I am feel sorry for you Mikesh, that you find Russian anti-war political activists a yawn.
Maybe you prefer some blood thirsty pro-war Russian song.
Or maybe you only think that the Pussy Riot anti-war rap is "ho hum" because you don't have to suffer the grief of living in exile away from your homeland and family like they have to, where if they were at home they could get 15 years in jail for their words or songs.
Or maybe it is because you can't understand their Russian lyrics that you are bored.
So here they are. Just for you. An amended version with subtitles in English so you can understand it.
[deleted long lyrics]
[The complete English “Lyrycs” are in initial link @ 1. There’s no need to dump a long copy & pasta here to force another commenter who clearly is less receptive to read it and/or view the YT clip and for others to have to scroll past. If you insist on incessantly forcing your own personal views on others perhaps it is time you start your own blog – Incognito]
Interesting to see that the cost has already sneaked over a billion. Could have restored Northland’s entire rail system for that, plus the planned link to Northport.
As someone totally into Sustainable Transport…this is really so aggravating. Just gotta wonder wtf ? 2020 Ongoing……..
What I find most frustrating is that we’re now into the 15th year of rail upgrade works where nearly every Christmas/New Year as well as most public holidays and many other weekends the network is shut down for major works and yet we’re still in this position. What have Kiwirail been doing all this time? It feels like Kiwirail have been maintaining the network like a lowly used freight network.
There is some funny satire in Stuff, Damien Grant says it was time not to sound off about what the lone libertarian sees was wrong with the world … then does a swordfish profile of any and all politicians.
"But degrowth is totally different from a recession or a government austerity program. It involves a carefully planned and managed reduction of less necessary and undesirable economic activities, and increase in activities supporting wellbeing and living within planetary boundaries. Degrowth is about reducing energy and raw material use to sustainable levels, and improving the quality of life for all."
But does it offer 'it' for 8 billion?….that is the argument unaddressed.
Of course, there are many unaddressed arguments and unanswered questions because of the sheer nature and complexity of the issue and the stage it is at. However, I’d say yes, this is the implicit premise and requirement for any adequate and appropriate policy and implementation plan at all levels & scales involved aka multi-lateral international approach. Given that many nations are at quite different levels of (socio-economic) development and political freedom and engagement, and given that there will be many internal (political) barriers, it might seem that even thinking about addressing these issues is pie-in-the-sky stuff that makes for excellent thought experiments in Philosophy departments.
Do you have any foundational problems with what is posited in the article and the current thinking about these issues, e.g., are they non-issues in your opinion? Are you simply pointing out the holes & gaps? Do you have any ideas for possible approaches or solutions to offer?
My wish for the NY is fewer Gosman-like comments (aka interminable questioning and sealioning) and more constructive debate. Many a contrarian tries to bog down debate in pedantic nitpicking and almost absurd what-if scenarios, none of which is remotely helpful unless the aim is to score a few laughs among the likeminded.
Thanks. The transcript was ok after removing the 347 paragraph marks and adding some necessary punctuation. It reminded me strongly of The Complementary Nature by Engstrøm and Kelso with a few Jungian themes.
While I ‘liked’ it, I fail to see how this grants my NY’s ‘wish’.
Good – and that is the kind of direction I would like the discussion to take as well. That would be my NY wish.
But sadly social media seems to mitigate against this wish terribly. The physical remove and anonymous nature of the connection eliminates the social feedback; we cannot see in real time the look on a persons face or body language that would normally be clues to moderate behaviour. There is little consequence to attention-seeking, narcissistic and self-aggrandising aggressive behaviour; with a ready resort to sneering derision, contempt and even disgust.
Even with the best moderation, the game seems chronically tilted in this direction.
Social media have been around for a while now and so has TS. The limitations/restrictions (but also the possibilities) are nothing new. It is my observation, one that seems to be shared with others, that the nature of comments/interactions on SM have hardened and become harsher, less tolerant and more aggressive, and even more threatening and violent in some cases. There is a plethora of articles and opinion pieces on this unfortunate development, the apparent escalation of which may coincide with the Covid-19 pandemic. (NB the pandemic is still raging!)
As I said earlier today, the TS commentariat has a critical (self-)moderating role to play in the discourse on this forum. This ranges from DNFTT to calling out and challenging others to put their best arguments forward in open/public debate in good faith that is based on mutual trust and respect.
Your YT link touches on this behaviour in a very general and is by no means a blueprint – the process might be messy, dirty, and ugly even aka robust debate but the intended outcome is all worth it.
Because the commentariat is a collective, not every commenter has to be on his/her best behaviour all the time, it is simply not possible, but also not required. As with all collectives and collective actions, such as the science system, self-correction is fundamental for good functioning and achieving desired and positive outcomes in the short and medium term and longer-term impacts for the greater good.
However, each collective and commentariat has a tipping point where discourse and action flip from net benefit to net polarising, divisive, and exclusionary aka rabbit hole and/or echo chamber. I believe that we have moved closer to this tipping point hence my NY’s wish.
I have a multitude of issues with the premise…not least of which is energy.
Michaux has determined that we are a world that consumes approx 19 terawatts of power to provide for our population and that we can at best hope for a 10 terawatt world in the near term though more likely a 5 terawatt world…and he is one of the few who has taken the time to calculate it….that suggests a sustainable population around 25% of current which is not too far removed from the pre industrial plateau of around 1 billion if you allow a premium for some energy use that wasnt available prior….the question , as always . is how we get there from here ….and all indications are we will do it the way humans have always done…messily, if we manage it at all.
Agreed. I have taken the time to read Michaux in more detail this past few days and I agree with his core numbers; it was absolutely worth the time to pick through his report. (I cannot claim to have lingered carefully over every page however.)
We consistently underestimate the magnitude of the task to transition off fossil fuels. And those who argue we can just economise our way out of the problem are not properly appreciating what we are up against either. Nor how deeply interconnected all the parts of the industrial eco-system are. Advanced mRNA vaccines for instance, are a pinnacle product of an immensely complex supply and technology chain (the story of all the elements necessary for their design, production and distribution alone would fill many volumes of notes.) Taking an arbitrary axe to any single part of the system would have unintended consequences galore.
As a first approximation, if you want us to consume per capita energy at 1950's levels, then 1950's technology is the base assumption that accompanies this. And all the social conditions that went with this. (Woke ideologies being a luxury belief only wealthy people can afford to indulge in.)
Yet the demand goes quite the other way. In order to bring the other 7b people into modernity alone – at current consumption levels would require maybe 5x more energy – 95 terawatts. Even if we halved the current per capita energy intensity to get people fully into modernity, that still comes to a staggering 50 terawatts.
No matter how you cut it, SWB renewables alone do not even touch the sides of this immense number in the long run. Even with a heroic rollout of Gen 4 nuclear 50tW would be an immense challenge – but not as impossible. The only known long term technology that is capable of delivering is nuclear fusion, but we cannot yet predict when it will be available at the required scale.
Which is why I argue for a mix of SWB (in locations where it makes economic sense), and nuclear fission as a phased progression. The existing SWB rollout bridges over the next decade to Gen 4 fission, which in turn bridges over the next century or so to fusion. (We have seen a similar progression within fossil fuels themselves, from coal, to oil and then gas.)
I would not claim this to be easy, but at least it is feasible.
As said to roblogic last week we may eventually develop fusion but that will require a (high level) functioning society….which is by no means guaranteed.
Continuing to prioritise economic growth is not a recipe for being a good ancestor. Nor is it a recipe for human progress …
You reject this?
If Michaux has done those calculations, as you say, then what does he propose we do and how? What alternative suggestions are out there that are more palatable (aka realistic) to you and presumably to the majority of people who are all in the same boat whether they know it, like it, or want it?
….the question , as always . is how we get there from here ….and all indications are we will do it the way humans have always done…messily, if we manage it at all.
If one rejects the foundational premise, then the question is moot.
If you read what i wrote you note I never rejected the premise that unlimited economic growth is neither sustainable nor desired, I did pose the question of how it is proposed we move from the unsustainable to the sustainable (in two seperate instances)….far from being moot it is fundamentally important.
However, you wrote that you “have a multitude of issues with the premise”.
I find your comments invariably ambiguous hence the simple question to you, to remove ambiguity and gain clarity – talking past each other is such a waste of good time.
It seems we and many others are asking the same or similar questions based on the same or similar premises. However, ideas for moving forward seem to be scant supply. Since you seem to be willing to accept his premises, what does Michaux suggest if anything?
"It seems we and many others are asking the same or similar questions based on the same or similar premises. However, ideas for moving forward seem to be scant supply. Since you seem to be willing to accept his premises, what does Michaux suggest if anything?'
