Written By:
lprent - Date published:
12:57 pm, September 6th, 2014 - 114 comments
Categories: election 2014, john key, national, same old national, slippery -
Tags: #dirtypolitics, #teamkey, cameron slater, dirty politics, whaleoil
How John Key and a few of his acolytes like to think of his government.
And then there is how everyone else now does…
Why? Well there is the list of his ministers that have been dismissed for abusing their position.
But mostly it is because of the nasty nature that lurks beneath..
In my view, a vote for John Key and National is a vote for more arseholes like Cameron Slater.
Labour may want to “Vote Positive”. I don’t as I’ve had seven long years dealing with this arsehole blogger and others like him. Get rid of the creeps in National and the supporters who supply him, and who are like him. Stop them destroying our society and our blogosphere.
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Yuck. Almost spat our my lunch at the keyboard. That third picture!
I have voted. Vote early, vote for a change in government!
“That third picture!’
One is ugly and nasty from the outside. The other is from the inside.
now that needs to go viral…
Speaking of ethics, Sharon Murdoch’s cartoon on How to lose your moral compass,
https://twitter.com/domesticanimal/status/508008846388785152/photo/1
hi weka .. what method are you using for cutting and pasting cartoons like this ? never knew we could .. mny thx. I am on pc, not mac …
We can’t afaik. I’m guessing Lynn has done that after I posted the link (lprent).
The only flaw with that is that it implies that John Key had a moral compass to begin with.
John Key works for John Key, no one else.
….and Oracle came from way behind to pip #teamkey at the post
I hope everyone has seen this pic by now, but in case they haven’t…
Hadn’t seen this, thanks!
Glad to have introduced someone to it. I am rather partial to it. 🙂
First time too. OMG he’s gritting his teeth. I would too with that arm around my shoulders.
lolz true!
Lucky guy’s too old for a cuddle, like that kid in the purple bear-suit @ St Lukes…
You loonies on the standard are way too hard on John Key. How many lefties have been the PM of New Zealand and an All Black at the same time???
And the answer is….
None….
But none the less, the question that the acolytes would immediately fudge.
John Key is an All Black. I saw him on the cover of Rugby News with an All Black jersey on:
http://i58.tinypic.com/2l8evyd.jpg
Yeah, at the end of the day he played well tonight, didn’t see a lot of him on TV because he is always in the midst of it I reckon, but at the end of the day I’m pretty sure he was an influential presence on the field.
Love the Herald front page again- Cunliffe and some candidate, Labour living dead, Key (look at me with this lady on a bike) Labour ‘distracted’
policy from the Nats?? Talking about policy? anything but that!
GET RAW
Cunliffe needs to come out punching on Wed TV 3 leaders debate , playing the statesman for ‘vote positive ‘ will gift it to Key . This is a huge constitutional crisis ,lets go for the throat . LIst 1.2.3.4 the Ministers and there pending crimes .Key will brush aside but
Lange would have said …deep breath …” Every time I go past your billboard John I could swear you nose looks just a little longer ….” Follow up the last week with billboards on all major urban motorways with John Keys nose getting slightly bigger all week .At the base one word . Johnocchio.
Here’s another one .Over iwi -kiwi ?, lets go Nazi -Natzi.
Shane Jones would be perfect for Wed ,up front fire brand old school passion . You need someone who looks into the empty fridge , has hungry kids at school , who struggles to pay for the most overpriced houses in the world ,who understands how dirty dairy has drained us dry and is now activley promoting the systematic degrading of the last remaining clean rivers and streams .
…Cunliffe ” Why is it John , just why is it ,…….that John Cambell did more for child poverty in one day than National has in last six years ? Pounds the lectrum , body language tightens , forgets the minders , actually starts feeling not thinking and actually articulates the enormous anger about how ordinary kiwis have been mistreated and mislead by a National Govt which seems to now to function soley to assist ,a trojan horse take over of every aspect of NZ Govt and life by offshore corporate business interests .
“Yes John you can walk on water , but can you walk sewage ,. because mark my words we are going to get to the bottom of this ,and John … John …no …let me finish…John …..I have the express and collective backing of the leaders of Mana /Greens /Labour and NZ First and as a united front we are not going to take this any more , we are not going to take this any more ! Nz doent want it . we dont want and its not going to happen any more ! Wow, the worm goes up …..
David you must find something exceptional and genuine to lift the left block with some real emotion . Dont eat for 3 days , don’t sleep in the 1st 24 hours get genuinely angry and when you come out out to fight go for strait for the emotional jugular .
