news-triple-the-number-of-models-more-battery-factories/

    Down the bottom there's a graphic about the motivations to change to electric in different parts of the world. Very little of it is about greenhouse gases and climate change, but air pollution is a big factor along with regulatory compliance. China's economic interest is shown by two of their big motivations being developing an electric vehicle export industry and reducing dependence on oil imports.

    • Graeme 2.1

      There was one, or maybe two, options missing off that list of motivations,

      • Because electric gives a better vehicle
      • Because electric is cheaper to run and maintain

      The focus on mandated change is a bit ICE centric, the switch will happen because electrics are better vehicles on so many practical grounds.

      Just like you don't see as many extension leads on building sites now, so much is battery tools now.

      • Andre 2.1.1

        Yeah, that better driveability is a big one. Pretty soon people that enjoy driving will be going electric because it's so much better. It'll only be genuine petrolheads that live their lives with an extended middle finger left on the dino-juice.

        When it comes to cars, I have zero shame about what I'm seen in and I'm a reasonable bush mechanic, so my usual habit is to buy an oldish car and drive it into the ground. Flash cars just don't do it for me anymore, I scratched that itch once long ago and it's never come back. But jeez I'm getting tempted by an i3.

        That cost of ownership will also be a big one. In most US markets, the 5 year cost of ownership for a Tesla Model3 is probably already below cars like Corollas, Camrys Accords etc. Won't be long before the cost of batteries drops enough that the initial purchase price of electric is lower than dino-mobiles.

        • Pat 2.1.1.1

          Quick search shows EVs in US are exempt from VED (currently)…the lifetime cost comparison calculation is impacted by that fact

          • Andre 2.1.1.1.1

            A bit like here, a mix of federal funding, state and local taxes. There is a federal fuel tax, but it's much lower than here and applies equally to diesel and petrol. The federal fuel tax doesn't come anywhere close to covering the cost of national highways (unlike here), the federal component of funding gets a hefty top-up from other taxes.

            There's no RUCs on light vehicles anywhere, but I'm fairly sure there's some kind of system like RUCs for heavy vehicles that varies at state levels. You used to see trucks with many different state number plates (don't remember if that was still the case last time back five years ago).

            • bwaghorn 2.1.1.1.1.1

              The government needs to signal when rucs will be put on evs. It will have to happen eventually so why not decide now .

              • Pat

                they have i believe…2021 I think but that may change depending on uptake…I think there is a fleet percentage tipping point

            • Pat 2.1.1.1.1.2

              yes apologies …after asking the question a quick search revealed the answer….hence the change of comment.

              Not that it changes many of the advantages of EVs but it should be remembered that current running cost calculations will not continue to apply

              • alwyn

                There was an interesting article on the subject of EV costs on page F3 of yesterdays DomPost.

                I can't find a link to it online at the moment unfortunately.

                What he suggests is that, if you allow for RUC at the existing rate, and can't get by with charging at home it will cost more to run a Leaf than a Corolla. Even if you can get by with the limited recharge potential and don't pay any RUC it will take you 150,000 km to recover the extra cost. If you include RUC you will have to drive the EV for 500,000 km to save the extra capital cost to drive the thing.

                There are other reasons besides saving money for buying an EV. It is the saving in fuel that most people I have talked to seem to rave about though. If RUCs come in, as surely they must there certainly won't be any fuel savings there to justify people paying for an EV though, will there?

                Just why do EVs cost as much as they do. Having looked at the motor in a Leaf, and compared it to the beast under the bonnet in a friends new Honda Civic Type R, which costs the same amount, it can't be the motor that costs money. What do the battery packs really cost?

                • Andre

                  Last article I saw on battery pack costs were that Tesla expected to go under USD100/kWhr at the cell level later this year, then under USD100/kWhr at the pack level next year. Tesla seem to be widely reputed to be way lower in battery costs than anyone else, even the Chinese.

                  When EVs become widespread, the whole RUC/excise tax heavy/light vehicle cost split really will need to be looked at. There's some petrol cars already on the market where the petrol cost/km is fuckall more than RUCs for light vehicles.

                • Pat

                  that would appear roughly correct…assuming a newish 1500cc corolla averaging their claimed 4.5l/100k, however as Andre has noted once the EV fleet increases the whole system of RUC (and fuel taxes for that matter) will have to be reviewed…or I guess we could toll roads,or pay 100% from general taxation….whatever way its cut there will be noise.

      • Sacha 2.1.2

        you don't see as many extension leads on building sites now, so much is battery tools

        Also driven by the change in health & safety standards to require electrical cord testing and tagging every few months. Less cost and interruption if you only use batteries.

        • Graeme 2.1.2.1

          The H&S aspect isn't all that different to the emissions issue with vehicles, a move to a better environment, I was pretty much over getting lit up regularly, and there’s also that battery tools are as effective, and in a lot of cases more effective, than mains powered gear

    • Bearded Git 2.2

      Interesting, especially the fact that China is going to dominate world EV battery production by 2023 with Europe and the USA far behind.

  3. Ad 3

    Angela Merkel celebrates Klaus von Stauffenberg's plot to kill Hitler in 1944

    She called him and his conspirators "true patriots".

    I've never seen a leader of a country celebrating an attempt to kill her predecessor. Theresa May hasn't memorialized Cromwell, nor Macron celebrated Sieyes.

    https://www.dw.com/en/germany-merkel-commemorates-hitler-assassination-plot-75-years-after-operation-valkyrie/a-49660510

    Angela Merkel has class.

    • Anne 3.1

      She's going to be sorely missed after 2020.

    • CHCoff 3.2

      The better the democratic structure/environment, the less it has to be pointing out the blindingly obvious to the blind in the hope of improvement, rather than just moving on to the better know how.

  4. Lprent: the site feed is featuring posts from a blog called "An Average Kiwi," which read like the blog should actually be called "An Average Wingnut." Just mentioning it as it doesn't seem like the kind of stuff we'd usually see in the feed.

    • Robert Guyton 4.1

      Looked at the three posts earlier and thought, "Rubbish!"

    • Incognito 4.2

      Yes, I saw those last night shortly after they appeared and left a message for Lynn at the back-end. Could have been written by a regular here who calls themselves a “skeptic of climate alarmism”. Anti-CC and anti-CE messages seem be ramping up and although I’m not a conspiracist it does suggest some kind of coordination behind it.

      • Andre 4.2.1

        ISTR "An average kiwi" has been a sidebar regular for a long time. But a look at their site looks like all the old stuff has been deleted since they've gone on this denial binge.

        While it's rare, it's not wholely unheard of for someone to be mostly rational, but hold some waaaaayyyyy out there views on some topics. Ken at Open Parachute being an example from the sidebar.

        • Incognito 4.2.1.1

          Ta, good to know that the ‘system’ hasn’t been hijacked then.

          • Andre 4.2.1.1.1

            "An average kiwi" may have been hijacked or suffered a substantial blow to the head. But I don't think it's a sign of a problem at The Standard.

        • Psycho Milt 4.2.1.2

          Oh, right – I saw there were only a few posts on there and figured it was a new arrival on the feed.

  5. Observer Tokoroa 5

    About Bernard Hickey

    I have no doubt that the Accountant above is talented and knowledgeable. But he delivers his words very fast.

    So that persons of my motor speed – maximising at about an illegal 170 Kph on state highway 1, deliberately I slow the car down. While Bernard heads toward supercallerfragerllisticoutterstreaks. He is flying in the Nether Nether Land.

    I think he feels that Grant Robertson is not Spending enough money. His words scrabbled.

    But Crikey, The Bloody Great Fonterra Building at Lichfield – running on Coal to purify Milk of all things – is in nasty trouble …

    Fletchers Mighty Constructions have slunk back to sucking peppermint lollies – and have cancelled any major buildings. I think they might being doing Letter boxes. But there is not much call for those.

    Sir John Key is managing Five Big Businesses and unknown numbers of Blonds.

