Brownlee as Foreign Minister as successful as you’d expect

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1. Keith 1

   5 May 2017 at 12:31 pm

   Dear oh dear oh dear, the Nat’s have been bloody pathetic on Australia. And the buffoon Brownlee was only ever going to bring incompetence and unjustified arrogance to the role anyway. That and he can bypass security checks because he is above the law I suppose.

   And fuck the how close we are/best mates bullshit, I am over it and for Gods sake Jerry, no one believes that anymore.

   At the joint press conference Brownlee should have said we are ending the non reciprocated relationship with Australia and we will be treating them like we treat any other foreign country with no privileges, just like they do us. Oh and the “Anzac spirit”, yeah well, that died in 2001. Fuck you Aussie.

   In the very least we remain dignified rather than looking like the lickspittles we currently do.
   • Johnr 1.1

     5 May 2017 at 3:42 pm

     I’m with you Keith. I’ve worked with them, I’ve worked for them, I’ve employed them and done business with them. Quite frankly I find them a nasty race of people. Being retired, the only protest I can make is to ensure that I don’t spend any money in their businesses or purchase any Aus products.
     • WILD KATIPO 1.1.1

       5 May 2017 at 5:39 pm

       Well typically , – I like the Ocker,…

       But you don’t trust their bullshit either.

       Traditionally its a big , hot , tough bloody country,… and I can respect that .

       But that doesn’t excuse the propensity they’ve got for spinning bullshit. Then again , – we are not above that bullderdust crap ourselves . Just look at the weakarse chumps we’ve had in parliament over the last 3 decades…

       You’ll get the picture…

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     • Mister Smokey 1.1.2

       6 May 2017 at 11:16 am

       “Nasty race of people,” eh?

       Nice little generalisation there. Let’s get specific:

       I bet any particular Aussie will be glad to see the last of a misery-guts, bleating kiwi like you, mate.
       • keepcalmcarryon 1.1.2.1

         6 May 2017 at 9:48 pm

         Thought the same as you Mister Smokey. People have a habit of taking their own bullshit with them wherever they go..
   • Morrissey 1.2

     5 May 2017 at 8:36 pm

     Oh and the “Anzac spirit”, yeah well, that died in 2001.

     Actually it was killed twenty years earlier than that….
     • WILD KATIPO 1.2.1

       6 May 2017 at 6:47 am

       Yeah , – and we still haven’t learnt .

       Gullible bloody KIWI’s.

       Time to wise up.
2. roy cartland 2

   5 May 2017 at 12:38 pm

   People have been referring to him as the top ‘diplomat’.
   • WILD KATIPO 2.1

     5 May 2017 at 6:31 pm

     Top bloody bullshit artist , more like.

     The chump barges his way through an airport security door then gets promoted to Minister of Defense ?!!?

     WTF ?!!?

     Yeah right ! , – thats really the guy we want in that position !!!

     Now he’s cowtowing to the Aussies because he knows Aussie banks own his shit neo liberal govt – yeah hes really a stand alone statesman mate.

     About as much as Neville Chamberlain was in standing up to Shitler.
3. Antoine 3

   5 May 2017 at 12:44 pm

   The interesting discussions will not be going on in the public eye

   Unclear how much progress we can realistically expect however, we don’t have much leverage
   • WILD KATIPO 3.1

     5 May 2017 at 5:26 pm

     We don’t have that much leverage because our fucking main banks in NZ are just about ALL Australian bloody owned.

     That’s why.

     Anyone could tell that useless blimp Brownlee was all bluster and no substance. And just like all the rest of these neo liberal arsewipes , – there is NO WAY they will rock the boat in any significant way.

     They are nothing but weak , deceitful political whores with no spine or backbone to represent the people who elected them.

     And Brownlee’s no exception.
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4. Muttonbird 4

   5 May 2017 at 12:46 pm

   They, coalition government and the National government seem to be dismantling the AUS-NZ relationship one gesture at a time.

   When will they move on the special category visa?

   And CER itself?
   • WILD KATIPO 4.1

     5 May 2017 at 5:34 pm

     At such time as NZ self determination is all but symbolic.

     And we are almost at that point now.

     Its called being ‘ bought and sold’.

