Brash new world

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1. more_ben 1

   28 April 2011 at 1:52 pm

   The front page photo of Rodney is priceless.
   • r0b 1.1

     28 April 2011 at 2:05 pm

     Ooops – sorry – just changed it! But you can find it in some of our older posts. I like it too. Mad Hatter’s Tea Party – kinda fits ACT.
2. Frank Macskasy 2

   28 April 2011 at 2:01 pm

   “The dream scenario for the left is if Brash manages to scare the centre. The prospect of a Key government shackled to Brash and ACT after the 2011 election is hardly an attractive one.”

   Not even a dream – more of a likely scenario.

   I’ve no doubt that a Brash-led ACT will attract more support. I’m thinking they will at least double their election night Party Vote (3.65%)…

   … but at National’s expense. Those who support Brash’s style of free market economics, minimalist government, and Treaty Denial, already vote for National and ACT. So if ACT increases it’s support, it will be by cannibalising National.

   Worst still (for the Nats), I foresee the strong possibility that National will lose additional support from urban liberals, maori, women, and those 50+ who remember what Roger Douglas and Ruth Richardson did to NZ in the late 1980s/early 1990s. The latter are “soft” National voters who would be more comfortable with a Muldoon-style National government.

   Many of these people will either switch to NZ First or Labour, or possibly not vote at all.

   An empowered ACT will not be a pleasant prospect for National.
   • El Mutante 2.1

     29 April 2011 at 1:01 am

     Whilst what you say has quite a bit of merit Frank, it’s not just the preserve of the 50+ age group to remember Rogernomics and Ruthanasia. I’m in my mid 30s and I grew up in it, in a neighbourhood reamed by the consequences. I remember it very well even if I only made sense of it in my teens.
     • Frank Macskasy 2.1.1

       29 April 2011 at 4:23 pm

       Indeed, Mutante.

       Let’s hope people’s memories of the late 1980s and 1990s are as strong as ours.

       Once voters start seeing Brash and Douglas together, voicing their neo-liberal dogma, they may experience a collective upset-tummy…
3. vrykolakas 3

   28 April 2011 at 2:04 pm

   Does Nicky have anything on Brash ?
   • logie97 3.1

     28 April 2011 at 2:38 pm

     Not clear is it at this stage, but one who is still in parliament and would prefer not to be in the same room is Double Dipton.

     No love lost there and who knows what archival material might be being held that could trouble Don.
     • Armchair Critic 3.1.1

       28 April 2011 at 3:40 pm

       No love lost there and who knows what archival material might be being held that could trouble Don.
       There’s plenty. Question is, how will its possessors use it?
4. Lanthanide 4

   28 April 2011 at 2:13 pm

   The current vote on Stuff is interesting.

   Predict ACT’s fortunes under Don Brash’s leadership:
   1016, 38.5% say Improved
   1053, 39.9% say Worsened
   569, 21.6% say Unchanged

   Not really what I expected. Of course it’s very early days yet, Brash hasn’t yet opened his gob as official mouthpiece for Act, so still plenty of time to spook the horses or lure them in with salt licks.
5. logie97 5

   28 April 2011 at 2:27 pm

   Don Brash tell’s another porkpie on Campbell Live on Wednesday.

   http://www.3news.co.nz/Don-Brash-talks-to-Campbell-Live-about-attempted-coup/tabid/367/articleID/208739/Default.aspx

   6’12” into the interview Campbell asks him the questions of his market research.
   Brash “I can’t give you verbatim the questions but they are along the lines of…”

   7’50” into the interview Campbell asks him what he said to Calvert,
   Brash “I sent her the questions exactly as they will be asked in the survey …”

   Of course he knew them …
   • Bored 5.1

     28 April 2011 at 2:52 pm

     I think Brash very confused and inconsistent, so I checked the historic track record. Couple of little gems for those RWNJs who think him an intellectual heavyweight.