    Cadburys have moved off into darkness.

    Northland – has decided to stop all work

    The Teachers are on the streets begging for $300 a day for 6hrs a day work. For Auckland has very special cars, very special Streets, very special houses, very special water, very special toilets, very special toilet paper, very special alcohol, very special bottoms and so forth.

    Their children are on drugs – keeping out of mischief – apparently.

    The Farmers are suiciding. But they always have. They blame it on the Cities.

    Grant Robertson is holding some Money for a rainy day. He is not a Hickey Lotto Bloke.

    Onya Grant ! You are sane ! Thank Heavens.

  6. johnm 6

    In this episode of teleSUR's Days of Revolt, Chris Hedges interviews economist Michael Hudson on the history of classical economics and explores Marx’s interpretation of capitalism as exploitation

    • johnm 6.1

      In this episode of Days of Revolt, Chris Hedges continues his discussion with UMKC economics professor Michael Hudson on his new book Killing the Host: How Financial Parasites and Debt Bondage Destroy the Global Economy. Hedges and Hudson expose the liberal class’ allegiance to the predatory creditors on Wall Street and their indifference to real economic justice.

  7. Ad 7

    Alexandria Ocazio-Cortez wants a commission into the separation of families in the UNited States, through their border services:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/20/ocasio-cortez-911-style-commission-migrant-family-separations

    We should invite her over here to check the results of the three inquiries we've got going into Oranga Tamariki.

  8. Incognito 8

    We seem to have had a little glitch.

  9. The Chairman 10

    Ardern says the Government has made some moves in their direction – the families package, for instance.

    "But I accept there are people who feel those policies may not have touched them in the same way. We know there's that constant pressure on them. It's something as a Government that we're giving continual thought to."

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/114369999/jacinda-ardern-has-some-unfinished-business

    In other words, they have no ideas as yet. But I see Jacinda is using the old families package line again, although it is wearing rather thin considering the increase in hardship.

    • Robert Guyton 10.1

      "In other words, they have no ideas as yet"

      "It's something as a Government that we're giving continual thought to."

      Continual, Chairman: "continuing indefinitely in time without interruption"

      That's clearly what's required and what Ms Ardern said the Government was doing, yet your re-wording tells a different, your (rhymes with Eeyore), story. Pure dark-cloud speculation on your part. As usual.

      • The Chairman 10.1.1

        If they had an idea of what they were going to do they wouldn't still be thinking about it (ie giving it continual thought) they would be announcing it, Robert.

        • Robert Guyton 10.1.1.1

          So you propose, seemingly unable to factor-in some quite simple factors such as; incomplete data, test results pending, advice yet to be received, etc. It's little wonder people here tease you for being one of the Soggy Bottom boys, Chair!

          • The Chairman 10.1.1.1.1

            Not at all. But again, if they had done all that ground work they'd be announcing their plan, not still be thinking about it.

            Clearly, you fail to see the void batting away a CGT has created. Now they are struggling to fill it.

            They will be hard pressed to replace such a revenue generator such as that was going to be.

  10. alwyn 11

    I see that Ron Mark is proposing that our leader really shouldn't be using the old Air Force 757s and should charter planes. Out of curiosity I had a look at what it would cost to charter Peter Jackson's private jet, a Gulfstream.
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12251315

    There was an estimate that it would cost just over $90,000 to take 10 people on a 2 day trip from Wellington to Fiji. That is about the same distance and time of Ardern's trip from Auckland to Mebourne.

    Why can't she simply travel, in Business Class to be sure, instead of having to pretend that we need our own pretend version of an Air Force 1? If the PM is going somewhere where there are only very limited commercial flight taking an Air Force jet. Auckland to Melbourne is just a joke. There are any number of flights available and we commoners don't really smell that bad that she can't travel in the same plane surely?

    • Morrissey 11.1

      Peter Jackson should provide at least a couple of jets gratis to the government, considering a large part of his wealth springs from that shabby blackmail deal that his Warner Bros. controllers foisted on us.

    • McFlock 11.2

      1: how many people travel with the PM on these trips?

      2: Mark seemed to be proposing this because the jets might not be fit for purpose and tend to break down, rather than it not being an appropriate use.

      • alwyn 11.2.1

        I'm quite sure that Ron Mark thinks it is appropriate to use the Air Force as private transport for pollies.

        After all his Boss, Tsar Winston has also got into the habit. How long do you think Ron would survive if he said it was a total waste of money? Doesn't it make it sensible or a good way of spending the taxpayers money though, does it?

        • Incognito 11.2.1.1

          Who is the boss of Hon Ron Mark, Minister of Defence?

          • alwyn 11.2.1.1.1

            The Boss if the Hon Ron Mark is, as I am sure you are very well aware, The Right Hon Winston Peters.

            Do you realise that Winston Peters, or Tsar Peters as those familiar with him say, is the only person in the current New Zealand Parliament who is a member of the Privy Council? That is the group of advisors to the person who is our Head of State. He is the only one.

            He may, in theory, be responsible to Ms Ardern but in practice he, and the other Ministers in the New Zealand First Caucus, are beholden only to Winston.

            Seriously, can you really imagine Jacinda sacking him without Winston's say-so? If you do I would have to say that you are dreaming.

            • Incognito 11.2.1.1.1.1

              Are you familiar with Winston Peters?

              • alwyn

                Hmm. When I check the dictionary meaning of the word I would have to say that I did not choose my word wisely.

                The dictionary offers, as an adjective

                "in close friendship; intimate.

                synonyms:close, intimate, dear, near, confidential, bosom"

                and as a noun

                "a close friend or associate."

                So no, I would have to say I am not. I have had quite a lot of dealings with him in the past but I certainly wasn't a close friend.

                I'm not quite sure what the right word would be but it isn't "familiar" when I consider the definition. I certainly wasn't one of his mates at after working hours visits to the Green Parrot.

                • Incognito

                  No problem, Alwyn, but in that case you may want to stop referring to the Right Hon Winston Peters as “Tsar Peters”? Just asking.

                  • alwyn

                    I see. I am, although not an Initiate of the Peters cult, using some of the things reserved for those of you who are? That nickname is reserved for his closest friends, drinking buddies and for members of his racing partnerships I take it.

                    Or is it like the Russian use of diminutives for names, where the name used by strangers differs from the one used by very close friends of very close relatives?

                    Or am I releasing the secrets of the Lodge. Is use of the nickname like someone learning and using the secret handshakes used, at least apocryphally by Masons. Whatever the cause does it upset you that I am using nicknames that I am not supposed to?

                    Or is it perhaps something as simple as people who get upset by references to the Prime Minister as Jacinda, rather than The Right Honourable Jacinda Ardern MP?

                    • Incognito

                      Alwyn, despite your attempts to deflect, the fact is that only you use this term and I, for one, would be quite pleased if you stopped it. IMO, it is on par with the sloppy use of the (denigrating) terms “woke” or “simple Simon”, for example. Just saying.

                    • alwyn

                      OK Just for you I'll do it.

                      Out of curiosity what do you think of phrases like "ShonKey" and "Soiman".

                    • Incognito []

                      Much appreciated and funny that you need to ask.

                    • Muttonbird

                      Accurate.

                      Shonkey adj. – not entirely trustworthy, of shady character, ill reputed.

                      Soimon It's what he calls himself – who are we to argue?

                    • alwyn

                      You weren't actually included in this conversation.

                      Can I refer to you with a variation on your name? It seems appropriate and accurate, given the dictionary definition, to refer to you as "muttonhead".

                      From https://www.dictionary.com/browse/muttonhead

                      "noun Informal.

                      a slow-witted, foolish, or stupid person; dolt."

                    • Incognito []

                      But Alwyn, this is Open Mike where everybody is free to join in. Of course, Muttonbird could have asked your permission to join in but instead gave their unsolicited opinion. I think we should update the policy to make it a bannable offence to respond to a comment or post for that matter without explicit permission or personalised invitation. What are people thinking? How rude!