Unfortunately that is not the case….(too) many are not asking that question and the point of drawing attention to Michaux's work is to demonstrate that much of what is proposed as solution is not.
His observation is we will have less, whether by choice or imposition ….how we deal with that fact is for us to decide, but the first step is acceptance.
That sounds like ‘intellectual cowardice’ to me. In other words, he [Michaux] apparently forecasts and points to doom ‘here it is folks, suck it up’ and then washes his hands off it. For example, when Shaun Hendy and his colleagues modelled the data at the time, they found an upper predicted probability of 80,000 deaths in NZ due to Covid-19. However, they ran mitigating scenarios and made plenty of suggestions to implement as public health measures. In other words, they were highly instrumental in finding solutions and didn’t stay at the sidelines letting others do the heavy lifting. That seems to be missing with Michaux – there are too many ‘influencers’ and YouTubers pretending to be public intellectuals already and they’re often poorly understood and/or misrepresented here on TS in (selective) quotes and clip-dumps.
I know the above sounds unduly harsh, so I looked up his website and to give him credit, he seems aware of this/his limitation.
I am developing a plan to transform our relationship between energy, minerals, and industrialization, as the existing proposed strategic plans are shown to be logistically impractical.
A contribution to the start of the discussion. [my italics]
I am doing work in the following sectors, to understand where we are now and what will be required in the future [my italics]
This sounds more promising than my initial superficial impression of Michaux based on your comments so far. I’ll leave it to others who have read more of his stuff to add more to this or not.
You are projecting your own emotive response upon Michaux's work.
In seeking solutions he discovered a dearth of information, gathered that information, analysed it and drew conclusions.
He has indicated the likely path of solution but the detail will likely be bespoke…what may work for one economy/location may nor be applicable/possible/desireable in another.
and all of the (potential) solutions will likely be uncomfortable in a political sense…..there is no neat easy solution on offer tied up in a bow.
Michaux sounds like quite an intellectual tour de force.
He has indicated the likely path of solution but the detail will likely be bespoke…
Excellent! So, why don’t you give us an illustration?
and all of the (potential) solutions will likely be uncomfortable in a political sense…..
Great! Again, what might these look like?
Nobody is asking for or even expecting a “neat easy solution on offer tied up in a bow” although I do like the wrapping of Christmas presents. With you, we only seem to get coal in our stockings.
You appear to suffer from never being told you catch more flies with honey than vinegar…..Ive provided numerous links…away you go, or not, it matters not to me.
Of course, I couldn’t remember those “numerous links” that you had allegedly provided, so I checked and could only find 2 in 2 separate comments of yours.
It appears that you are more of a spray-and-walk-away commenter than one who tries to make a genuine contribution by providing clear commentary and explanation to the TS readership.
Im happy to continue providing links as I come across them but am unlikely to author a post for a couple of reasons…the theme is contrary to the accepted narrative here and my writing abilities would not do it service.
Do you want to have pat on the back for each link you’ve posted, Pat? Or do you need more ‘honey’ to sweeten you up? A chocolate fish ok?
Edit: I found one more link to a 1,000-page PDF and 2 YT clips (1:12:37 and 1:19:19 long, respectively).
PS: one of the same YT clips appeared in another comment of yours.
your hubris is great…and you are too lazy to research the information provided (and you appear unable to count)…rather you appear to think if you insult posters enough they will do the work for you.
You can lead an Ass to water but you cannot make it drink
How many more times will you be playing this game of pulling teeth and when will you start to provide some answers without or instead of referring to the alleged state of mind of the one who’s asking simple questions. And when will you stop telling others what they ‘appear’ to be thinking – you are not a mind reader?
The onus is on the poster to help others along with answers to honest questions, at least initially. For example, dumping a link to a 1,000-page (!!) report on a highly specialised and technical topic is not helpful at all, it is disingenuous. In any case, you’re not commenting to and for me per se, you’re commenting to and for a much wider readership.
The derogatory labels and insults are starting to fly hard & fast now. Are you sure that you’re not projecting yourself? Instead of playing the man why don’t you start playing the ball?
You must be parched.
PS: I didn’t count “numerous links”, I counted a few rather unhelpful ones. Thus, I don’t think it is my counting that is the problemo.
Ask yourself this question. If hypothetically one of the fusion research groups – say this one for example – was to deliver cheap, clean and abundant energy tomorrow. And it could be delivered anywhere globally and would give us a real shot at avoiding the worst of the climate crisis.
Do you think this development would actually be welcomed by the anti-capitalist, de-growth, power-down crowd?
Assuming that “the anti-capitalist, de-growth, power-down crowd” is not hypothetical, who is there spokesperson, what is their website, and how much of a cohesive homogeneous crowd is this?
Seeking information from you is like pulling teeth and you know it.
Should I pay you for yet another on-line consult or do you offer this more freely than info when somebody asks for it?
In case your head is swelling, I’m not singling you out and prompt many commenters for links, clarification, and additional explanatory commentary, in Mod notes if necessary. Most are more than happy to oblige without any further prompting or prodding, unlike you, and this lifts the quality of informed robust debate here. You don’t seem to have much interest in playing part in this, and I have seen others running into the same issue with you. Here’s the thing though, I don’t think you’re incapable, I think you’re unwilling, which raises the question what your intentions are when you comment as you do – it seems counterintuitive and contradictory.
A lot of the article I strongly agree with, especially in his opening arguments describing the current situation. I am less on board with his de-growth solution; at first blush it seems to have a lot in common with WEF's Great Reset agenda. But that aside there are two aspects missing from his analysis.
One is that the we are reaching an unprecedented demographic inversion – that because population growth has peaked and will fall over the foreseeable future, this also necessarily spells the end of economic growth as well. And it is not just a case of fewer people – the very nature of the demand from older, more mature people is different. It is possible on these grounds alone that the nature of our resource demand will shift.
Countering this is the excellent Global Wealth Pyramid graphic showing just how uneven current resource consumption is. It is well and good to say the top 700m of humans are consuming wastefully – but even if by the most meticulous central planning and de-growth you halved their consumption, it is but a drop in the bucket compared to the massive un-met needs of the bottom half of humanity. It would be the pinnacle of narcissistic entitlement to demand they live in poverty forever.
The other unspoken element is any global political mechanism to ensure this vision is managed equitably across the entire planet. Such a grand vision is well beyond our current political reach.
Demographics are not the same across the globe. In addition, and related to this, nations (populations) that want/need to catch up will continue and likely even increase the pressure on global resources for the sake of economic growth and claim this as their sovereign right as well as moral imperative. Mind you, if increased frequency of extreme weather events is going to be the norm many areas on the planet will see continued and likely increased poverty.
Such a grand vision is well beyond our current political reach.
So, what do we do in the meantime? Any vision takes imagination and boldness, so where will this be coming from? From our (political) leaders? From visionaries such as Musk or a handful of scholars and thinkers? From grassroots (activists)? And what do all the other ‘ordinary’ people do: watch & wait and BAU, ridicule, resist, or run for the hills?
Fair point – I was generalising. But in broad terms almost all developed nations are now below replacement level – except the African continent. By the end of this century we are facing a population bust. Japan was the first modern nation to get there, but they had the advantage of becoming rich before they became old. Quite a few places might wind up in both conditions, low development and negative growth due to an ageing shrinking population.
Your last para gets a heartfelt agreement from me. It is why I linked to Daniel Schmachtenberger above – the idea of global emergence driven by synchronicity, connection and attraction that will evolve us toward a global society, united in purpose and values across the diversity of humanity. That is my vision, yet when I type it out in big broad strokes like this, shorn of a practical path to get there, no-one buys it. It all seems so removed from the shit and drama we face in the here and now.
Yet we have been here before. In say 1700 chattel slavery was an almost universal condition. No-one thought it was a desirable thing to fall into, but few might imagine a world without it. Yet just a century later the combination of a coal driven Industrial Revolution, and an abolitionist movement founded in the idea that all humans were equal before God, had permanently shifted our thinking.
The combination of an enabling technology, and a moral sentiment tilted toward the unity of the human race – changed everything in an emergent fashion. So why now in 2022 at the pinnacle of our collective insight and capability would we not be able to do this again?
Yes, I know that you have been indefatigably trying to build a bridge between the rather abstract problems and concrete tangible actions and integration into the daily lives of ‘ordinary’ people and I admire you for those efforts even though a sense of frustration seems to be detectable at times.
Indeed, we (i.e. the human race) have been there before, a few times, but perhaps never with the same acute sense of urgency. Unfortunately, it appears to be human reaction to close off during tough/threatening times, which seems to lead to more feelings of isolation and disenfranchisement, which in turn can lead to further disengagement.
