This is not our usual fare, but still needs discussion. Gareth Morgan was right all along. All cats should be kept inside from dusk to dawn. And this from someone who loves, and always had, cats.
Hi Stephen. Well the feral cat carnage is a thing I was going to put up recently too. And agree no cat "hater" here…..
But
Feral cats are estimated to number in the millions.
"We have to have a conversation about it if we're going to ensure our unique, endangered wildlife doesn't become extinct. And it’s not about being anti-cat," says Tamsin Orr-Walker, chair of Kea Conservation Trust.
Predator Free New Zealand Trust chief executive Jessi Morgan says they are one of New Zealand's worst ecological problems because of the "impact a single cat can have".
"Our native species aren't equipped to deal with them," she says.
I catch cats in traps in my garden and shoot them.
If 1000's more did this in NZ the cat problem would be under control. Many areas now have "back-yard trapping" organisations. If you don't have an organisation in your area then set one up.
I bought my trap, which also catches stoats, possums and hedgehogs, online for about $65.
This keeping cats in at night has been law in Australia for ages, and it works, though their bird life numbers are falling along with native flowering plants and insects, which imo is a contributor to losses.
It's often counter-productive when the debate around introduced pests goes down the single species path. Aotearoa has a comprehensive suite of introduced pest species that in a very short time has evolved an interdependence on each other as well as annihilating our indigenous biodiversity.
Removing one species often / usually provides an opportunity for species down the food chain to prosper. Sometimes these species are indigenous and we think we've done really well, other times the primary beneficiary is other introduced pests.
In local example a very large number of ferrets were removed from and area to manage a TB hotspot, now the same area has a rabbit problem that is proving very difficult to resolve, there's other factors at play in in this case around collective responsibility for rabbit control but this was the case before the ferrets were targeted and they were able to control their rabbits to a degree.
We need to focus on all introduced pests, and all at the same time in a co-ordinated way, to make an impact on the appalling state of our indigenous bio-diversity. This is a big ask as some introduced species, cats in particular, are hard, and get harder the further you get from human habitation.
Close to humans cats are relatively easy to catch, but your net gain may be little to negative unless you've got rodents under control as well. Get out a bit where they have no interaction with humans and it's another story, long range shooting is about the most time effective but you only get one chance, it's very demanding shooting.
Also as a cat lover – I suspect your suggestion of keeping all cats inside at night – will be a bridge too far. And, really has little, if anything, to do with the feral cat problem described in the article.
Better to concentrate on eliminating feral cats (at the same time you're eliminating other introduced predators). The 'how' of that question has yet to be decided.
I absolutely agree (and so do all of the inundated cat rehome charities) about mandatory de-sexing of kittens (unless a registered breeder is going to keep them for breeding). And think that all cats should have microchips – initially registered to the breeder, then to the new owner (i.e. no 'blank unlinked microchips).
I also think that 'owners' should be licensed as well – so people with a repeated pattern of 'poor' behaviour around animals (dumping cats, for example) aren't allowed to own again for a period (say 10 years).
However, we've had 'mandatory' registrations for dogs for quite some years – and there are still many, many unregistered (and some frankly dangerous) dogs (cf the recent case up North). So registration isn't exactly an automatically successful strategy. And needs effective enforcement (completely lacking in many areas of Auckland, for example), in order to be even marginally successful.
There is reassurance from the article (in bold so that it cannot be missed:
Women are not being erased.), so that's good. To ensure that the massaging of messaging is complete, the article also includes terms such as 'gender essentialism' and helpful education about the inherent wrongnness of Terfs, even while misrepresenting concerns.
Of course, no article which disregards the impact on women's ability to use clear language to describe themselves or be described, can be complete without a 'feel-good story', so we have the now familiar faces of a couple where the biological female with a transman gender identity want to get pregnant, and so wish to have language that ignores the reality based biological sex component that allows that, and have their declared gender identity acknowledged in medical literature.
The feel good story is always about a woman with a claimed male identity who is obviously not suffering from any dysphoria in relation to her sexed body in that she wishes to get pregnant and have a child.
The reality is that this is being done at the behest of men who claim a female identity and wish to possess everything relating to womanhood. They can certainly perform "femininity", but they are totally unable (outside of the usual fetishised behaviour) to perform women's reproductive functions – menstruation, pregnancy, lactation etc. Therefore, these things must be uncoupled from any definition of woman or female.
The erasure of women when it comes to reproduction is entirely at the behest of autogynephiliac men and the followers of the gender ideology of which they are the "high priests".
The linked study above provides a good starting point for considering the impacts the article does not even mention.
From the Introduction:
On 24 September 2021, The Lancet medical journal highlighted an article on its cover with a single sentence in large text; “Historically, the anatomy and physiology of bodies with vaginas have been neglected.” This statement, in which the word “women” was replaced with the phrase “bodies with vaginas,” is part of a trend to remove sexed terms such as “women” and “mothers” from discussions of female reproduction. The good and important intention behind these changes is sensitivity to, and acknowledgment of, the needs of people who are biologically female and yet do not consider themselves to be women because of their gender identity (1). However, these changes are often not deliberated regarding their impact on accuracy or potential for other unintended consequences. In this paper we present some background to this issue, describe various observed impacts, consider a number of potentially deleterious consequences, and suggest a way forward.
In gender ideology, it is necessary to acknowledge women as a biological sex and material reality in order to identify yourself as a transgender person with a variant "gender identity" that is not women or female.
However, from that point on it is demanded that any reference to women, female or girl ONLY pertains to the amorphous idea of "gender identity".
The sheer arrogance and illogical nature of this appropriation of language, particularly women, female and girls removes from women (whether identifying as transgender or not) the existing word to clearly name themselves in medical literature and messaging, research, political and legislative discussions and changes, society, education, etc.
Transgender people regardless of identity, know their biological sex.
They have to, in order to dissociate from it, in terms of identity.
Recognising this does not in any way exclude them from their declared identity, or cast doubt on that personal and individual gender expression.
The impacts on women in terms of confusing messaging is as follows:
1. The demand for women to only refer to biological sex when it suits – and it only suits when describing the initial transgender incongruence – is the emotive demand of fundamentally self-absorbed people – and their allies.
"Going into that [traditional] space to see their midwife particularly if their body is changing and it's making them feel big feelings about their gender or identity anyway then going into a space that is very cis and het will be triggering for them.
"I don't think you have to be a queer midwife to provide queer inclusive pregnancy care, but you have to have done a lot of work and be a really good ally."
The word salad above is from the article, and is a quote from a medical professional. There are a lot of superfluous and propoganda terms in there that are redirecting the conversation away from objective critiques.
2. Women have only been recognised as being ill-served by the medical profession in the last few years, with treatment protocols being offered that have only been developed on male bodies, often resulting in worse outcomes for females. This inability to name women with clarity within the medical profession will not assist rectifying this problem.
3. Women adversely affected by non-use of the clear language of women, girls, females:
a) ALL – including those who identify as some other gender identity. Creating a amorphous and non-standard group of inclusive terms is harmful to ALL women in both the short and long term;
b) Women receiving medical messaging and advice in a language which is not the one in which they are fluent. Many will recognise the word women in a different language, but will not be so familiar with the completely disturbing body function terms such as: menstruator, ovulator, incubator, gestator;
c) Women who have learning impairments or communication difficulties will also be ill served by the replacement of the clear words of woman, women, female and girls;
d) Transgender identified women who are dealing with reproductive issues, or having to get treatment for women's medical issues, are not being told they have to abandon their gender identities, they are (like every other patient – man or woman) dealing with the material realities of their sexed bodies. Everyone has "big feelings" about health and wellbeing. Cancer patients don't deal with their diagnosis, by renaming it as something benign. They have already accepted that biological sex is different from gender identity, – where does this insistence that in cases where the discussion is only about biological sex come from?
There's a whole other conversation about many women throughout the generations being unable to name or identify the bodily processes and organs that a lot of "inclusive" language uses: vagina, vulva, ovaries, womb, uterus etc. They know how to deal with the effects or consequences of being a woman, or female, but not the detail of the medical terms that isolate those body parts and processes.
Apart from these issues. The fundamental takeaway is that anyone, of any sex, or gender identity that said that calling men women did not have any impact on women, females and girls – lied.
