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The current rise of populism challenges the way we think about people’s relationship to the economy.We seem to be entering an era of populism, in which leadership in a democracy is based on preferences of the population which do not seem entirely rational nor serving their longer interests. ...
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Border closed to all but returning citizens and residents.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/120423903/coronavirus-prime-minister-to-make-announcement-on-border-controls
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/03/prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-announces-total-new-zealand-border-closure.html
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/412162/live-nz-to-close-its-borders-to-anyone-not-a-citizen-or-permanent-resident-pm-confirms
Tourist spots are already empty, the Dunedin Train Station where normally there's crowds of people is completely empty.
There are still loads of freedom campers in Motueka.
how many do you think are Kiwis?
Not many, if any, at that particular spot (main carpark behind the Isite).
However we do now have an assessment clinic, pretty happy about that 🙂
Makes sense, I guess the usual movement of oldies in mobile homes at this time of year will be subdued.
Hey! I am 73, and tomorrow I am going to drive and sleep in my 1974 Kombi Camper van!
It's a good decision to close the borders.
Oh Dear! Oz has done the same. My partner and I live on a boat as can't afford anything else. The boat is in Brisbane, we are in NZ. Because we have NZ passports, we now can't get back to our only home and only have a tent here. Interesting times!
Where in NZ are you Koff?
Whangarei – we're just a minor blip on the radar. No worries, we understand the need for closing the border and will work around it. We have good friends here and are more concerned about abandoning our boat. Not the only mini drama happening around the world to be sure!
Sweet.
The Aussie border closes tomorrow at 9pm – theoretically there is still time to go back.
That cannot possibly be true.
At 1pm today the PM herself told us that.
"Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has quashed rumours that the Government is set to announce a total lockdown across the country to combat coronavirus.". Then she said
"She stressed for people to only trust official Government sources as misinformation only fuelled public panic."
and that ""We will continue to be your single source of truth. Everything else you see, a grain of salt."
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/120380390/coronavirus-countrywide-lock-down-speculation-dismissed-by-prime-minister
In other words, as we now see, the rumours were totally correct. Oh well, what can one expect from a bunch like the CoL.
OMzg!!! The dynamic unfolding situation is … dynamic and unfolding! Stay safe Alwyn.
Yep, I Feel Love, the situation is indeed dynamic and unfolding – very much a moveable feast. Sheesh, those rumours originated overseas (Russian social media) and spread everywhere. I usually bite my lip and refuse to respond to Alwyn’s rants, but couldn’t help my self this time. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/18/russian-media-spreading-covid-19-disinformation?fbclid=IwAR2IFPlSXqz2OUDgR30-S4I4jbFU0L-WmwHqhAhKAnujJrh2AJsL-cjvsF8
You're being silly.
No PM is ever going to release policy by saying "oooh, good rumour, you might be onto something there". It's not a guessing game for kids on a car journey.
And she was right. There isn't a "total lockdown across the country".
Is the country in total lockdown? No, not even close. You know how this goes. Next time I'll warn in bold, then I'll moderate. You're welcome to be here, but not with the bullshit and politicising around a national emergency like this. I've been through this many times with you before. Learn to make your words straight and plain or you're out.
Sad to say, in my experience alwyn is not here to be straight and plain.
Well, the video in your link doesn't match the description in the report, and given that I'm about to pop outside to the supermarket at least my part of the country does not seem to have been "locked down".
Interesting, the way public fears in a pandemic haven't stopped you lying to spread alarm and despondency. As imaginative as Simon bridges.
Except DarLing Alwyn, the PM Is correct and we are not in a countrywide lockdown. So your ignorance shows you up to be a DarL (Dumb-arse, rabid, Loser)
[Do you mind? Right now we should be civil to each other – MS]
[Our Moderation must have crossed because I’d just written this:
Deleted; inflammatory, insulting, and not helpful – Incognito]
My apologies to the Moderators, but not to Alwyn as they constantly use CoL, I was simply replying in kind, perhaps now could be a time that CoL be stamped on.
When pushing back, please do this without getting personal and nasty (tit-for-tat).
Personally, I use CoL = Coalition of Labour but I seem to be in the minority. If people use it in the other negative way, there usually is something else that Moderators (need to) focus on; CoL is a useful ‘red flag’ in that sense.
Thank you for your comment, I totally respect your moderation. Personally I see anyone using CoL as giving credibility to the posters who come here who have for the last two years been attacking the Government and those that support it with the Loser moniker. I guess if I don't want that to grind my gears, a period of self-isolation from The Standard, will be better for my wellbeing. Bye for now.
Understood. You could skip those commenters who tend to grind your gears and continue reading and contributing here on The Standard; these are testing times.
The rumour was that all but essential businesses were going to be shut tomorrow.
If they do go to all but essential businesses I hope the government see freezing works as essential. Due to the severe drought a halt on the works will mean farmers getting to the point of killing stock and chucking them in a whole .
Winter is coming.
I would think food supply chains will be a priority. Two dollar shops at the other end of the spectrum.
"This cannot be true.'
Correct.
@Alwyn (1.4) … PM Ardern is correct. At this stage, government is not intending putting the country in to lockdown. The government has closed the borders. Two totally different issues.
Only if CV19 becomes community based, then I'm picking we could see lockdowns of local services.