                    • Sam

                      Pfft. The 757s will be replaced some time late 2020z. Probably by secondhand AirNZ planes. Wtf are you guys on about?

        • McFlock 11.2.1.2

          The 757s aren't just for ferrying vips around. We use them for disaster response, as well. Not often, but we need them occasionally. Especially the sorts of jobs where the charterer might go "you want to take our plane where? OK, but the danger money is $$$".

          So then the question is "if we have the pilots and the plane anyway, surely the 'cost' is largely an internal accounting issue".

    • Sam 11.3

      economically it only makes sense to charter if you earn over $60m per year. So if you can load up a plane with $60m in salaries then go for it. Otherwise it would make more sense to travel business class. If you can’t Justify air travel then your using the same amount of carbon on an one way to Melbourne than the average person accumulates in a year which is a waste.

      Flying a charter works out to be about 3hrs of saved time by not having to go through customs, baggage handling, stop overs ect. Y'know at $6kp/h or $60mp/a this is where it starts to make sense to charter. So first you need the 60m salary and have traveled more than 200hrs a year to justify a buy a Global 7500 business jet with 14hr flight times and upto 18 passengers or just lease.

    • Exkiwiforces 11.4

      I'm surprise they haven't charted an AirNZ Airbus for such Flt's across the ditch? Be a lot cheaper than a B757 Flt and some free PR for AirNZ or take a leaf out of the Queen/ Royals who fly's in the odd BA aircraft.

      • alwyn 11.4.1

        If you charter a plane you have to pay with it in a way that shows up in the Government accounts. Then people can see how much they are wasting just to give them a boost to their ego. That way they can pretend they are like the Donald.

        Using one of the Air Force planes is covered up as being training and they would have done the flight anyway in order to keep the flight crew current on their flying time. Thus they pretend it is free.

        Of course if you really believe that line of b*s I have a bridge between Manhattan and Brooklyn that I am sure you will be interested in buying.

    • Gabby 11.5

      How did Sirponyboy travel wally?

  11. The Chairman 12

    The minister will be taking a paper to Cabinet at the end of the year that will lay out next steps in the "overhaul".

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/07/greens-call-out-labour-over-failure-to-increase-benefits.html

    Lets hope they get it right this time around, ensuring they put in place a vast pay increase in core benefit rates. Especially for those deemed to be in long-term need, such as the ill and disabled.

    • Drowsy M. Kram 12.1

      Thanks for that – good news and good move by the Green party, wouldn't you agree?

      • The Chairman 12.1.1

        A long awaited move by the Greens and the Government.

        AAAP got the ball rolling, the media has run with it, so it was about time the Greens got in there, even the opposition had a go.

        Everyone just needs to keep the pressure on.

        • Drowsy M. Kram 12.1.1.1

          Yes, it was "a long awaited move", "about time", etc., but that's not what I asked.

          Do you, The Chairman, agree that this move by the Green party to apply pressure on the Government (as per your linked news item) is a good move?

          • The Chairman 12.1.1.1.1

            Of course. It was a good, long awaited move.

            • Drowsy M. Kram 12.1.1.1.1.1

              A good move by the Green party – great. smiley

              • The Chairman

                Interesting there is no mention of it on their news feed on their website.

                A sign of how important an issue it is to them?

                • Robert Guyton

                  "The Newshub-Reid Research poll had the worst outlook for National, slipping to a 14-year-low of 37.4 percent – well behind Labour, who leapt to 50.8."

                  Crikey, Chair! Time to celebrate!! Pin on your Labour Party rosettes and let's party!

                  • The Chairman

                    For a moment there I thought that may have been a new poll perhaps indicating a polling trend.

                    That was one of two polls at the time with wildly differing results.

                    Old news, Robert.

                    Trying to distract from what's absent in the Greens news feed?

                    • Robert Guyton

                      Chair, this "wot wosn't in the Green feed" is the weakest ploy from you yet, and there have been a number that have been dishwater-feeble. I'll not even bother, but regarding the stale poll, Labour, 50.8!!

                      News like that never gets old! 3 chairs for Labour!!

                    • Drowsy M. Kram

                      Three Chairs for Labour” – love it. Here are three quotes that will no doubt bring a tear to The Chair's one eye.

                      "we just want them to go, like Maureen Pugh is ***king useless" – Simon (I forget his surname, but he's the current leader of the opposition National party)

                      "It dawned on me, ‘I know this script, I helped write this script.’ At that point, I felt bad for what I did to Todd. But that’s the modus operandi of the National party – when people become a liability you push them out the door." – Jami-lee Ross, former National party senior whip (Oct 2018)

                      "I felt that the National party deployed everything they possibly could to stop me and they turned dirty and nasty. They were doing all they knew how to with the skill set that they had." – Jami-lee Ross (Feb 2019)

                      Dirty Politics: How attack politics is poisoning New Zealand’s political environment

                  • alwyn

                    It's good to see that you, even based in the deep South, seem to be able to keep so up to date on the news.

                    You did notice, I hope, that because of the prevailing Southerlies and therefore the very cold weather we have been having over the last couple of months the story you link to was from about six weeks ago? Carrier pigeons really don't like having to hasten through cold winter storms do they.

                    Does it really take so long for information to get to you? Perhaps in another month or so you will see something from the same time about another poll from TV1 which disagreed with your story. May the Blizzard be with you in the meantime.

                    Snap. While I was typing this I see The Chairman responded in a similar vein

                    • Muttonbird

                      It is the latest poll. What other information is one supposed to use?

                      Until the next poll comes out, National are sub 40 and dropping.

                      Not a great place to be, I'm sure you'll agree.

                    • Robert Guyton

                      I didn't notice that, Alwyn, leaving me looking a right duffer! Never mind, I was only playing with the Chair. As for the delay we experience in getting live news, it's a blessing really; I wonder who the next POTUS will be: I've tired a little with Obama.

                      smiley

                    • alwyn

                      @Muttonbird.

                      You could look at the TV1 Poll from the same day. Of course I doubt if you really want to see National having risen and Labour having dropped and National back in the lead. It would probably put you right of your feed.

                    • alwyn

                      @Robert.

                      I am tempted to tell you but I hate to spoil your anticipation as you follow the 2016 Presidential Campaign. I'll give you a hint though. It isn't another Bush. As Barbara Bush said. Two is enough. Past that I will not go. You are just going to have to wait.

                      smiley

                    • Robert Guyton

                      I just hope to God they don't elect an idiot.

                  • The Chairman

                    Ploy you say?

                    This is no ploy, Robert. Just telling it how it is. The news feed is lacking. And it sends the wrong message.

                    It took this long for them to comment on the issue and they don't even cover it on their own news feed. Can you believe it?

                    So much for them putting the pressure on.

                    • Robert Guyton

                      Digging your daft hole deeper, Chair? You seem to lack self-awareness but worry not, help is at hand; we'll tell you when you stray into trite territory, make a Wally of yourself and flog that dead horse of your own creation too far. You're claiming that something that doesn't exist "sends the wrong message". Given that there are an infinite number of things that don't exist, your head must be ringing with wrong messages – hang on! I've cracked it, your malady; a head-full, wrong messages clamouring for your attention! No wonder you can't think straight.

                      No need for any thank-yous, Chair, just be kind to yourself, press your inner reset button and have another go tomorrow when you're feeling rested.

                    • Robert Guyton

                      When asked if The Greens actions were good, the Chair was uncharacteristically unequivocal:

                      "Of course. It was a good, long awaited move."

                      BUT shortly afterwards, he reverted to type;

                      "The news feed is lacking.

                      And it sends the wrong message.

                      It took this long for them to comment on the issue and they don't even cover it on their own news feed.

                      Can you believe it?"

                      That the Chair is Eeyore?

                      Never doubted it.