Sorry but ive just had a gutsful of well coached plastic presidential style glibness on both sides .Get Raw .
Good points!
Labour has lots to win and National lots to lose. Go for the spectacular. Logic, Truth and Passion. All or nothing.
Brilliant. Just love it.
Good question Black Lemmington, “why is it,……that John Campbell did more for child poverty in one day than National has in the last six years?”
#getraw
Surely, that’s a glass-half-empty view.
After all, another cycleway was opened yesterday, so the poor & homeless will be able to tootle around Godzone much easier than before. Maybe, even, pick up a few scraps left by wealthy recreational cyclists.
I remember, as a child, a global ‘dissing’ of Blyton’s ‘Famous Five’, largely because they were stuck-up snobs who cycled around the country, belittling and over-crticising the plight of those less fortunate than themselves (sometimes even setting their dog onto some poor unfortunate). And now, in NZ, here we are building cycleways, but stopping short of lifting the minimum wage above the poverty line…
Can any one tell me what will happen if for argument s sack nats win then in 6 months key is found out to be in on all of what’s gone on do’s it mean new leader or another election?
If Key is not in on it then he must be incompetent
If all this has been going on around him and many of his other ministers for 6 years
–and they say they do not know!!
Watch out that pig flying around you is not just someone throwing their food.
I am not sure b waghorn but I suspect that your hypothesis is a distinct possibility. Nats win, just, then senior frontbench Nats start getting arrested for breaking the law and frogmarched in handcuffs out of Parliament is my fantasy.
Here’s my pick.
Winnie goes into coalition with Key, the price is a Royal Commision as well as Winnie being deputy PM (well they gave him Treasurer last time). After the Commission reports back Key resigns and Peters automatically achieves a lifelong ambition of becoming PM. Shortly after that he loses a confidence vote because there’s so many Nat MPs in prison he is way short of a majority, & so we have a new election. 🙂
Well, that’s the reason I’m voting for the first time in many elections.
😀 😀 😀
Cameron Slater is Key’s alter ego… exactly as per the image. They both need their oxygen cut off.
My two ticks for Labour will be clear, distinct, positive and firmly made.
Any votes for National now are dirty ticks.
Tom
Please, please take 10 people with you. I will.
Labour just needs 8,000 more and there were some 800,000 who didn’t vote last time.
The 3rd pic of morphing Key/Slater is clever, funny, and true. Great laughter in our house.
Actually, thats what was written about labour today. The walking dead.
By John Armstrong. They say Slater is his pimp, and you?
and in the comments armstrong gets monstered for being a biased partisan piece of shit – whats your point?
proud to say I voted 2 TICKS TO LABOUR today – get rid of the corrupt Key & Co – corrupt morally and in black ops – $500m could fed hungry kids rather than waste on tax cuts. English today almost admitted would be better to pay debt – just a bribe to the clueless and duped – MSM proving to be as shit as they have been last 6 years
It is interesting that the left are so hateful. Slater gets hammered for doing what most of those on this website do. And I am interested in the left’s contempt for anyone who doesn’t agree with them inclduing the half of the population who vote National.
Slater gets hammered for doing what most of those on this website do.
citations ie evidence needed… given the range of things Slater has been (allegedly) involved in – doing paid hits for commercial interests under cover of posts alleged to be by Slater. Colluding with Ports of Auckland management, including taking confidential info about union members and publicising it. Trawling brothels for info to blackmail journalists, politicians, etc… anyone who disagrees with Slater…. on and on [evidence produced by Rawshark and Hager’s Dirty Politics.
If you can’t produce any such evidence re “people here”, then you are merely tr0lling and smearing people here with false allegations.
Yeah, I don’t think people are “hammering” Slater for a few photoshops and funny pictures, pretty sure it might be the corruption, gun for hire character assassination, and corporate shilling.
@ Mark Wilson
Wrong.
Slater’s getting hammered because he and Odgers link Key and his government with international organised crime on a massive scale.
Best case: Odgers is a monumentally oblivious idiot, with an astonishing knack for working with, or for, large-scale fraudsters, again and again. Even in that best case, and somehow discounting Trio Capital and the Russians altogether, it’s still only two steps from the Prime Minister to the crooks (Key => Whaleoil/Odgers => Flader/Jeeves), and that $1Billion US Ponzi, and $314Million in US penalties
Sorry, link isn’t working – here’s the UK
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/08/new-zealand-prime-minister-john-key-the-whale-oil-blog-and-international-organized-crime.html
Yep Mark your right
Found one of those hateful comments
‘Question – 250,000 children in poverty. If you gave there parent (and it will almost always be one) an annual income of $100,000 how many would be left in poverty? Almost all because low level intelligence will out.