We cannot rely on religion to give us moral guidance and instruction, if we ever could. The social contract is not what it used be either. The fact that we have very high homology between DNA, RNA, and protein sequences that indicates shared ancestry and strongly conserved evolutionary traits and high similarity with other species does also not seem to be enough either to realise our interconnectedness with fellow humans in particular and other species with whom we share this planet.
It seems as if the more we know and the more inevitable the conclusion the more resistant we become and the more in denial we act. It seems counterintuitive but I have to conclude it is all but so. No single person can solve these wicked problems, only through trans-disciplinary collective thinking, discussion, and action do we stand a chance to chip a viable path to the future.
Whilst the fundamentalist strains of religion have a negative influence, I don't think it's right to follow the polemic stance of Dawkins and other strident atheists who hold just as tightly to their own narrow fundamentalisms.
There is wisdom and insight in religion, if we see the symbols and meanings rather than the strident legalisms of the moralists and fearmongers. Quoting Richard D. Bartlett:
Take for example the story of the Fall in Genesis, when Adam & Eve are cast out from the Garden of Eden because they ate the forbidden fruit. Idealist philosopher Bernardo Kastrup blew my mind when he suggested you can read this as an allegory of the moment in history when humans developed symbolic thought, 100,000 years after we’d been anatomically modern humans. It’s a story about how we were ripped out of the web of animal instinct when we developed sufficient self-consciousness to be morally culpable for our choices. Suddenly, we gained the “knowledge of good and evil”.
The only way our society has a future is in turning away from our shadow selves and leaning into Love
But on Christmas morning while I was out walking under the soft rain, a narrow beam of sunshine slipped through a gap in the clouds, kissed my forehead and stopped me in my tracks. I shit you not, it happened just like this. I stood there crying in the street with the sun and the rain and the tears on my cheeks. In my head I was retelling my life story for the 6 millionth time, but somehow I popped out of myself and teleported into my Dad’s role. I was seeing the story play out through his eyes. I watched as his hand reached out towards me. I felt the pure love in his heart, and I knew the truth of it. No threat, no neglect, no judgement, only love. I cried because I realised he’s been standing there this whole time, since before I was even born, reaching towards me always only with love.
It is well and good to say the top 700m of humans are consuming wastefully…
"Well and good", and accurate (Sale Alert) – some 'hyperconsume' their way to the grave, resisting moderation with every fibre of their being. The clearly irrational trait of consuming to excess is an abiding mystery. Just because bacteria in a Petri dish do it, doesn't mean sentient humans on spaceship Earth must follow suit – and yet…
It would be the pinnacle of narcissistic entitlement to demand they live in poverty forever.
Can you give examples of these revolting narcissistic entitled people who demand that the 'bottom' half of humanity live in poverty 'forever' – Trump perhaps?
Consider just two adaptive behaviors that Homo sapiens shares with all other species. Humans have an innate propensity to consume available resources – often to depletion – and a parallel drive to invade and colonize all accessible habitats. https://greattransition.org/gti-forum/population-rees
Maybe removing clean energy limitations on civilisation will allow BAU growth of consumers and/or consumption ad infinitum – I sincerely hope there’s time to tell.
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The decision to unilaterally repudiate the contract for new Cook Strait ferries is beginning to look like one of the stupidest decisions a New Zealand government ever made. While cancelling the ferries and their associated port infrastructure may have made this year's books look good, it means higher costs later, ...
Hi there! I’ve been overseas recently, looking after a situation with a family member. So apologies if there any less than focused posts! Vanuatu has just had a significant 7.3 earthquake. Two MFAT staff are unaccounted for with local fatalities.It’s always sad to hear of such things happening.I think of ...
Today is a special member's morning, scheduled to make up for the government's theft of member's days throughout the year. First up was the first reading of Greg Fleming's Crimes (Increased Penalties for Slavery Offences) Amendment Bill, which was passed unanimously. Currently the House is debating the third reading of ...
We're going backwardsIgnoring the realitiesGoing backwardsAre you counting all the casualties?We are not there yetWhere we need to beWe are still in debtTo our insanitiesSongwriter: Martin Gore Read more ...
Willis blamed Treasury for changing its productivity assumptions and Labour’s spending increases since Covid for the worsening Budget outlook. Photo: Getty ImagesMōrena. Long stories short, the six things that matter in Aotearoa’s political economy around housing, climate and poverty on Wednesday, December 18 in The Kākā’s Dawn Chorus podcast above ...
Today the Auckland Transport board meet for the last time this year. For those interested (and with time to spare), you can follow along via this MS Teams link from 10am. I’ve taken a quick look through the agenda items to see what I think the most interesting aspects are. ...
Hi,If you’re a New Zealander — you know who Mike King is. He is the face of New Zealand’s battle against mental health problems. He can be loud and brash. He raises, and is entrusted with, a lot of cash. Last year his “I Am Hope” charity reported a revenue ...
Probably about the only consolation available from yesterday’s unveiling of the Half-Yearly Economic and Fiscal Update (HYEFU) is that it could have been worse. Though Finance Minister Nicola Willis has tightened the screws on future government spending, she has resisted the calls from hard-line academics, fiscal purists and fiscal hawks ...
The right have a stupid saying that is only occasionally true:When is democracy not democracy? When it hasn’t been voted on.While not true in regards to branches of government such as the judiciary, it’s a philosophy that probably should apply to recently-elected local government councillors. Nevertheless, this concept seemed to ...
Long story short: the Government’s austerity policy has driven the economy into a deeper and longer recession that means it will have to borrow $20 billion more over the next four years than it expected just six months ago. Treasury’s latest forecasts show the National-ACT-NZ First Government’s fiscal strategy of ...
Come and join myself and CTU Chief Economist for a pop-up ‘Hoon’ webinar on the Government’s Half Yearly Economic and Fiscal Update (HYEFU) with paying subscribers to The Kākā for 30 minutes at 5 pm today.Jump on this link on YouTube Livestream to watch our chat. Don’t worry if ...
In 1998, in the wake of the Paremoremo Prison riot, the Department of Corrections established the "Behaviour Management Regime". Prisoners were locked in their cells for 22 or 23 hours a day, with no fresh air, no exercise, no social contact, no entertainment, and in some cases no clothes and ...
New data released by the Treasury shows that the economic policies of this Government have made things worse in the year since they took office, said NZCTU Economist Craig Renney. “Our fiscal indicators are all heading in the wrong direction – with higher levels of debt, a higher deficit, and ...
At the 2023 election, National basically ran on a platform of being better economic managers. So how'd that turn out for us? In just one year, they've fucked us for two full political terms: The government's books are set to remain deeply in the red for the near term ...
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The NZCTU Te Kauae Kaimahi are saying that the Government should do the right thing and deliver minimum wage increases that don’t see workers fall further behind, in response to today’s announcement that the minimum wage will only be increased by 1.5%, well short of forecast inflation. “With inflation forecast ...
Oh, I weptFor daysFilled my eyesWith silly tearsOh, yeaBut I don'tCare no moreI don't care ifMy eyes get soreSongwriters: Paul Rodgers / Paul Kossoff. Read more ...
This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections by Bob HensonIn this aerial view, fingers of meltwater flow from the melting Isunnguata Sermia glacier descending from the Greenland Ice Sheet on July 11, 2024, near Kangerlussuaq, Greenland. According to the Programme for Monitoring of the Greenland Ice Sheet (PROMICE), the ...
In August, I wrote an article about David Seymour1 with a video of his testimony, to warn that there were grave dangers to his Ministry of Regulation:David Seymour's Ministry of Slush Hides Far Greater RisksWhy Seymour's exorbitant waste of taxpayers' money could be the least of concernThe money for Seymour ...
Willis is expected to have to reveal the bitter fiscal fruits of her austerity strategy in the HYEFU later today. Photo: Lynn Grieveson/TheKakaMōrena. Long stories short, the six things that matter in Aotearoa’s political economy around housing, climate and poverty on Tuesday, December 17 in The Kākā’s Dawn Chorus podcast ...
On Friday the government announced it would double the number of toll roads in New Zealand as well as make a few other changes to how toll roads are used in the country. The real issue though is not that tolling is being used but the suggestion it will make ...
The Prime Minister yesterday engaged in what looked like a pre-emptive strike designed to counter what is likely to be a series of depressing economic statistics expected before the end of the week. He opened his weekly post-Cabinet press conference with a recitation of the Government’s achievements. “It certainly has ...
This whooping cough story from south Auckland is a good example of the coalition government’s approach to social need – spend money on urging people to get vaccinated but only after you’ve cut the funding to where they could get vaccinated. This has been the case all year with public ...
And if there is a GodI know he likes to rockHe likes his loud guitarsHis spiders from MarsAnd if there is a GodI know he's watching meHe likes what he seesBut there's trouble on the breezeSongwriter: William Patrick Corgan Read more ...