Yes the poster says it all "terfs can suck my big trans cock"
Wake up people. The trans movement is not progressive in any way, shape form
Why oh why the left have gone dow n this rabbit hole, I will never know.. This movement isn’t about transgender people at all. They are a very, very tiny minority. About one in thirty thousand before queer ideology came along. And generally trans people were accepted in NZ. Georgina Beyer was both Mayor and an MP. Carmen was able to run a nightclub and was seen as a local icon (even though she pimped women), Bob Moodie the commissioner of police rocked it in a kaftan and nobody stopped him.
The "Left" has slowly but surely been captured by Woke dogmatists among the professional middle class … a little cult of arrogant, authoritarian & utterly deluded followers in culturally & socially powerful positions. Their understanding of reality is both crudely reductive and deeply distorted.
In many respects, the antithesis of traditional Social Democracy.
Their Critical Theory perversion of the traditional Left pursuit of social justice – and their Rogernome-like imposition of radical change by stealth – is absolutely guaranteed to produce major new forms of social in-justice.
And I see my parents (and others around NZ in a similar nightmare situation) as among their earliest victims. Many many more to come.
Agree with your analysis Swordfish. We have to keep the anti social tennants in their state house as we have to provide them with wrap around services and too bloody bad about the neighbours, because we are right.
The new NZ Health, already showing itself for what it is (scroll below to see new software with more pro nouns than you can shake a stick at). What is that going to be like for the mentally ill, the elderly, people will early stage dementia, people with cancer and so on and so forth to be confronted with this nonsense).
But never mind good to know the staff will be entertained by adult entertainers in drag. Go to their insta gram account to see how they present, Maria Richman and King Chole Tamekehu.
In many respects, the antithesis of traditional Social Democracy.
And like Douglas the betrayal will echo across NZ politics for generations. Only deeper. All things considered I admire your courage in your continued speaking out swordfish – I had to let it go.
Cheers, Red … I've noted your recent absence here … I'm guessing partly a consequence of your recently-diagnosed serious health issue and partly that you've simply had enough. You're one of the sane ones here, calmly grounded in reality, always prepared to do the right thing … unsurprising given your wealth of real-life experience & major problem-solving skills in heavy industry over several decades. Starkly contrasting with clueless keyboard warriors and their propensity towards moral panics, purity spirals & full-on scapegoating.
Me … let's face it: I'm a deadman walking … back on chemo again … little to lose, although I'd like to think I'd do the right thing regardless … constantly fuelled by anger at what my Parents are being forced to go through … along with the rank hypocrisy of our new dullard Woke Overlords … but then “hypocrisy” is such a weak word … doesn't even remotely capture the sheer cowardice, covert sadism & ruthless self-interest being pursued under all that desperate, fevered moral posturing.
Epic rant, but am struggling to work out what defines you. Is it your prognosis, is it what has happened to your parents, or is it because you are naturally right wing and always have been? Because, from the outside, it appears the thing that drives you most is the angry brown person living next door to mum and dad. You used to provide very useful stats and polling analysis but this unnamed vector is now centre to what you talk about here in a way which is not healthy at all. Please find out a way to not use this person to attack all things progressive on this platform and get back to your core skills.
I am not meaning to answer on Swordfishs behalf but Muttonbird, really? Really? Swordfish is dealing with what is a very serious situation in terms of his health and you ask him to find a way not to attack all things progressive on this platform (and invite him to get back to his core skills).
Wtf……….
You not the first on this site to show a complete lack of empathy towards Swordfish.
And let me say this. I have been commenting on this blog since 2013. All comments were "left wing" supportive of Labour, yada, yada.
And then Labour revealed themselves to be captured by what I considered was a crazy unscientific ideology. And I think SF may have had the same experience. When the managerial classes (in his case the Housing Ministry) thought they knew best and showed a complete lack of empathy for his elderly parents who it sounds like had been party stalwarts all their lives.
And I have to say, I have become profoundly disillusioned with the left and Labour. I suspect it has been the same for Swordfish. And I always appreciate it when he comments. Because he speaks for a lot of us when he talks about the ideological disaster Labour is. Things have got much, much worse under their watch.
I welcome Swordfish commnets. They are very real and I agree with them.
Imho, anti-wokeism is an inevitable consequence of the sustainedgross inequality that is fraying Kiwi society. 'We' would have the resources to improve societal resilience were it not for the 'hesitancy' of the 'top' 10% to share more of their wealth with the 'bottom' 50% – "So it goes."
With the left asleep at the wheel, the right has surged ahead with its cynical anti-woke narrative [18 May 2022]
We found that the divisive story about the wokemob had mainly been constructed by a small handful of people, consisting of certain politicians, parts of the media and very privileged public figures. It is mainly coming from the hard right of the political spectrum and key figures in the government and media, but elements of the centre and the left have started experimenting with it as well. Many adherents of the anti-woke story genuinely believe it, but it also provides them with a useful distraction technique. In the face of pressing issues such as the cost of living scandal or government corruption, the anti-woke story is usually dispensed to convince people that the biggest threat facing the UK is the nebulous wokemob and not, say, energy companies making vast profits at people’s expense, or the government’s disastrous handling of the pandemic. Four days before the charity Action for Children announced that children were getting chilblains because their parents couldn’t afford to heat their homes, the Telegraph published an article arguing that “woke is not just an insult – it’s a threat to our freedom”.
Yes because men not having access to female changing rooms, female wards in hospitals, female prison cells, female showers, female toilets and female 'designation' as in women – meaning 'female, adult human' is '
'gross sustained inequality'
cause dignity and safety is something that men need and seemingly don’t have and that women need to provide men with no question asked, and if they ask question then they should suck on some huge transcock.
And that is why the left is losing one non male / non trans voter after the other.
Although the right have certainly capitalized on antiwoke sentiment, it should not be imagined that it is a unitary phenomenon, or particularly in tune with their natural supporters.
There are ample and increasing social ills coalescing around the loss of social engagement – Putnam's bowling alone. The 'melting pot' created by unrestricted migration benefits no-one but the exploiter employers.
In the context of the decline in home ownership, outrageous power price increases, increased cost of living and sustained long term earnings decline versus inflation, woke nonsense is cruel and provocative mockery.
To date we have only false and amateur demagogues so transparently looking for a quick buck they can only attract the lunatic fringe – but let a real left demagogue arise and the comfortable assumptions of Blairite sinecure holders will be shaken.
That makes a lot of sense – for myself, as long as those who proclaim anti-woke views also acknowledge systemic inequality, and see clearly who benefits, it's all good – "Membership has its privileges."
I think the article about GOP is just trying to smear and associate some of us who object to cancel culture by associating us with GOP and the right wing.
I am against cancel culture because it is anti free speech.
If they left were being cancelled the way some of us are who don't suppport the new woke orthodoxy, all hell would break loose.
I think the article about GOP is just trying to smear and associate some of us who object to cancel culture by associating us with GOP and the right wing.
You could be right – maybe that's what the author had in mind.
If they left were being cancelled the way some of us are who don't suppport the new woke orthodoxy, all hell would break loose.
Or indeed if 'they right' were being cancelled – wouldn’t it be wonderful if those in charge (of whatever political flavour) could work not just to ameliorate the more severe consequences of gross inequality, but actually tackle inequality itself. But it’s just a dream.
Swordfish. Our household was under attack from an abusive neighbour for eight months, during the first lockdown. Not only abusive to us, but also his teenage partner. Police were regular visitors, but of no practical help. In fact, their suggestions, when followed at the cost of additional stress were ignored when the results were offered to them. During this time, life goes on, and you have to deal with the otherstresses of life without having the respite of the safe haven of home. Later discovered that the constant breaking of Lockdown Rules was sufficient to warrant immediate eviction. I have empathy for your parents and any others living in such a hellish situation. The failure to address this situation, is one of many failures from successive governments. Labour does not represent to me, a government with understanding past their own political bubble and social circles.
Also, wanted to wish you well for your treatment and health.
without having the respite of the safe haven of home
Exactly … forced into constant severe stress, sleep deprivation & major personal safety concerns in their own home & neighbourhood (where they may have lived in peace for decades) … regardless of whether the victims are very elderly like my parents or not, it rapidly destroys people's lives & health … while the Woke ostentatiously proclaim their solidarity with the perpetrators (or at minimum act as apologists), apparently under the delusion that this signals their "unusually-refined moral sensibilities".
“See how “progressive” I am … see how I champion those at the very bottom of the Underclass … am I not special everyone ???”
Like the violent anti-social perpetrators, the ID Pols bourgeoisie are simply users & abusers of other people for their own self-interest. All that public faux-moral posturing acts as a perpetual alibi & shield, allowing them to maintain power & control.