     Never mind, – we can still buy that flat top TV at cheap Asian sweatshop imported prices, cant we …

     ( BTW , – I haven’t had a TV since around 2009 , – and I haven’t missed a trick of whats going on in New Zealand however, – and if anything, – I am far more educated and disgusted at what I see going on in the name of our national sovereignty than I ever was having one. )
5. marty mars 5

   5 May 2017 at 1:09 pm

   how brownlee got any reputation other than as an incompetent buffoon is beyond me – I can’t think of anything he has got right – but at least he isn’t as dim as bennett – there are knives, spoons and forks missing from that cutlery drawer.
   • tc 5.1

     5 May 2017 at 1:29 pm

     He’s a bully as is bennett, it’s the only ability a national minister really needs along with minimal media savvy.

     The real work’s done by others, there’s a reason the consultants budgets ballooned like Gerry’s arse over the shonky reign. These are the worker ants with zero exposure and no public responsibilities just going about their very well remunerated chores.

     Blinglush, Findlaysoon and Bovver boy joyce check most of their homework probably.
     • marty mars 5.1.1

       5 May 2017 at 1:38 pm

       imagine that pack of dingbats checking your shit out – what a nightmare – no wonder this gnat gnash pack are so lost and incompetent
       • WILD KATIPO 5.1.1.1

         5 May 2017 at 6:20 pm

         Yep ,… and all these dullards do is follow on in the tradition of these shithead subversives:

         New Right Fight – Who are the New Right?
         http://www.newrightfight.co.nz/pageA.html

         Thule Society – Wikipedia
         https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thule_Society

         Young Hitler – Excerpts Appendix | The Thule Society
         http://www.younghitler.com/thule_society.htm

         Which means , that they sacrifice being seen as actual people of initiative and are quite happy to look and act like the impotent useless post neo liberal troughers they actually are.

         The above sites explain magnificently why these neo liberal scum act the way they do. They are nothing more than expensive tax payer funded parasites. This latest show of complete useless impotence by Brownlee was entirely predictable and par for the course in the the post neo liberal era.

         They’ve got nothing we want , nothing we need.

         And Ill ram the point home by using an Australian song to further show their self abasement’s .

         Fuck off , Brownlee .

         Cold Chisel (Jimmy Barnes) – You Got Nothing I Want [Bubanee …
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6. Draco T Bastard 6

   5 May 2017 at 1:56 pm

   Why are we even bothering to try to negotiate?

   Australia has been quite clear for years that they really don’t want Kiwis there and have been unilaterally reducing the agreements that we have with them concerning free movement between the two countries.

   Given this the only option we have is to cancel all those agreements as Australia has made clear that they want to do.
   • Enough is Enough 6.1

     5 May 2017 at 3:16 pm

     I agree Draco.

     Australia is free to do what they like. I don’t think we should be going over there and crying. We should simply be tearing up the Agreement as it is clearly not working as intended.
     • WILD KATIPO 6.1.1

       5 May 2017 at 5:52 pm

       And giving the old heave ho to their bullshit monopoly’s they have here with their banks taking all the profits out of NZ as well.

       That’d make the arrogant fucks scream and our neo liberal politicians scream even louder.

       Whaddya think about getting all nationalist now, then, eh ?
   • Matthew Whitehead 6.2

     5 May 2017 at 3:49 pm

     Yeah, this is essentially the exact same policy as “opening our markets up” ahead of everyone else in that it’s supporting New Zealand being a pushover in world affairs. Even if we would value the agreement about sharing services with each others’ citizens, we should mirror Australia’s move as a signal that we require them to honour their part of the agreement if we’re to honour ours.
7. mosa 7

   5 May 2017 at 2:16 pm

   Australia is a bully and knows darn well that this government in particular is all words and no action.

   It’s always different when they come knocking on our door for something and expect to get it and its done by their rules and their conditions and we are to do as we are told.

   If this was genuine ” mateship ” then Australia have a funny way of treating their friends.

   Brownlee can be assertive when required.