     Brash received his MA in 1961 for a thesis arguing that foreign investment damaged a country’s economic development. The following year he began working towards a PhD which reached the opposite conclusion. Conclusion: not to be relied upon for consistency.

     In 2004 Brash wrote to the Dean of the Cathedral raising questions over Helen Clark’s views on the institution of marriage. This from the man who has so far ended two marriages because he was caught out having affairs. This from a Presbyterian minister’s son who might just have understood the moral contradiction inherant. This from a man who subsequently claimed somebody else (Richard Long) wrote the letter. Conclusion: not to be trusted, possessing dubious morals and bad judgement.

     My God, what sort of pillocks would want this prat as their leader?
     • Sean 5.1.1

       28 April 2011 at 3:44 pm

       My God, what sort of pillocks would want this prat as their leader?

       The ACT party caucus pillocks, apparently.
     • Jaghut 5.1.2

       28 April 2011 at 11:48 pm

       My God! He’s changed his mind in the last 50 years!
       • Draco T Bastard 5.1.2.1

         29 April 2011 at 12:20 am

         It’s probably more likely that he got pulled aside and told not to keep going down that line.
         • Jaghut 5.1.2.1.1

           29 April 2011 at 12:23 am

           So he devoted the rest of his life, working career and political reputation on being ‘pulled aside?’

           Bollocks.
           • Colonial Viper 5.1.2.1.1.1

             29 April 2011 at 2:31 am

             So he devoted the rest of his life, working career and political reputation on being ‘pulled aside?’

             That’s what it looks like.
   • Lanthanide 5.2

     28 April 2011 at 3:10 pm

     Um, I don’t think that’s inconsistent at all. He says he “sent” them to Calvert, presumably in an email or other message after the meeting. It is of course entirely possible that he had the questions written down with him on a bit of paper during the meeting he had with Calvert, but evidently did not have any paper with him when being interviewed by John.

     He then outlines what the three questions are. Basically he said he can’t say what the questions are word-for-word (and why would we need that anyway?), but still goes ahead and tells us what the questions are asking.

     I think you’re really grasping for straws with that one.

     What *is* interesting however is his repeated use of the term “market research”. He’s polling. We’re talking about people’s voting intentions here. It’s not a “market”, unless somehow he’s come up with a way to buy people’s votes.
     • logie97 5.2.1

       28 April 2011 at 3:24 pm

       Perhaps, though if he drafted (or was in on) the questions he would have been able to tell Campbell. I rather feel that it was a typical diversionary tactic of his, given his answers to “Do you have the votes of Roy and Douglas?” The man cannot give a straight answer (or prefers not to) when in a corner – a bit like Key actually – the head moves uneasily and the eyes glaze a little. Shades of the way he gave his answers to questions in 2005 … “Exclusive Brethren? … never met them.” “Ah well actually…”

       And you know what, one gets the feeling that Joyce et al will be feeling a little uneasy right now. They do not want the Hollow Men being dragged up, because they used to be the faceless, anonymous participants, but are now very high profile.
     • PeteG 5.2.2

       28 April 2011 at 6:35 pm

       Also interesting that he commissioned the research for the week after he became leader, almost as if it was a planned sequence.
6. Colonial Viper 6

   28 April 2011 at 3:43 pm

   Can someone please splice up Hollow Men and put it on YouTube for all to see.

   (If its not there already 🙂 )
   • Bunji 6.1

     28 April 2011 at 5:32 pm

     Here you go cv. Freshly up on NZ on Air in a beautiful coincidence…
     • felix 6.1.1

       28 April 2011 at 5:53 pm

       Aaaaannnddd…. freshly youtubed as well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvszui3U8vM
   • Colonial Viper 6.2

     28 April 2011 at 6:38 pm

     Bloody hell you guys are stars 🙂
7. Sanctuary 7

   28 April 2011 at 4:23 pm

   For me personally, one of the most nauseating aspects of this whole business is reading the frantic near begging for Brash to be made leader of ACT from the likes of John Armstrong.
8. Name (Required) 8

   28 April 2011 at 4:44 pm

   “Goodbye Rodney, and good riddance. What does this do to the political landscape?”

