The horror of low wages

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1. Squirrel 1

   31 October 2009 at 7:15 pm

   Hey thanks for putting them up 🙂 I’ve added a crowd shot its at http://www.flickr.com/photos/12492550@N03/4059603647/

   Crowds are difficult to get into a photo, individual shots are so much easier for lazy photographers 🙂
2. Christopher Nimmo 2

   31 October 2009 at 10:57 pm

   Why are those kids carrying Socialist Aotearoa posters?
   • illuminatedtiger 2.1

     31 October 2009 at 11:15 pm

     Free speech? Just a thought.
     • Christopher Nimmo 2.1.1

       31 October 2009 at 11:41 pm

       Theirs or their parents’?
       • Galeandra 2.1.1.1

         1 November 2009 at 12:28 am

         Your point? Perhaps we should prefer attained-their-years-of majority astro-turfers? It’s great to see young people showing commitment to important issues.
       • Marty G 2.1.1.2

         1 November 2009 at 1:28 pm

         they’re teens, they get paid minimum wage.. in fact, thanks to unite they don’t get the youth minimum wage anymore, they get the full minimum
         • kiwiteen123 2.1.1.2.1

           1 November 2009 at 2:58 pm

           I fully support teens giving their opinion, even if I don’t agree with it! (it would be odd if i didn’t :P)
         • Christopher Nimmo 2.1.1.2.2

           1 November 2009 at 4:04 pm

           But unlike those in the other photos, they aren’t holding Unite posters. They’re holding Socialist Aotearoa posters. Is that one at the front of the bottom picture a teen? I don’t think so. These kids are getting used by their parents and/or Socialist Aotearoa. This wasn’t OK when people were dragging their kids along to Child Discipline Act protests, and it isn’t OK now. Neither is it OK that SA obviously hijacked this protest.
           • kiwiteen123 2.1.1.2.2.1

             1 November 2009 at 4:14 pm

             Now children are different… 😛 Surely 8 year olds can’t believe in this? Don’t use children, let them make up their own mind!
3. gitmo 3

   1 November 2009 at 8:22 am

   I wouldn’t employ any of that rabble on $10 an hour let alone $15.
   • felix 3.1

     1 November 2009 at 1:46 pm

     It seems unlikely you’d ever employ anyone for long.
4. Flood 4

   1 November 2009 at 10:57 am

   Those ‘rabble’ are the kids that make your pizza, hamburgers and sell you your movie ticket. You should read up on who the unite union supports, its every day kids and teens. The people in our society who do loads of menial service work and have stuff all rights.
   • gitmo 4.1

     1 November 2009 at 1:26 pm

     Eh John Minto and Sue Bradford are making me pizza and hamburgers …….blarghhhhhhhhh !
5. kiwiteen123 5

   1 November 2009 at 3:00 pm

   So if capitalism isn’t working, what will? The whole world (capitalism or not) doesn’t appear to be working. It’s always has been and always will be like this!
   Communism doesn’t work. Let’s stick away from that, Minto, Bradford etc.
6. Di 6

   1 November 2009 at 4:02 pm

   John Minto and Sue Bradford are intelligent people who have a social conscience. They care about society and are prepared to put themselves on the line to be spokespersons for others. They have qualities that gitmo has not yet learned to appreciate- fairness, courage, compassion and empathy.
   • kiwiteen123 6.1

     1 November 2009 at 4:11 pm

     Di,
     Are you serious?? Show me how they are fair! Show me how they have courage! Show me their compassion! Show me their empathy!
7. Daveski 7

   1 November 2009 at 4:15 pm

   Sure, increasing wages is a great idea in principle (especially when you don’t have to worry about where the additional money comes from).

   But wouldn’t it have been a logical time to float this idea during the boom times that Labour wasted, oops oversaw rather than during the aftermath of the worst recession in 80 years? Where were the marches 4 years ago?

   And shouldn’t the issue be rather than what we pay our pizza makers but what we pay our scientists and engineers and how we develop the economy?
   • Christopher Nimmo 7.1

     1 November 2009 at 4:57 pm

     Obviously you have forgotten that the minimum wage increased substantially under Labour. And that every party to Labour’s left was advocating $15 during that period.
     • Daveski 7.1.1

       1 November 2009 at 5:45 pm

       In other words, no marches. That’s all you needed to say.
       • felix 7.1.1.1

         1 November 2009 at 8:41 pm

         I think you’ll find that many people felt – rightly or wrongly – that under Labour the minimum wage and other basic workplace conditions were not at risk.

         The Labour-led govt, after all, did enact a fair bit of legislation to guarantee various workplace rights over their 9 years including significant minimum wage rises.

         Some would’ve liked to have seen them go further, sure, but you won’t find many who believe – rightly or wrongly – that Labour were actively working to remove or lower minimum conditions in the workplace. Even if Labour weren’t willing to go as far as many would’ve liked, they had support parties to the left to keep them on course.

         National and ACT, on the other hand…
       • Christopher Nimmo 7.1.1.2

         1 November 2009 at 10:02 pm

         Much of Unite’s fervour during Labour’s reign was spent on the effort to repeal the youth minimum wage. And yes, there were marches in support of this. Many of them. Marching to increase the minimum wage took a lower priority because Labour were actually doing something about it, if not at an ideal pace.
8. kiwiteen123 8

   1 November 2009 at 7:22 pm

   So if capitalism isn’t working, what will? The whole world (capitalism or not) doesn’t appear to be working. It’s always has been and always will be like this!
   Communism doesn’t work. Let’s stick away from that, Minto, Bradford etc.
9. Brett Dale 9

   3 November 2009 at 5:14 pm

   This is why i don’t go to protests, there is always some jackass with a socialist banner who has never travelled but had a left wing teacher in the seventh form.
   • the sprout 9.1

     3 November 2009 at 5:15 pm

     😆

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