   Well Gerry when are you going to start.
   • WILD KATIPO 7.1

     5 May 2017 at 5:54 pm

     Probably in the years to come when hes retired from parliament and drawing the pension paid for by us and interviewed by Guyon Espiner.
8. Cemetery Jones 8

   5 May 2017 at 2:26 pm

   National’s candidacy for foreign minister is interchangeable because they’re all going to be strategic catamites for NATO without much differentiation. Question is, now that Goff and Shearer are gone, can Labour do any better?
   • WILD KATIPO 8.1

     5 May 2017 at 6:40 pm

     Goff and Shearer were both loved by the neo liberals in Labour and National.

     Hell’s bells , – they were the neo liberals pin up poster boys FFS !!!

     It was probably the greatest thing Labour could of ever have done in getting rid of both of them and stop being associated with them – Goff with his sell out free trade support of the TTPA and Shearer with his support for private fucking army’s.

     The more these scumbags are diminished , the better Labour has a chance at getting balance restored back into this country.
9. JOHN IRVING 9

   5 May 2017 at 2:38 pm

   Maybe it’s our own fault for allowing NZ citizenship for new immigrants to be a backdoor into Australia
   • Whispering Kate 9.1

     5 May 2017 at 3:36 pm

     Have just seen your comment John Irving and have repeated it in my own – I agree with what you say.
   • WILD KATIPO 9.2

     5 May 2017 at 5:56 pm

     You’ve smacked the hammer fair on the nail , John Irving.
   • JC 9.3

     5 May 2017 at 7:39 pm

     Where do All our immigrants come from…..

     http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/92217629/Where-have-New-Zealands-migrants-come-from-in-the-last-four-decades

     Seems like they’re concerned about the French, and all those Samoans.. if I;ve interpreted things correctly at a glance… And it’s not Fake …
     • WILD KATIPO 9.3.1

       5 May 2017 at 8:34 pm

       I would advocate a per annum fixed number of migrants from EACH country. And then a total ceiling of ALL immigrants per annum. And that to be monitored not only quarterly , but monthly to keep a lid on immigration.

       Doesn’t matter where you come from.

       And after that , – once that target is reached , applications declined temporarily unless there is a pressing reason to not do so , using that sliding and flexible scale that accommodates the total per / annum migrant numbers , – and avoiding any fixed quota from any one group that can be manipulated.

       There’s ways and means to go about this sort of bullshit , and one of the ways to destroy neo liberalism and its exploitation of migrants and fuck over the rest of us at the same time is to jettison their platitudes about ‘ skilled workers’… we already have ‘ skilled workers’ here in NZ , and if we aint got em , we can train em.

       That’ll ensure all these cheap shit arse NZ employers and foreigners coming over here and exploiting other migrants wont be able to screw us all ( including foreign migrant ‘business people ‘ ) up the arse like they have been.
   • keepcalmcarryon 9.4

     6 May 2017 at 9:49 pm

     +1
10. Whispering Kate 10

    5 May 2017 at 3:33 pm

    Nobody is asking exactly why Australia is putting in these punishing laws. Maybe its because we, in New Zealand are inviting immigrants in from all over the world and many of them, when they get citizenship then cross the ditch and go and reside in Australia. Its not exactly PC but I wonder if European New Zealanders would be welcome but they have to cover everybody and so that’s why everybody is getting the same deal.

    This happened once before and the open entry was tightened up and was one of the reasons we ended up having passports as Australia was getting in people it didn’t want arriving from our shores. Why can’t Australia just have the guts and say so – we don’t want undesirable immigrants coming into Australia we have enough on our plate with our off-shore jails holing up refugees wanting to live with us. Unpalatable and racist but they are not exactly the nicest of people these days.

    It’s pretty obvious we are not wanted over there, if I was a resident I would want to return to New Zealand and cut my losses.

    Why we acquiesce so readily all the time over Australia is a puzzle – we are an independent nation and could just have trade deals with them like we do with other countries – this ANZAC brotherhood thing is just a nonsense these days. Gerry is an ass at the best of times – why did we think he would be any better in this new role. He is a laughing stock and embarrassment.
    • simbit 10.1

      5 May 2017 at 3:45 pm

      What’s a ‘European NZer’?
      • WILD KATIPO 10.1.1

        5 May 2017 at 6:06 pm

        What isn’t ?
      • Whispering Kate 10.1.2

        5 May 2017 at 8:14 pm

        A European New Zealander is quite plainly a white New Zealander, repugnant as it is to say it – and Australia should have the guts to say it as they mean it. What else is the reason for putting these sanctions into place. You asked for it – that is what they are want – its not my own opinion – I think its disgusting – a sort of ethnic cleansing – just because they haven’t a mature attitude to a diverse society doesn’t mean they have to punish us over here. Happy now?
        • WILD KATIPO 10.1.2.1

          5 May 2017 at 8:50 pm

          Originally part of John Howard’s govt’s fears were the mass immigration of the Hong Kong Chinese.