Also, wanted to wish you well for your treatment and health.
Been going through similar health treatments over the last couple of years, so I have some understanding of that journey.
Apparently, it hasn't stopped my opinions as much as some would like.
PS. Don't hesitate in get in touch via the backend if you want to discuss options for pain relief. Close friend dx with leukaemia so between us we have a few tried and true remedies.
Even though, this is a bit off-topic in terms of the necessity of clear language for women's health, it strikes me that for once this statement is pretty-much accurate for a change.
As a demonstration of the declaration this week by another commenter, of the allyship provided to women by gender ideology activists it is also fairly typical.
It also shows the familiar demand for women to provide sexual services, when they have the temerity to open their mouths for other uses – like expressing opinions.
So, in terms of analysis:
1. Accurate statement for once. Good example of women's rights allyship. Familiar demand for sexual act.
2. Response:
TERF's 'can' but probably don't want to. Especially those that are lesbians. And those with some level of sexual partner standards, and healthy feelings of self worth, and those men labelled with TERF who are heterosexual, or homosexual – with again, some level of standards when it comes to sexual partners.
It's a pity one of the few factual unequivocal statements they have come up with is one with not a lot of appeal to the stated target audience.
(Well, of course there might be other reasons for why this appeal for sexual intimacy is expressed in such a way. I'm sure others will be able to help out on possible intentions.)
I see it as a rape statement. It's not an invitation for sex.
Also, imagine getting female specific health care like a cervical smear from a man who identifies as a woman who is AGP. For that reason I don't see it as too off topic. Women are being made invisible, along with our needs and rights. Violence aimed at GCFs online is part of the push to get women to shut the fuck up.
"I see it as a rape statement. It's not an invitation for sex."
TBH, I do as well. Thanks for pointing it out.
I have moderated my personal perspective, so that those unfamiliar with the persistence and celebrated repetitive occurrence of this phrase, can attempt to justify it by basic language analysis.
When people are unable to understand that woman is an adult human female, I think there will be an unnecessary and completely pointless diversion into what the term 'rape culture' means.
I am offering them an opportunity to defend this use at the most basic level of communication. Let’s see if anyone steps up.
“Also, imagine getting female specific health care like a cervical smear from a man who identifies as a woman who is AGP. For that reason I don’t see it as too off topic. Women are being made invisible, along with our needs and rights. Violence aimed at GCFs online is part of the push to get women to shut the fuck up.”
I do agree with this. These are the legitimate concerns regarding the negative impacts of gender ideology demands on women’s healthcare, that are obvious to many women who have taken time to consider this issue.
From previous conversations on here, I am inclined to assume that many have not taken that time, so I leave space for that to occur.
Your comments are a reliable starting point, as always.
it is the age old rape threat given to women that don't behave, and it includes the excuse of : You made me do it. If you would have shut up, be obedient adn do as a tell you to do I would not have to force you to suck my huge transcock.
And it came courtesy of Die Linke, which is a left political party in the German Government.
It is literally the left telling women and some men to be good girls/boys lest they get sexually abused, which of course is the fault of the victim not doing as government says they should do. It is a government sanctioned rape threat.
for those reading wondering what the hell is going on, or those who still think that gender identity politics isn't rife with misogyny, here's a post about suck my trans dick people protesting a feminist conference.
The speaker is a person in parliament as a Queer Advocate and the tent was provided for by DIE Linke a left party in government. 🙂
Yes, Frauenhass is jetzt wieder modern and bei allen beliebt.
Now fall in line and obey or else suck this huge transcock ………………..
How long until we get that same rethoric in public here? And lets also always keep in mind, that there is currently not ONE political party that would dare to defend the rights of the domestic mental health support animals that are threatened with the forced sucking of said huge cocks of the transwoman.
The question that the human support providing animals formerly known as women/girls (as in born non penis havers) needs to ask itself why and whom they can vote for in order to protect even a shred of their rights?
I think it's less likely to happen in NZ because NZ is more conservative sexually.
We also don't see the same kind of sexualised violence abuse in NZ twitter when the terf/TRA fights happen. In some ways this makes it harder to push back the ideology, because it's so 'reasonable' here.
I'm curious now though if any of the Pride marches in NZ have had this kind of bullshit to any degree at all.
If only Die Linke had had the good sense to listen to Wagenknecht's trenchant critique of its swing towards the cultural extremism of Woke bourgeois niche politics & its associated abandonment of working & lower-middle voters and what might be called progressive populism.
The deliberate dismissal of this messaging not being typical, even when it is from a parliamentary advocate member of the Green Party, and from a tent sponsored by another left-wing party speaks volumes.
Thanks Molloy. The trans man who wants to get pregnant is in fact a biological woman (they are lucky not to have had gender affirming health care that may have robbed them of their fertility). So this very small minority of people are so special we have to change our language and no longer be called women, so therefore no longer be able to identity as a sex class.
I also have it on good authority that Health NZ are having a drag kareoke event at their premises for staff. Are any other advocacy groups going to be invited to provide entertainment for Health NZ staff? Why drag Queens? Aren't they usually adult entertainment? Anyone remember the disasterous vodafone xmas party with Thai strippers a decade or two ago?
While we still have an outstanding pay agreement with nurses, mid wives taking the govt to court, acute staff shortages across health, a dementia unit closing the Hutt Valley due to lack of staff, Health NZ manages to find the time to put on entertainment for themselves (and adult entertainment to boot)/
Welcome to the age of the management class, those who know best.
Auckland Council has "Drag Queen Story Time " in local libraries as a children's event. Drag relies on sexualised parodies of women by men ("womanface" anybody?) and is definitely not children's entertainment. It is all about forcing gender ideology into every facet of society.
Those libraries, which did host the events, have faced quite a bit of backlash from their communities. Not an issue having women or men (if one is allowed to use those gendered nouns) dressed up as fairies, elves or unicorns for story time (which librarians have been doing for decades) – bring it on – the toddlers will be dancing in the aisles. But no responsible parent wants their preschoolers exposed to hyper-sexualized adult entertainment.
The Art Gallery does seem to be the location for the Rainbow Story Time event. Partly funded by 'targeted rates'.
"Proudly supported by Auckland Council and the city centre targeted rate."
It would have been entirely reasonable for Auckland Council to record and post the sessions online, so both advocates and those with concerns could have an informed discussion.
As for myself, Drag Queens are character (or caricature) performers based on sexist stereotypes of women, primarily for the entertainment of adults. Due to this, the stereotypes are often over-sexualised parodies of women. Most Drag Queen performances are ad-libbed when it comes to vocals, or embrace the inferior vocal prowess of performers to emphasise the parody. Choreography is not about skill or dancer control, it is – once again – usually limited to strutting, prancing and sexual moves.
I believe there is a real connection between people who are unable to fully accept any deviation from heterosexual norms in terms of expression, and those who are now unable to distinguish the difference between a performance based character, and sexuality and gender expression.
It would have been entirely reasonable for Auckland Council to record and post the sessions online, so both advocates and those with concerns could have an informed discussion.
They may well not have had the rights to do so, from the music perspective. Having had a bit to do with licensing performances through APRA – there is a big difference, both in cost and ability to license, music which is intended for live performance only, and where that performance is recorded.
Music composers and rights holders can (and do) refuse permission for their work to be recorded (they are sometimes willing to make exemptions for kids performances – where the recording is only available to the individual families) – but very frequently decline commercial shows (like this one) – or charge very substantially higher fees.
Edit. Realized that I’m assuming that music was a component of this – which it was in the original shows. This one may have only been story-book narration. Who knows?
"This one may have only been story-book narration. Who knows?"
Unfortunately, for the accuracy of this particular series of events very few.
Also unlikely that those promoting, booking or attending this event in the past would provide an objective critical view either.
My personal critique of Drag Queens used in such a way, is predicated on the points I made above, not this particular occurrence involving Coco Flash and Erika.
West Auckland libraries a couple of weeks ago. We walked past the advertisement at the Pt Chevalier library – complete with the invaded Rainbow flag of Gender Ideology. Definitely Auckland Council libraries.
Well, they're certainly not promoting it online.
Just checked the Pt Chev facebook page. And only found their standard 'Wriggle and rhyme' preschool event. There is a LGBTQ+ craft group/event listed – but that's it. https://www.facebook.com/pointchevalierlibrary
Well, I have no reason to doubt your statement regarding the promotion of gender ideology at Pt Chevalier library.
