Cyber hypocrisy

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1. JAB 1

   26 September 2007 at 8:32 pm

   Having read the offensive internet postings by Bill English’s son, it’s a tad ironic that the MP smarts at having his son’s anti-social behaviour reported as offensive and seeks to threaten defamation and repress media coverage.
   This is the same politician who as party leader, only four months out from the 2002 election accepted his Wairarapa candidate’s honourable resignation over the public anti-social behaviour of that candidate’s son. That seemed appropriate at the time as Mr English was running his party campaign based on strong conservative moral behaviour, family values like integrity and respect, and positive parenting.
   Has Mr English changed his moral parenting code now as it took two full weeks after media gave him notice to pull the offensive internet site and respond publicly only to attack the media? Or has the fact that someone in his family is now making these offensive comments about gays, and black and Jews just got too close for comfort? While I wouldn’t want to be in his shoes (or Rory’s for that matter) Mr English should look to the US for the Republican’s performance in their recent elections for the chickens that come home to roost.
   So, the criticism of English now is not that he is wholly accountable for his son’s content, but for the way he responded. He can’t blat on condemning fellow MP Benson-Pope as he did for alleged hypocrisy when he shows that very attribute himself. I bet John Key himself of Jewish heritage would not have made the same calls today on TV and all over the media if it were David Swartz of the Jewish Council making the complaint instead of the gay community!
2. tom-tom 2

   26 September 2007 at 10:45 pm

   Chip off the old block.
3. Policy Parrot 3

   26 September 2007 at 11:14 pm

   How very typical of National…

   Complains when there is serious negative trends in society – for example, bullying in schools, homophobia etc …

   Yet, when the Government announces measures to tackle it, is denigrated as ‘politically correct’.

   States that ‘family values’ is the best way up bringing up children – ‘not teachers and bureaucrats from the PC universe’.

   But the children of said representative(s), who under their allegedly superior moral values upbringing display all of these seriously problematic traits.

   There is no doubt that education starts at home. Maybe said representative should tidy up his own backyard before telling others how raise their own children.
4. ziuzou 4

   27 September 2007 at 8:34 pm

   Firstly,to highlight the immature rantings of a teenager to make comparisons with American high school massacres is a flawed leap of logic. Are we know to expect Rory to form a clique and follow the philopospy of nihilist thinkers? The use of the nauaseating slippery slope argument is alarmist and poor.

   Further, Eddie writes New Zealand does actually have a significant problem with … racial abuse in schools. Is this a problem exclusive to those in the education sector? No. Then what is being done to change the ingrained and institutionalised racism that exists in NZ’s society? We all applaud Hone Harawira’s actions in Australia yet we don’t do nothing ourselves on the ground level.

   Secondly, Bill English defending his son is no different to David Cunliffe’s response to accusations of him and his son after the furore regarding the repeal of Section 59.

   Thirdly, a very speculative connection about the English family trying to bring about the downfall of John Key through a website. I would have thought the National Party caucus is a better means for Bill English to regain the leadership?

   Using the son of politician to score cheap points is lazy and cowardly thinking. The same type of thinking used by Rory.
5. ahod 5

   30 September 2007 at 6:57 pm

   The simple truth is that we are a mixture of the people around us, we act like our friends, but for the most part we form our opinions based on what ideas and morals our parents inflict on us. For a son to place homophobic, anti-Semitic and racist comments on a public forum then it raises the question; What morals and ideas has the English family been inflicting on their children. The ‘chip off the old block’ analogy works well here.
6. Irish Police 6

   12 June 2008 at 3:13 pm

   You guys are loseres grow up. How many of you have seen a more offensive thing then a stick figure trying to get out of a box that was the offensive cartoon wow im gob smaked soooooo offensive. How many of you SMART people who get a kick for making up bull have seen his bebo page it isnt even that bad. You can find a million more worse bebo pages but wat a shock you all focus on the MP’s son this is a injustice. This makes me feel sick when obvious lies are posted against a honest young man. I have the honor of Knowing this great boy and he does not promot racism

   [lprent: ummm this is immediately triggering my troll instincts. Great capitalization, immaculate spelling, innovative lack of use of punctuation, and I have absolutely no idea what is being talked about]
7. higherstandard 7

   12 June 2008 at 3:24 pm

   Is this where the political debate is going demonising partners, spouses and children ?

   For people on this blog to question how Mary English has raised the family really leaves me speechless.
8. Steve Pierson 8

   12 June 2008 at 3:25 pm

   Rory, is that you?

   Bit behind the times, old boy.
9. r0b 9

   12 June 2008 at 3:47 pm

   Is this where the political debate is going demonising partners, spouses and children ? For people on this blog to question how Mary English has raised the family really leaves me speechless.

   I quite agree HS, the family life of public figures is out of bounds. Which is why your hypocrisy really leaves me speechless:
   http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=2150#comment-59948

   higherstandard
   June 11, 2008 at 9:33 am

   Congratulations with such outstanding blinkered behaviour you both appear to be the sons that the Prime Minister wishes she had.

   Go ahead – tell me how it’s “different”.
10. higherstandard 10

    12 June 2008 at 3:49 pm

    rOb

    If you can’t see the difference between my comment and the post I feel sorry for you.
11. Steve Pierson 11

    12 June 2008 at 3:52 pm

    HS.

    a) post from six months ago

    b) the post was in response to Bill English’s attack on Gaynz, saying that Gaynz was correct in its comments.
12. higherstandard 12

    12 June 2008 at 5:25 pm

    Sorry Clinton

    My mistake completely didn’t read the date on the post !

    I though Irish Police was IB and I enjoy reading his comments – then after reading the post got a bit uppity.

    I though it was strange that the the post was here as most of the publishers have been very civil in relation to families and spouse/partners.
13. zANavAShi 13

    12 June 2008 at 11:28 pm

    Hrmmmmm, looks like a good case for a plugin that automatically holds for moderation any comment posted to a thread which hasn’t been commented on for 30 (60, 90 or whatever) days.

    Maybe iffn ya find yourself in a moment of boredom sometime over the weekend eh Lynn (hehehe I know you know I know a devoted php coder never sleeps has a weekend off) 😉
14. Protoss Army 14

    12 July 2008 at 2:12 pm

    Everyone one who has posted a comment here makes me laugh. You really don’t have anything better to do then to grumble on and on about something so UN-important like this hahaha. get a life, serousily!!!! Good on ya Irish police though.

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