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Daily review 02/03/2021

Written By: - Date published: 5:30 pm, March 2nd, 2021 - 29 comments
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This provides Standardistas the opportunity to review events of the day.

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29 comments on “Daily review 02/03/2021 ”

  1. Jilly Bee 1

    Many humble apologies for my multi postings last night. I was trying to simply say 'Wot Weka said'. I was using my smart phone, which wasn't being very smart it seems and wouldn't let me edit before the time was up. I'll make sure I stick to my trusty PC in future.cheeky

  2. joe90 2

    The POS is at it again.

    https://archive.li/s9aOc [warning: this link will take you to KB]

    Boots Theory: Creepy behaviour from David Farrar

    • Muttonbird 2.1

      That is horrific. I guess David Farrar has embraced the entrenchment of intergenerational disenfranchisement.

      He's quite happy to promote landlord blacklist practices which keep some people and their kids in ever increasing cycles of social stress.

      By the way, what crime has this woman committed? Scott Morrison would be proud.

  3. Cricklewood 3

    Have to say the recent comments from Jacinda regarding calling out those not following the 'rules' is a miss step I know she said to do it nicely etc but from what I've seen today at least some people havent seen that part.

    Saw someone getting really nasty to a stranger at countdown and the calls to punish the rulebreakers are I think counterproductive.

    All it will achieve is a climate of fear where people refuse to talk for fear of being singled out. Its completely counter productive.

    • David 3.1

      Agree. I think the messaging from the PM has been off point in 2021. I’m surprised given it was very clear in 2020.

      Maybe a 30 minute drifting daily speech from the podium of truth on TV1at 3pm or 9pm is not the way to communicate to a large part of the population. If someone like myself as a 50 something pakeha male is turned off this form of messaging, goodness knows what the majority of this wonderfully diverse community of 5 million think …

      • Drowsy M. Kram 3.1.1

        Goodness knows indeed. It's a hard road finding the perfect PM – still, no hurry laugh

        Never voted National, so I'm comfortable with the results of the last two general elections, not to mention NZ's COVID-19 health outcomes which are the envy of most other countries.

        Repeated lockdowns are a version of hell – Aucklanders deserve our thanks

        But with the vaccine rolling out at the border and in South Auckland, where those border workers tend to live, the year March 2020 to March 2021 might seem like nothing more than a fever dream. Time, and ordinary life, can resume. When it does, we’ll have Aucklanders (particularly South Aucklanders) to thank for containing the virus all that time. And we can confirm that our government – and, importantly – its structure – are worth keeping.

        New Zealand: A model for curbing the virus

        Truly, the nation is a model for the world to follow. New Zealand’s response to the virus has been among the most successful, together with actions taken by China, Taiwan and Thailand early on in the pandemic. The country of five million has counted just 25 deaths and managed to stamp out the spread of COVID-19, allowing people to return to workplaces, schools and packed sports stadiums without restrictions.

    • Louis 3.2

      The PM's comments have been misrepresented by media.

      "That's actually not what I did..I didn't say..tell the authorities, I said go..talk to your friend..colleague, if they're sick tell them to go home, if you see someone on a bus without a mask & you have a spare one, share it..we should encourage one another to follow the rules…"

      https://covid19.govt.nz/updates-and-resources/latest-updates/covid-19-media-conference-28-february-2/

  4. Anker 4
    • Bullshit David. The messaging is clear. The overwhelming majority of us knew what to do from March till June. The vast majority complied in August except a church group.

    its bullshit the messaging is not clear. We’ve lived with the threat of this virus for over a year now.

    a few people thought the rules didn’t apply to them. It’s Cost the country dearly.

    people like Seymour and Josie Pagani are just looking to pick on the Govt. bloody ironic re Seymour the party of personal responsibility

    • Cricklewood 4.1

      Well clearly it isnt getting through to everybody, but 'calling people out' and naming and shaming is counterproductive to my mind.

      That said a colleague tried to get some advice as they had some contact with school cluster they got a different response everytime they spoke to healthline including get a test but since its unlikely dont self isolate…

      Anyways tension is building social media lynch mobs or people getting aggressive to others they perceive as not following the rules isnt going to help us at all…

  5. Anker 5

    Don’t know if you were referring to me. Don’t think I have named or shamed them. I don’t know who they are.

    What was the different advice? Get a test but don’t self isolate isn’t contradictory. What else were they told.

    I would take responsibility for myself and isolate if I was even a casual contact. I care enough to do anything to stop the spread. It appears

    • Cricklewood 5.1

      Not refering to you, some individuals have been named on social media and have received um some less than generous messages…

      My colleague had firstly dont worry about it, no need to test…

      Then get a test if you have symptoms.

      Then go and get a test just in case but dont worry about self isolating.

