Daily review 03/06/2022

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1. PsyclingLeft.Always 1

   3 June 2022 at 5:58 pm

   https://www.un.org/en/observances/bicycle-day

   https://www.worldcyclingalliance.org/what-we-do/campaigns/world-bicycle-day/

   https://www.worldenvironmentday.global/

   June 3rd. World Bicycle Day. I rode my Bike (as nearly every day : )

   Its not too late for a Ride…..

   And …this Sunday 5th is World Environment Day
2. Anker 2

   3 June 2022 at 7:59 pm

   https://www.womensliberationfront.org/news/case-update-crisis-conditions-in-california-womens-prisons

   Report from Wolf. (women’s liberation front)
   A California law that allows men to be placed in women’s prisons based purely on their gender identitys. These men are not required to undergo hormones or surgery, and over 300 men have applied.
   One third of these men are sex offenders.
   • Jester 2.1

     4 June 2022 at 12:49 am

     What a ridiculous law. If you have a penis, you go to a men's jail end of.
     • Robert Guyton 2.1.1

       4 June 2022 at 5:38 am

       But what if you've done nothing wrong?
       • Molly 2.1.1.1

         4 June 2022 at 10:00 am

         That's a good riposte, Robert.

         I've noticed that some do this when the topic of women's rights come up. A little joke, a trite redirection.

         Which is not an problem in itself – I smiled at the "But what if you've done nothing wrong?" – but it's usually followed up with no input on the thread topic.

         You might not agree, but I consider it a tactic to dilute any discussion where this happens. (I notice it happens a lot on women's rights threads, or any critique of gender theory – and is used by more than one commenter).

         The impact of introducing men who identify as women into the women's prison estate is having significant impacts on the women there.

         This is worthy of attention and focus, while maintaining a sense of humour.

         It should not – however – be laughed away.
         • Anker 2.1.1.1.1

           4 June 2022 at 10:14 am

           Just read your response Molly.

           Yes the "but what if you have done nothing wrong?" question.

           So if we go with that then we think well that is unfair on all the people who want to change their birth certificate and will never be a threat to women. So it is a matter of who we prioritize isn't it. Men who feel in urgent need to change their legal document asap with no questions asked or the safety of women and girls in prisons, accommodation, refuges, boarding schools, change rooms, sporting competitions etc, etc. No contest really.
           • Molly 2.1.1.1.1.1

             4 June 2022 at 10:29 am

             I was commenting on the effect of Robert's humour – and similar – on some threads.

             I took it to be a simply a response to Jester's "If you have a penis, you go to a men's jail end of."

             I didn't think he was intending for that to be recognised as a comment on the thread itself. He may be the one to clarify otherwise.
             • Robert Guyton …

               4 June 2022 at 10:50 am

               You are correct, Molly (though I'm loathe to explain a joke – that'll kill it dead!)

               I hadn't read the thread at all. Jester's incautious comment caught my eye. I laughed, posted a quip. It may be true that people do this in order to derail a thread or what ever. I didn't. I saw a vulnerable sentence and swooped on it.

               The topic of the thread (I imagine) shouldn't be laughed away.

               I hope though, that Jester's sentence might.
           • RP Mcmurphy 2.1.1.1.1.2

             8 June 2022 at 5:54 pm

             what if you are lesbian trapped in a mans body?
       • Anker 2.1.1.2

         4 June 2022 at 10:09 am

         Hi Robert, do you mean what if you want to change your birth cert to reflect your gender identity rather than your biological sex and you are not a criminal and extremely unlikely to be one?

         Well before gender self ID was introduced there was a process for doing this through the family court that provided some safe guarding. No systerm is 100%, but it least it did provide some checks and balances. Changing your birth certificate, an official document is a big deal, so why not go carefully with this. Personally I would put the safety of women above enabling a no questions asked change to a birth certificate.

         SUFW didn't want the Family Court process rolled back, they just wanted to keep the safe guard (there voices of coure were drowned out in the cries of "bigot")

         Thanks for asking the question.
         • Robert Guyton 2.1.1.2.1

           4 June 2022 at 10:50 am

           "Hi Robert, do you mean …"

           Nope.
         • Visubversa 2.1.1.2.2

           4 June 2022 at 11:05 am

           I resigned as a Justice of the Peace because of precisely that process. If you are going to create a biological fiction and then enforce it as a legal fiction – there needs to be a robust process. Like the one we have had for some time. A Statutory Declaration is how you say that you are telling the truth about where you live to get your child into school, or that you were not driving your car in that bus lane etc. It is not the process by which you should be able to remove the last item of documentation which tells the truth about your actual SEX.
3. roblogic 3

   3 June 2022 at 11:38 pm

   Good song, In honour of a commenter annoying everyone on TS lately

   [deleted]

   [that looks like flaming to me – weka]
   • Molly 3.1

     4 June 2022 at 7:05 am

     I haven't been as active on TS lately, so did I miss where robust debate was abandoned and bullying became the norm?
   • weka 3.2

     4 June 2022 at 9:35 am

     mod note
     • roblogic 3.2.1

       4 June 2022 at 9:40 am

       Pretty mild IMHO but OK.

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