Classic. Dissing (supposed) stupidity in the poor, and giving us a ‘there’ instead of a ‘their’.
Mark Wilson
People are hammering Slater for emailing such things as,
On Helen Clark.
“I’m going to get John Tamihere and Michael Bassett to knife the bitch”
And when Harper Collins pulled out of the publishing deal
“I’m going to write a book about politicians rooting..”
and referring to ” The childless and barren minister Ruth Dyson….”
On a prison inmate who tried suicide after being moved away from his family, ostensibly at Slater’s request
“Send him a message to tell him to try harder next time.What a loser. Can’t even kill himself properly. He’s a c**t”
Mark, This is why he’s being hammered. You’ll find strong language on the standard but not this sort of obscenity. Slater is a National’s political pornographer.
It might help your perspective to read Hager’s book and see what is really happening in your party.
I must admit I’ve been really puzzled by National’s supposed poll popularity. It doesn’t square with common sense. A lot of (soft, I don’t associate with hard core Tories) National voters I know have been really shaken by the dirty politics stuff. Several have changed their vote over it. I do know that National seems to have the low-information voters in the provinces who rely exclusively on right wing propaganda from the MSM for news completely in the thrall of the cult of Key.
My gut feeling is the polls are even more inaccurate than they proved in 2011, due to the rapid decline in landlines and the numbers of undecided/refuse to answer voters is at unprecedented levels.
“I do know that National seems to have the low-information voters in the provinces who rely exclusively on right wing propaganda from the MSM for news completely in the thrall of the cult of Key”
This is so accurate! But many are starting to question Key…so its a race to the election…i.e the slow realisation from traditional Nat voters that their leader is a crook versus 20th September…
Given the income levels on average of Nat voters is higher than the left if they are “low information” who rely on “right wing propaganda” etc so clearly aren’t to smart then as income is a reliable predictor of intelligence then a lot of the left can’t be to bright.
Are you a secret parody account pretending to be a RWNJ?
I can’t work out if you are being serious or if you are just on a big piss take …
Don’t be two hard on hymn.
😆
Calling 50% of the population low infornation voters is why u lot are not going to be in power this year.
“… low infornation voters…”
Quite.
But I guess I ought to humour you, it being the election campaign and all. It is hardly the fault of the good people of Napier or New Plymouth they are low information – they’ve been kept deliberately in the dark by a centralised right wing corporate media aided and abetted by the nasty nests of crony self-serving vipers that have sprung up in the local media blackout to exploit their local economies.
The left want to make sure no one is kept in ignorance indeed, I do believe the left believes that even you may one day be led to the sunlit uplands made possible by the liberating power of knowledge.
I forgot. People can’t use the internet.
God you’re a fucking moron.
trouble with the internet is that rich folks have been paying bloggers thousands of dollars a months to lie. But I guess you haven’t read the book yet.
That is not a very nice way to talk about God, Infused.
“Low information voters” has hit a nerve @infused…for obvious reasons.
( 😆 )
Pretending that the electorate is the population is your trump card??
Pretending that the polls are accurate is your blankie?
Straw, meet clutching.
One day I might actually read one of your posts.
…might actually understand one… FIFY
th neighborhood
http://m.smh.com.au/national/the-key-factor-20140901-3ennz.html
Surely this must be satire?
No – its just another puff piece on John Key – with an Oz twist to it – destined to go world-wide, and to make Key look good in NZ
Except, what looks good about being a PM for status and power, and little else? And then we get how he’d just as rather be PoTUS. And to cap it all of he’s really glib about the rise in child poverty.
“When Good Weekend accompanies Key on a recent campaign visit to the Wellington Institute of Technology, a young polytechnic graduate in the building trade tells Key he’s weighing up job offers. “I’m taking the best offer, obviously,” says Josh. “I’m always chasing the money.” Key approves, loudly: “That’s my boy!”
If anything encapsulates what is wrong with the neo-liberal nurtured attitudes that dominate New Zealand this is it: ‘I’m always chasing the money’??
We are encouraging our young people to pursue this fool’s gold?
Is this how vacuous we have become?
A nation of ‘hollow men’?
Question – 250,000 children in poverty. If you gave there parent (and it will almost always be one) an annual income of $100,000 how many would be left in poverty? Almost all because low level intelligence will out.
I let your comment through because it was so stupid. Fancy putting your name to such a load of tosh. So with complete confidence you propose something extremely unlikely but then say with utmost confidence that the consequence of this extraordinarily unlikely event will be utterly predictable. How weird.