          They saw that under Helen Clark’s govt that they were at risk from in particular ‘ Hong Kong Chinese’ using NZ to get citizenship , then ,… after 2 years , … leaving NZ and heading to Australia, – using NZ as the back door way of getting into Australia.

          At that time , tensions between Mainland China and Hong Kong were quite high.

          Coupled with the fact that at that time also,… there was a political storm over KIWI’s heading to the Gold Coast and just going on the dole and surfing , whatever… although they were small in numbers compared to KIWI’s who were working and contributing.

          It was a combination of both Howard’s populist vote catching and Clark’s adherence to the neo liberal ” brain drain and we need more skilled migrants” that culminated in the punitive and discriminatory laws Australia adopted against New Zealanders since 2001.

          And this is why New Zealanders should always be aware of these scumbags whenever they enter into a modern discussion about the impotence of our neo liberal govt’s and their seeming lack of effectiveness :

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          Young Hitler – Excerpts Appendix | The Thule Society
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    • Matthew Whitehead 10.2

      5 May 2017 at 3:54 pm

      Uh, no, it’s because the Australian government is convinced it needs to cut costs, and cutting benefits from NZers in Oz is much more popular than cutting them from Australians. You’re just transferring the same logic to potential immigrants to NZ, and while I think we should turn that tap down a bit, I think it should be about domestic infrastructure and how immigration is going to cities when actually it would be far more useful if it was targeted at the regions instead.

      And you may be right that there may be some racist motivations in that they might value white New Zealanders more than non-white ones, but we shouldn’t consider that acceptable and kowtow to their logic like you suggest. We should respond in kind or cancel the agreement altogether until Australia is willing to live up to its obligations.
      • WILD KATIPO 10.2.1

        5 May 2017 at 6:04 pm

        Problem being that Australians are , numerically here in NZ , just a small percentage , – so Canberra would have weighed that up and sacrificed those small numbers for political expediency.

        But do you want to know how to REALLY fuck the Australians off ?

        Kick out their banking interests here and put a surcharge on every Australian company here as well…. as in a taxation.

        We could even specifically target Australian businesses. Hell , – we are a sovereign nation , – we can do whatever the hell we please .

        The hell with them.

        That’ll get their arrogant arses whinging and crying pretty smartly , – and you’d soon see a reversal of using KIWI’s as their political footballs ,… the useless manipulative shits.
        • Mosa 10.2.1.1

          5 May 2017 at 6:27 pm

          Spot on W.K
        • Matthew Whitehead 10.2.1.2

          6 May 2017 at 10:27 am

          Oh, going after the banks is good. I’m not a huge fan of tariffs specifically against Aus, as if we’re going to re-institute any it should be generally against everyone we don’t have FTAs with. Australia is one of the nations we do, and tariffs against them is essentially revoking the core of the CER agreement with took over and expanded on our initial FTA. That is definitely escalating the insult back at them at a level where it would just cause a reciprocal response from Aus, like punching someone who tickled you, as the agreement is worth almost $7b to the Australian economy.

          Even the going after the banks might be viewed in Australia as escalating above the level of the action they took given how important they view bankers, but it’s at least arguable. Of course, it will never happen under the current government, so it’s academic, but it could be an effective negotiating tactic if we ever need it when Labour’s back in office.

          I suggested a reciprocal cut to our side of the agreement because I knew that was all we could really expect National to do, but I agree even that is pretty kind to Australia given how asymmetric these arrangements are between us, but at least it’s something that there’s a persuasive argument for within a National cabinet.
      • Antoine 10.2.2

        5 May 2017 at 10:12 pm

        Cancelling the agreement sounds like a terrible idea that would leave NZers in Aust much worse off
        • WILD KATIPO 10.2.2.1

          6 May 2017 at 3:59 am

          So who’s side are YOU on?

