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1. ZeeBop 1

   20 May 2011 at 12:35 pm

   Farmers spent money and took on debt. Taxpayers didn’t, government had no
   debts when National came to power. National shifts the burden of income
   taxes onto lower and middle NZ, and now to *also* pay for tax cuts its
   cutting taxpayer services, kiwisaver, etc.

   National say its to keep government spending
   down, and so inflation. Inflation is up due to the GST hike, inflation is
   up because of tax cuts to upper NZ, inflation is up because of high private
   debt. So tax payers are paying in borrowing, cuts and sell offs, to keep
   private debtors from having to pay higher interest rates! Now, even if
   you agree we need to keep farmers from going bankrupt, surely
   taxpayers should fairs fair, even in a legal sense, that the ease to which,
   and the incentive for farmers to take on debt, should be addressed.
   Capital farming not only stimulated the urban property sector, but the
   rural agricultural land price.

   So how did we get here. My theory is that kiwis don’t understand
   science. Science says that you first admit ignorance, come up
   with a theory to explain the facts, test the facts, and postulate
   new theories that better explain the facts more simply. Now the
   non-scientist, lets call them the lawyers, decide they want to
   sound scientific so they naturally find the flawed interpretation
   of the scientific method to exploit thinking in general, and science.
   The flaw is all you need to do is refute the current model/theory without
   offering a better model/theory to replace it with, that is open to testing.
   Basically all a lawyer needs to do is find a negative, a detriment,
   to anything and it can be refuted. This disrupts science and democracy
   since now the heckler lawyer does not need to come up with a better
   solution, in fact they take up the platform and keep the old thinking
   around but under huge suspicion.

   Weakened and ineffective… …like the NZ economy.

   Its gotten to the point where the lawyers will keep asking the
   same question over and over until they hit a false positive
   in the minds of society and government so their client can win,
   because their target is always a negative, never a positive
   outcome (a better model, theory or outcome).

   Their client being themselves and their excessive need for
   attention and seeming powerfulness has paid their bills
   for so long its all they need to do. And why where their
   wallets being padded, well because growth was assured
   by oil getting cheaper and cheaper in real terms… …until
   peak oil hit. So in the language of evolution, we have
   evolved a niche elite who at best do-nothing while looking weak
   and ineffective, or look strong by being hugely destructive
   and negative of the structure binding our society.

   Or to put is simply, a better model we have two gears
   neutral or reverse, no stopping allowed, no turning
   to avoid calamity, no accelerating except backwards.
2. Bored 2

   20 May 2011 at 12:38 pm

   I can’t move, I feel like I am paralyzed, I shout out but know-one can hear me, I’m helpless my country is being stolen.

   You are the Briton under the domain of Rome, the Indian in the Raj, the Maori watching ships arrive, this is an old old story. You will hear “resisance is futile” from the imperialist (in our case mobile capital palys that role), but fear not. You are not helpless. All Empires overshoot and collapse. Corporates will with the end of our current “business as usual” cycle. Oil ends, so do they.
3. prism 3

   20 May 2011 at 5:54 pm

   A good analogy for your view of the whole country is the plight of hotel owner in Christchurch prevented by authorities from staying near his property to limit his losses from the earthquake or even having talks with a site controller as to the possibility of making visits to keep an eye on it.
   Now it has been found that looters cleared the guests’ rooms.

   The authorities couldn’t conserve and control the business and personal resources of those affected in the red zones and wouldn’t allow the owners to be involved who were virtually paralysed. Same as what is happening to this country. The pollies ‘know what they are doing’, don’t respond to reasonable requests from the citizens, undermine the country by stripping us of major assets and send us on a giant leap backwards chopping services to the young and working people who keep the country ‘going forward’ and at present are passing legislation under urgency avoiding submissions to the select committees.
4. Robert Atack 4

   20 May 2011 at 10:53 pm

   Here is a way of taking control
   Get the tax man off everyone’s back

   http://www.ournz.net.nz/–Taxation.html

   I don’t agree with everything on this site, but this tax system looks ‘fair’ and a way of taking a lot of stress away from the people, which should be something every good leader aims for.
   But as we know ‘they’ like to have control over us, and tax is one of the ways they keep people compliant, and fearful. ie what is the govt going to take from me this year? how much will they raise this or that tax, it is all control.
   • weka 4.1

     21 May 2011 at 12:18 am

     They don’t say who they are, which is a bit odd for people taking memberships and donations.
5. Jim Nald 5

   21 May 2011 at 7:26 am

   Is “partial sale” like being partially pregnant ?

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