   It leaves the New Zealand political landscape exactly where it was – full of fifth-rate poseurs, prigs, parrots, provincials, parasites, panderers, pimps, pontificators, pompous pricks, and psychotics.

   It costs me about a dollar to vote and presently I don’t think any party is worth the expense, so voting is a matter of sorting through the dross with a very long stick to select which is the least objectionable – a hard choice.

   On its current record of inertia, lack of actual philosophy and general invisibility I’m guessing Labour would do least in the way of damage if actually in Government, so it presently has my vote.
   • r0b 8.1

     28 April 2011 at 4:56 pm

     I am in awe of both your alliterative excellence and your level of cynicism! But at least you’re still voting…
   • Colonial Viper 8.2

     28 April 2011 at 5:09 pm

     On its current record of inertia, lack of actual philosophy and general invisibility I’m guessing Labour would do least in the way of damage if actually in Government, so it presently has my vote.

     OK its pretty damn weak but I’ll take what I can get for now 🙂

     Hey, what exactly is wrong with “provincials”, mate??? And why have you put them in with everyone else 👿

     And if Pollies Prostitute themselves for Power, that makes them what exactly? 😀
     • felix 8.2.1

       28 April 2011 at 5:56 pm

       Johns?
       • Colonial Viper 8.2.1.1

         28 April 2011 at 10:25 pm

         John Banks?

         Actually I was trying to maintain the alliteration…a pollie who prostitutes himself for power is a prostitute! (verb becomes a noun! Uh never mind)
9. rod 9

   28 April 2011 at 5:18 pm

   So the born again geriatric hollow man is back again. Don’t these pricks ever get the message.
10. vto 10

    28 April 2011 at 5:36 pm

    oh my giddy aunt, it’s no wonder people go bush and never return. what a god awful place.
11. vrykolakas 11

    28 April 2011 at 7:12 pm

    Truth is often stranger than fiction. You could not make this up, even in Wellywood. Wait, that should be Hollywood !
12. PeteG 12

    28 April 2011 at 9:41 pm

    Key kicks off with some brashness:

    New ACT leader Don Brash won’t be deputy prime minister or get his hands on the finance portfolio, Prime Minister John Key says.

    He said he would “try and be constructive” and won’t rule Brash out of an executive post. But it was “highly unlikely” he would be offered the top jobs.

    The repositioning begins.
    • Pascal's bookie 12.1

      28 April 2011 at 10:01 pm

      hahaha, next move, National party righties try and force the issue by shifting support to ACT.

      Be careful there Johnny boy, here be dragons.
      • Colonial Viper 12.1.1

        28 April 2011 at 10:27 pm

        Round Table Dragons 🙂
    • Puddleglum 12.2

      28 April 2011 at 10:49 pm

      “highly unlikely” doesn’t sound like “won’t” to me. And the “highly unlikely” was the direct quote.

      How about, “There’s absolutely no way that Don Brash will be either Deputy Prime Minister or Minister of Finance in a government I lead. I can assure New Zealanders of that.” (You know, something like what he said about Douglas. Or is Brash less ‘extreme’ than Douglas?)
      • Draco T Bastard 12.2.1

        29 April 2011 at 12:22 am

        Considering all the effort that National seem to have gone to to get Brash in as leader of Act it would be kinda silly of them to rule him out of any government they may form.
        • Jaghut 12.2.1.1

          29 April 2011 at 12:26 am

          Exactly what efforts would they be?
          This is a genuine question, to me it looks like the effort has come solely from Brash and his financial backers?
          • Jaghut 12.2.1.1.1

            29 April 2011 at 12:29 am

            Exactly what efforts would they be?
            This is a genuine question, to me it looks like the effort has come solely from Brash and his financial backers?