          Kick the arses of the Australian banks and see how fast they change their tune regarding KIWI’s in Aussie… I’d give it a month before they’d put pressure on the dipshit who’s currently PM over there. And throw a tax on all Aussie company’s operating over here. That’d fix the bastards quick smart.

          It’d be like prising open one of their undersized clams they put on their barbies. Weak as shit once you cracked it.

          You’d soon see a smart reversal of using KIWI’s as a political lever in Australia for their shitty wannabe banker boys over here.

          Appeal to their basic sense of convict greed and call their bluff.

          I’d give it a month to get the desired results , tops.
        • Matthew Whitehead 10.2.2.2

          6 May 2017 at 10:29 am

          Sure, it would. But the issue is if we make no response, Australia realises it can continue coming after agreed benefits for kiwis with no consequence, which in the long term could have much worse effects than simply cancelling shared education services until we can get Australia to actually stick to its obligations.
          • Antoine 10.2.2.2.1

            6 May 2017 at 11:05 am

            Above all else, we don’t want to turn this into a tit for tat exchange of removing concessions. It’ll turn into a race to the bottom (of ‘no special relationship’). Better to do nothing at all than that.
    • Venezia 10.3

      5 May 2017 at 11:30 pm

      And …..In the Radio NZ National news excerpt I heard Brownlee referred to Julie Bishop as “Prime Minister Bishop”.
      • WILD KATIPO 10.3.1

        6 May 2017 at 4:06 am

        Yeah well that figures – he’d call anyone Prime Minister.
11. NZJester 11

    5 May 2017 at 5:40 pm

    Brownlee’s run as Foreign Minister is already a mess. Such is the depth of National’s talent pool.

    I think you misspelled “cesspool” as “talent pool”.
12. Matthew Whitehead 12

    5 May 2017 at 7:02 pm

    Honestly this is better than I expected from Brownlee. I am pleasantly surprised he only appeared weak and didn’t also manage to accidentally insult someone, but that’s because I feel I have appropriately low expectations of him as a minister.
    • WILD KATIPO 12.1

      5 May 2017 at 7:43 pm

      He’s short tempered, unteachable , concerned only with retaining his own seat ( literally ) displays the propensity to just being a yes ‘ man to USA foreign policy , protects the interests of foreigners above the interests of New Zealanders and adheres to the 5 eyes party line so as to be seen as not ‘ rocking the boat’ and agreeing with USA / Israeli treatment of the Palestinians …

      What a useless wanker.

      Hes one particular National party neo liberal coward that deserves special attention in the lead up to this September general election. The grossly built slob has been studiously hiding in the background all this time during Keys skiving off down the back alleys and English’s being dumped in the deep end….

      Bennett’s been neutralized , now its Gerry’s turn ,.. or Jerry or however else you want to spell the useless rotund buggers name.
      • Matthew Whitehead 12.1.1

        5 May 2017 at 8:09 pm

        Unlike Nick Smith, Brownlee appears to really have the reverse-midas touch as a Minister, and the sooner he can be replaced by someone else and relegated either to the back bench, opposition, or political dustbin, the better.

        I’m also a little careful not to attack him on his weight. It’s not okay when the right attack women MPs on their appearance or weight, so at least for consistency we shouldn’t tolerate it with Brownlee, either. It’s unimaginative and he’s been so destructive as a Minister that there’s plenty of substantive things to mock him on. Even though I know he personally has a sense of humour about it, it sends the wrong message to other people struggling with their weight at the very least.
      • Whispering Kate 12.1.2

        5 May 2017 at 8:19 pm

        Watch it Wild Katipo you will be ticked off for fat shaming by the moderators for describing Jerry as a “grossly built slob” – its not PC on this site and you will be reprimanded!!
        • WILD KATIPO 12.1.2.1

          5 May 2017 at 8:54 pm

          Yeah mate , – equally I could be ticked off for saying hes got a bloated sense of his own self importance – which is far far worse.
          • Tony Veitch (not the partner-bashing 3rd rate broadcaster 12.1.2.1.1

            6 May 2017 at 5:11 am

            I especially like Chris Hipkins, as reported on RNZ – and I paraphrase:

            “Rather than talk tough, Brownlee lay down and let Bishop tickle his tummy!”