Here’s a quick round up of today’s political news:1. MORE FOOD BANKS, CHARITIES, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SHELTERS AND YOUTH SOCIAL SERVICES SET TO CLOSE OR SCALE BACK AROUND THE COUNTRY AS GOVT CUTS FUNDINGSome of Auckland's largest foodbanks are warning they may need to close or significantly reduce food parcels after ...
Iain Rennie, CNZMSecretary and Chief Executive to the TreasuryDear Secretary, Undue restrictions on restricted briefings This week, the Treasury barred representatives from four organisations, including the New Zealand Council of Trade Unions Te Kauae Kaimahi, from attending the restricted briefing for the Half-Year Economic and Fiscal Update. We had been ...
This is a guest post by Tim Adriaansen, a community, climate, and accessibility advocate.I won’t shut up about climate breakdown, and whenever possible I try to shift the focus of a climate conversation towards solutions. But you’ll almost never hear me give more than a passing nod to ...
A grassroots backlash has forced a backdown from Brown, but he is still eyeing up plenty of tolls for other new roads. And the pressure is on Willis to ramp up the Government’s austerity strategy. Photo: Getty ImagesMōrena. Long stories short, the six things that matter in Aotearoa’s political economy ...
Hi all,I'm pretty overwhelmed by all your messages and emails today; thank you so very much.As much as my newsletter this morning was about money, and we all need to earn money, it was mostly about world domination if I'm honest. 😉I really hate what’s happening to our country, and ...
A listing of 23 news and opinion articles we found interesting and shared on social media during the past week: Sun, December 8, 2024 thru Sat, December 14, 2024. Listing by Category Like last week's summary this one contains the list of articles twice: based on categories and based on ...
I started writing this morning about Hobson’s Pledge, examining the claims they and their supporters make, basically ripping into them. But I kept getting notifications coming through, and not good ones.Each time I looked up, there was another un-subscription message, and I felt a bit sicker at the thought of ...
Once, long before there was Harry and Meghan and Dodi and all those episodes of The Crown, they came to spend some time with us, Charles and Diana. Was there anyone in the world more glamorous than the Princess of Wales?Dazzled as everyone was by their company, the leader of ...
The collective right have a problem.The entire foundation for their world view is antiscientific. Their preferred economic strategies have been disproven. Their whole neoliberal model faces accusations of corporate corruption and worsening inequality. Climate change not only definitely exists, its rapid progression demands an immediate and expensive response in order ...
Just ten days ago, South Korea's president attempted a self-coup, declaring martial law and attempting to have opposition MPs murdered or arrested in an effort to seize unconstrained power. The attempt was rapidly defeated by the national assembly voting it down and the people flooding the streets to defend democracy. ...
Hi,“What I love about New Zealanders is that sometimes you use these expressions that as Americans we have no idea what those things mean!"I am watching a 30-something year old American ramble on about how different New Zealanders are to Americans. It’s his podcast, and this man is doing a ...
What Chris Penk has granted holocaust-denier and equal-opportunity-bigot Candace Owens is not “freedom of speech”. It’s not even really freedom of movement, though that technically is the right she has been granted. What he has given her is permission to perform. Freedom of SpeechIn New Zealand, the right to freedom ...
All those tears on your cheeksJust like deja vu flow nowWhen grandmother speaksSo tell me a story (I'll tell you a story)Spell it out, I can't hear (What do you want to hear?)Why you wear black in the morning?Why there's smoke in the air? Songwriter: Greg Johnson.Mōrena all ☀️Something a ...
National has only been in power for a year, but everywhere you look, its choices are taking New Zealand a long way backwards. In no particular order, here are the National Government's Top 50 Greatest Misses of its first year in power. ...
The Government is quietly undertaking consultation on the dangerous Regulatory Standards Bill over the Christmas period to avoid too much attention. ...
The Government’s planned changes to the freedom of speech obligations of universities is little more than a front for stoking the political fires of disinformation and fear, placing teachers and students in the crosshairs. ...
The Ministry of Regulation’s report into Early Childhood Education (ECE) in Aotearoa raises serious concerns about the possibility of lowering qualification requirements, undermining quality and risking worse outcomes for tamariki, whānau, and kaiako. ...
A Bill to modernise the role of Justices of the Peace (JP), ensuring they remain active in their communities and connected with other JPs, has been put into the ballot. ...
Labour will continue to fight unsustainable and destructive projects that are able to leap-frog environment protection under National’s Fast-track Approvals Bill. ...
The Green Party has warned that a Green Government will revoke the consents of companies who override environmental protections as part of Fast-Track legislation being passed today. ...
The Green Party says the Half Year Economic and Fiscal Update shows how the Government is failing to address the massive social and infrastructure deficits our country faces. ...
The Government’s latest move to reduce the earnings of migrant workers will not only hurt migrants but it will drive down the wages of Kiwi workers. ...
Te Pāti Māori has this morning issued a stern warning to Fast-Track applicants with interests in mining, pledging to hold them accountable through retrospective liability and to immediately revoke Fast-Track consents under a future Te Pāti Māori government. This warning comes ahead of today’s third reading of the Fast-Track Approvals ...
The Government’s announcement today of a 1.5 per cent increase to minimum wage is another blow for workers, with inflation projected to exceed the increase, meaning it’s a real terms pay reduction for many. ...
All the Government has achieved from its announcement today is to continue to push responsibility back on councils for its own lack of action to help bring down skyrocketing rates. ...
The Government has used its final post-Cabinet press conference of the year to punch down on local government without offering any credible solutions to the issues our councils are facing. ...
The Government has failed to keep its promise to ‘super charge’ the EV network, delivering just 292 chargers - less than half of the 670 chargers needed to meet its target. ...
The Green Party is calling for the Government to stop subsidising the largest user of the country’s gas supplies, Methanex, following a report highlighting the multi-national’s disproportionate influence on energy prices in Aotearoa. ...
The Green Party is appalled with the Government’s new child poverty targets that are based on a new ‘persistent poverty’ measure that could be met even with an increase in child poverty. ...
New independent analysis has revealed that the Government’s Emissions Reduction Plan (ERP) will reduce emissions by a measly 1 per cent by 2030, failing to set us up for the future and meeting upcoming targets. ...
The loss of 27 kaimahi at Whakaata Māori and the end of its daily news bulletin is a sad day for Māori media and another step backwards for Te Tiriti o Waitangi justice. ...
Yesterday the Government passed cruel legislation through first reading to establish a new beneficiary sanction regime that will ultimately mean more households cannot afford the basic essentials. ...
Today's passing of the Government's Residential Tenancies Amendment Bill–which allows landlords to end tenancies with no reason–ignores the voice of the people and leaves renters in limbo ahead of the festive season. ...
After wasting a year, Nicola Willis has delivered a worse deal for the Cook Strait ferries that will end up being more expensive and take longer to arrive. ...
Green Party co-leader Chlöe Swarbrick has today launched a Member’s Bill to sanction Israel for its unlawful presence in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, as the All Out For Gaza rally reaches Parliament. ...
After years of advocacy, the Green Party is very happy to hear the Government has listened to our collective voices and announced the closure of the greyhound racing industry, by 1 August 2026. ...
In response to a new report from ERO, the Government has acknowledged the urgent need for consistency across the curriculum for Relationship and Sexuality Education (RSE) in schools. ...
The Green Party is appalled at the Government introducing legislation that will make it easier to penalise workers fighting for better pay and conditions. ...
Thank you for the invitation to speak with you tonight on behalf of the political party I belong to - which is New Zealand First. As we have heard before this evening the Kinleith Mill is proposing to reduce operations by focusing on pulp and discontinuing “lossmaking paper production”. They say that they are currently consulting on the plan to permanently shut ...
Auckland Central MP, Chlöe Swarbrick, has written to Mayor Wayne Brown requesting he stop the unnecessary delays on St James Theatre’s restoration. ...
Health Minister Dr Shane Reti says Health New Zealand will move swiftly to support dozens of internationally-trained doctors already in New Zealand on their journey to employment here, after a tripling of sought-after examination places. “The Medical Council has delivered great news for hardworking overseas doctors who want to contribute ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has appointed Sarah Ottrey to the APEC Business Advisory Council (ABAC). “At my first APEC Summit in Lima, I experienced firsthand the role that ABAC plays in guaranteeing political leaders hear the voice of business,” Mr Luxon says. “New Zealand’s ABAC representatives are very well respected and ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has announced four appointments to New Zealand’s intelligence oversight functions. The Honourable Robert Dobson KC has been appointed Chief Commissioner of Intelligence Warrants, and the Honourable Brendan Brown KC has been appointed as a Commissioner of Intelligence Warrants. The appointments of Hon Robert Dobson and Hon ...