A quick look at their Facebook page for the branch shows that they have spectrumed/rainbow-ised/declarised the Auckland Council logo to show their stance.
This is just performative guff though, and a redirect to a totally different discussion.
I'd really like those supporting Drag Queens events for children to clearly state what they consider the benefits to be. For children.
Smashing the binary stuff would be my guess. Which I don't have a problem with so long as people can also then talk about times when the binary matters.
And I'd like to see the DQ community and allies stand up and address the issues of hypersexualisation and parodies of women. If DQST isn't sexualised and isn't doing parody performance, is there a problem?
Parents and their tamariki enjoyed the Drag Queens Rainbow storytime session hosted at HB Williams Memorial Library. Rainbow Story time is an event for tamariki and their whānau. Its aim is to promote visibility, acceptance, self-confidence and inclusivity among communities.
I consider this to the equivalent of asking if you remove the shell, the yolk and the albumen – can you still call it an egg?
not hard to see how DQST can be done sexualised or not sexualised (we've seen both right?). Less clear is the parody.
As such, it has nothing at all to do with sexual orientation, or gender identity. It also has nothing to do with personal diversity in self-expression in day-to-day life, because it is performance based.
In terms of showing high levels of skill in performance arts, such as singing and dancing it is also fairly unconvincing. The Drag Queen performers don't usually display high levels of skill in this respect, the entertainment value is not based on this criteria.
If the performers – as gay or transgender performers without the added component of drag queen character – were employed to promote diversity – then that makes more sense in terms of diversity.
But we need to remember the first intention of libraries and children.
To inculcate within children an enduring interest in reading, literature and the written word.
If this intention is achieved children will be introduced to diversity, different perspectives and challenges to their own biases by what they read.
The drag queen storytime thing is a storm in a teacup. My wife took my five year old daughter to one of these events at our library. The content was entirely age appropriate around being yourself – no gender indoctrination going on. It does children no harm to meet different types of people in a respectful and positive environment.
The efforts to delete women from the English vocabulary and dehumanisation into "bodies with vaginas" to appease a tiny minority is a much bigger problem than a performer reading children's books. Let's fight the battles that matter.
What is the benefit to children in regards to the written word?
Drag is not:
A sexual orientation;
A gender identity;
An expression of living your life authentically (it is an assumed persona);
Not highly skilled in terms of song, dance or performance (the entertainment value is related to the parody of women, both in presentation and voice, and pratfall physical humour).
The warm glowing feeling experienced by adults who organise, book and attend such events is immaterial.
The question is primarily: What is the benefit to children in regards to the written word?
It will show girls that women are garish, overly sexualised men.
It will show boys that "women" are garish overly sexualised men.
It will show both, that men can be what they want, women and girls needn't apply.
Maybe we can have a Cop reads a book day, Firefighter reads a book day, Nurse reads a book day, homeless person reads a book day – and be these readers men and women to show to the kids that anyone can be a cop, teacher/nurse or even homeless?
Oh that would not be 'smashing the binary' enough?
Mind another thought, it is to groom these kids into accepting Drag, Prostituion, etc as future jobs for them.
Well, that doesn't seem to align with the stated aim (video above) 'to promote visibility, acceptability, self-confidence and inclusivity'.
But perhaps it does, in some way. Given that there is no details about the why and how.
After watching the video, I have a suspicion that one of the drag artists is one of the emerging cohort of women who are performing drag, in order to express their inner colourfulness.
I don't think I want to even analyse that new development here. Many are having difficulty with the basics.
If you want to 'queer' i.e. put under the trans umbrella everyone than overly sexualised performances by adult entertainer for children makes perfectly good sense. The younger you start the more accepting they will be simply by emulating what adults do. I.e. monkey see monkey do. If the parents have no objections to such children targeted adult entertainment then of course that re-inforces to the child that this is Ok. After all, we are all gender and gender identification/expression. Thus grown adult man larping womanhood to children is considered 'educational'. Draq Queening is considered a normal job, as is stripping, burlesque entertainment, sex work is work etc etc etc.
In the same sense as we are in the process of finishing the process of removing the word woman – adult human female i.e. carrier of large gametes for the last billion of years or so – from any reproductive function. At that stage, incubator/surrogate/birthing body providing, lactating, egg harvesting all become chargeable services and jobs for said carriers of the large gametes. Together with sex work is work, being finally able to incubate and provide human livestock , human livestock suitable food, and unfertilized eggs for human lifestock to other humans in exchange for a handfull of dollars and / or a bowl of rice the carriers of the large gamete will finally have beat patriarchy and was truly liberated from the shackles of made up societal gender stereotypes.
The physical body will be separated from the mind, the two shall never meet in the middle and both can be modified at will by surgery and drugs. Woot Woot.
Watching the video, it is apparent it is the adults that are responsive to the performance – such as it is.
I query the benefit of giving such young children mixed messages regarding their own developing sense of self and others. Some of the younger attendees look to be the age of those who think things twink out of existence if they are not visible.
Children also go through a development stage of assigning sex by stereotypical signs such as clothes, hair length etc, and then develop a greater understanding that these things are not representative of the material reality of sex.
This understanding of child development seems to be missing here. How do you explain that the man pretending to be a woman, but wearing clothes associated with womenhood, and exaggerated makeup and performance is actually a man, but needs to be referred to as she, and a woman?
You don't explain that, you don't expect that to be explained, in fact you might even find that providing 'explaining' to confused kids becomes 'conversion therapy'.
Boys are girls, girls are boys and everyone can be anything any time in-between, surgery, drugs, pronouns and enforced affirmation will do so.
The confusion is wanted. In order to implement the new you need to destroy the old. So whatever the little children feel of themselves needs to be cancelled and confused – queered. And then you bring forth your new ideas of 'self id' and explain the genderbread person to the kids and where they may fit on the scale of 1 – 10 of either male or female and tell them that that confusion that was put in their little heads is natural and that there are a 8 billion genders and they have to just choose what they want to be.
And you re-enforce that 'choice' of what one is per self id in school, university and borgplaces of employment. And anyone who dares be different to that promoted ideology gets cancelled and ostracized by polite society.
Appropriate safeguarding and understanding of childhood development, seems to be completely missing in practice here.
The very real vulnerability of children to influence and exploitation is completely waved away by abstract ill defined 'inclusivity' and 'diversity' excuses, as if they were magic words.
( I do like that artist… already following.
Apparently, they lost quite a few followers for a while, but I think they have regained numbers for some reason or another. )
Appropriate safeguarding and understanding of childhood development, seems to be completely missing in practice here.
The definition of 'appropriate' has changed. This is now considered by government, academia, education, etc 'appropriate'. Appropriate enough to spend rate payers and tax payers funds on.
Voltaire — 'If you wish to converse with me, define your terms.'
Yeah, why not. I mean if the others get to abuse the physical reality of the otherothers then why should the otherothers not try to bank on it while they can? A person got to make a living, right?
Funny how this "inclusive language" never involves phrases like "people with prostates", "semen ejaculators" etc. It's always the female humans being erased by this gibberish, with a cheery handwave of "Women are not being erased." They think we're idiots – or they are. Neither is good.
I am inclined to think that it is primarily men and women who have a very restricted idea about male expression, and who are active proponents of this ideology, that explains this phenomenon.
"The other suspicion I have about men who so emphatic about other men being accepted as women, is this:
For all their talk about acceptance, inclusion and kindness, and let's admit it – complete ignorance about being female, a girl or a woman – their insistence that transvestites, autogynophiles, men who just declare themselves as women MUST BE accepted in all ways as women, is because they are both unable and unwilling to accommodate such men alongside themselves as 'men'.
That is why, they choose to abuse women who say they accept that diversity of trans people, but not the lie of biological sex change. They are unable to accept transwomen as men, because their idea of men is limited, so any variation must belong in the non-men category. "
The follow-on corollary to this, is that such fundamental adherence to a very limited and masculine idea of men, makes any admittance of transmen into that category a moot point. They also don't meet that limited criteria for men. They remain non-men.
In other words, they know transmen are women, so they don't have to make changes or accommodate them as men in language, healthcare or any other way. Even given that the negative impacts for men in this respect are nowhere near as significant as what is occurring for women, this view protects men from the slightest discomfort or boundary testing.
this but it's complex, because TM need healthcare for women too. Also, there are two dynamics at play in how women's language is affected: the desire to accommodate TM/NBF, and the pressure to accommodate TW/AGPs. That double dynamic doesn't happen with men's language.