                  • The Chairman

                    It's not just something that doesn't exist, Robert. It's coverage of an important news item (that's meant to be leveraging pressure on the Government) that is actually missing on their own news feed. So, of course it sends the wrong message.

                    They are either slack at updating their news feed or they don't see it as being that news worthy.

                  • The Chairman

                    It's still absent from their news feed, Robert.

                    https://www.greens.org.nz/media

                    Why do you think that is? They don't want to rock the boat too much?

                    • Robert Guyton

                      Still absent, Chair!!!

                      This is even more outrageous than when it was simply absent; no wonder you've your knickers in a painful twist!

                      I only hope, for the sake of your circulation, the newsfeed isn't empty again, later today! Three-times as empty as when you first declared it empty! I doubt The Greens have any chance at all now, of being part of the next Government! Three times empty!!

                      I have to commend you, Chair, you certainly have an eye for empty and an ability to fluff-up something from nothing! You're the King of Empty, in my book, the Great Vacuum, the Viceroy of Void.

                      I wonder what else you'll discover isn't there, oh Dedicated Supporter of the Left?

                    • Incognito []

                      ex nihilo nihil fit

                    • Robert Guyton

                      Yes and I apologise to anyone who might have tried to follow the descent into the void; I take full responsibility for giving The Nothing any oxygen at all. My final word on the non-matter smiley

                    • Incognito []

                      Ouch! The true Left and ‘more left than most’ collectively seem to regard you as a “frickin clown”, according to their spokesperson. One wonders what they’d call you when you not just not disapprove of the (absent) newsfeed of the Green Party but also not raise some really serious concerns about their perceived abysmal PR and communication on core issues; the mind boggles.

                    • The Chairman

                      Dedicated supporter of the left indeed, Robert.

                      And we on the left consider core benefit increases a major issue.

                      Therefore, compounded by the fact it took so long for the Greens to break their silence on this issue, not covering it on their own news feed is another slap in the face for their support base on the left.

                      They aren't even doing enough to show their own support base that they care, let alone putting pressure on Labour.

                      And supporters like you commenting as you are don't do them any favours. In fact, I was just asked by a visitor (who looked at your comments) who is this frickin clown.

                    • Robert Guyton

                      You direct your visitors to look at your pointless, substance-free comments on a political blog???

                      What a strange person you are, Chair.

                      "Quick, Delores, come see what I jus' writ!"

                    • Sam

                      You sound like McTrash, Robert.

                    • Robert Guyton

                      You have a finely-tuned ear, Sam.

                    • Sam

                      i just don't think the woke have nearly as much support as they claim.

                    • Incognito []

                      If you can point to their “claim” of support, maybe then I can figure out whom you’re referring to. As it stands, it all sounds so vague

                    • Robert Guyton

                      Your favourite word, sam! Oh how you love to use it. It's well and truly a cliche now; perhaps you like to use an equivalent, or at least define what exactly it is you mean by "woke"? Then you might find we can understand what you are attempting to convey; words are like that; they need to be understood by both deliverer and receiver.

                    • Muttonbird

                      Soimon's using it too, in radio interviews. That puts him, the confused Sam, and bearded Bomber Bradbury in special company together.

                    • Sam

                      The woke over inflate Green polling by at least 1%. Come election results there true power is revealed – It's all spin, bullshit, virtue signal, bluster, genital issues, depression, mental illnesses, economic illiteracy, so on and so fourth.

                    • Incognito []

                      You said:

                      i [sic] just don’t think the woke have nearly as much support as they claim. [my bold]

                      Then you say:

                      The woke over inflate Green polling by at least 1%.

                      So far, I’ve only seen claims by you and I still don’t know whom you’re talking about.

                      Yesterday, another commenter got quite shitty with me when I asked to back-up their comment and it ended with that commenter taking a break from the site. It is tiring to have to ask people repeatedly to back-up their statements of fact or to make it clear that they are making up their opinions on the fly because to refuse so would be dishonest at best.

                    • Drowsy M. Kram

                      Wonderful comment at 10:14 am (22 July) Robert – top form.

                      The King of Empty; The Great Vacuum; The Viceroy of Void

                      Might I add (humbly): The Sovereign Sultan of Soggy cheeky

                      The Chairman is seemingly imprevious to mockery, and going negative plays to their strength. So go positive, the Ardern way.

                    • Sam

                      I knew the kool aid was strong around here but I didn't know it was this thick.

                      How about you do your own polling instead of trying to get me to do it for you.

                      The Greens poll higher than there election results. That's not difficult to do as they're now on 6% support.

                    • Robert Guyton

                      What's "woke" and why does its use cause Sam to behave like a sugared-up 5 year-old?

                    • Sam

                      Your wokeness has found some support, incognito. Well done. Green Party polling ought to surge way above there talents now!!! Amazing.

                    • Incognito []

                      I’m so woke that they made me a Moderator here 😉

                      Did you the surge in the polls when that happened?

                      How about you back-up your claims?

                    • Sam

                      No. That the Greens consistently poll higher than their election results needs as much explaining as NZFirst polling consistently lower than there election results. It's so common you'd have to be a genius to be able to ignore it.

                    • Incognito []

                      So, you cannot back-up your claims and you now appeal to common sense, which is a weak rhetorical tool at the best of times. It wasn’t even entertaining this time; what a waste of my time 🙁

                    • McFlock

                      The polls consistently get the Green vote correct to within about 1%? That must be a byproduct of single to low teen populerity levels, given that it's not unusual to for different polls for the 35-50% parties to have 6-9% between them.

                      Even so, I'm impressed at how accurate the polling of the Greens "consistently" is, according to Sam.

                    • Sam

                      Youd have had to have skulled hard on the kool aid to have so much confedience in popularity polling after BREXIT, Trump, May, Balsinaro (The Brazilian President) Australian Labour. There are so many examples of pollsters drinking there own Kool aid and you just want to drink more. Pfft

                      what ever. The Greens went from 10% to 6% and they don't have an electorate seat or the brains to do a deal for an electorate seat.

                    • McFlock

                      The Greens took a massive hit in the campaign from one decision and still got over the threshold.

                      The people saying the Greens are in trouble also reckoned NZ1 were done in 2008. Winston isn't the only one who can say "boo".

                    • Sam

                      Well I never said Winston was done. In fact apart of my claim that National had no mates was obvious when John Key started ruiling out a coalition with NZFirst.

                    • McFlock

                      what did you think in 2008?

                    • solkta

                      Had he been born in 2008?

                    • Sam

                      Based on US Fed Res actions I thought the gold price would halve, stocks would rally and Obama would be the first black president. And that NZFirst had a lot of dry powder. I wouldn't rule out Labour stepping aside in Northland to give NZFirst a clean run in the Northland electorate. Wish the Greens had the brains for something like that.

                      And [deleted and your last warning – Incognito] off silky

                    • Incognito []

                      See my Moderation note @ 10:40 PM.

                    • Sam

                      What did your mentor call me once. He was trying to make some sort of computer programming joke out of me by claiming I was a some sort of dildo. Y'know I'll make this real simple for you incognito. [deleted] off hypocrite.

                    • Incognito []

                      Drinking the Kool-Aid again? I have never had a mentor.

                    • The Al1en

                      A dildo named Justin

                    • Sam

                      Well what do you call lprint ? Boss, pal, Lynn. Something.

                    • Incognito []

                      I call him Lynn or sometimes Sysop; he’s not my boss, pal, or mentor.

                      You might want to take your finger off that button.

                    • McFlock

                      wow

                    • The Al1en

                      Not a one inch strap on like I just called you.

                    • Sam

                      So you speak calculus as well Alien (sorry if I misspelled your anonymous handle. It doesn't mater that much.)

                    • The Al1en

                      I'm not anonymous. I am a hideous triumph of form and function.

                    • Robert Guyton

                      Incognito asked Sam: "How about you back-up your claims?"

                      Sam replied, "No".