Improvements in the average time it takes to process survey and title applications means housing developments can progress more quickly, Minister for Land Information Chris Penk says. “The government is resolutely focused on improving the building and construction pipeline,” Mr Penk says. “Applications to issue titles and subdivide land are ...
The Government’s measures to reduce airport wait times, and better transparency around flight disruptions is delivering encouraging early results for passengers ahead of the busy summer period, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “Improving the efficiency of air travel is a priority for the Government to give passengers a smoother, more reliable ...
The Government today announced the intended closure of the Apollo Hotel as Contracted Emergency Housing (CEH) in Rotorua, Associate Housing Minister Tama Potaka says. This follows a 30 per cent reduction in the number of households in CEH in Rotorua since National came into Government. “Our focus is on ending CEH in the Whakarewarewa area starting ...
The Government will reshape vocational education and training to return decision making to regions and enable greater industry input into work-based learning Tertiary Education and Skills Minister, Penny Simmonds says. “The redesigned system will better meet the needs of learners, industry, and the economy. It includes re-establishing regional polytechnics that ...
The Government is taking action to better manage synthetic refrigerants and reduce emissions caused by greenhouse gases found in heating and cooling products, Environment Minister Penny Simmonds says. “Regulations will be drafted to support a product stewardship scheme for synthetic refrigerants, Ms. Simmonds says. “Synthetic refrigerants are found in a ...
People travelling on State Highway 1 north of Hamilton will be relieved that remedial works and safety improvements on the Ngāruawāhia section of the Waikato Expressway were finished today, with all lanes now open to traffic, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says.“I would like to acknowledge the patience of road users ...
Tertiary Education and Skills Minister, Penny Simmonds, has announced a new appointment to the board of Education New Zealand (ENZ). Dr Erik Lithander has been appointed as a new member of the ENZ board for a three-year term until 30 January 2028. “I would like to welcome Dr Erik Lithander to the ...
The Government will have senior representatives at Waitangi Day events around the country, including at the Waitangi Treaty Grounds, but next year Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has chosen to take part in celebrations elsewhere. “It has always been my intention to celebrate Waitangi Day around the country with different ...
Two more criminal gangs will be subject to the raft of laws passed by the Coalition Government that give Police more powers to disrupt gang activity, and the intimidation they impose in our communities, Police Minister Mark Mitchell says. Following an Order passed by Cabinet, from 3 February 2025 the ...
Attorney-General Judith Collins today announced the appointment of Justice Christian Whata as a Judge of the Court of Appeal. Justice Whata’s appointment as a Judge of the Court of Appeal will take effect on 1 August 2025 and fill a vacancy created by the retirement of Hon Justice David Goddard on ...
The latest economic figures highlight the importance of the steps the Government has taken to restore respect for taxpayers’ money and drive economic growth, Finance Minister Nicola Willis says. Data released today by Stats NZ shows Gross Domestic Product fell 1 per cent in the September quarter. “Treasury and most ...
Tertiary Education and Skills Minister Penny Simmonds and Associate Minister of Education David Seymour today announced legislation changes to strengthen freedom of speech obligations on universities. “Freedom of speech is fundamental to the concept of academic freedom and there is concern that universities seem to be taking a more risk-averse ...
Police Minister, Mark Mitchell, and Internal Affairs Minister, Brooke van Velden, today launched a further Public Safety Network cellular service that alongside last year’s Cellular Roaming roll-out, puts globally-leading cellular communications capability into the hands of our emergency responders. The Public Safety Network’s new Cellular Priority service means Police, Wellington ...
State Highway 1 through the Mangamuka Gorge has officially reopened today, providing a critical link for Northlanders and offering much-needed relief ahead of the busy summer period, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says.“The Mangamuka Gorge is a vital route for Northland, carrying around 1,300 vehicles per day and connecting the Far ...
The Government has welcomed decisions by the NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) and Ashburton District Council confirming funding to boost resilience in the Canterbury region, with construction on a second Ashburton Bridge expected to begin in 2026, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “Delivering a second Ashburton Bridge to improve resilience and ...
The Government is backing the response into high pathogenic avian influenza (HPAI) in Otago, Biosecurity Minister Andrew Hoggard says. “Cabinet has approved new funding of $20 million to enable MPI to meet unbudgeted ongoing expenses associated with the H7N6 response including rigorous scientific testing of samples at the enhanced PC3 ...
Legislation that will repeal all advertising restrictions for broadcasters on Sundays and public holidays has passed through first reading in Parliament today, Media Minister Paul Goldsmith says. “As a growing share of audiences get their news and entertainment from streaming services, these restrictions have become increasingly redundant. New Zealand on ...
Today the House agreed to Brendan Horsley being appointed Inspector-General of Defence, Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith says. “Mr Horsley’s experience will be invaluable in overseeing the establishment of the new office and its support networks. “He is currently Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security, having held that role since June 2020. ...
Minister of Internal Affairs Brooke van Velden says the Government has agreed to the final regulations for the levy on insurance contracts that will fund Fire and Emergency New Zealand from July 2026. “Earlier this year the Government agreed to a 2.2 percent increase to the rate of levy. Fire ...
The Government is delivering regulatory relief for New Zealand businesses through changes to the Anti-Money Laundering and Countering Financing of Terrorism Act. “The Anti-Money Laundering and Countering Financing of Terrorism Amendment Bill, which was introduced today, is the second Bill – the other being the Statutes Amendment Bill - that ...
Transport Minister Simeon Brown has welcomed further progress on the Hawke’s Bay Expressway Road of National Significance (RoNS), with the NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) Board approving funding for the detailed design of Stage 1, paving the way for main works construction to begin in late 2025.“The Government is moving at ...
The Government today released a request for information (RFI) to seeking interest in partnerships to plant trees on Crown-owned land with low farming and conservation value (excluding National Parks) Forestry Minister Todd McClay announced. “Planting trees on Crown-owned land will drive economic growth by creating more forestry jobs in our regions, providing more wood ...
Court timeliness, access to justice, and improving the quality of existing regulation are the focus of a series of law changes introduced to Parliament today by Associate Minister of Justice Nicole McKee. The three Bills in the Regulatory Systems (Justice) Amendment Bill package each improve a different part of the ...
A total of 41 appointments and reappointments have been made to the 12 community trusts around New Zealand that serve their regions, Associate Finance Minister Shane Jones says. “These trusts, and the communities they serve from the Far North to the deep south, will benefit from the rich experience, knowledge, ...
The Government has confirmed how it will provide redress to survivors who were tortured at the Lake Alice Psychiatric Hospital Child and Adolescent Unit (the Lake Alice Unit). “The Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in Care found that many of the 362 children who went through the Lake Alice Unit between 1972 and ...
It has been a busy, productive year in the House as the coalition Government works hard to get New Zealand back on track, Leader of the House Chris Bishop says. “This Government promised to rebuild the economy, restore law and order and reduce the cost of living. Our record this ...
“Accelerated silicosis is an emerging occupational disease caused by unsafe work such as engineered stone benchtops. I am running a standalone consultation on engineered stone to understand what the industry is currently doing to manage the risks, and whether further regulatory intervention is needed,” says Workplace Relations and Safety Minister ...
Mehemea he pai mō te tangata, mahia – if it’s good for the people, get on with it. Enhanced reporting on the public sector’s delivery of Treaty settlement commitments will help improve outcomes for Māori and all New Zealanders, Māori Crown Relations Minister Tama Potaka says. Compiled together for the ...
Mr Roger Holmes Miller and Ms Tarita Hutchinson have been appointed to the Charities Registration Board, Community and Voluntary Sector Minister Louise Upston says. “I would like to welcome the new members joining the Charities Registration Board. “The appointment of Ms Hutchinson and Mr Miller will strengthen the Board’s capacity ...
More building consent and code compliance applications are being processed within the statutory timeframe since the Government required councils to submit quarterly data, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “In the midst of a housing shortage we need to look at every step of the build process for efficiencies ...
Mental Health Minister Matt Doocey is proud to announce the first three recipients of the Government’s $10 million Mental Health and Addiction Community Sector Innovation Fund which will enable more Kiwis faster access to mental health and addiction support. “This fund is part of the Government’s commitment to investing in ...
New Zealand is providing Vanuatu assistance following yesterday's devastating earthquake, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says. "Vanuatu is a member of our Pacific family and we are supporting it in this time of acute need," Mr Peters says. "Our thoughts are with the people of Vanuatu, and we will be ...
The Government welcomes the Commerce Commission’s plan to reduce card fees for Kiwis by an estimated $260 million a year, Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Andrew Bayly says.“The Government is relentlessly focused on reducing the cost of living, so Kiwis can keep more of their hard-earned income and live a ...