I see the shift in language for women as being largely sexist and misogynistically driven. Because if it weren't, the various health systems would be applying the philosophical change evenly, it would just be a matter of course: how can we make language more inclusive for trans/NB people? We can neutralise all language. Which they're not doing.
I'd guess there is also a dynamic around women being more willing to give things up and care take, whereas men aren't going to do that unless they're made to. The degree to which midwifery has removed women's language is alarming.
All women need clear language, protocols, guidance and messaging for healthcare. Regardless of gender identity.
Alongside women with specific health needs, eg. endometriosis, gynaecological issues etc, women using medical or surgical transition interventions require specific attention to impacts resulting from cosmetic surgery and endocrine disruptions. This remains true for anyone who has had interventions whether they are currently trans-identified or detransitioners. There is a lack of information in this regard for all transgender people that needs to be filled, by quality information and healthcare.
The reality is, that women do have a body that evolutionary processes have designed for reproduction, and so there are many times in life when that results in greater levels and occurences of hormonal variance and impact on health from those variances, that occur for men.
There is also, as you say, a societal expectation connected to the way this is being played out.
Misogyny and sexism at the bottom of it, alright. It's true that if they tried to claim men should be referred to as sperm deliverers or prostate havers, the backlash would be immediate and uncompromising. But they don't seem to have even thought of trying to make those claims – it's only directed at women.
I also have it on good authority that Health NZ are having a drag kareoke event at their premises for staff.
Good grief this fails (abysmally) the common test of 'what would this look like on the front page of the newspaper?'
Perhaps it just means a dress up /fancy dress party? Again fails the sniff test, remember Prince Harry and his appearance in a German officer's uniform. Actually it is pathetic really.
No probs with a party, hopefully run by the social club with minimal organisation $$$$, but anything other than that shows a level of ignorance about history and perception that we should not be expecting from such an organisation.
Perhaps a banner along the lines of that above could be used by people picketing the event…..though it would probably zoom straight over their heads.
This is such a minefield now that any fun, if there ever was any, has gone now.
You could argue the other way too that an event like this makes fun of others. In the olden days it used to be hulking rugby types that had most fun cross dressing. Every fancy dress party, ‘back in the day’ had these short skirted, shoe wobbling dopes with OTT makeup. They may still do this in a rugby clubrooms far far away…….
I remember years ago being in lectures where the topic was the impact of technology on mankind.
Apparently people were going to need to learn how to live with lots of leisure, with time on their hands. It has been interesting to observe how things have developed.
Where have we got to? We order groceries online so someone will do our shopping for us. We order food to be delivered to us. In 60 years there has been an exponential explosive growth in takeaway food businesses.
We get people in to mow our lawns or walk our dogs. And with all tne busyness gone we have time to devote to contemplating gender issues. Oh that Nana and grandma had had that time, and grandpa and pop.
Grandma and Grandpa and even our mums and dad's would think the gender stuff was crazy, I am sure.
They knew all too well who could and who couldn't have babies, who would carry the child, give birth, breast feed etc. They knew it was only women who could do this.
I would have no interest in discussing gender, but for the insidious way the ideology is imposing itself on women, girls and boys.
Now you know why No Debate is the central tenet of their movement. These are above all post-modernists, persons that accept no criticism or common standards, or terrorist obscurantists as they have been called.
The traditional term is probably better however – sophists. These folk claim wisdom, but refuse to demonstrate it. Philosophers make no such claim, only that they would prefer wisdom, if they were able to establish what it was.
The traditional term is probably better however – sophists. These folk claim wisdom, but refuse to demonstrate it
Isocrates expressed a disdain for the pseudo science of sophists,for both receiving payment to teach falsehoods,and the ability to suggest that "science" can predetermine happiness and success (as an ordered pathway)
If all who are engaged in the profession of education were willing to state the facts instead of making greater promises than they can possibly fulfill, they would not be in such bad repute with the lay-public. As it is, however, the teachers who do not scruple to vaunt their powers with utter disregard of the truth have created the impression that those who choose a life of careless indolence are better advised than those who devote themselves to serious study.
Indeed, who can fail to abhor, yes to contemn, those teachers, in the first place, who devote themselves to disputation, since they pretend to search for truth, but straightway at the beginning of their professions attempt to deceive us with lies?
For I think it is manifest to all that foreknowledge of future events is not vouchsafed to our human nature, but that we are so far removed from this prescience1 that Homer, who has been conceded the highest reputation for wisdom, has pictured even the gods as at times debating among themselves about the future—not that he knew their minds but that he desired to show us that for mankind this power lies in the realms of the impossible.
1 There is, according to Isocrates, no “science” which can teach us to do under all circumstances the things which will insure our happiness and success. Life is too complicated for that, and no man can foresee exactly the consequences of his acts—“the future is a thing unseen.” All that education can do is to develop a sound judgement (as opposed to knowledge) which will meet the contingencies of life with resourcefulness and, in most cases, with success. This is a fundamental doctrine of his “philosophy” which he emphasizes and echoes again and again in opposition to the professors of a “science of virtue and happiness.”
SM …….Definitely what I would class as sophistry. I had always thought sophistry was pejorative……like how many gender fluid angels can dance on a pin head etc.
Most irritating was the turning the question back on the questioner which can be an aid to developing thinking skills but done to excess, as this guy (the so-called Professor) did it, adds nothing.
It is a lily white version of the Socratic method where in a dialogue between the two the answer would be found.
I can see that people should be free to be and express themselves as they wish. The prime caveat is that it harms no-one else. The way this movement is shaping up it is laying to waste any advances against misogyny and harming women.
I haven't listened to all of this – (my transit time today – which is my usual listening time, has been cut short) – but the excerpts from the promo sound really good.
I know that Paula Bennet is anathema to many here – but it sounds like a really good interview with Michelle Dickinson (aka Nanogirl) who is someone I have a lot of time for.
The more we can make science an interesting and cool thing to be interested in, and potentially to build a career around, the better of NZ will be as a society.
What you’ve done there is link to her account not the tweet. This means what we see is her latest tweets not the one being referred to.
to link to a tweet (or blog post or FB post or any social media post), always click on the time/date stamp on the tweet/post you want and then copy the URL.
Engaging with rhe public health system currently in a couple of different aspects the only word that seems appropriate is 'disarray'….particularly the hospitals.
The inmates are truly running the asylum.
When trust is lost it is exceedingly difficult to regain.
We've had an ongoing interaction with the health system that's spanned the Covid period and haven't noticed that much of a change on the Health System side. Have noticed a bit of a change in patient attitude, which in some cases has gone south in a big way, and Health System adjustments to manage that. Found everything efficient and organised to manage with Covid and the fuckwits.
Where we have seen a change is that the old geographic boundaries around the South seem to be going and wider options are talked about.
Had significant interaction with the hospital system the couple of years prior to covid and the difference is like night and day….pre covid obviously constrained but functional, currently not so.
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With Minister Karen Chhour indicating in the House today that she either doesn’t know or care about the frontline cuts she’s making to Oranga Tamariki, we risk seeing more and more of our children falling through the cracks. ...
The Labour Party is saddened to learn of the death of Sir Robert Martin, a globally renowned disability advocate who led the way for disability rights both in New Zealand and internationally. ...
Labour is calling for the Government to urgently rethink its coalition commitment to restart live animal exports, Labour animal welfare spokesperson Rachel Boyack said. ...
Today’s Financial Stability Report has once again highlighted that poverty and deep inequality are political choices - and this Government is choosing to make them worse. ...
The Green Party is calling on the Government to do more for our households in most need as unemployment rises and the cost of living crisis endures. ...
Unemployment is on the rise and it’s only going to get worse under this Government, Labour finance spokesperson Barbara Edmonds said. Stats NZ figures show the unemployment rate grew to 4.3 percent in the March quarter from 4 percent in the December quarter. “This is the second rise in unemployment ...
The New Zealand Labour Party welcomes the entering into force of the European Union and New Zealand free trade agreement. This agreement opens the door for a huge increase in trade opportunities with a market of 450 million people who are high value discerning consumers of New Zealand goods and ...
The National-led Government continues its fiscal jiggery pokery with its Pharmac announcement today, Labour Health spokesperson Ayesha Verrall says. “The government has increased Pharmac funding but conceded it will only make minimal increases in access to medicine”, said Ayesha Verrall “This is far from the bold promises made to fund ...