                      How rude!

                      Sam's taking a well-earned break now?

                    • Incognito []

                      Not yet. I decided to give him a chance to chill down and engage his brain. It’s up to him to push the self-destruct button or not.

                    • Robert Guyton

                      Sam defines "woke" as ,

                      " all spin, bullshit, virtue signal, bluster, genital issues, depression, mental illnesses, economic illiteracy, so on and so fourth".

                      He's slandering/bad-mouthing supporters of The Greens and Labour here with seeming impunity, getting away with it because few would want to engage with his menacing persona (Muttonbird's, "What's wrong with you?" summed up the discomfort Sam's comments create; what is wrong with Sam?

                    • Incognito []

                      Good morning, Robert. I assume that comment was (mainly) for me?

                      Do you have a link to the quoted text by Sam? I could find it myself but if you have it, handy that would be handy.

                      I cannot comment on what is wrong with Sam but I do know he can be a tricky customer commenter and (some) people react to his comments like a bull to a red flag; this doesn’t help.

                      I’m not happy either about the discomfort Sam might be creating here but it would set a very low bar if moderators would act upon this, wouldn’t you agree?

                      On this note, there are a few other commenters who regularly create a bit of ‘an atmosphere’ but as long as they don’t break the site’s policy rules we’ll have to learn to live with them – ignoring can be a good and often the best (!) course of action.

                    • Robert Guyton

                      Hi Incognito

                      Here: 22 July 2019 at 5:26 pm

                      I'm not suggesting Sam be banned at all, just trying to define the nature of his comments for the sake of greater understanding.

                      I see you've placed him on "final warning" and that's appropriate, I reckon. Being a tricky customer, Sam'll do something with that, no doubt. Perhaps he'll woke up smiley

                    • Incognito []

                      Thanks Robert, I value your genuine comment.

                      When I used the word/verb “act”, I didn’t mean “ban”. I see banning as the last resort of moderation when (all) other options for modification of behaviour and self-moderation have been exhausted or when the Moderator’s patience has run out. There are exceptions, of course, such as deliberately putting the site at (legal) risk and blatant violations of the policy, which can result in an instant and permanent ban.

                      Indeed, in this instance (with Sam) it is really about clarification of meaning, purpose, and intention of his comments. That was my original angle and I was acting as a commenter rather than a Moderator. However, others object to his use of the term “woke” in a disparaging way. I stepped in/up as a Moderator when Sam started to swear again despite having been warned about that by MS earlier that day. That was what my “last warning” was about.

                      In the end, I gave him a chance to chill down and come to his senses; his use of “woke” is obviously not going to change and sooner or later he might be pulled up for that, just like he got pulled up for swearing, but I rate as relatively low on the scale of ‘offences’ and more as a ‘nuisance’ rather IMHO.

                      I hope this makes some kind of sense. BTW, I’m speaking for myself and not for the other Moderators who may have very different views …

                    • Sam

                      See. It does not hurt to acknowledge basic assumptions. We assume many things. We assume we speak the same language. We assume New Zealand is 1200ks in length. We assume many things so we don't have to knit pick and disrespect people by demanding they search for bleeding fucking obvious facts and basically doing your homework for you.

                    • Incognito []

                      Assumptions are often implicit and rarely checked and validated.

                      We may think we speak the same language but that still leaves many interpretations, which is a beauty and a curse of language. Unfortunately, some people feel the need to re-define or twist words.

                      What might be an obvious fact to one may be a complete surprise to another. Often ‘facts’ are, in fact, factoids or even just opinions. Fact checking is crucial in order to separate wheat from chaff.

                      It shows good faith, respect, and honesty to oblige when asked to reveal one’s assumptions and sources for one’s facts. When one makes claims, it is only natural that one backs them up when asked. If one becomes defensive, aggressive, or outright abusive when challenged it creates a bad atmosphere that spoils it for others. This, in turn attracts the attention of moderators.

                    • McFlock

                      If a fact is all that obvious, it shouldn't be difficult to point to it's source.

                      And links are wonderful things.

                    • Sam

                      Yknow the Standard authors team are like top 4, I don't think any one would place them lower, most likely 3rd. Yknow really knowledgeable, really smart on a bunch of stuff. And lots of commenters that are really cleaver Y'know. So I'm not going to win pretty against them, it's not going to happen.

                      Me personally if I was outside of myself watching what I was saying I'd be shocked at what I'd be able to say. So I just want to say a couple things. Y'know I do think that political correctness leads to communism which is a totally failed left wing project. The other thing to me is that when people say the correct things, to me. That people recognize in particular, they recognize the intensity of the struggle and really that's the one. That people recognize how much of a struggle it is for both me and who ever says no I'm incorrect for this or that reason.

                      Now this is what I really want to talk about. There's a relatively small group of people that talk about the left and they talk about me. For the most part when people talk about it it doesn't really bother me unless you're actually the Prime Ministers or some one really noteworthy. I just feel that the debating community is for fighters and winners. And the thing that just sickens me is when people complain, and whine, and talk about land, people and politics, and they speak about these things in away that embodies a type of weakness that just makes me sick.

                      So for example when people (when woke people) try and talk about The Greens and try and box it in, and try and imply that The Greens shouldn't fight till the end. That to me is sickening.

                      You're given an opportunity on this planet to fight until death rips you from this planet, and everything is a metaphor, politics is a metaphor. It's a metaphor for how you want to live your life. Y'know certain people may want to live by certain rulz or codes but in the end all that maters is survival. I promise you you will survive if you want to fight and this is what we see in the debating chamber. You see people use fighting words until they are ripped out of there.

                      So when I see people of a certain caliber, people who have authority, a bit of power, people who've created a body of work and a reputation. When I see these woke people imply that you shouldn't go to the line or imply that you shouldn't do everything humanly possible to win, it makes me want to puke.

                      Just consider this. Jacinda Ardern is reaching as many if not more people than the All Blacks. We are a population of 4 million and some social media accounts of her views at 10, 20 million or more. John Key started the social media PM and Jacinda kept it up. So it's a reality, the debating community is a reality, it's about fighting till the end. There is nothing cowardly about any debating technique. There's nothing cowardly about making a comment. The only thing cowardly is not being proud of your country and refuse to fight for it.

                      Y'know I'm convinced that all political correctness does is make people feel in touch with themselves. The thing is internal experiences do not manifest in reality. So this rant is just for the voices that Iv heard. Not often do I get words of support from members of the standard, it happens but it happens more else where, this rants for you. You're not actually going to die in the debating community for real, let it teach you.

                    • Incognito []

                      That was indeed quite a rant, Sam. You seem to be saying that you have a physical reaction to what you read here, which explains the nature of some of your comments. Sometimes, your comments are great, but other times you get carried away with hostile and aggressive comments.

                      I think very highly of authors and commenters here; they are a bunch of good people who are generally, but not always, considerate and respectful of others. I also think that not many come here to ‘fight and win’, but some do. Quite a few come here to debate in good faith, learn, find common ground with others, have a bit of a joke and a laugh, share good, bad, and sad stories, ask for advice, et cetera. At least, that is how I see it.

                      Asking you to back up your claims and challenging you is not saying you are incorrect or fighting you, it is not about winning, but that is what you think it is and that is how you respond. And then people react to your fighting words and win-lose attitude and before you know, we have ‘fisty cuffs’ here. It turns off many people, which is a problem.

                      You talk a lot about fighting for a (good?) cause, which I find hard to reconcile with your other comment today @ 7:15 PM in which you said that you couldn’t be bothered to put any effort into your comments and that you’re only interested in mocking us; your overuse and abuse of “woke” is a case in point.

                      You’re a conundrum, Sam, and I cannot decide whether you fit into the TS community or whether you’re a disruptor. Which shall it be, Sam?