Regulation Minister David Seymour has welcomed the Early Childhood Education (ECE) regulatory review report, the first major report from the Ministry for Regulation. The report makes 15 recommendations to modernise and simplify regulations across ECE so services can get on with what they do best – providing safe, high-quality care ...
The Government‘s Offshore Renewable Energy Bill to create a new regulatory regime that will enable firms to construct offshore wind generation has passed its first reading in Parliament, Energy Minister Simeon Brown says.“New Zealand currently does not have a regulatory regime for offshore renewable energy as the previous government failed ...
Legislation to enable new water service delivery models that will drive critical investment in infrastructure has passed its first reading in Parliament, marking a significant step towards the delivery of Local Water Done Well, Local Government Minister Simeon Brown and Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Andrew Bayly say.“Councils and voters ...
New Zealand is one step closer to reaping the benefits of gene technology with the passing of the first reading of the Gene Technology Bill, Science, Innovation and Technology Minister Judith Collins says. "This legislation will end New Zealand's near 30-year ban on gene technology outside the lab and is ...
Te Pāti Māori has had to adopt a new way of debating, operating and even thinking in Parliament in response to the Government’s “onslaught” against te ao Māori, co-leader Debbie Ngarewa-Packer says.In an end-of-year interview with Newsroom, the Te Tai Hauauru MP reflected on how 2024 has differed from her ...
Opinion: The latest Trends in International Mathematics and Science report was announced earlier this month, yet it didn’t get the flurry of media attention and political hand-wringing that typically accompanies these announcements. This might be because it presented good news, or you could argue, no news; the results paint a ...
NewsroomBy Dr Lisa Darragh, Dr Raewyn Eden and Dr David Pomeroy
At long last, The Spinoff shells out for a nut ranking. The Spinoff needs to double the number of paying members we have to continue telling these kinds of stories. Please read our open letter and sign up to be a member today.It recently came to The Spinoff’s attention ...
I was one of hundreds of people who lost my government job this week. Here’s exactly how it played out. The Spinoff needs to double the number of paying members we have to continue telling these kinds of stories. Please read our open letter and sign up to be a ...
Summer reissue: One anxiously attentive passenger pays attention to an in-flight safety video, and wonders ‘Why can’t I pick up my own phone?’ The Spinoff needs to double the number of paying members we have to continue telling these kinds of stories. Please read our open letter and sign up ...
Summer reissue: Why do those Lange-Douglas years cast such a long shadow 40 years on? The Spinoff needs to double the number of paying members we have to continue telling these kinds of stories. Please read our open letter and sign up to be a member today. First published June ...
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The Government’s social housing agency has backed out of a billion-dollar infrastructure alliance that would have built about 6000 new homes in Auckland – less than 18 months after signing a five-year extension.Labour says the decision to rip up the contract and sell off existing state houses could lead to ...
ByKoroi Hawkins, RNZ Pacific editor New Zealand’s Urban Search and Rescue (USAR) says impending bad weather for Port Vila is now the most significant post-quake hazard. A tropical low in the Coral Sea is expected to move into Vanuatu waters, bringing heavy rainfall. Authorities have issued warnings to people ...
Cosmic CatastropheThe year draws to a close.King Luxon has grown tired of the long eveningsListening to the dreary squabbling of his Triumvirate.He strolls up to the top floor of the PalaceTo consult with his Astronomer Royal.The Royal Telescope scans the skies,And King Luxon stares up into the heavensFrom the terrestrial ...
Spinoff editor Mad Chapman and books editor Claire Mabey debate Carl Shuker’s new novel about… an editor. Claire: Hello Mad, you just finished The Royal Free – overall impressions? Mad: Hi Claire, I literally just put the book down and I would have to say my immediate impression is ...
Christmas and its buildup are often lonely, hard and full of unreasonable expectations. Here’s how to make it to Jesus’s birthday and find the little bit of joy we all deserve. Have you found this year relentless? Has the latest Apple update “fucked up your life”? Have you lost two ...
Despite overwhelming public and corporate support, the government has stalled progress on a modern day slavery law. That puts us behind other countries – and makes Christmas a time of tragedy rather than joy, argues Shanti Mathias. Picture the scene on Christmas Day. Everyone replete with nice things to eat, ...
Asia Pacific Report “It looks like Hiroshima. It looks like Germany at the end of World War Two,” says an Israeli-American historian and professor of holocaust and genocide studies at Brown University about the horrifying reality of Gaza. Professor Omer Bartov, has described Israel’s ongoing war on Gaza as an ...
The New Zealand government coalition is tweaking university regulations to curb what it says is an increasingly “risk-averse approach” to free speech. The proposed changes will set clear expectations on how universities should approach freedom of speech issues. Each university will then have to adopt a “freedom of speech statement” ...
Report by Dr David Robie – Café Pacific. – COMMENTARY: By Caitlin Johnstone New York prosecutors have charged Luigi Mangione with “murder as an act of terrorism” in his alleged shooting of health insurance CEO Brian Thompson earlier this month. This news comes out at the same time as ...
Pacific Media Watch The union for Australian journalists has welcomed the delivery by the federal government of more than $150 million to support the sustainability of public interest journalism over the next four years. Combined with the announcement of the revamped News Bargaining Initiative, this could result in up to ...
MONDAY“Merry Xmas, and praise the Lord,” said Sheriff Luxon, and smiled for the camera. There was a flash of smoke when the shutter pressed down on the magnesium powder. The sheriff had arranged for a photographer from the Dodge Gazette to attend a ceremony where he handed out food parcels to ...
It’s a little under two months since the White Ferns shocked the cricketing world, deservedly taking home the T20 World Cup. Since then the trophy has had a tour around the country, five of the squad have played in the WBBL in Australia while most others have returned to domestic ...
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Pussy Riot anti-war rap as a Christmas present to all the pro-war imperialist scumbags.
Yawn. Ho hum.
I am feel sorry for you Mikesh, that you find Russian anti-war political activists a yawn.
Maybe you prefer some blood thirsty pro-war Russian song.
Or maybe you only think that the Pussy Riot anti-war rap is "ho hum" because you don't have to suffer the grief of living in exile away from your homeland and family like they have to, where if they were at home they could get 15 years in jail for their words or songs.
Or maybe it is because you can't understand their Russian lyrics that you are bored.
So here they are. Just for you. An amended version with subtitles in English so you can understand it.
[deleted long lyrics]
[The complete English “Lyrycs” are in initial link @ 1. There’s no need to dump a long copy & pasta here to force another commenter who clearly is less receptive to read it and/or view the YT clip and for others to have to scroll past. If you insist on incessantly forcing your own personal views on others perhaps it is time you start your own blog – Incognito]
Mod note
My bad, I hadn't noticed that the lyrics were in the thread. And so painstakingly transcribed them.
Sorry about that.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/motoring/300769965/hundreds-of-millions-in-contractors-claims-delay-aucklands-holiday-highway
Company's that's about 7 months behind want massive compensation for 5 week covid delay. That fletcher is involved doesn't surprise
Interesting to see that the cost has already sneaked over a billion. Could have restored Northland’s entire rail system for that, plus the planned link to Northport.
As someone totally into Sustainable Transport…this is really so aggravating. Just gotta wonder wtf ? 2020 Ongoing……..
The answer is there….but still pouring vast amounts of money into unsustainable transport roading
https://twitter.com/Ukraine/status/1607067227253272576
[image resized – Incognito]
There is some funny satire in Stuff, Damien Grant says it was time not to sound off about what the lone libertarian sees was wrong with the world … then does a swordfish profile of any and all politicians.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/130848645/damien-grant-even-contrarians-deserve-a-happy-christmas
A good article by Jack Santa Barbara although it doesn’t seem to offer any new insights and/or ideas although I’m hardly an expert.
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/give-progress-a-chance-embrace-degrowth
"But degrowth is totally different from a recession or a government austerity program. It involves a carefully planned and managed reduction of less necessary and undesirable economic activities, and increase in activities supporting wellbeing and living within planetary boundaries. Degrowth is about reducing energy and raw material use to sustainable levels, and improving the quality of life for all."
But does it offer 'it' for 8 billion?….that is the argument unaddressed.
Of course, there are many unaddressed arguments and unanswered questions because of the sheer nature and complexity of the issue and the stage it is at. However, I’d say yes, this is the implicit premise and requirement for any adequate and appropriate policy and implementation plan at all levels & scales involved aka multi-lateral international approach. Given that many nations are at quite different levels of (socio-economic) development and political freedom and engagement, and given that there will be many internal (political) barriers, it might seem that even thinking about addressing these issues is pie-in-the-sky stuff that makes for excellent thought experiments in Philosophy departments.