This afternoon’s interim Waitangi Tribunal report must be taken seriously as it affects our most vulnerable children, Labour children’s spokesperson Willow-Jean Prime. ...
Te Pāti Māori are demanding the New Zealand Government support an international independent investigation into mass graves that have been uncovered at two hospitals on the Gaza strip, following weeks of assault by Israeli troops. Among the 392 bodies that have been recovered, are children and elderly civilians. Many of ...
Our two-tiered system for veterans’ support is out of step with our closest partners, and all parties in Parliament should work together to fix it, Labour veterans’ affairs spokesperson Greg O’Connor said. ...
Stripping two Ministers of their portfolios just six months into the job shows Christopher Luxon’s management style is lacking, Labour Leader Chris Hipkins said. ...
Tonight’s court decision to overturn the summons of the Children’s Minister has enabled the Crown to continue making decisions about Māori without evidence, says Te Pāti Māori spokesperson for Children, Mariameno Kapa-Kingi. “The judicial system has this evening told the nation that this government can do whatever they want when ...
It appears Nicola Willis is about to pull the rug out from under the feet of local communities still dealing with the aftermath of last year’s severe weather, and local councils relying on funding to build back from these disasters. ...
The Government is making short-sighted changes to the Resource Management Act (RMA) that will take away environmental protection in favour of short-term profits, Labour’s environment spokesperson Rachel Brooking said today. ...
Labour welcomes the release of the report into the North Island weather events and looks forward to working with the Government to ensure that New Zealand is as prepared as it can be for the next natural disaster. ...
The Labour Party has called for the New Zealand Government to recognise Palestine, as a material step towards progressing the two-State solution needed to achieve a lasting peace in the region. ...
Some of our country’s most important work, stopping the sexual exploitation of children and violent extremism could go along with staff on the frontline at ports and airports. ...
The Government’s Fast Track Approvals Bill will give projects such as new coal mines a ‘get out of jail free’ card to wreak havoc on the environment, Labour Leader Chris Hipkins said today. ...
The government's decision to reintroduce Three Strikes is a destructive and ineffective piece of law-making that will only exacerbate an inherently biased and racist criminal justice system, said Te Pāti Māori Justice Spokesperson, Tākuta Ferris, today. During the time Three Strikes was in place in Aotearoa, Māori and Pasifika received ...
Cuts to frontline hospital staff are not only a broken election promise, it shows the reckless tax cuts have well and truly hit the frontline of the health system, says Labour Health spokesperson Ayesha Verrall. ...
The Green Party has joined the call for public submissions on the fast-track legislation to be extended after the Ombudsman forced the Government to release the list of organisations invited to apply just hours before submissions close. ...
New Zealand’s good work at reducing climate emissions for three years in a row will be undone by the National government’s lack of ambition and scrapping programmes that were making a difference, Labour Party climate spokesperson Megan Woods said today. ...
More essential jobs could be on the chopping block, this time Ministry of Education staff on the school lunches team are set to find out whether they're in line to lose their jobs. ...
Te Pāti Māori is disgusted at the confirmation that hundreds are set to lose their jobs at Oranga Tamariki, and the disestablishment of the Treaty Response Unit. “This act of absolute carelessness and out of touch decision making is committing tamariki to state abuse.” Said Te Pāti Māori Oranga Tamariki ...
The Government is trying to bring in a law that will allow Ministers to cut corners and kill off native species, Labour environment spokesperson Rachel Brooking said. ...
Cancelling urgently needed new Cook Strait ferries and hiking the cost of public transport for many Kiwis so that National can announce the prospect of another tunnel for Wellington is not making good choices, Labour Transport Spokesperson Tangi Utikere said. ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters discussed the need for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza, and enhanced cooperation in the Pacific with German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock during her first official visit to New Zealand today. "New Zealand and Germany enjoy shared interests and values, including the rule of law, democracy, respect for the international system ...
The Minister Responsible for RMA Reform, Chris Bishop today released his decision on four recommendations referred to him by the Western Bay of Plenty District Council, opening the door to housing growth in the area. The Council’s Plan Change 92 allows more homes to be built in existing and new ...
Thank you, John McKinnon and the New Zealand China Council for the invitation to speak to you today. Thank you too, all members of the China Council. Your effort has played an essential role in helping to build, shape, and grow a balanced and resilient relationship between our two ...
The Government is modernising insurance law to better protect Kiwis and provide security in the event of a disaster, Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Andrew Bayly announced today. “These reforms are long overdue. New Zealand’s insurance law is complicated and dated, some of which is more than 100 years old. ...
The coalition Government is refreshing its approach to supporting pay equity claims as time-limited funding for the Pay Equity Taskforce comes to an end, Public Service Minister Nicola Willis says. “Three years ago, the then-government introduced changes to the Equal Pay Act to support pay equity bargaining. The changes were ...
Structured literacy will change the way New Zealand children learn to read - improving achievement and setting students up for success, Education Minister Erica Stanford says. “Being able to read and write is a fundamental life skill that too many young people are missing out on. Recent data shows that ...
Trade Minister Todd McClay says Canada’s refusal to comply in full with a CPTPP trade dispute ruling in our favour over dairy trade is cynical and New Zealand has no intention of backing down. Mr McClay said he has asked for urgent legal advice in respect of our ‘next move’ ...
The rights of our children and young people will be enhanced by changes the coalition Government will make to strengthen oversight of the Oranga Tamariki system, including restoring a single Children’s Commissioner. “The Government is committed to delivering better public services that care for our most at-risk young people and ...
The Government is making it easier for minor changes to be made to a building consent so building a home is easier and more affordable, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “The coalition Government is focused on making it easier and cheaper to build homes so we can ...
New Zealand lost a true legend when internationally renowned disability advocate Sir Robert Martin (KNZM) passed away at his home in Whanganui last night, Disabilities Issues Minister Louise Upston says. “Our Government’s thoughts are with his wife Lynda, family and community, those he has worked with, the disability community in ...
Good evening – Before discussing the challenges and opportunities facing New Zealand’s foreign policy, we’d like to first acknowledge the New Zealand Institute of International Affairs. You have contributed to debates about New Zealand foreign policy over a long period of time, and we thank you for hosting us. ...
From today, passengers travelling internationally from Auckland Airport will be able to keep laptops and liquids in their carry-on bags for security screening thanks to new technology, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “Creating a more efficient and seamless travel experience is important for holidaymakers and businesses, enabling faster movement through ...
People with an interest in the health of Northland’s marine ecosystems are invited to a public meeting to discuss how to deal with kina barrens, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones will lead the discussion, which will take place on Friday, 10 May, at Awanui Hotel in ...
Kiwi exporters are $100 million better off today with the NZ EU FTA entering into force says Trade Minister Todd McClay. “This is all part of our plan to grow the economy. New Zealand's prosperity depends on international trade, making up 60 per cent of the country’s total economic activity. ...
There are heartening signs that the extractive sector is once again becoming an attractive prospect for investors and a source of economic prosperity for New Zealand, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. “The beginnings of a resurgence in extractive industries are apparent in media reports of the sector in the past ...
The return of the historic Ō-Rākau battle site to the descendants of those who fought there moved one step closer today with the first reading of Te Pire mō Ō-Rākau, Te Pae o Maumahara / The Ō-Rākau Remembrance Bill. The Bill will entrust the 9.7-hectare battle site, five kilometres west ...
Energy Minister Simeon Brown has announced 25 new high-speed EV charging hubs along key routes between major urban centres and outlined the Government’s plan to supercharge New Zealand’s EV infrastructure. The hubs will each have several chargers and be capable of charging at least four – and up to 10 ...
The coalition Government will not proceed with the previous Government’s plans to regulate residential property managers, Housing Minister Chris Bishop says. “I have written to the Chairperson of the Social Services and Community Committee to inform him that the Government does not intend to support the Residential Property Managers Bill ...
The Government has announced an independent review into the disability support system funded by the Ministry of Disabled People – Whaikaha. Disability Issues Minister Louise Upston says the review will look at what can be done to strengthen the long-term sustainability of Disability Support Services to provide disabled people and ...
Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith has attended the Universal Periodic Review in Geneva and outlined the Government’s plan to restore law and order. “Speaking to the United Nations Human Rights Council provided us with an opportunity to present New Zealand’s human rights progress, priorities, and challenges, while responding to issues and ...
The Government and Rotorua Lakes Council are committed to working closely together to end the use of contracted emergency housing motels in Rotorua. Associate Minister of Housing (Social Housing) Tama Potaka says the Government remains committed to ending the long-term use of contracted emergency housing motels in Rotorua by the ...