            And, to be fair, there’s a lot of tummy to tickle!
          • marty mars 12.1.2.1.2

            6 May 2017 at 9:08 am

            If you can’t put your argument without alluding to his body shape or some other such rubbish you don’t have an argument you are just ranting like a child in other words it is childish. And hurtful and ignorant and arrogant and no better than any bigot.
            • peterlepaysan 12.1.2.1.2.1

              6 May 2017 at 10:49 pm

              Yes,dear.
              • marty mars …

                7 May 2017 at 6:24 am

                Ha you don’t say much and when you do its, well, not really noteworthy is it.
13. Smilin 13

    5 May 2017 at 8:36 pm

    How about they give us back our banks and all the rest they got in the rogering douglass paranoid fire sale
    Really what a pack of c…..
    We might get to keep some of the money they skim off us
14. tinfoilhat 14

    5 May 2017 at 8:58 pm

    Good grief..bigotry, fat shaming, misogyny, some of the commentary at The Standard is quite sickening.
    • repateet 14.1

      5 May 2017 at 9:32 pm

      Go over to Kiwiblog – you can have that and more, and more , and more …
      • Cinny 14.1.1

        6 May 2017 at 9:11 am

        Agree with you there Repateet.
    • WILD KATIPO 14.2

      5 May 2017 at 9:32 pm

      Hang on a minute, … Bigotry ?…. misogyny ?

      It was me who might have overstepped the mark for ‘ fat shaming ‘ ,… but bigotry ? misogyny ?

      Please explain … where ?

      And btw … I recall bloated well fed NAZI Waffen SS officers being forced by the US Marines to help in the cleaning up of Auschwitz and all those emaciated corpses ,.. perhaps I let that memory overrun a bit when I recalled poor New Zealanders dying in cold , damp mouldy run down State houses recently,… so perhaps I should have been a little less generalizing. But at least I can admit my error.

      But referring to Australian exclusion of NZ’s as NOT being bigoted?

      And wheres the ‘ misogynistic ‘ bit ???
      • WILD KATIPO 14.2.1

        6 May 2017 at 12:52 am

        And you think I’m joking about what I said above ?!!?

        Huh ?!!?

        German civilians visit the Buchenwald concentration camp in Weimar …
        Video for german citizens forced to see concentration camps▶ 2:53
        

        Want any more proof of your namby pamby denials of dealing with modern day pseudo NAZI’s ???

        Well here’s some just for you.

        New Right Fight – Who are the New Right?
        http://www.newrightfight.co.nz/pageA.html

        Thule Society – Wikipedia
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thule_Society

        Young Hitler – Excerpts Appendix | The Thule Society
        http://www.younghitler.com/thule_society.htm
        • WILD KATIPO 14.2.1.1

          6 May 2017 at 2:01 am

          Want another reminder about who Max von Thurn und Taxis was , – and his sponsoring of von Hayek and the Mont Pelerin Society ? … and how Max von Thurn und Taxis sponsored the Thule society ?

          And how the Thule society created the ‘ workers division called the NSDAP , – which later became the NAZI party ???

          Well here is the end results of Max von Thurn und Taxis handiwork just for you.

          Keep in mind , Max von Thurn und Taxis attended the 1989 Mont Pelerin Society conference in Christchurch to judge, first hand, the results of the “worlds most radical free market revolution” , – with ROGER DOUGLAS as the guest NZ speaker.

          .Colonel Sears compels Nazi officials to tour Ohrdruf concentration …
          Video for Colonel Sears compels Nazi officials to tour Ohrdruf concentration camp near Weim…HD Stock Footage▶ 3:25
          

          My God , – you’ve all been had and had royally by these chumps.
      • Psycho Milt 14.2.2

        6 May 2017 at 9:11 am

        I recall bloated well fed NAZI Waffen SS officers being forced by the US Marines to help in the cleaning up of Auschwitz…

        Well, you may imagine you do, but actually you’ve made it up. The Waffen SS were combat troops (hence the “Waffen” in the name), not concentration camp guards, they weren’t “bloated,” because combat is physically demanding, and the US Marines never made anyone clean up Auschwitz because it’s in Poland. Fact-free ranting just makes you look overly-excitable.
        • peterlepaysan 14.2.2.1

          6 May 2017 at 11:30 pm

          Actually ,no.
          Most but not all Waffen SS groups were deployed as armed fighting troops.