Besides you should learn the difference between “there” and “their”.
The place is awash with these sort of mistakes at the moment.
“Low information voter” …because has inability to process information, i.e thick as “bat shit”
🙄
+1 Micky
Brent Edwards is checking fact against fiction. Key is caught out, again and again. I despair how he gets away with it. No one pulls him up in questioning.
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/252810/election-2014-fact-or-fiction
Lovely post. Unfortunately, the ‘dirty politics’ that Hager highlighted appears to be taken as shit on the par with normal political nonsense. So, the perception is ‘as was and has always been’.
Just two more weeks now till the only poll that really maters will be concluded.
I just wonder what Dot Com has planned still. Is that big September 15th announcement mentioned back in July still going to happen and will it be something big like he promised?
So the personal insults from the left flow as usual – nothing new there. The fact remains that no achievable amount of money will save most of the children in poverty because there caregivers are incapable of looking after them. The left would rather the children continue in poverty than accept the truth.
Hi Mark,
Can you please provide verifiable evidence for your claim?
Thanks.
Take it away Oxfam:
And Key could personally end it here. Max could probably do it from th housekeeping.
+111 Cnr Joe … or just a few of the wealthiest in NZ could end it (would cost less per person if they collected together with that aim).
But no, instead they promote and vote for policies that lessen social mobility and make poverty worse.
Let us remember too that they do this just so that they can get more, when they already have plenty.
@Huginn
Any other evidence of Odgin’s dubious links? That article is extraordinary……allegations nearly beyond belief. Know if it is being investigated, either here or Interpol?
you can cross check with
http://www.business.govt.nz/companies/app/ui/pages/individual/search?roleType=DIR&q=Catherine%20Michelle%20ODGERS
http://www.business.govt.nz/companies/app/ui/pages/individual/search?roleType=ALL&q=Lana%20ZAMBA
Cathy set up all of the shell companies with “Lana Zamba” as director, also the “Andreas KAKOURIS” both good names to google,
https://opencorporates.com/officers?button=&q=Andreas+KAKOURIS&utf8=%E2%9C%93
https://opencorporates.com/officers?button=&q=lana+zamba&utf8=%E2%9C%93
here is nice diagram use the tree view if not selected:
https://opencorporates.com/companies/nz/2098758/network
Have a look at Richard Smith’s other articles on the same site, they all seem well referenced.
For example, Google ‘Jeeves Group’ (Odgers’ former employers) and ‘fraud’, or ‘Jeeves Flader Odgers smh’ and so on.
And yes, there does seem to be a lot of international journalistic interest
You can see why people like Brian Gaynor are signalling serious concerns.
I lived in Weymouth close to Clendon for 2 years. I shopped there and watch the shopping carts being filled up with cigarettes and booze while the children around were thin and bedraggled. I saw the devastating treatment they received from their parent, the drug dealers prosper while the children needed to be fed at school because their parent decided their habit was more important.
I have seen the children with parent inflicted injuries who were never taken to a doctor because their coward parent didn’t want to go to prison.
Have you?
🙄
Did you see the people working 40-60hrs/wk trying to raise a family on minimum wage?
probably not, because you didn’t want to.
edit: it must have been hell, having to mix with the plebs in the supermarket like that. My heart bleeds for you.
“Have you”
I lived that life for awhile when I was a kid Mark. Until my alchoholic mother was forced, through beatings, to leave home. Life was better after that. I know what it’s like when no-one gives a shit, Mark. Even when they know what’s going on. Do you?
I saw that and more.
Nothing you or anyone else has
Said can refutes the truth – the bottom of the heap are cannot care for their children.
The only “truth” that you have made evident is that those who regard themselves as being higher up in “the heap” can’t construct a coherent thought.
A wound up little ball of projection, assumption and judgement, ain’tcha?
Tell me, did you ever report the obvious abuse you identified? What was the outcome of the investigations?
There are a lot of people who are not caring for their children properly, Mark. Not all of them are poor.
I view this as a wider problem than individuals. We all need to chip in and try and make this society a better place.
Putting people down who are at the bottom of the heap is not where it’s at and is shitty behaviour.
I win. The left can’t control their insults once they can’ t answer the truth – there is a huge number of people who can’t look after themselves let alone children.
“Win”?
We’re talking about the mistreatment and poverty of children, and you think that this is about who wins the “miss congeniality” award on the internet?