                    • Sam

                      Nah, I stopped putting any effort into writing up comments on the standard when Lynn and other authors moved my comments into open mic for attacking the author or some shit.

                      you see when I see the opinion piece and then the proceeding comments are overwhelmingly to one side like with the great free speech war or the great Russia gate war. That's when I like to bring it with the facts bring it with the facts and so on. And Lynn especially simply doesn't like it when I do that so I just don't bother anymore. Now I'll just moch you remorselessly for being low IQ, lo low energy, low intellect, as well as being physically and emotionally challenged.

                    • Incognito []

                      When you attack an author, you usually receive a ban instead of just being moved to OM. The latter is more for OT comments.

                      If you “stopped putting any effort into writing up comments on the standard” and you “just don’t bother anymore” because of some treatment in the past by Lynn and you just show up here to mock us “remorselessly for being low IQ, lo low energy, low intellect, as well as being physically and emotionally challenged” then why come here at all? Why don’t you do yourself a favour and go somewhere else where you don’t have that ‘burden of the past’?

                    • Muttonbird

                      Yo, Sam.

                      Since you ran down the Greens polling, they have jumped 3%.

                      Keep it up! 🤣

                    • Sam

                      You sound like a fresh Uni grad day one on the shop floor.

                    • Sam

                      Because woke identitarian fan girls of the Green Party is letting the whole squad down which makes me write, literally commen sense. LMFAO.

                    • Incognito []

                      You choose disruptor then? Still intent to continue using “woke” in the disparaging way you do?

                      A sure and short path to martyrdom, Sam, but I’m giving you the choice.

                    • Sam

                      if you feel that way then ban me because that's hella childish and lame. Lmao

                    • Incognito []

                      If you want to continue along the same lines and self-destruct that is your choice, not mine.

                      Make wise choices in life, Sam.

                    • Sam

                      Bro. You are. Almost, inspiring. Lmfao.

                    • Incognito []

                      🙂

                      No Bro.

        • Muttonbird 12.1.1.2

          You do know the AAAP hold these clinics regularly? There are always queues because lots of people need help with asking for their full entitlements.

          Out of interest, what was your take on Metiria Turei's speech and the fallout from it?

          • alwyn 12.1.1.2.1

            Out of curiosity where is the lady now? And did she ever pay back the money she defrauded from the taxpayer? I seem to remember she promised she would do so but I fear that promises from politicians, even disgraced ones, are seldom honoured.

            • Robert Guyton 12.1.1.2.1.1

              You can be so spiteful, Alwyn.

              I wonder why that is?

            • Muttonbird 12.1.1.2.1.2

              That's up to WINZ. I'm sure they'll be onto it.

            • Incognito 12.1.1.2.1.3

              That reminds me that you still have to provide an adequate response as to why you criticised and complained about Weka’s previous comments and moderation & banning of you with regards to your incessant questioning about the Electorate Offices of the Green Party.

              In the meantime, here’s a piece for your edification: https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/114333975/after-a-dreadful-2017-can-the-greens-do-better-in-2020

              And if ever find yourself stranded outside Wellington and you need to contact the Green Party: https://www.greens.org.nz/contact

              • Muttonbird

                I read that Stuff piece by Stacey Kirk's replacement, Thomas Coughlan

                2017 was the year the Greens made government and are now part of big positive changes for New Zealand.

                Swing and a miss, Thomas.

              • Sam

                Days after the Greens got sworn into a coalition government Golriz goes and outs Andrew little for braking some law. That was the Greens first move as a coalition partner in a government. They are woke, inclusional, and they lost there bloody co-leader weeks out from an election. So, let's not shine warm fuzzy rainbows up each other. The Greens have a lot of appeasing to there base to do. Y'know there's like 3000 permaculture members, even less vegans, even less radical lefties and even less trannies. The rest are main fucking stream climate adapters. And I could care even less about free fucken speech or cunt, or even how delusion large your national campaign footprint is relative to the puny number of voters being signalled too. Y'know the big fucken green vote goes to the one who will literally go into bare knuckle fight, win while cleaning plastics and planting trees okay? Not fucken rainbows up everywhere.

          • The Chairman 12.1.1.2.2

            While AAAP hold these clinics regularly, the queues are growing. Just as they are at food banks.

            Moreover lots of people that need help getting their full entitlements aren't getting it without AAAP help, which was also meant to change.

            Metiria Turei's speech saw the Greens go up in the polls. Their management of it was their downfall. Things were uncovered that weakened their position.

            • Robert Guyton 12.1.1.2.2.1

              The Righteous Right got riotously het-up over that arrogant solo-mum Maori greenie and gave her the serve she so richly deserved. Aye.

              • The Chairman

                Not at first. Yet, when things were uncovered that weakened her position, indeed they did, Robert.

                • Robert Guyton

                  Indeed they did, like sharks in chummed-up water, their dead eyes fixed on their prey, their bellies aching with Righteous hunger. Oh, how they whipped themselves into a furious fever! Oh, how their long-held suspicions were confirmed. Best weeks of their lives, they just KNEW she was no good! Alwyn's heart still races at the memory smiley

            • Muttonbird 12.1.1.2.2.2

              How do you know the queues are growing?

              You haven't said what you thought of Turei's speech. I have to assume you agreed with what she said and that it was a good idea to say it. After all, she was batting for the very people you claim to bat for.

              • The Chairman

                How do you know the queues are growing?

                That is reflected in the massive increase in the demand for hardship grants and also the massive increase in emergency housing demand.

                Personally, I initially thought it was a good speech and it resonated with many, but as I said, it all unraveled when things were uncovered.

  12. joe90 13

    Hit Now to see what was going on with Apollo 11 exactly fifty years ago.

    https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/

  13. Morrissey 14

    The Dismal-crats and their ridiculous outlet MSNBC are paving the way for another term of Trump.

    Leading Dismal-crat analyst Donny Deutsch in the house! That's Zbigniew Brzezinski's awful daughter nodding her head gravely and vacantly as he rants….

    • alwyn 14.1

      Jesus. You really do try and spoil our Sunday evenings don't you?

      Please, please come to your senses America. To play with a variation on a 1968 theme. "Dump The Trump".

  14. Muttonbird 15

    Oh dear. There are now two asterisks next to England's CWC win**.

    One because there was no winner of the game. And the other because the umpires screwed up on ball 298 of 300.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12251485

    • The Al1en 15.1

      Two asterisks and a massive bucket of your tear soaked kleenex 😆

      • Muttonbird 15.1.1

        I did think twice about commenting on this, and another article a day or so ago on reports the MCC will review the laws which played such a significant part in this remarkable game.

        I thought twice about it because the other day you'd got a bit upset that people might question the outcome. You then went off on some sob story about starting from nothing and having nothing now. I didn't want to upset you further.

        Still, this is a major development and you are acting like a middle England twat again so I'm glad I did.

      • Muttonbird 15.1.2

        Also, this development has removed your only defence which was ambiguity around what constituted 'the act' beginning an overthrow.

        Good times.