Do you have any foundational problems with what is posited in the article and the current thinking about these issues, e.g., are they non-issues in your opinion? Are you simply pointing out the holes & gaps? Do you have any ideas for possible approaches or solutions to offer?
My wish for the NY is fewer Gosman-like comments (aka interminable questioning and sealioning) and more constructive debate. Many a contrarian tries to bog down debate in pedantic nitpicking and almost absurd what-if scenarios, none of which is remotely helpful unless the aim is to score a few laughs among the likeminded.
You might like this then:
(I would prefer it just as a transcript because I find the video adds little value in this case.)
Thanks. The transcript was ok after removing the 347 paragraph marks and adding some necessary punctuation. It reminded me strongly of The Complementary Nature by Engstrøm and Kelso with a few Jungian themes.
While I ‘liked’ it, I fail to see how this grants my NY’s ‘wish’.
Good – and that is the kind of direction I would like the discussion to take as well. That would be my NY wish.
But sadly social media seems to mitigate against this wish terribly. The physical remove and anonymous nature of the connection eliminates the social feedback; we cannot see in real time the look on a persons face or body language that would normally be clues to moderate behaviour. There is little consequence to attention-seeking, narcissistic and self-aggrandising aggressive behaviour; with a ready resort to sneering derision, contempt and even disgust.
Even with the best moderation, the game seems chronically tilted in this direction.
Social media have been around for a while now and so has TS. The limitations/restrictions (but also the possibilities) are nothing new. It is my observation, one that seems to be shared with others, that the nature of comments/interactions on SM have hardened and become harsher, less tolerant and more aggressive, and even more threatening and violent in some cases. There is a plethora of articles and opinion pieces on this unfortunate development, the apparent escalation of which may coincide with the Covid-19 pandemic. (NB the pandemic is still raging!)
As I said earlier today, the TS commentariat has a critical (self-)moderating role to play in the discourse on this forum. This ranges from DNFTT to calling out and challenging others to put their best arguments forward in open/public debate in good faith that is based on mutual trust and respect.
Your YT link touches on this behaviour in a very general and is by no means a blueprint – the process might be messy, dirty, and ugly even aka robust debate but the intended outcome is all worth it.
Because the commentariat is a collective, not every commenter has to be on his/her best behaviour all the time, it is simply not possible, but also not required. As with all collectives and collective actions, such as the science system, self-correction is fundamental for good functioning and achieving desired and positive outcomes in the short and medium term and longer-term impacts for the greater good.
However, each collective and commentariat has a tipping point where discourse and action flip from net benefit to net polarising, divisive, and exclusionary aka rabbit hole and/or echo chamber. I believe that we have moved closer to this tipping point hence my NY’s wish.
I have a multitude of issues with the premise…not least of which is energy.
Michaux has determined that we are a world that consumes approx 19 terawatts of power to provide for our population and that we can at best hope for a 10 terawatt world in the near term though more likely a 5 terawatt world…and he is one of the few who has taken the time to calculate it….that suggests a sustainable population around 25% of current which is not too far removed from the pre industrial plateau of around 1 billion if you allow a premium for some energy use that wasnt available prior….the question , as always . is how we get there from here ….and all indications are we will do it the way humans have always done…messily, if we manage it at all.
Agreed. I have taken the time to read Michaux in more detail this past few days and I agree with his core numbers; it was absolutely worth the time to pick through his report. (I cannot claim to have lingered carefully over every page however.)
We consistently underestimate the magnitude of the task to transition off fossil fuels. And those who argue we can just economise our way out of the problem are not properly appreciating what we are up against either. Nor how deeply interconnected all the parts of the industrial eco-system are. Advanced mRNA vaccines for instance, are a pinnacle product of an immensely complex supply and technology chain (the story of all the elements necessary for their design, production and distribution alone would fill many volumes of notes.) Taking an arbitrary axe to any single part of the system would have unintended consequences galore.
As a first approximation, if you want us to consume per capita energy at 1950's levels, then 1950's technology is the base assumption that accompanies this. And all the social conditions that went with this. (Woke ideologies being a luxury belief only wealthy people can afford to indulge in.)
Indeed, but who’s even proposing this?? It’s certainly not in the article that I linked to, quite the opposite in fact.
Yet the demand goes quite the other way. In order to bring the other 7b people into modernity alone – at current consumption levels would require maybe 5x more energy – 95 terawatts. Even if we halved the current per capita energy intensity to get people fully into modernity, that still comes to a staggering 50 terawatts.
No matter how you cut it, SWB renewables alone do not even touch the sides of this immense number in the long run. Even with a heroic rollout of Gen 4 nuclear 50tW would be an immense challenge – but not as impossible. The only known long term technology that is capable of delivering is nuclear fusion, but we cannot yet predict when it will be available at the required scale.
Which is why I argue for a mix of SWB (in locations where it makes economic sense), and nuclear fission as a phased progression. The existing SWB rollout bridges over the next decade to Gen 4 fission, which in turn bridges over the next century or so to fusion. (We have seen a similar progression within fossil fuels themselves, from coal, to oil and then gas.)
I would not claim this to be easy, but at least it is feasible.
As said to roblogic last week we may eventually develop fusion but that will require a (high level) functioning society….which is by no means guaranteed.
The foundational premise of the article is this:
You reject this?
If Michaux has done those calculations, as you say, then what does he propose we do and how? What alternative suggestions are out there that are more palatable (aka realistic) to you and presumably to the majority of people who are all in the same boat whether they know it, like it, or want it?
If one rejects the foundational premise, then the question is moot.
If you read what i wrote you note I never rejected the premise that unlimited economic growth is neither sustainable nor desired, I did pose the question of how it is proposed we move from the unsustainable to the sustainable (in two seperate instances)….far from being moot it is fundamentally important.
Good!
However, you wrote that you “have a multitude of issues with the premise”.
I find your comments invariably ambiguous hence the simple question to you, to remove ambiguity and gain clarity – talking past each other is such a waste of good time.
It seems we and many others are asking the same or similar questions based on the same or similar premises. However, ideas for moving forward seem to be scant supply. Since you seem to be willing to accept his premises, what does Michaux suggest if anything?
"It seems we and many others are asking the same or similar questions based on the same or similar premises. However, ideas for moving forward seem to be scant supply. Since you seem to be willing to accept his premises, what does Michaux suggest if anything?'
Unfortunately that is not the case….(too) many are not asking that question and the point of drawing attention to Michaux's work is to demonstrate that much of what is proposed as solution is not.
His observation is we will have less, whether by choice or imposition ….how we deal with that fact is for us to decide, but the first step is acceptance.
That sounds like ‘intellectual cowardice’ to me. In other words, he [Michaux] apparently forecasts and points to doom ‘here it is folks, suck it up’ and then washes his hands off it. For example, when Shaun Hendy and his colleagues modelled the data at the time, they found an upper predicted probability of 80,000 deaths in NZ due to Covid-19. However, they ran mitigating scenarios and made plenty of suggestions to implement as public health measures. In other words, they were highly instrumental in finding solutions and didn’t stay at the sidelines letting others do the heavy lifting. That seems to be missing with Michaux – there are too many ‘influencers’ and YouTubers pretending to be public intellectuals already and they’re often poorly understood and/or misrepresented here on TS in (selective) quotes and clip-dumps.
I know the above sounds unduly harsh, so I looked up his website and to give him credit, he seems aware of this/his limitation.
https://www.simonmichaux.com/ [first time this link appears on TS; so much for drawing attention to his work]
Further down it reads:
This sounds more promising than my initial superficial impression of Michaux based on your comments so far. I’ll leave it to others who have read more of his stuff to add more to this or not.
You are projecting your own emotive response upon Michaux's work.
In seeking solutions he discovered a dearth of information, gathered that information, analysed it and drew conclusions.
He has indicated the likely path of solution but the detail will likely be bespoke…what may work for one economy/location may nor be applicable/possible/desireable in another.
and all of the (potential) solutions will likely be uncomfortable in a political sense…..there is no neat easy solution on offer tied up in a bow.
Michaux sounds like quite an intellectual tour de force.
Excellent! So, why don’t you give us an illustration?
Great! Again, what might these look like?
Nobody is asking for or even expecting a “neat easy solution on offer tied up in a bow” although I do like the wrapping of Christmas presents. With you, we only seem to get coal in our stockings.
You appear to suffer from never being told you catch more flies with honey than vinegar…..Ive provided numerous links…away you go, or not, it matters not to me.
You have??
Of course, I couldn’t remember those “numerous links” that you had allegedly provided, so I checked and could only find 2 in 2 separate comments of yours.
