Daily Review 07/10/2015

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1. weka 1

   7 October 2015 at 6:04 pm

   the paper version of the ODT had this as the quote of the day today,

   It is time for opposition parties and ordinary New Zealanders to force the Government to step away, and make it clear to National that failing to do so will carry the ultimate electoral penalty.

   see also http://www.odt.co.nz/news/politics/358361/tpp-deal-traversty-democracy
   • Draco T Bastard 1.1

     8 October 2015 at 1:19 pm

     Unfortunately the ultimate electoral penalty is essentially meaningless. It doesn’t actually cost them anything. They know that they’ll get voted back in in a term or three and will just continue with their damaging policies then.

     We really do need to become a full democracy rather than an elected dictatorship. Take the power off the politicians and invest it in the people.
2. Idiot/Savant 2

   7 October 2015 at 6:05 pm

   “Witnesses said it had long hair and the shape of a rat, but that its sharp-toothed, bearded face was evilly human while its paws were like tiny human hands. It took messages betwixt old Keziah and the devil, and was nursed on the witch’s blood—which it sucked like a vampire. Its voice was a kind of loathsome titter, and it could speak all languages.”
   • lprent 2.1

     7 October 2015 at 7:00 pm

     Lovecraft? Reads like him or one of his acolytes.
3. weka 3

   7 October 2015 at 6:05 pm

   Gen Zero sent this out today re climate change action (things we can do),

   They’re asking people to pledge to march in the global People’s Climate March in November in the lead up the the Paris talks,

   http://www.peoplesclimatemarch.org.nz/pledge?splash=1

   Dear —
   Earlier this year, thousands of us called on our Government to be ambitious and show leadership on climate change. The reaction from the Minister of Climate Change was cynical — accusing you and the hundreds of business groups, doctors and senior academics of being just “environmental groups”. [1] [2]

   Yes, many of us are motivated by wanting to care for the environment, but equally this is about caring for people and for our common future. We need to show our leaders that this is not just an issue for environmentalists; Kiwis from all walks of life are demanding real climate action.

   We have a plan to make our voice heard and show that we are a broad coalition of people demanding leadership on climate change for many different reasons. How? By marching in cities across New Zealand in November as part of the global People’s Climate March before the UN climate negotiations in Paris.

   Will you join us at the People’s Climate March?

   Right now, we are working with a diverse range of groups including social justice organisations, unions, faith groups, students and health advocates, as well as environmental groups, building the largest and most diverse climate mobilisation New Zealand has seen. These groups are coming together out of concern for the threat climate change poses to our families, our homes and our jobs – and also because tackling climate change is an opportunity to build a better future powered by 100 percent renewable energy.

   Many of us have put effort into writing letters and submissions, attending events, and having conversations about climate change with our friends and family. Now, it’s time to take to the streets.

   It’s easy to feel disheartened by the continued lack of action by the Government – but we have to keep going and building the strength of our movement. As former Prime Minister Sir Geoffrey Palmer said at a talk about climate change in Dunedin just this week – “Don’t think the instruments of democracy don’t work. They do. But you’ve got to have the citizenry making a lot of noise.” [3]

   Make some noise with us!

   The road to a safe climate future doesn’t end at Paris – this march is part of a national movement that will last well beyond November.

   With excitement,
   Nina, Ryan, Paul, Rosalee, Clare and the Generation Zero team
   http://www.generationzero.org/
   http://www.peoplesclimatemarch.org.nz/
4. maui 4

   7 October 2015 at 7:19 pm

   Groser said on one news tonight that even he doesn’t know all the details of what been agreed to in the TPPA. So the lone person bargaining for a collective of 4.5 million people isn’t quite sure what he’s traded away for us. Inspiring.
   • northshoredoc 4.1

     7 October 2015 at 7:48 pm

     I don’t think Groser was the lone person negotiating on behalf of NZ, he may have been the lead negotiator but like other countries I’m sure there would have been a reasonably large team involved.
     • Jenny Kirk 4.1.1

       7 October 2015 at 9:39 pm

       Come on, NS Doc – get a bit real for a change. ANY competent person, let alone a Minister with briefing aides, would know what the details are in an agreement he’s the main person on. You’re saying its okay for Groser to be incompetent ?
       You’re saying the negotiating “team” would not have had daily briefings on what each person is doing, and someone there would not have been taking extensive notes which would be shared around the others ? In other words, its okay to have dumb bunnies doing the negotiating on a country’s behalf ! Nonsense.
       • northshoredoc 4.1.1.1

         7 October 2015 at 9:47 pm

         What I said was I don’t think Groser was the lone person negotiating on behalf of NZ, he may have been the lead negotiator but like other countries I’m sure there would have been a reasonably large team involved.

         I’m also prepared to say it’s not surprising the Grosser does not know all the details of the TPPA.

         But hey perhaps someone should find to the actual quote from grosser and then people on this site could have an endless debate on whether what he said was taken in or out of context.
         • maui 4.1.1.1.1

           7 October 2015 at 10:49 pm

           Ok, I checked, he has a team of about 15 people with him. What I’m worried about now is if the people with the detail are able to filter their knowledge through to Groser so he can make the big calls on our behalf. How much sway do the aides have in the decision making process or does it all come down to Groser? What are the communication levels like between the team? All relevant questions. This is all in a time limited, high pressure, sleep deprived environment. Probably not ideal conditions for this sort of thing.
           • Melanie Scott 4.1.1.1.1.1

             8 October 2015 at 10:02 am

             So Groser had lots of help bargaining away our future. You would have thought one of the numbskulls would have worked out that, making big concessions on dairy AT THE END of the whole deal process, AFTER meekly caving to all the previously dealt with bargaining points – pharmaceuticals, asset sales to foreign nationals, intellectual propertey et al. It left them with not much more to ‘trade off’ against the big issue (so they told us) – dairy.
5. timbo 5

   7 October 2015 at 8:54 pm

   SO now we know where Our Beloved Leader has been these past few days; practising his Willie Apiata look-alike fantasies in the desert somewhere.

   Every day he was out of the country seemed like a day with Kim Hill on Morning Report wasted. Can anyone else hold him to account??
6. vto 6

   7 October 2015 at 10:04 pm

   Have watched a few Putin interviews now and they continue to impress … check this out …

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQuceU3x2Ww

   can you see shallowmanKey doing something like that? ha ha ha ha ha Key is such a manchild
   • maui 6.1

     7 October 2015 at 11:03 pm

     Wow, impressive!
   • grumpystilskin 6.2

     8 October 2015 at 7:48 am

     Putin is 100x the man key wishes he could be.

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