  15. The Chairman 16

    And now, time for a music break

  16. The Chairman 17

    Seeing this (link below) on the news tonight reminded me of this guy

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2019/07/watch-ceo-successfully-jet-packs-across-sydney-harbour.html

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  • Govt flounders while ocean temps soar
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    1 day ago
  • Learning From Brexit
    Whether Britain leaving the European Union was right or wrong, good or bad is for the Brits to decide. But there are lessons about international trade to be learned from Brexit, especially as it is very unusual for an economy to break so completely from its major training partner.In Econ101 ...
    PunditBy Brian Easton
    2 days ago
  • Bernard’s Chorus for Friday, July 12
    TL;DR: My top six things to note around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day or so on the morning of Friday, July 12 are: Read more ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago
  • Hot Damn! It's The Soggy Bottom Boys!
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    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    2 days ago
  • When an independent expert / advisory group is anything but ..
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    Mountain TuiBy Mountain Tui
    2 days ago
  • The Kākā’s Pick 'n' Mix for Friday, July 12
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago
  • Weekly Roundup 12-July-2024
    Kia ora and welcome to another Friday roundup, in which we pull together some of the links and stories that caught our eye this week. Feel free to add more in the comments! The week in Greater Auckland On Monday, Scott delivered a delicious disquisition on donut cities, ...
    Greater AucklandBy Greater Auckland
    2 days ago
  • The Kākā’s Journal of Record for Friday, July 12
    Photo by Dominik Scythe on UnsplashTL;DR: The top six announcements, rulings, reports, surveys, statistics and research around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the day to 6:00 am on Friday, July 11 are:Climate: Transport Minister Simeon Brown said in a release the Government's plan to reverse New ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago
  • The Hoon around the week to July 12
    TL;DR: The podcast above of the weekly ‘hoon’ webinar for paying subscribers features co-hosts and talking with:The Kākā’s climate correspondent talking about the National-ACT-NZ First Government’s climate strategy ‘pamphlet’, its watering down of Clean Car Standards and its general lack of coherence;University of Otago Foreign Relations Professor ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago
  • Casey Costello strikes again
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    Mountain TuiBy Mountain Tui
    2 days ago
  • Skeptical Science New Research for Week #28 2024
    Open access notables Antarctic Bottom Water Warming, Freshening, and Contraction in the Eastern Bellingshausen Basin, Johnson et al., Geophysical Research Letters Cold winds blowing over polynyas (areas of ice-free water) on the Antarctic continental shelf create sea ice, forming very cold and somewhat salty, hence very dense, waters. These dense ...
    3 days ago
  • We're back! Join us for the weekly Hoon on YouTube Live
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago
  • Climate Change: National’s gas fantasy
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • A criminal minister
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Gordon Campbell on Luxon in the NATO pressure cooker
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    WerewolfBy lyndon
    3 days ago
  • Bernard’s Dawn Chorus for Thursday July 11
    TL;DR: My top six things to note around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day or so on the morning of July 11 are:Climate: Climate Change Minister Simon Watts issued the National-ACT-NZ First Coalition Government’s climate strategy yesterday, including a three-page document with five bullet ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago
  • By George! Splendid streets take shape down south
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    Greater AucklandBy Guest Post
    3 days ago
  • Bernard's Pick 'n' Mix for Thursday, July 11
    TL;DR: My pick of the top six links elsewhere around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day or so to 7:30 am on July 11 are:Scoop: NZ First Minister acted 'contrary to law’. Casey Costello has been severely reprimanded by the Chief Ombudsman and forced ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago
  • The Kākā’s Journal of Record for Thursday, July 11
    TL;DR: The top six announcements, rulings, reports, surveys, statistics and research around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the day to 6:00 am on Thursday, July 11 are:Economy: Te Pūtea Matua The Reserve Bank of New Zealand (RBNZ) announced its Monetary Policy Committee decided to hold the ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago
  • Farmers’ revenge meets Green resistance
    If there was one issue that united farmers in opposition to the Labour Government, it was the battle of the waterways between farmers and Environment Minister David Parker. Parker won the first round with his 2020 National Policy Standard on Freshwater Management (NPSFM) which imposed tough new standards on waterways ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    3 days ago
  • Personal Reflections: 10th July
    Please note: This is a personal reflection and does not refer to politics. These entries are not sent to subscribers.Text within this block will maintain its original spacing when publishedHubris and Pride Out of the fire and into the frying pan? Swimming with the big sharks Tonight, I am excited. ...
    Mountain TuiBy Mountain Tui
    3 days ago
  • Oh Vienna
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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    4 days ago
  • Geoffrey Miller: New Zealand forges deeper ties with NATO
    Christopher Luxon is finding his foreign policy feet. Now eight months into the job, New Zealand’s Prime Minister is in Washington DC this week to attend the NATO summit. It is the third year in a row that Wellington has been invited to the annual gathering of the North Atlantic ...
    Democracy ProjectBy Geoffrey Miller
    4 days ago
  • Climate Change: National’s carbon capture fantasy
    As the climate crisis has grown worse, the tactics of the polluting industries have shifted. From denying climate change, they then moved on to pushing "carbon capture" - dumping their emissions underground rather than in the atmosphere. It's a PR scam, intended to prolong the life of the industry we ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Harsh Truths.
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    4 days ago
  • Explainer: Simeon Brown's CCUS Announcement
    Sources for the data and research:Peter Milne: Time’s up on Gorgon’s five years of carbon storage failureSimon Holmes a Court: "Does best CCS power station in world provide model for Australia?" Chris Vanderstock: "The truth about Carbon Capture and Storage"   "Sunk Costs": documenting CCS's failure to meet every, single, target, ...
    Mountain TuiBy Mountain Tui
    4 days ago
  • The Kiwirail Interislander saga continues
    This morning, 1 News is reporting that the cancellation of the i-Rex ferries has so far cost taxpayers $484 million.That's almost half a billion dollars. That could probably fund thousands of new doctors, maybe complete a few hospital rebuilds, or how about money for our experienced police so they don’t ...
    Mountain TuiBy Mountain Tui
    4 days ago
  • Bernard’s Chorus for Wednesday, July 10
    As foreshadowed in legislation passed quietly under urgency just before Christmas, the Transport Minister has personally watered down standards for car imports in a way expected to add millions of tonnes to our climate emissions Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: My top six things to note around housing, climate ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    4 days ago
  • Christopher Luxon's business acumen
    It’s April, and the relatively new Prime Minister of New Zealand is on his first overseas mission to South East Asia.Christopher Luxon walks into the room. A warm smile on his face. A hand extended to his counterpart.“We are open for business,” he says confidently. “New Zealand is under new ...
    Mountain TuiBy Mountain Tui
    4 days ago
  • Meet New Zealand's Russell Brand?
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    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    4 days ago
  • Why is the Government flooring it on unsafe speeds?
    Feedback closes midnight Thursday 11 July, on the draft speed-setting rule. See our previous post on the subject for details, and guidance on having your say. Among other things, it proposes to raise speeds in cities back up to a universal 50km/h (with no option of 30km/h), and will restrict safe ...
    Greater AucklandBy Greater Auckland
    4 days ago
  • American Boy
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    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    4 days ago
  • Bernard's Pick 'n' Mix for Wednesday, July 10
    Photo by Jannis Brandt on UnsplashTL;DR: My pick of the top six links elsewhere around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day or so to 7:00 am are:Investigation: Benefitting from the misery of others. Over 40% of emergency housing funding went to a concentrated group ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    4 days ago
  • The Kākā’s Journal of Record for Wednesday, July 10
    Photo by Mr Cup / Fabien Barral on UnsplashTL;DR: The top six announcements, reports and research around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the day to 6:30 am on Wednesday, July 10 are:Climate: Minister for Transport Simeon Brown announced changes to the Clean Car Importer Standard that ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    4 days ago
  • How rural families are saving thousands with electric vehicles
    This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections by Daisy Simmons (Photo credit: Automotive Rhythms / CC BY-NC 2.0) Some people thought Juliana Dockery and her husband Sean were being impractical when they bought an electric vehicle in 2022. Why? Like one in five Americans, they live in a rural area ...
    4 days ago
  • Love to complete it all
    Photo credit: Rob DickinsonThis is my wish for you: Comfort on difficult days, smiles when sadness intrudes, rainbows to follow the clouds, laughter to kiss your lips, sunsets to warm your heart, hugs when spirits sag, beauty for your eyes to see, friendships to brighten your being, faith so that ...
    Mountain TuiBy Mountain Tui
    5 days ago
  • Climate Change: What’s left of the Emissions Reduction Plan?
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • The President They Have Got.
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    5 days ago
  • Has Progressivism Peaked?
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    5 days ago
  • The Kākā’s Dawn Chorus for July 9
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    5 days ago
  • Mr Luxon goes to Washington.
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    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    5 days ago
  • Kiwirail at Councils Transport & Infrastructure Committee
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    Greater AucklandBy Greater Auckland
    5 days ago
  • Bernard's Pick 'n' Mix for Tuesday, July 9
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    5 days ago
  • What’s next after Supreme Court curbs regulatory power: More focus on laws’ wording, less on the...
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    5 days ago
  • The folly of retreat in the face of defeat
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    Mountain TuiBy Mountain Tui
    5 days ago
  • The Parent Zone
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    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    5 days ago
  • Tuesday: The Kākā’s Journal of Record for July 9
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    5 days ago
  • Breaking up is so hard to do
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    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    5 days ago
  • Gordon Campbell on the privatising of state housing provision, by stealth
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    Mountain TuiBy Mountain Tui
    6 days ago
  • “Laser focused on the cost of living crisis”
    Cartoonist credit: Christopher Slane ...
    Mountain TuiBy Mountain Tui
    6 days ago
  • Gordon Campbell on the elections in France, Iran and Britain
    As Werewolf predicted a week ago, it was premature to call Emmanuel Macron’s snap election call “a bitter failure” and “a humiliating defeat” purely on the basis of the first round results. In fact, it is the far-right that has suffered a crushing defeat. It has come in third in ...
    WerewolfBy lyndon
    6 days ago
  • The UK needs proportional representation
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Bernard's Chorus for Monday, July 8
    TL;DR: Thanks for the break, and now I’m back. These are the top six things I’ve noted around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day or so:Chris Bishop’s pledge to ‘flood the market’ with land to build new houses both out and up remains dependent ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    6 days ago
  • French Left Wins Big
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    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    6 days ago
  • Satire: It's great our Prime Minister is so on the ball
    ...
    Mountain TuiBy Mountain Tui
    6 days ago
  • This is the real reason David Seymour needs to reinterpret the Treaty of Waitangi
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    Mountain TuiBy Mountain Tui
    6 days ago
  • Going for Housing Growth: Filling the housing donut?
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    Greater AucklandBy Scott Caldwell
    6 days ago
  • Bernard's Pick 'n' Mix for Monday July 9
    TL;DR: As of 6:00 am on Monday, July 9, the top six links elsewhere I’ve spotted around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last day or so are:Scoop: Probation officer sacked for snooping is linked to alleged spy Jian Yang. Corrections dismissed Xu Shan over his ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    6 days ago
  • What has the Government done for you so far?
    List effective 1 July 2024Consumer and household (note: road and car costs are under infrastructure)Cancelled half-price public transport fares for under-25s and free fares for under-13s funding, scrapping the Labour government-era subsidies. The change will not affect pre-existing discounts funded directly by councils.Cut funding for free budgeting services. One third of the ...
    Mountain TuiBy Mountain Tui
    6 days ago
  • The Kākā’s Journal of Record for Monday, July 8
    Photo by Amador Loureiro on UnsplashTL;DR: As of 6:00 am on Monday, July 8, the top six announcements, speeches, reports and research around housing, climate and poverty in Aotearoa’s political economy in the last three days were:Local Government Minister Simeon Brown announced the Coalition Government would not be responding to ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    6 days ago
  • The Kākā’s diary for the week to July 15 and beyond
    TL;DR: The six key events to watch in Aotearoa-NZ’s political economy in the week to July 15 include:PM Christopher Luxon is travelling to Washington this week to attend a NATO meeting running from Tuesday to Thursday. Parliament is not sitting this week.The RBNZ is expected to hold the OCR on ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    6 days ago
  • 2024 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #27
    A listing of 31 news and opinion articles we found interesting and shared on social media during the past week: Sun, June 30, 2024 thru Sat, July 6, 2024. Story of the week Our Story of the Week is brought to us by Dr. Ella Gilbert, a researcher with the British ...
    7 days ago
  • The Great Splintering: Thoughts on the British Election
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    7 days ago
  • 2% royalties for mining? Deal!
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    Mountain TuiBy Mountain Tui
    7 days ago
  • Aotearoa Says – No Diggity.
    Strictly biz, don't play aroundCover much ground, got game by the poundGetting paid is a forteEach and every day, true player wayOne month ago tens of thousands of Kiwis took to the streets to protest against the coalition’s Fast Track legislation. Concerned that it would prioritise some people making a ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    7 days ago
  • Strangers and others
    For a moment yesterday I thought I might have been trailing my old friend Simon Wilson across the Danube, over cobbled stones, and into the old town square of Linz. Same comfortable riding style, same jacket, same full head of hair, but no, different friend of cycling.There is a kindred ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    1 week ago
  • Killing the Golden Goose of New Zealand's economy
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    Mountain TuiBy Mountain Tui
    1 week ago