Dude, children are dying. Not from assault, but from diseases that have a clear socioeconomic relationship. Kids are going to school without breakfast, not because their parents are on the piss but because their parents literally do not have enough income to put a roof over their kids’ heads and food in their kids’ mouths – and almost always the kids eat before the parents. These are the actual facts, demonstrated time and time again by MSD, NGOs, social researchers, and anyone who thinks that demonstrating a “fact” takes more than just peering into people’s shopping trolleys at the supermarket.
I also note that you ignored the question about whether you reported the abuse you allegedly witnessed. That was your responsibility, your self-claimed means of alleviating the suffering of at least one child. Your silence is deafening.
Seen it all Mark, humans aren’t perfect but frankly that’s a piss poor excuse for throwing 250 000 kids on the scrapheap. Shame on you and your greedy ilk
+100
Fact: more unemployed under National: the party that creates more poverty.
Fact: lowest unemployment level in NZ history: 2007 under Labour: the party that tackles poverty.
You may have heard of the GFC. A lot of countries are still struggling to get out of it. NZ is doing almost the best in the OECD.
And voters are not stupid. They know this stuff, because they have lived it.
You may have heard that profits carried on increasing while wages went backwards. Voters are not stupid, they know this stuff, because they have lived through it.
In any case, I’m talking about the entirety of New Zealand history, not this current pack of mongrels staining you with their filth, Dr. Mapp.
“The left can’t control their insults once they can’ t answer the truth”
funny thing is YOU havent answered a single response put to you – you just reappear with some more nonsense then refuse to back yourself up when the foolishness of what you say is pointed out.
So seeing as you can be arsed backing yourself up why should anyone here give a shit about treating you with any kind of respect?
i am south auckland born and bred and on behalf of all the hard working under paid people trying to raise families and make ends meet i say a hearty f**k you Mark, you lying shit. I worked at Pacific Steel in Mangere for years, pumped gas on Takanini, laboured at sites across Auckland and the hardest workers were definitely not snivelling little asswipes like you
The biggest problem facing nz is simply David Cunliffe is unlikable along with the politics of the far left.
You guys backed the wrong horse.
So, not that the Prime Minister is a ratfucker then.
OK so we are all agreed as shown by the comments here –
– When faced with an unpalatable truth the left always resort to insults – see above.
– Poverty is a useful predictor of intelligence – ask the people who work at WINZ – I have.
– Most on the left do not have the intelligence to understand identifying a problem does NOT mean you agree with it.
– There are plenty of people who are on the same income as the bottom feeders who look after their children well so why can’t the parent of the 250,000?
– More money will NOT solve the problem. When the left do in due course win an election they will throw the wealth creators money at it as usual and after 3 years the children will not be better off.
– Until the bottom feeders are given financial incentives and disincentives to breed the children will continue to suffer.
– But thats OK with the left because realities that go against their beliefs will be ignored.
Fact, always more unemployed under National, the party that creates poverty.
A reality that goes against your belief. You ignored it so I’m rubbing your face in it.
Fewer unemployed means the children are indeed better off. Mark Wilson’s beliefs rely on him ignoring that fact too.
Hey Mark
Just found another another of the Hateful commenter your were commenting on yesterday.
Its you
It is indeed: Mark’s lies are the embodiment of hate, his refusal to engage with, for example McFlock’s responses betray his aversion to contrary opinion, his inhuman attitudes to fellow citizens demonstrate his low character.
We need to flush people who share his anti-social bile out, and make sure New Zealanders are protected from them.
So far no one has denied the truth – the bottom feeders cannot look after their children. What is hilarious is even when mocked for inability to argue without resorting to insults they keep it up! Amazing!
Mark Hotchin is a Bottom Feeder
What do you know about his children?
Yeah, in fact several people have challenged your ignorance; Mickysavage, Puddleglum, McFlock, myself, Blue Leopard, and so on.
Pretending we haven’t is a bit daft when everyone can see, no?
Oh, and calling people bottom feeders and then complaining that you feel insulted makes you a hypocrite too.
“So far no one has denied the truth ”
they have – up and down this thread – repeatedly
Ok I will go away and leave you all to talk about child poverty but not achieve a damm thing about it.
The right create the wealth and the left waste it and the children continue to suffer.
Nope. Per capita GDP is always higher under Labour led governments, and unemployment is always lower.
Get your facts straight.
‘The right create the wealth and the left waste it and the children continue to suffer.
The finance companies in NZ WASTED about 3 billion dollars At least)!!!!
More fact checking from RNZ, including pulling Key up on some of his outright lies.
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/election-2014/252810/election-2014-fact-or-fiction
TradeMe Zigzag John Key auction is back, but it’s a new one, so all the Q and A from yesterday is gone.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=777346102&ed=true