          Many were de[ployed to supervise concentration camp duties. Many were used in the night of long knives destroying Hitlers SA supporters.

          The Waffen were Hitlers and Himmlers personal praetorian guard.
          Yes they did take part in the concentration camp atrocities.
          • Psycho Milt 14.2.2.1.1

            7 May 2017 at 8:00 am

            If you mean some of the Waffen SS who were wounded and rendered combat-unfit were redeployed to the Algemeine (General) SS and used as camp guards, sure. Auschwitz was run by a unit of the Algemeine SS, not the Waffen SS – having combat troops run it would have been ridiculous.
15. The Weatherman 15

    6 May 2017 at 4:07 am

    He let’s the last Hungarian live, in Vietnam…. then….

    See you soon, Gerry.
16. The Weatherman 16

    6 May 2017 at 4:13 am

    He let’s the last Hungarian live, in Vietnam…. then….

    See you soon, Gerry!
    • WILD KATIPO 16.1

      6 May 2017 at 5:12 am

      Brownlee is just a follower , nothing more.

      A Quisling .

      Like a lot of those currently in the National party, … and those that show any gumption , – like Collins – are proven to be just as oafish and riddled with self interest and unfit for ‘leadership’ as Jenny Shipley was .

      This is a party to be despised and ridiculed.

      They have no answers. They have no social conscience nor capacity to deal with issues that affect thousands of their own countrymen and women. They have no regard or concern for them. All of their policy’s are geared towards advancing either foreign interests or those nationals that are affiliated with those foreign interests.

      They have no moral compass. They are as ruthlessly led as the dictates they accept from think tanks such as the Mont Pelerin Society and as lacking in basic values as any common garden variety thief or petty conman.

      They have proven they are subversives. Amply. Time and again they have demonstrated their contempt for our national sovereignty by subjecting our best interests in exchange for the interests and benefits of those who are not New Zealanders by birth.

      It is time we destroy them and others like them at the polls this coming September elections as a future warning to all who aspire to be just like them.

      They are a cancer to any social democracy.
17. Wayne 17

    6 May 2017 at 8:58 am

    Wild Katipo,

    Getting a bit carried away aren’t you?

    The Lab/Gr package will never succeed by adopting such absurd hyperbole.

    Basically you are saying to all those who National that they are stupid dupes. Probably not the best way to win their votes.
    • One Anonymous Bloke 17.1

      6 May 2017 at 9:21 am

      It’s a hard conclusion to dismiss, given what we now know about the amygdala’s role in propaganda, and the National Party’s well-documented propensity for lying.
      • marty mars 17.1.1

        6 May 2017 at 9:29 am

        Wayne will weaponise anything to bash the left, even idiots.
        • One Anonymous Bloke 17.1.1.1

          6 May 2017 at 9:34 am

          😆 😈
        • Tinfoilhat 17.1.1.2

          6 May 2017 at 9:52 am

          I don’t know about that, when it comes to bashing the left we appear to be very good at it ourselves without needing Wayne’s help.
18. peterlepaysan 18

    6 May 2017 at 11:34 pm

    Does anyone know if gerry is deigning to visit that unenlightened, ignorant, economically retarded country known as Finland?
19. Skeptic 19

    8 May 2017 at 5:12 pm

    An Act of Parliament passed by the House of Representatives of New Zealand/

    1. SHORT TITLE
    The short tile of this Act shall be the Mirror Image Act

    2. DEFINITIONS
    “people” shall mean homo sapiens sapiens mammals
    “citizens” shall mean people belonging to a country by birth or granting of citizenship
    “commerce” shall mean trade, industry, banking, farming of all descriptions
    “country” shall also mean state, nation, land or sovereign territory of any type

    3. PURPOSE
    The purpose of this Act shall be to automatically apply the laws and policies of any country as they apply to New Zealand and New Zealand citizens anywhere, to the country and citizens of those countries making those laws or policies.

    4. This Act shall bind the Crown.

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