  • Prime Minister wraps up US visit in California
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has finished a successful four-day visit to the United States with meetings in California on his final day focusing on innovation and investment.  “It has been fantastic to be in San Francisco today seeing first-hand the deepening links between New Zealand and California. “New Zealand company, EV Maritime, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    22 hours ago
  • Prime Minister leads Indo-Pacific Four at NATO
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon today chaired a meeting of the Indo-Pacific Four (IP4) countries – Australia, Japan, the Republic of Korea and New Zealand. The IP4 met in the context of NATO’s Summit in Washington DC hosted by President Biden. “Prosperity is only possible with security,” Mr Luxon says. “We need ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • District Court judges appointed
    Attorney-General Hon Judith Collins today announced the appointment of three new District Court Judges.   The appointees, who will take up their roles in July and August at the Manukau, Rotorua and Invercargill courts, are:   Matthew Nathan Judge Nathan was admitted to bar in New Zealand in 2021, having previously been ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Urgent review into Wairoa flood response begins
    Environment Minister, Penny Simmonds today announced the terms of reference for a rapid review into the Wairoa flood response. “The Wairoa community has raised significant concerns about the management of the Wairoa River bar and the impact this had on flooding of properties in the district,” says Ms Simmonds. “The Government ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • NZDF’s Red Sea deployment extended
    New Zealand has extended its contribution to the US-led coalition working to uphold maritime security in the Red Sea, Defence Minister Judith Collins and Foreign Minister Winston Peters announced today. “The decision to extend this deployment is reflective of the continued need to partner and act in line with New ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Government provides support to tackle tax debt and compliance
    New compliance funding in Budget 2024 will ensure Inland Revenue is better equipped to catch individuals who are evading their tax obligations, Revenue Minister Simon Watts says. “New Zealand’s tax debt had risen to almost $7.4 billion by the end of May, an increase of more than 50 per cent since 2022. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Taking action to reduce road cones
    The Coalition Government is taking action to reduce expenditure on road cones and temporary traffic management (TTM) while maintaining the safety of workers and road users, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says.  Rolling out a new risk-based approach to TTM that will reduce the number of road cones on our roads.  ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Celebrating 100 years of progress
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Foreign Minister to travel to Korea and Japan
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters will travel to the Republic of Korea and Japan next week.    “New Zealand enjoys warm and enduring relationships with both Korea and Japan. Our relationships with these crucial partners is important for New Zealand’s ongoing prosperity and security,” says Mr Peters.    While in the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Huge opportunity for educators and students as charter school applications open
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Decreasing gas reserves data highlights need to reverse oil and gas exploration ban
    MBIE’s annual Petroleum Reserves report detailing a 20 per cent reduction in New Zealand’s natural gas reserves shows the need to reverse the oil and gas exploration ban, Energy Minister Simeon Brown says.“Figures released by MBIE show that there has been a 20 per cent reduction in New Zealand’s natural ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Providers of military assistance to Russia targeted in new sanctions
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has announced further sanctions as part of the Government’s ongoing response to Russia’s illegal invasion of Ukraine.    “Russia’s continued illegal war of aggression against Ukraine is a direct and shocking assault on the rules-based order. Our latest round of sanctions targets Russians involved in that ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • OECD report shows New Zealand is a red tape state
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Government unveils five-point climate strategy
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