Daily Review 16/09/2016

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  1. Lanthanide 1
    16 September 2016 at 6:01 pm

    You should use this image for the next Daily Review: http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/2165492/83582279.jpg

  2. AveJoe 2
    16 September 2016 at 6:04 pm

    Since when did issues around equality and respecting the treaty become about the right to exploit others and the environment?

    The debate around fishery rights under the treaty is really pissing me off. Maori were granted custodianship, not an unfettered mining right.

  3. b waghorn 3
    16 September 2016 at 7:07 pm

    Enviro question of the day.
    My household produces about a plastic shopping bag of non recyclable non ,biodegradable rubbish a week am i better to burn it or chuck in the hole .?

    • Sabine 3.1
      16 September 2016 at 7:44 pm

      what rubbish is it? and can you prevent buying it.

      i.e. those foam plates that some supermarkets use to put their meat on. If you buy your meat at the counter you can refuse these and just have your meant packed in a standard little bag and wrapped in paper.

      but burning it. Not sure if you don’t just get poisonous smoke from that.

      Also, and i like doing that, leave any food packaging that is not necessary to get your food home at the supermarket. i.e. corn flakes are in a plastic bag and a big carton, leave carton at the supermarket. Do the same for anything that has clear wrapping, carton, and more carton for one item. Toothpaste for example. It seems its always 3 bags of rubbish for every bag of groceries.
      I don’t shop at pak n save or similar anymore, always go to the local butcher, veggie and bulkbin shop. My recycle bin is full every 6 weeks or so. And i barely have a full rubbish bag per week.

      • b waghorn 3.1.1
        16 September 2016 at 8:16 pm

        You’re a hard woman i thought i was doing pretty good having one small bag a week.

        • Sabine 3.1.1.1
          16 September 2016 at 9:05 pm

          actually i think i have just gone back to the days of old really. And in saying that, i am probably still not doing enough. but most of what is in my recycle bin are milk containers – no raw milk filling station where i live other wise i would go there with glass containers, eggs come in a bucket from the paddock of paradise where 60+ chucks munch on worms and other stuff – i hear they luv it’a.
          Now with the garden that i have bought i can finally grow a few of my veggies, digging around i came across some berries the other day, peach tree, plum tree, two different apples, humongous walnut tree ( the confection maker in me is happy as) and what ever else i shall dig out. I did find chives, lemon balm, lemon thyme in another little area.

          Now sadly with the shop it is not quite so easy, but we are getting better at getting raw ingredients that are not entombed in plastic, carton, paper and what nots.

          Years ago in Germany there was a push to remove excess packaging from groceries and the likes. Basically people where just fed up having to pay for the extra packaging when buying the product and then again having to dispose of it, so people just left it behind in the supermarkets. Which led to Supermarkets in Germany now to having recycling bins for Cans, Glass, Cartonage, Bio Mass and other stuff. I think this is how it should be. As a side effect a lot of the extra packaging (essentially just to bulk the product as is done with anything cosmetic such as creams etc) has just been now minimized as the supermarkets did not actually want to carry the cost having to get all that rubbish removed.

          http://earth911.com/earth-watch/trash-planet-germany/

    • gsays 3.2
      16 September 2016 at 7:58 pm

      good question wags.
      i have the same enquiry about tanalised timber off cuts.
      burn them into the atmosphere (and the neighbours roof) or into a hole for the water table to absorb.

      • Andre 3.2.1
        16 September 2016 at 8:10 pm

        If you burn the tanalised timber, all the chrome, copper and arsenic is immediately turned to smoke and ash, easily absorbed through lungs and dissolved in rainwater (and corrodes your chimney). If you bury it, it releases over a much longer time (as the wood finally decays) so it is much less likely to reach a toxic concentration.

      • b waghorn 3.2.2
        16 September 2016 at 8:20 pm

        That is how stupid we are. there are trees like totara for post and douglas fir for framing that need no treatment but Oh No we no best let’s grow rubbish radiata and fill it full of chemicals.

        • mauī 3.2.2.1
          16 September 2016 at 8:40 pm

          Yep it’s only the 21st century and we haven’t developed a smart, long term, common sense approach to many things we do. Instead it’s the unthinking, exploitative, short cut model.

          • Sabine 3.2.2.1.1
            16 September 2016 at 9:20 pm

            well according to the Star Trek Legends we need to await the arrivals of the Vulcans to get worp drive and then enlightenment. So sadly nothing is gonna happen in our lifetime. Doh!

    • Andre 3.3
      16 September 2016 at 8:35 pm

      If it’s gonna stay in a hole and never get out to blow around into rivers and the sea, then buried is a good place for it. Like Sabine says, burning it releases all kinds of nasties. There’s a few trash-to-energy incinerators around the world, but they have really complex and expensive scrubbers to try and remove the nasties from the exhaust.

      If you take it to a landfill, the landfill should have been constructed with an impermeable base, and then finally capped with an impermeable layer of something like clay. So it shouldn’t leach nasties into the groundwater, and the methane from decomposition is hopefully dealt with by something better than just letting it escape into the atmosphere. So a proper landfill disposal is better than your own small hole.

      +1 for Sabine’s try not to bring it home in the first place.

  4. ianmac 4
    16 September 2016 at 8:56 pm

    A few years ago our weekly rubbish was one council bag full.
    Then came the age of our weekly recycle bin.
    Now the bin is full and the rubbish bag is full. Where does it all come from??? Little or no food is put out in the rubbish. (Compost.)

  5. AveJoe 5
    17 September 2016 at 12:54 am

    And you don’t want to piss me off.

  6. mosa 6
    17 September 2016 at 2:54 pm

    That graphic with a picture of the PM on it… Christ Key has aged no wonder they only let him out of the coffin every now and again.
    Good National party campaign material though.

  7. Pat 7
    17 September 2016 at 9:51 pm

    at last someone with profile beginning to say publicly what needs to be said…

    http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/201815931/business-commentator-rod-oram