Trade Minister Todd McClay heads overseas today for high-level trade talks in the Gulf region, and a key OECD meeting in Paris. Mr McClay will travel to Riyadh to meet with counterparts from Saudi Arabia and the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC). “New Zealand’s goods and services exports to the Gulf region ...
Education Minister Erica Stanford has outlined six education priorities to deliver a world-leading education system that sets Kiwi kids up for future success. “I’m putting ambition, achievement and outcomes at the heart of our education system. I want every child to be inspired and engaged in their learning so they ...
The new NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) App is a secure ‘one stop shop’ to provide the services drivers need, Transport Minister Simeon Brown and Digitising Government Minister Judith Collins say. “The NZTA App will enable an easier way for Kiwis to pay for Vehicle Registration and Road User Charges (RUC). ...
Whānau with tamariki growing up in emergency housing motels will be prioritised for social housing starting this week, says Associate Housing Minister Tama Potaka. “Giving these whānau a better opportunity to build healthy stable lives for themselves and future generations is an essential part of the Government’s goal of reducing ...
Racing Minister Winston Peters has paid tribute to an icon of the industry with the recent passing of Dave O’Sullivan (OBE). “Our sympathies are with the O’Sullivan family with the sad news of Dave O’Sullivan’s recent passing,” Mr Peters says. “His contribution to racing, initially as a jockey and then ...
Assalaamu alaikum, greetings to you all. Eid Mubarak, everyone! I want to extend my warmest wishes to you and everyone celebrating this joyous occasion. It is a pleasure to be here. I have enjoyed Eid celebrations at Parliament before, but this is my first time joining you as the Minister ...
Associate Health Minister David Seymour has announced Pharmac’s largest ever budget of $6.294 billion over four years, fixing a $1.774 billion fiscal cliff. “Access to medicines is a crucial part of many Kiwis’ lives. We’ve committed to a budget allocation of $1.774 billion over four years so Kiwis are ...
Hon Paula Bennett has been appointed as member and chair of the Pharmac board, Associate Health Minister David Seymour announced today. "Pharmac is a critical part of New Zealand's health system and plays a significant role in ensuring that Kiwis have the best possible access to medicines,” says Mr Seymour. ...
Hundreds of New Zealand families affected by Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder (FASD) will benefit from a new Government focus on prevention and treatment, says Health Minister Dr Shane Reti. “We know FASD is a leading cause of preventable intellectual and neurodevelopmental disability in New Zealand,” Dr Reti says. “Every day, ...
Regional Development Minister Shane Jones today attended the official opening of Kaikohe’s new $14.7 million sports complex. “The completion of the Kaikohe Multi Sports Complex is a fantastic achievement for the Far North,” Mr Jones says. “This facility not only fulfils a long-held dream for local athletes, but also creates ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters’ engagements in Türkiye this week underlined the importance of diplomacy to meet growing global challenges. “Returning to the Gallipoli Peninsula to represent New Zealand at Anzac commemorations was a sombre reminder of the critical importance of diplomacy for de-escalating conflicts and easing tensions,” Mr Peters ...
Ambassador Millar, Burgemeester, Vandepitte, Excellencies, military representatives, distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen – good morning and welcome to this sacred Anzac Day dawn service. It is an honour to be here on behalf of the Government and people of New Zealand at Buttes New British Cemetery, Polygon Wood – a deeply ...
Distinguished guests - It is an honour to return once again to this site which, as the resting place for so many of our war-dead, has become a sacred place for generations of New Zealanders. Our presence here and at the other special spaces of Gallipoli is made ...
Mai ia tawhiti pamamao, te moana nui a Kiwa, kua tae whakaiti mai matou, ki to koutou papa whenua. No koutou te tapuwae, no matou te tapuwae, kua honoa pumautia. Ko nga toa kua hinga nei, o te Waipounamu, o te Ika a Maui, he okioki tahi me o ...
Paul Goldsmith will take on responsibility for the Media and Communications portfolio, while Louise Upston will pick up the Disability Issues portfolio, Prime Minister Christopher Luxon announced today. “Our Government is relentlessly focused on getting New Zealand back on track. As issues change in prominence, I plan to adjust Ministerial ...
Recreational catch limits will be reduced in areas of Fiordland and the Chatham Islands to help keep those fisheries healthy and sustainable, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones says. The lower recreational daily catch limits for a range of finfish and shellfish species caught in the Fiordland Marine Area and ...
Energy Minister Simeon Brown has welcomed an important milestone in New Zealand’s hydrogen future, with the opening of the country’s first network of hydrogen refuelling stations in Wiri. “I want to congratulate the team at Hiringa Energy and its partners K one W one (K1W1), Mitsui & Co New Zealand ...
The coalition Government is delivering on its commitment to improve resource management laws and give greater certainty to consent applicants, with a Bill to amend the Resource Management Act (RMA) expected to be introduced to Parliament next month. RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop has today outlined the first RMA Amendment ...
Overseas models for regulating the oil and gas sector, including their decommissioning regimes, are being carefully scrutinised as a potential template for New Zealand’s own sector, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. The Coalition Government is focused on rebuilding investor confidence in New Zealand’s energy sector as it looks to strengthen ...
Genterwocky After a hard days marching, Sir Doocey calls in at the Village Tavern For a pint of ale and a pork pie. The grim villagers stare at him. “Do not be travelling on the forest road,” warns a crusty old beak. “And why is that, antique peasant?” Grins Sir ...
Political conferences after a party returns to power are usually a chance for some healthy, even unhealthy backslapping. Yet National Party president Sylvia Wood’s address to its mainland representatives on Saturday hardly contained the unalloyed delight that one might have expected following National’s escape from the wilderness of opposition. Yes, ...
Comment: Almost half the world is voting in national elections this year and artificial intelligence is the elephant in the room. There are genuine fears AI-generated or AI-edited deepfakes will potentially manipulate election outcomes not just in the US and UK, but critically in countries such as India. For that ...
Ahead of the reality franchise’s return to New Zealand, allow us to introduce the eight brides and grooms. Chuck on a veil and tie back your man bun, because it’s time to say “I do” to a new season of Married at First Sight NZ. The reality TV “social experiment” ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Andrew Norton, Professor in the Practice of Higher Education Policy, Australian National University Every year on June 1, student debt in Australia is indexed to inflation. In 2023, high inflation pushed the indexation rate to 7.1%, the highest since 1990. This ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michelle Grattan, Professorial Fellow, University of Canberra Changes in the May 14 budget will cut the student debt of more than three million people, wiping more than $3 billion from what people owe. The government will cap the HELP indexation rate ...
Asia Pacific Report The prosecutor’s office at the International Criminal Court (ICC) has appealed for an end to what it calls intimidation of its staff, saying such threats could constitute an offence against the “administration of justice” by the world’s permanent war crimes court. The Hague-based office of ICC Prosecutor ...
By Patrick Decloitre, RNZ Pacific correspondent French Pacific desk A women’s union in New Caledonia has staged a sit-in protest this week to support senior Kanak indigenous journalist Thérèse Waia, who works for public broadcaster Nouvelle-Calédonie la Première, after a smear attack by critics. The peaceful demonstration was held on ...
New Zealand Food Safety is monitoring overseas recalls of Indian packaged spice products manufactured by MDH and Everest due to concerns over a cancer-causing pesticide. ...
By Stephen Wright and Stefan Armbruster of BenarNews Fiji’s ranking in a global press freedom index has jumped into the top tier of countries with free or mostly free media after its government last year repealed a draconian law that threatened journalists with prison for doing their jobs. Fiji’s improvement ...
We might be in Invercargill but all anyone can talk about is Gore. Specifically, Salford Street. That’s where three-year-old Lachlan Jones lived, south of the centre of town, between the A&P Showgrounds and the Mataura River. Roughly 1.2 km away from the single level home he lived in with his ...
MONDAY I lined up the latest round of civil servants from city hall against the wall, and signalled for the firing squad to drop their rifles. I stepped up onto a wooden crate to look at the office workers in the eye. But that didn’t feel right, so I found ...
Keen hiker and second-year MSc student Liam Hewson wears two hats when he’s in the great outdoors. “The scientist in me appreciates nature and goes, ‘Oh, there’s that thing and there’s another thing,’ but then the tramper and the outdoorsy person in me thinks, ‘Cool bush.’” Born and bred in ...
