Why be a public servant?

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1. Sam C 1

   20 July 2017 at 1:44 pm

   I live in Wellington and know plenty of public servants (including a couple of chief executives). I don’t know any who have gardeners or send their kids to private schools, but most of them do enjoy a wine and, God forbid, get a regular haircut.

   You yourself point out that the IRD restructure has been telegraphed for years – by all means jump up and down if you don’t like the final outcome, but at this stage there is scant detail of what the final structure will look like.

   What exactly is the point of this post?
   • Ad 1.1

     20 July 2017 at 2:10 pm

     After two massive stories about specific departments, you don’t see a point to the post?

     Since you asked, and don’t have a critical faculty to actually use, here are some points within the post.

     1. Public servants are important to executing policy, but they are being gutted in IRD and a lot of people are reasonably worried about it. There’s a fair few commentators about today who are also concerned – some of whom I linked to so that you can help form that missing critical faculty of yours.

     2. Restructuring a government department with very large redundancies has a very large economic impact.

     3. The middle class is very important to New Zealand, and the Wellington public service is vital to that.

     4. The culture of bullying within the Ministry of Transport has occurred under the current government, and was carried out in a noteworthy specific instance by the person who is now the Auditor General. And it was noteworthy enough that the State Services Commissioner got involved. And made a specific speech about the importance of whistleblowing. Again, I linked to that to assist with your missing critical faculty.

     5. Degrading public servants and cutting their capacity severely limits the ability of an alternative government to implement policy. This is worth taking note of with two months to go to a new government.

     Since you didn’t understand any of that, you need to sit down with these public servant friends of yours – including those chief executives – and do a bit of reflection.

     Ask them about the culture and capacity within MoT.

     Ask them about the culture and capacity within NZTA.

     Ask them about the culture and capacity within IRD.

     Ask them about the culture and capacity within DoC.

     Ask them about the culture and capacity within MoJ.

     Ask them about the culture and capacity within MoH.

     Or the Ombudsman’s Office. Or the Privacy Commissioner.
     There’s a few more I could list, but that should be enough conversations with your friends for you to be getting on with so that you can figure out what the point of the post is.
     • mickysavage 1.1.1

       20 July 2017 at 2:27 pm

       I agree with Ad. Today is a really bad day for the public service. How the feck did Mot get things so bad? And how can they justify cutting a third of IRD’s staff?
       • Ad 1.1.1.1

         20 July 2017 at 2:50 pm

         It was great to see the PSA voice their serious concerns about the IRD restructure, in the release I linked to.

         The stories I hear of the departments I listed are horrific. Hopefully the PSA will call out the relevant Ministers for these departments for disgraceful conduct. After all, there’s an election on.

         There is nothing to lose, except an oppressive government.
       • Sam C 1.1.1.2

         20 July 2017 at 2:58 pm

         With ref to my comment at 2 below, I hadn’t seen the SSC’s findings when I typed that. Hard to argue with the findings – as Micky says, how did MOT get it so badly wrong?

         Not sure that Martin Matthews will be returning from his leave of absence.
         • mickysavage 1.1.1.2.1

           20 July 2017 at 3:35 pm

           Agreed.
         • Rob 1.1.1.2.2

           20 July 2017 at 10:01 pm

           If Matthews can be so easily conned by J Harrison how can he be auditor General
           He may even be conned by bully boys like a former minister of transport!
         • gsays 1.1.1.2.3

           21 July 2017 at 1:34 am

           he certainly shouldn’t.
           made me curious how auditor general got the job.
           the officers of parliament committee said so.
           said committee includes carter, mallard, clendon, sepuloni, stewart, ross, flavell.
           • Loop 1.1.1.2.3.1

             21 July 2017 at 6:16 am

             “made me curious how auditor general got the job.”

             The same way surjon became a night and got oz order of merit. Systemic failings and willful blindness
     • Doogs 1.1.2

       20 July 2017 at 5:21 pm

       You only missed out the Ministry of Education. All sorts of shit going on there!
     • SARAH 1.1.3

       20 July 2017 at 7:06 pm

       You left out MPI. I listened to someone talking about the culture there and most who work there are appalled at what goes on.
2. Sam C 2

   20 July 2017 at 2:37 pm

   In re your first 3 points, as I said above, this has been telegraphed for a long time. There were always going to be relatively large job losses as a result of the implementation of the new system at IRD. Since I (and presumably you) don’t know the exact nature of those job losses, it is premature to speculate as to the economic impact or otherwise.