            EDIT: In my view, National would of probably preferred to deal with Hide because Brash actually presents competition and criticism of National’s economic policy – Hide just pissed around amalagating councils and the like.
            • Draco T Bastard 12.2.1.1.1.1

              29 April 2011 at 2:26 am

              The effort of putting one of their faithful party members into the leadership of Act. Who said that Nationals backers and those of Act aren’t one in the same? After all, they do have the same policies and National does need Act to win Epsom to bring in a tail so that they have a greater chance of gaining power.

              Check the record, asset sales? check, union bashing? check, tax cuts? check. Brash and his backers are more concerned with how fast National have been moving on their policies not the policies themselves.
13. appleboy 13

    28 April 2011 at 10:12 pm

    Maori party will NOT be happy to have Brash as part of things. Spells trouble ahead for sure now that racist old codger is amongst the pig(eon)s.
    • rosy 13.1

      28 April 2011 at 10:32 pm

      Yes, I was wondering about that. I haven’t seen any press releases about the new leader of their coalition partner.
    • Draco T Bastard 13.2

      29 April 2011 at 12:24 am

      I’m sure that the Maori Party will still be quite happy to accept more baubles the same way that they did with the present government.
      • rosy 13.2.1

        29 April 2011 at 12:31 am

        With Hone gone and gaining traction they might just use this as a deal-breaker. Brash is one big dead rat they have to swallow and Foreshore & Seabed deal has been delivered.

        It makes the whole thing seem even more of a co-ordinated campaign – and all the while Key is kept clean. Having said that I can’t decide between Key being in on it, or the hard right giving him a message to speed up ‘reforms’.
14. Zarchoff 14

    28 April 2011 at 11:33 pm

    “An invigorated Left might just squeak in.”

    In which parallel universe will this be then?
    • r0b 14.1

      28 April 2011 at 11:47 pm

      No parallel universe required, just the inevitable plate tectonics of the electoral cycle.
15. PeteG 15

    29 April 2011 at 7:20 am

    Brash quantifies his ambitions.

    Don Brash wants to be finance minister, and claims the Act Party could gain 15 per cent of the vote in this year’s election under his leadership.

    Finance is the most important portfolio for a government so it is highly unlikely to go outside the major coalition partner.

    15% is a reasonable aim for Act, it’s double what they have so far achieved – and much higher than anything in the last 6 years – but why not be ambitious. It’s hard to know how many would re-align out of “undecided” and how many would step sideways from supporting National.
16. pETER 16

    29 April 2011 at 10:51 am

    We need also to remember that Brash has never won an election. He couldn’t even beat Social Credit in East Coast Bays in the 70s(?). He is politically naive! The fact that as leader he won’t stand in their sole seat shows how poorly he is knows he is regarded. Using the revelations from Hollow Men and his track record as the arch-Rogergnome we should refer to him as yesterday’s man. We could still see the demise of ACT.

    Peter
17. HC 17

    30 April 2011 at 1:45 am

    Don Dagger Brash or Dagger Don Brash, whatever his fitting name is, he will now concentrate on the next victim in his hostile take-over.

    Revenge is sweet, and the dagger is being sharpened in his DIY shed right now to also go into the back of Hone Key soon.

    Don Dagger will see to it that Rodney the loser will also lose his ministerial posts.

    Then Don will go on an all out attack and have National Party members get all hot and bothered. Many are dissatisfied with the ever so smiling asassin. He has not delivered enough of the goodies that they want.

    So the pressure will be on for him to either step up, or to be facing a coup from within. We may soon get the “real” JK in full action – the one that many ordinary workers and citizens may fear.

    No not forget that Banksy is waiting on the sidelines. He may have some mates inside the National Party that are keen for Keys blood?

    A very interesting drama is unfolding and the November elections may be more exciting than anybody may have dared to imagine.

    If Labour cannot take advantage of this, they are ready for a revolution from the base, or designed to the dustbin of history.

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