Daily review 18/11/2024

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12 comments on “Daily review 18/11/2024 ”

  1. bwaghorn 1
    18 November 2024 at 5:40 pm

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360489590/sir-ian-taylor-why-i-think-its-time-debate-about-treaty

    I agree mostly with Ian Taylor ,(he thinks there is a place for haka in parliament to )except it's pointless to debate seymour because he wants the treaty erased and will not bend from that direction.

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    • dv 1.1
      18 November 2024 at 5:52 pm

      I haven't seen Seymour debating– all I've seen is rubbish.

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    • alwyn 1.2
      18 November 2024 at 6:58 pm

      " he wants the treaty erased".

      When you say "he" are you talking about Taylor? I wasn't aware that he held that view.

      If you mean Seymour on the other hand you are in fantasy land. He doesn't want to get rid of the treaty or even to alter it in any way. He merely wants to come up with a proper definition of what the "principles of the treaty" are to be in New Zealand Law. He, like many other people want to get rid of the rubbish that lawyers and Judges are inventing because they would like to have them in there ideal world where Parliament doesn't make the Law but the higher Nabobs of the Bar get to define it.

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      • Muttonbird 1.2.1
        18 November 2024 at 7:32 pm

        You've gone down the nut job rabbit hole there, attacking courts and judges whose expert legal opinion you don't like.

        Seymour wants to enforce how the treaty is interpreted with principles which have Māori erased from them. Māori are mentioned once in 'principle 2' as an afterthought, but only to tell them what they signed can no longer be honoured if a white person gets upset about it.

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      • SPC 1.2.2
        18 November 2024 at 7:33 pm

        You believe the narrative others have crafted for you to believe. This is because you want to.

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  2. Dennis Frank 2
    18 November 2024 at 7:10 pm

    I was wondering why nobody was accusing Seymour of being racist, then I recalled that he's part-Maori. Then I wondered why racism continues to be a trendy accusation, when it was proved that there's no scientific basis for the notion of race quite a while back.

    I suppose lots of adults never out-grew the name-calling habit they acquired when young. I decided to check out a definition anyway:

    racism, the belief that humans may be divided into separate and exclusive biological entities called “races”; that there is a causal link between inherited physical traits and traits of personality, intellect, morality, and other cultural and behavioral features; and that some races are innately superior to others. https://www.britannica.com/topic/racism

    That has been subdivided into a triad of meanings, presumably sourced from empirical observation of common usage. The first usage is arbitrary, the second is biological/psychological linkage, and the third is hierarchical rating. The triad, in toto, makes it clear that people do this categorisation without referring to science as authority. So although realists will condemn the (mis)behaviour, pragmatists will observe that it is human nature to make it up as you go along, regardless…

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    • Muttonbird 2.1
      18 November 2024 at 7:36 pm

      I'll happily accuse Seymour of being racist if it makes you feel better. Funny sort of Māori he is, like he's never seen a haka before, certainly doesn't understand what they are all about.

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    • SPC 2.2
      18 November 2024 at 7:44 pm

      3% Maori via his great great great grandmother. She was of Northland (and had some descendants in Gisborne). His own mother was raised in Gisborne, his father in the Manawatu. While he was later raised in Whangarei, he did not know any (living) relatives who had been on a marae. His knowledge of Maori people was via children at primary school and intermediate (he went to Auckland Grammar university and then his 20's in Canada). Thus no cultural connection at all.

      The western regime is of a "religion heritage and cultural framework, one that included imperialism. And its remnant form includes capitalism (successor to feudalism as a form of rentier economy).

      Sometimes imposed by conquest, Norman on England and then onto the colonies.

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  3. Kat 3
    18 November 2024 at 8:05 pm

    David Seymour is merely a modern day hybrid marionette making all the moves as his strings are pulled by his puppeteers……..every colour equal in one big soup, but only certain whites control the ladle………Hobson's choice really……

    Oh, flat tax rate anyone……..

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