      They called healthline several times as the msg from the govt was different to what they were told when they called in…

      They had a student from the school visit them at home…

    • Incognito 5.2

      Get a test but don’t self isolate isn’t contradictory.

      Yes, it is. Stay home until you receive a negative test result.

  6. Muttonbird 6

    Good graphic here. Helps everyone see how easy this virus is to spread.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/437490/covid-19-february-cluster-case-profiles

    • Treetop 6.1

      I did look at this graphic. Unkown source for how case A was infected and unknown how case I was infected but the source of infection is known for case I as a link with the school.

      A school is different to a supermarket as students can be a close contact and classified as a casual plus contact.

      Did D and I have any direct contact?

  7. Ad 7

    So, if Andrew Cuomo resigns and that leaves a clearer pathway for Harris in 2024, does it means she has a real shot against de Santis?

    Harris was supposed to be the LBJ that monstered the Senate for the President. She folded like origami when it came to the minimum wage increase vote.

    Doesn't yet look like Harris is up for the job, let alone a shot at the Presidency. de Santis locks Florida and Texas and the rest of the MasonDixon line and the Mississippi flyover states: that's a steep Democratic climb right there.

  8. Muttonbird 8

    Michael Morrah has been busy. He's now outed the family of cases I, J, K, L and O as Vietnamese which I think is totally inappropriate, but that's Mediaworks for you.

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/03/covid-19-jacinda-ardern-papatoetoe-high-school-principal-want-to-improve-and-review-communications-after-kfc-worker-says-she-was-never-told-to-isolate.html

    I did ask the question the other day why Chris Luxon was so quick to defend this particular family and I think I have the answer.

  9. Anne 9

    Oh look… a splendid example of what Sanctuary was referring to this morning on OM:

    https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300242889/covid19-lets-stop-this-lockdown-blame-game-fingerwagging-wont-get-you-anywhere

    Sounds good until you read the article. Blames everyone including Ardern and government except the ones who knowingly breached the Covid rules.

    A well-designed system understands that people make mistakes. Understands why the rules get broken, then creates incentives to comply.

    Well now, isn't that exactly what Ardern and Bloomfield have been saying for weeks now?

    • Muttonbird 9.1

      It's been amazing to watch the Alt Right beg for increased government surveillance and curtailment of freedoms.

      Almost as if it is politically motivated, and politically motivated only.

  10. Cricklewood 10

    This reply makes less sense since Annes post has been edited but Ill leave as is..

    Trying to contact and actually conract are two very different things… its very clear mistakes have been made we need to learn from them this shitty blame game aint gonna help.

    Does anyone know how quickly govt support comes through if you have to isolate? I worry that if there is a delay or even its availability is not understood financial pressure effects decisions.

    Its a big problem in my wifes home country where quarantine means the loss of work and job. So many people dont test or share contacts out desperation. We need to avoid this at all costs.

    • Anne 10.1

      Apols Cricklewood. I accidently submitted before comment was ready.

      “Trying to contact and actually conract are two very different things… its very clear mistakes have been made we need to learn from them this shitty blame game aint gonna help.”

      Oh yes, I agree with that, its just that Pagani is mixing up facts while omitting other facts. It is not Ardern and Bloomfield or the Sth. Auckland support staff who are playing the blame game as she appears to be inferring.

      Another example :

      Pagani asks “Why have South Auckland leaders mostly been left out of the virus control strategy?”

      Answer: They haven’t. And Efeso Collins has confirmed as much in his own recent comments.

      • Cricklewood 10.1.1

        A couple of Jacindas comments have been ill advised in this case imo and I do worry that officials arn't giving the whole story which has happened previously in regards to covid so I can see a situation where texts get sent but say to a wrong number or to an email address that isnt checked due to lack of internet. Communication should go out with a do you understand reply yes or no. If no response is forthcoming some one needs to physically go out and check to see whats happening.

        As I said earlier pressure is building its now a very fine line we need to walk.

  11. Cricklewood 11

    Also a big plug for https://www.utilitiesdisputes.co.nz/

    I spent 3 months getting the run around from Contact trying to resolve an issue with my gas bills.

    Within 6hrs of contacting them I had Contact ringing me to admit they had failed to read the meter for over a year (despite what my gas bill said re estimates and actuals) and had been under invoicing.

    Once they realized they tried to send me a series of slightly less than enormous invoices to catch up the deficit then brick walled me when I queried and sent payment demands in the hope that I would pay up and go away.

    Given the underbilling was their fault they waived the entire bill if I agreed to withdraw my complaint.

    Seems the utilities disputes has teeth.

    • Sabine 11.1

      excellent outcome!

      • Cricklewood 11.1.1

        Yes cant recommend them highly enough they called my within 30min of contacting them via their website.

        Wish I knew of them earlier I was getting seriously pissed off, luckily with the financial means not to be threatened by their demands for payment. Others wont be so lucky…

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