It appears that you are more of a spray-and-walk-away commenter than one who tries to make a genuine contribution by providing clear commentary and explanation to the TS readership.
In fact, you said as much here (https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-26-05-2022/#comment-1890435):
Do you want to have pat on the back for each link you’ve posted, Pat? Or do you need more ‘honey’ to sweeten you up? A chocolate fish ok?
Edit: I found one more link to a 1,000-page PDF and 2 YT clips (1:12:37 and 1:19:19 long, respectively).
PS: one of the same YT clips appeared in another comment of yours.
your hubris is great…and you are too lazy to research the information provided (and you appear unable to count)…rather you appear to think if you insult posters enough they will do the work for you.
You can lead an Ass to water but you cannot make it drink
How many more times will you be playing this game of pulling teeth and when will you start to provide some answers without or instead of referring to the alleged state of mind of the one who’s asking simple questions. And when will you stop telling others what they ‘appear’ to be thinking – you are not a mind reader?
The onus is on the poster to help others along with answers to honest questions, at least initially. For example, dumping a link to a 1,000-page (!!) report on a highly specialised and technical topic is not helpful at all, it is disingenuous. In any case, you’re not commenting to and for me per se, you’re commenting to and for a much wider readership.
The derogatory labels and insults are starting to fly hard & fast now. Are you sure that you’re not projecting yourself? Instead of playing the man why don’t you start playing the ball?
You must be parched.
PS: I didn’t count “numerous links”, I counted a few rather unhelpful ones. Thus, I don’t think it is my counting that is the problemo.
@Incog
Ask yourself this question. If hypothetically one of the fusion research groups – say this one for example – was to deliver cheap, clean and abundant energy tomorrow. And it could be delivered anywhere globally and would give us a real shot at avoiding the worst of the climate crisis.
Do you think this development would actually be welcomed by the anti-capitalist, de-growth, power-down crowd?
That’s a shedload of hypotheticals!
Assuming that “the anti-capitalist, de-growth, power-down crowd” is not hypothetical, who is there spokesperson, what is their website, and how much of a cohesive homogeneous crowd is this?
Getting a straight answer from you is like pulling teeth and you know it.
It is evident you have more interest in posturing than seeking information that may lead to solutions despite claims to the contrary.
You can continue stroking your ego with someone else.
Seeking information from you is like pulling teeth and you know it.
Should I pay you for yet another on-line consult or do you offer this more freely than info when somebody asks for it?
In case your head is swelling, I’m not singling you out and prompt many commenters for links, clarification, and additional explanatory commentary, in Mod notes if necessary. Most are more than happy to oblige without any further prompting or prodding, unlike you, and this lifts the quality of informed robust debate here. You don’t seem to have much interest in playing part in this, and I have seen others running into the same issue with you. Here’s the thing though, I don’t think you’re incapable, I think you’re unwilling, which raises the question what your intentions are when you comment as you do – it seems counterintuitive and contradictory.
A lot of the article I strongly agree with, especially in his opening arguments describing the current situation. I am less on board with his de-growth solution; at first blush it seems to have a lot in common with WEF's Great Reset agenda. But that aside there are two aspects missing from his analysis.
One is that the we are reaching an unprecedented demographic inversion – that because population growth has peaked and will fall over the foreseeable future, this also necessarily spells the end of economic growth as well. And it is not just a case of fewer people – the very nature of the demand from older, more mature people is different. It is possible on these grounds alone that the nature of our resource demand will shift.
Countering this is the excellent Global Wealth Pyramid graphic showing just how uneven current resource consumption is. It is well and good to say the top 700m of humans are consuming wastefully – but even if by the most meticulous central planning and de-growth you halved their consumption, it is but a drop in the bucket compared to the massive un-met needs of the bottom half of humanity. It would be the pinnacle of narcissistic entitlement to demand they live in poverty forever.
The other unspoken element is any global political mechanism to ensure this vision is managed equitably across the entire planet. Such a grand vision is well beyond our current political reach.
Demographics are not the same across the globe. In addition, and related to this, nations (populations) that want/need to catch up will continue and likely even increase the pressure on global resources for the sake of economic growth and claim this as their sovereign right as well as moral imperative. Mind you, if increased frequency of extreme weather events is going to be the norm many areas on the planet will see continued and likely increased poverty.
So, what do we do in the meantime? Any vision takes imagination and boldness, so where will this be coming from? From our (political) leaders? From visionaries such as Musk or a handful of scholars and thinkers? From grassroots (activists)? And what do all the other ‘ordinary’ people do: watch & wait and BAU, ridicule, resist, or run for the hills?
Fair point – I was generalising. But in broad terms almost all developed nations are now below replacement level – except the African continent. By the end of this century we are facing a population bust. Japan was the first modern nation to get there, but they had the advantage of becoming rich before they became old. Quite a few places might wind up in both conditions, low development and negative growth due to an ageing shrinking population.
Your last para gets a heartfelt agreement from me. It is why I linked to Daniel Schmachtenberger above – the idea of global emergence driven by synchronicity, connection and attraction that will evolve us toward a global society, united in purpose and values across the diversity of humanity. That is my vision, yet when I type it out in big broad strokes like this, shorn of a practical path to get there, no-one buys it. It all seems so removed from the shit and drama we face in the here and now.
Yet we have been here before. In say 1700 chattel slavery was an almost universal condition. No-one thought it was a desirable thing to fall into, but few might imagine a world without it. Yet just a century later the combination of a coal driven Industrial Revolution, and an abolitionist movement founded in the idea that all humans were equal before God, had permanently shifted our thinking.
The combination of an enabling technology, and a moral sentiment tilted toward the unity of the human race – changed everything in an emergent fashion. So why now in 2022 at the pinnacle of our collective insight and capability would we not be able to do this again?
Yes, I know that you have been indefatigably trying to build a bridge between the rather abstract problems and concrete tangible actions and integration into the daily lives of ‘ordinary’ people and I admire you for those efforts even though a sense of frustration seems to be detectable at times.
Indeed, we (i.e. the human race) have been there before, a few times, but perhaps never with the same acute sense of urgency. Unfortunately, it appears to be human reaction to close off during tough/threatening times, which seems to lead to more feelings of isolation and disenfranchisement, which in turn can lead to further disengagement.
We cannot rely on religion to give us moral guidance and instruction, if we ever could. The social contract is not what it used be either. The fact that we have very high homology between DNA, RNA, and protein sequences that indicates shared ancestry and strongly conserved evolutionary traits and high similarity with other species does also not seem to be enough either to realise our interconnectedness with fellow humans in particular and other species with whom we share this planet.
It seems as if the more we know and the more inevitable the conclusion the more resistant we become and the more in denial we act. It seems counterintuitive but I have to conclude it is all but so. No single person can solve these wicked problems, only through trans-disciplinary collective thinking, discussion, and action do we stand a chance to chip a viable path to the future.
Very nice wrap Incog. Your last sentence is absolutely on the nail, yet acting in this collective mode requires a transformation of the human heart.
Too many people wanting to control the world, before they have even learned to master themselves.
And for something completely different:
Another one from the South
Enjoyed the song, but pessimism is warranted
James Hansen: There Is a Lot More Warming in the Pipeline (dailykos.com)
Hansen argues that we are on track for 10ºC and will see warming equivalent to the PETM mass extinctions over the next 100 years.
Whilst the fundamentalist strains of religion have a negative influence, I don't think it's right to follow the polemic stance of Dawkins and other strident atheists who hold just as tightly to their own narrow fundamentalisms.
There is wisdom and insight in religion, if we see the symbols and meanings rather than the strident legalisms of the moralists and fearmongers. Quoting Richard D. Bartlett:
The only way our society has a future is in turning away from our shadow selves and leaning into Love
"Well and good", and accurate (Sale Alert) – some 'hyperconsume' their way to the grave, resisting moderation with every fibre of their being. The clearly irrational trait of consuming to excess is an abiding mystery. Just because bacteria in a Petri dish do it, doesn't mean sentient humans on spaceship Earth must follow suit – and yet…
Can you give examples of these revolting narcissistic entitled people who demand that the 'bottom' half of humanity live in poverty 'forever' – Trump perhaps?
Maybe removing clean energy limitations on civilisation will allow BAU growth of consumers and/or consumption ad infinitum – I sincerely hope there’s time to tell.
Fucker murdered 30 or more youngters. He'll do it again.
https://twitter.com/mradamtaylor/status/1606296763194671105
Cold blooded as a rattlesnake an cunning as a shithouse rat not a dude you'd want in your neighborhood .
Morale is high.
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A video emerged that appears to be showing "L/DPR" commander beating soldiers who evacuated two wounded as a group of 10 people, instead of taking a position as they were meant to. (shared by @DefMon3)
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1607085505291898882