   As for 4, I’m not close enough to that to agree or disagree about the culture at MOT, but will wait for the findings of the report.

   Re point 5 – so are you saying that the IRD restructure was announced two months before the election with the express intention of limiting the ability of an alternative government to implement policy? That’s a pretty long bow to draw.

   I think I’ll pass on the reflection with my friends though, thanks. We’ll probably just sit around drinking wine, eating small-goods from Moore Wilson while watching the gardener raking the leaves, talking about how miserable the culture is in their departments and how lacking in capacity their departments are and how they can’t wait for an alternative government to save the day.
   • Ad 2.1

     20 July 2017 at 3:05 pm

     Top work on the analysis and capacity to use a reply button.

     If you think it’s premature to speculate on the economic impact of a restructure, then you haven’t been through one. Speculate about your future is the first thing to do, and it’s the only wise thing to do. Every one of those people going through restructures goes through fear and a focus about their actual interests. Their entire family goes through that damage together. If you are not aware of the studies about how the great majority of restructured people never recover either their economic or social status they once had, elucidate yourself.

     Since you think just sitting on your fucking ass hoping that the impact will be light is the right approach, then clearly you are either a chief executive, a minister, or a union organiser that has been bought. Doesn’t matter which – your reaction would be the same.

     You sure aren’t from the SSC, because they are the only people showing spine right now.

     Every single large scale restructure in Wellington in the last thirty years has involved massive job losses. These fuckers are true to their word. If you don’t know that, then you don’t know as many public servants as you say you do.

     On point 5, if you can’t see the capacity issue, you are blind.

     Clearly you don’t like the idea of being middle class. You don’t like seeing how restructures affect an entire economy. You don’t like admitting who does or does not go to Moore Wilsons. Or has childcare. Or goes to Pacific islands or skiing during winter. You are in denial.

     Every single thing you say shows that you are caught within a bubble. About time you started opening your eyes to the damage to the public service that this government is doing.
3. Bill 3

   20 July 2017 at 3:30 pm

   Maybe somewhat relevant.

   Was in conversation with a foreign national who works for ACC. They were saying ACC seems to prefer hiring foreign nationals to do claim assessments because they lack the insight to know what ACC used to be and so are unable, perhaps, to evaluate or criticise new claims criteria on the basis of historical or institutional knowledge.

   And that conversation originally reminded me of scenes from the “I Daniel Blake” film where the lead character has to make their claim in electronic form where to will sent off to someone he never meets or speaks to who will assess his claim against a series of tick boxes.

   And coming back to your post.

   What would be a possible motivation for gutting the civil service? Some departments, I’ve no doubt, could be deliberately run down then held up as inefficient failures that would be better run as and by private contractors.

   UK equivalent of WINZ is already contracted out. I could see ACC being contracted out. And I’m sure there are many other departments that could be “ripened for the picking”.

   And then government’s reduced to over-seeing the process of contracting out and perhaps somewhat lackadaisically, monitoring the services that have become contracted out.

   Small and corrupt government heaven?
   • Ad 3.1

     20 July 2017 at 3:38 pm

     I certainly don’t think the public service in general is corrupt here – I think on the contrary the mid-level and operational staff are usually saints operating in ridiculous constraints.

     Yes there is an accelerated hollowing out of actual public servants in many of the social welfare arms, in favour of a highly devolved and contractarian culture with awkward and opaque accountability mechanisms into NGO trusts. But that’s too big an area for my little post today.

     I do think the quality of mid and high-level management in the public service in Wellington’s core public service is on average very, very low.

     There have been a few standouts with real heft and excellence over the last few years – Dr Prebble, Jeff Dangerfield and David Smol and of course Hugh Rennie come to mind. But so many of them are out of their depth, and do exactly what we have seen at MoT and are seeing now in IRD. Chaos ensues.
     • Bill 3.1.1

       20 July 2017 at 3:54 pm

       Didn’t mean to imply that the public service is corrupt.

       Your description of mid-level and operational staff compared to higher-level management, seems to chime with what I hear from people working for larger NGOs dependent on government funding.

       You want regime change and you have the wherewithal, then step one is to promote unimaginative “yes” peeps into top positions, no?
   • AsleepWhileWalking 3.2

     20 July 2017 at 9:17 pm

     I shudder to think of what WINZ would be like if it contracted out like the disaster that is UK welfare.
     • Ad 3.2.1

       20 July 2017 at 9:30 pm

       Whanau Ora is one of the biggest such moves.
4. savenz 4

   20 July 2017 at 4:56 pm

   Maybe IRD will offer free meals and training and help getting residency in return for free workers at IRD on their new computer systems and turning a blind eye, wink wink to government tax evasion and fraud.