New Zealands statistics on Covid-19 infections are useless junk ,,,, and rapid community spread is almost certainly taking place right now.
The figures are junk because as of Monday and Tuesday this week, you were not eligible for a test UNLESS you had returned from travelling overseas.
Obviously and logically such rules would give the statistic of Zero, for people contracting the infection through community spread…
Even if presenting all the symptoms of Covid-19. AND having been in contact with a person who had travelled overseas ,, AND the person who had returned from overseas had flu / Covid19 symptoms themselves ,,, Even if presenting that Trifecta of elevated risk , the non travelling New Zealander were not eligable to be tested.
Dwell on that and think it through ,,,,
The reason I know all this, is because I requested a test for myself and a couple of my friends, as we have all come down with 'the flu / bad colds, after being in close prolonged contact with a person who had returned from the Philippines / Manila ,,, and I was told I did not meet the critera for testing. The original traveller and vector for our 'Flu / cold believed Covid19 is a hoax, and has still not got himself tested.
The Philippines at that stage (Feb ) had supposed low numbers of cases, probably related to near zero testing. The nice hotel the traveller was staying at had approximatly 70% of its guests Chinese people.
I think the refusal to test us non-travelling NZers could have been related to the low number of tests available here ,,, From the MOH website on Monday "Our current capacity is 770 tests for COVID-19 each day and we expect that to be around 1500 per day later this week." ,,,, "However, we also need to ensure that the right people are tested – that is people with a history of recent overseas travel; those who have been in contact with a case; and with symptoms suggestive of COVID-19. https://www.health.govt.nz/news-media/media-releases/covid-19-three-new-cases-linked-overseas
To sum up the 'bug' I'm getting over probably has a 95% chance or higher of just being a normal cold / flu, that the Philippine travller brought back ,,, BUT that means a certain percentage of people in similar circumstances WILL have the bad bug ,,, and in NZ we were not testing these people.
I conclude the lack of community spread in NZ is actually a lack of knowledge ,,, and we are not even reacting to unfolding events , let alone being pro active.
Response wise I would place NZ somewhere between The Philippines and Italy, probably on par with the UK.
Well I hope you're taking some personal responsibility and self isolating.
And getting the vaccine when it's available.
p.s
This is the only post I will be making on this matter here ,,,, as The Standard is a bad place for me, where a main author would rather molly coddle war criminals and another author, TRP, allow posters to abuse sex abuse survivors. ie james and the alien
[This is the only post you will making on any matter here. Again, you attacked Authors and commenters here despite having been warned about this in the past. You have form. Last time you were banned 2 months for a stupid bilious defamatory rant. https://thestandard.org.nz/cmon-aussie/#comment-1647403. The Standard is a good place but you are a bad apple and in these stressful times, we need commenters like you like the plague. Banned for 18 months until a vaccine will hopefully be available against COVID-19 – Incognito]
See my Moderation note @ 6:25 PM.
Exceptional ‘Murican
https://twitter.com/apblake/status/1240259349047631874
'Murican exceptionalism.
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1240417745419882501
Basically what I saw as I was working on Castle & Leith St on St Pats day … if they do close the university that whole student suburb will erupt in madness, the Campus Watch ppl try their best but there isn't much they can do but gently ask drunk kids to climb off the roofs of houses.
Well I for one sincerely hope they don't end up with mumps and its consequences. Heaven forbid our future leaders should be unable to pass on their wunnerful genes.
You know what…. I'm suddenly happy that these people don't vote….. Things could be even worse globally if they did 😂😷
Just curious, why has not the flu jab been brought forward, so that it is currently available and would reduce the chance of someone having both C19 and the flu, plus waiting until the 1st will now place greater pressure on those administering the jab. "For most people, the best time to be vaccinated against influenza is just before the start of the winter season – in New Zealand, this is between April and June. It takes 2 weeks after vaccination for the vaccine to be fully effective".
https://www.healthnavigator.org.nz/medicines/i/influenza-vaccine/
Flu jab has been brought forward by two weeks. My quack said it should be in next week. I missed out last year, but as an eligible recipient, I’m getting one as soon as possible, mainly for the first reason you stated.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12317607
Thanks I missed that – With all that is going on, for someone who follows much of the current events it is difficult keeping up, not sure how those that are more passive regarding news is able to follow and keep abreast of what is happening.
15th April coincides with middle of school holidays – That cramps the time to immunise for many (that is if schools, EC centres are still open). The Drs surgery will be like a McD drive thru.
Bought forward to now for those most at risk – over 65s, those with chronic conditions etc ie those who qualify for a free jab like I do. Everyone else will wait until 15th April.
One more for the conspiracy theorists.
Time for some more blues battling boogie songs.
Freaks by Timmy Trumpet & Savage.
(Music Video 2014)
Planet Earth by Duran Duran.
(Music Video 1981)
Will Brian Tamaki, best mate of Jesus, get clobbered for holding 100+ indoor meetings?
Can't legislate stupid.
Health Act has a pretty solid go, though.
Some of those powers give me the willies.
Then don't read the Epidemic Act of 2006…
Wow.
BT carries on as if he is the law so no change there.
Probably not holding back on the rehetoric about gods will or some shit like that self promoting his brand of church.