No policy?

20 comments on “No policy? ”

• Comments are now closed

1. Robin Capper 1

   14 September 2008 at 2:34 pm

   As I write all the policy on http://www.labour.org.nz/policy.html is from 2005. Does that mean no new ideas?
2. weka 2

   14 September 2008 at 2:52 pm

   http://www.national.org.nz/policies/policies.aspx

   Their page of discussion documents isn’t much better:

   http://www.national.org.nz/discussiondocs.aspx

   Four items, the most recent from 2nd October 2007. Did they not realise there would be an election this year?
3. illuminatedtiger 3

   14 September 2008 at 3:21 pm

   I think the whole idea of discussion documents is dishonest in itself. Something they can use to test the waters and if people don’t like it they can do their usual flip-flops around it.
4. Jeeves 4

   14 September 2008 at 4:02 pm

   Fuck. Imagine trying to set policy around what the electorate wants. How irresponsible of National. You wont win the election by repeating “secret agenda flip flops” sounds like something Crosby Textor would tell you to say.
5. r0b 5

   14 September 2008 at 4:16 pm

   Imagine trying to set policy around what the electorate wants. How irresponsible of National.

   If that was what they were doing I would indeed be happy. But what they are doing is setting their story around what the electorate wants, while planning to enact their old 90’s policy if they manage to deceive their way into office. That’s a little different eh.

   sounds like something Crosby Textor would tell you to say.

   Interesting that you use CT as your measuring stick for amoral tactics Jeeves. So do I. Remind me again which party is using them? Oh wait – it’s National. Right Oh Jeeves.
6. theodore steel 6

   14 September 2008 at 4:34 pm

   Perhaps you should have a look on scoop etc, see just how many policies National has released (other than the ones Trevor released for them) it is well over 20… and that was some time ago.

   Labour have not released any policies. None. Zero.

   As was proven by the fact checking Pols students on Agenda this morning.

   Stick. Eye.

   There is a difference between a browser compatibility error and not having any policy.
7. bill brown 7

   14 September 2008 at 4:46 pm

   theodore,

   The “Labour have not released any policies line” was last week’s. Haven’t you got your updated PowerPoint presentation for this week yet?

   Please try to keep up, thanks.
8. r0b 8

   14 September 2008 at 4:47 pm

   Here you go theo – a thread just for you: http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=2973

   Also, in her speech on Friday the PM said that Labour will soon be releasing further policy for the 08 election. I’m looking forward to it too – Labour releasing leaked National for them policies was getting dull.
9. theodore steel 9

   14 September 2008 at 4:52 pm

   Oh right, of course. I must have missed the email. How odd, usually they are marked VRWC so I know to read them.

   Good, will be nice to have something to debate with the Labour candidates and supporters.

   r0b, government policy is not the same and cannot be compared to the plans National has outlined for the FUTURE of the country. We want to know where they are going, not where they have been.
10. randal 10

    14 September 2008 at 4:56 pm

    the reason they have no policy is Keys loses his temper when he is questioned so they are just stonewalling as long as possible
11. sean 11

    14 September 2008 at 5:02 pm

    Sorry, but this is a terrible thread – you guys really should change your name to “The Strawman” – someone’s browser stuffed up and that means National have no policy???
12. bill brown 12

    14 September 2008 at 5:20 pm

    Well, sean, I just went there now and got no error messages and no policy – so no policy it is then.

    Interestingly, for a party who’s supposed to be “ambitious” I note their latest press releases have the following titles:

    * Confirmation HMNZS Canterbury procurement flawed
    * Labour ignores health system crisis
    * National welcomes election date
    * Heartless Dyson strikes again
    * Scandal-mired Labour missing economic action

    These look pretty negative to me. Not to mention wrong, if you watched Agenda today you’ll now know the first one is total fiction.
13. r0b 13

    14 September 2008 at 5:22 pm

    r0b, government policy is not the same and cannot be compared to the plans National has outlined for the FUTURE of the country

    That’s certainly true theo, but perhaps not in the sense that you mean. Government policy is the real world, it happens, agree with it or not we all know what it is. Recently passed government policy (especially the ETS) is all about the FUTURE of our country for decades to come.

    National’s “policy” as released, however, is in many cases an insincere Labour lite facade, a naked attempt to deceive their way into office. It has little to do with the reality of what National would do in government, which is take us back to the PAST.
14. schrodigerscat 14

    14 September 2008 at 5:33 pm

    Should be looking at the billboards and http://www.labour08.org.nz though even there some of the links don’t work
15. Greg 15

    14 September 2008 at 5:42 pm

    Did you see the fact checking about Agenda, Lockwood Smith claimed that the first policy released by Labour was National’s. Proposterous of course…….. only they found that to be true. That’s why this whole policy thing is a tad hypocritical.
16. sean 16

    14 September 2008 at 6:03 pm

    turn it up bill – unless you’re on a desert island, National have a lot more policy out there than Labour do. Arguing on semantics just makes you look like an apologist.
17. weka 17

    14 September 2008 at 7:26 pm

    Perhaps you should have a look on scoop etc, see just how many policies National has released (other than the ones Trevor released for them) it is well over 20 and that was some time ago.

    theodore, I don’t think that press releases count as actual policy that outlines details.

    Both Labour and the Greens have their policy from the last election on their website with stated intentions to update for this election. National has nothing except press releases.
18. jaymam 18

    14 September 2008 at 8:01 pm

    John Key must not be popular in Remuera. Whoever put up his billboard has put a screw through Key’s neck. Is that to make him look like Herman Munster?

    http://i34.tinypic.com/2d13fgh.jpg
19. randal 19

    14 September 2008 at 8:31 pm

    turn it up sean. you are just making it up as you go along. everybody knows that ntional does have a policy but they wont release it because a) they wont win the election if the majority is apprised of its real nature, and b)if keys is questioned he loses his rag and then they wont win the election. they are just relying on radio solid gold, radio snakeoil, the eb’s and a compliant conniving colluding press and msm to try and crosbytextor the people into voting for pie in the sky!
20. the sprout 20

    14 September 2008 at 9:04 pm

    ah jaymam, that’s actually in the photo itself, it’s Key’s USB input – it’s normally covered with a polo neck

• Comments are now closed

• Log in
• Donate
• Contribute post

• Articles RSS