   They could put Judith Collins in charge and with our auditor General after his promotion after being asleep at the wheel with The ministry of Transport frauds.

   A joint brain fart from The Maori Party and National party policy in action – what a winner.
5. Anne 5

   20 July 2017 at 6:55 pm

   Thanks Ad. Your summation of the Public Service as I experienced it is very accurate. Especially:

   That gives you a little hint of what it is really like to work in Wellington as a public servant now. It is a perpetual climate of fear and obedience, where the good go punished and there is no justice for incompetence or malice.

   Be assured it not only happened in Wellington and it is interesting to note my own experience also involved the Ministry of Transport – 20+ years ago.

   One aspect you only touched upon which plays a significant role is the Peter Principle
   • Andre 5.1

     20 July 2017 at 7:26 pm

     The Peter Principle is long gone. And that’s not a good thing. When the Peter Principle was operative, the boss was someone who, once upon a time, was actually good at something related to that workplace. Now, not so much.
     • Anne 5.1.1

       20 July 2017 at 7:41 pm

       I was referring more to this definition:

       the Peter Principle the theory, usually taken facetiously, that all members in a hierarchy rise to their own level of incompetence.

       It began with the restructuring in the late 1980s/1990s and is imo a direct consequence of neoliberal practices. I witnessed it firsthand in the MoT 25 years ago. Wisdom and experience flew out the window and was replaced by “youthful dynamism” – at least that was the expression used by one idiot manager I had the misfortune to work under.
       • Andre 5.1.1.1

         20 July 2017 at 8:26 pm

         They used to have to rise to their level of incompetence. Nowadays they just get bunged straight in to a level of greater incompetence.
         • Anne 5.1.1.1.1

           20 July 2017 at 8:46 pm

           That is true. I saw tried and true managers starting at the very top tossed out in 1989 and replaced by a bunch of incompetents from other jurisdictions, including the private sector, and within 2 to 3 years the govt. department I worked for was on its knees. They, in turn, were tossed out and the whole shebang became an SOE and as far as I can tell has prospered since. I hate to say it but it was the Minister of Transport, Rob Storey in the Bolger Govt. who came to the rescue and re-introduced some commonsense appointments.
     • Cricklewood 5.1.2

       20 July 2017 at 8:14 pm

       Its why I having started my career in council have moved and stayed within the small companies in the private sector. Inevitably the company owner understands and is engaged in what they are doing.
       The admin building where i started out was colliqually known as ‘bullshit castle’ which was apt. As a small but typical example an edict was issued that no small plant could be purchased as a result we spent thousands of dollars hiring a $500 lawnmower for 6 months…
6. One Anonymous Bloke 6

   20 July 2017 at 7:21 pm

   the inertia

   How many degrees does the direction of the inertia need to change?
   Things that are already moving get lighter, as anyone who has ever pushed a car can attest.
   • gsays 6.1

     21 July 2017 at 10:02 am

     Welcome back oab.
7. WILD KATIPO 7

   20 July 2017 at 8:00 pm

   Nice post.

   I worked as a labourer ( officially called a ….’ Headworks Assistant ‘ … L0L ! ) in the ARA… ( Auckland Regional Authority ) in the 1980’s out there in the Waitakere Ranges.

   1980 – 1986.

   I left that job just before the guys knew it was all going to be broken up and privatized. They all said I was mad to leave . Little did we all know. At the depo I worked at , they almost all lost their jobs. And so it was across the ARA as all depts were privatized to one extent or another.

   I don’t forget or forgive easily when people in suits fuck others over.

   Especially when I see the shitters responsible rolling in cash and in social positions publicly commenting on ‘changes that need to be done in order to be more efficient’ .

   The same goes when I see shitters who are well off talking about economic downturns that affect thousands of peoples lives forever talking about ‘ market corrections’ … as if sanitizing it with a euphemism legitimizes fucking those thousands over as if they are mere cattle to be consumed.

   Neo liberalism.

   The filthiest , most treacherous ideology to afflict the modern western democracy’s that ever we had the misfortune to be taken in by.

   New Right Fight – Who are the New Right?
   http://www.newrightfight.co.nz/pageA.html

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