After a long and illustrious career as a goal kicker, Dan Carter’s favourite way to unwind is… kicking goals. Why can’t he get enough of it? And what it’s like to watch him do it for an hour straight? A semicircle of people wielding cameras and phones has formed in ...
Dame Susan Devoy takes us through her life in television, including late night ER debriefs, her proudest CTI moment and the show she watches in secret. Quite aside from her four world champion squash titles, Dame Susan Devoy will likely go down in history as one of the best Celebrity ...
Hera Lindsay Bird reveals the best places in Ōtepoti to score more for your apocalypse-prep book hoard.Sometimes I get the feeling I’ve been killed in a car crash, and this second half of my life is just the brain unspooling itself, like one of those episodes of a hospital ...
ThreeNow’s new murder mystery series takes us on a dark, damp journey into the Australian wilderness.This is an excerpt from our weekly pop culture newsletter Rec Room. Sign up here. High Country is ThreeNow’s new Australian eight-part crime drama, set in a remote part of the Victorian highlands. It tells ...
Introducing a new way to read The Spinoff every weekend. After nearly 10 years of being an online magazine, we’re finally embracing the weekend liftout. Despite our best efforts to convince you otherwise, writers and editors at The Spinoff don’t work weekend. It is through the sheer power of technology ...
Tip one: let yourself be nurtured by this big old man. Tip two: don’t ask him to adopt you. So, you’ve arrived at your first session with a new therapist. He tells you to make yourself comfortable and you opt for the tweed armchair, hoping it makes you look like ...
I didn’t know books could open you back up; that there were books that stayed with you, where reading was like a chemical event. I knew nothing.The Sunday Essay is made possible thanks to the support of Creative New Zealand.Not too long ago, I was listening to the American ...
Former Olympic swimmer James Magnussen has already started training for the Enhanced games, though says he won’t start taking performance enhancing substances until about nine months out from the competition. The Australian world champion was the first athlete to be announced by Enhanced, but he says the organisation has had ...
Everyone thinks he’s dead. Every day they expect his body to be washed up along the coast. Most likely up Karitane way, the way the tide’s running. But nobody’ll be too surprised if his body’s never found. Even in death he wouldn’t have wished for such attention. He would have ...
Council members voted 21 to 4 in favour of Ahluwalia returning to the Laucala campus following a much-awaited meeting in Vanuatu this week. It comes as USP and its two unions — the Association of the University of the South Pacific Staff (AUSPS) and the Administration and Support Staff Union ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Nicola Henry, Professor & Australian Research Council Future Fellow, Social and Global Studies Centre, RMIT University Shutterstock Following an emergency meeting of the National Cabinet this week, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has announced a raft of measures to tackle the problem ...
Analysis - A poll showing the opposition is more popular than the government raises questions, politicians go through their 'trial by pay rise' and a Green MP loses her cool in the debating chamber. ...
The entire stretch of Tokomaru Bay on the East Coast will be subject to a joint customary marine title for two hapū, and extending up to four miles out to sea. A High Court judge has found the two groups, who during the case settled a dispute over boundaries for ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By James Hall, Lecturer, Media & Cultural Studies, Edith Cowan University A longstanding feud between TikTok and Universal Music Group seems to have finally reached an end, with both parties signing a deal that will see Universal-backed music returned to the social media ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Siobhan O’Dean, Postdoctoral Research Associate, The Matilda Centre for Research in Mental Health and Substance Use, University of Sydney After several highly publicised alleged murders of women in Australia, the Albanese government this week pledged more than A$925 million over five years ...
Political parties have now fully disclosed the donations they received last year - with National getting more than double the cash of any other party. ...
A Pacific regionalism expert has called out New Zealand's Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters for withholding information from the public on AUKUS military pact. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Richard de Grijs, Professor of Astrophysics, Macquarie University Bruno Scramgnon/Pexels All systems are “go” for tonight’s launch of China’s next step in a carefully planned lunar exploration program. Placed on top of a powerful Long March 5 rocket, the Chang’e 6 ...
National returned a massive donation the day after a Newsroom story linked the donors to a property being investigated for operating unlawfully as a migrant workers’ hostel. The party’s 2023 donation filings, released on Friday, show it returned a $200,000 donation from Buen Holdings on August 23. That was the ...
Pacific Media Watch New Zealand has slumped to an unprecedented 19th place in the annual Reporters Without Borders World Press Freedom Index survey released today on World Press Freedom Day — May 3. This was a drop of six places from 13th last year when it slipped out of its ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Joshua Black, Political Historian and Administrator Officer, Australian Historical Association, Australian National University Australia has had its fair share of public record-keeping controversies in recent years. Some have been mere farce, as in the case of two formerly government-owned filing cabinets (containing ...
Heavenly Culture, World Peace, Restoration of Light (HWPL), a United Nations-affiliated organization dedicated to fostering peace through civilian-led initiatives, has issued a statement in response to the escalating conflict between Israel and Iran. ...
A poem by Tessa Keenan, from AUP New Poets 10. Mātou These days we are a photograph; one of a farm strewn with cows that used to be bright harakeke or swamp. The kids point at it and say the sun sits behind a smudge (left by someone at Christmas); ...
The only published and available best-selling indie book chart in New Zealand is the top 10 sales list recorded every week at Unity Books’ stores in High St, Auckland, and Willis St, Wellington.AUCKLAND1 Small Things Like These by Claire Keegan (Faber & Faber, $25)The masterful Irish writer ...
Marriage and civil union statistics record the number of marriages and civil unions registered in New Zealand each year, and divorce statistics record the number of divorces granted in New Zealand each year. Key facts Marriages and civil unions In ...
Marriage and civil union statistics record the number of marriages and civil unions registered in New Zealand each year, and divorce statistics record the number of divorces granted in New Zealand each year. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Lennon Y.C. Chang, Associate Professor of Cyber Risk and Policy, Deakin University Taiwan stands out as a beacon of democracy, innovation and resilience in an increasingly autocratic region. But this is under growing threat. In recent years, China has used a variety ...
In this excerpt from her new memoir, Dame Susan Devoy remembers her turn as star contestant on the 2022 season of Celebrity Treasure Island. The most anxious time of every day was pre-elimination, when you knew this could be your final day on the show. I felt such contradictory emotions, ...
A week that began in triumph ended in an all-too-familiar disaster for the Green Party. Duncan Greive asks if there’s something in the mission that breaks its best and brightest. A long, strange week for the Green party began with a fantastic poll result. On one level this is hardly ...
By Lydia Lewis, RNZ Pacific journalist Vanuatu’s former prime minister and opposition MP Ishmael Kalsakau has stepped down — just two days after he confirmed he was the rightful opposition leader. Kalsakau, MP for Port Vila, confirmed to ABC’s Pacific Beat, and the Vanuatu Daily Post on Thursday that he ...
What’s to blame for the coalition’s choppy start? Six months in, and the mojo meter is in the doldrums. A new poll would put National out of power and sees its leader, Chris Luxon, sliding in popularity. How much is it about policy, how much coalition management and a perception ...
The striking report goes far beyond the proposed repeal of the Oranga Tamariki Act’s Treaty of Waitangi provision, and its impact should be felt far beyond the unique circumstances of the claim it addresses. Earlier this week, the Waitangi Tribunal released an interim report on the government’s proposed repeal of ...
The world has been experiencing a productivity slowdown, from which New Zealand has not been exempt. COVID-19 temporarily boosted labour productivity, but more recently, productivity has retreated. The overall trend since 2007 has been one of slow productivity ...
What’s more wasteful than spending $315k on syrup and machine maintenance? Trying to drum up a controversy about it.Cast your mind back to the pre-pandemic idylls of 2019. A “rat” was a disgusting rodent and not a self-administered plague test; the sixth Labour government was in power; and the ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Kate Fitz-Gibbon, Professor of Social Sciences, Faculty of Arts, Monash University, Monash University Ken stocker/Shutterstock In the wake of numerous killings of women allegedly by men’s violence in 2024, thousands of Australians have joined rallies across the country to demand action ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Henry Cutler, Professor and Director, Macquarie University Centre for the Health Economy, Macquarie University Oleg Ivanov IL/Shutterstock Waiting times for public hospital elective surgery have been in the news ahead of this year’s federal budget. That’s the type of non-emergency surgery ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Konstantine Panegyres, McKenzie Postdoctoral Fellow, Historical and Philosophical Studies, The University of Melbourne Amna Artist/Shutterstock One of the earliest descriptions of someone with cancer comes from the fourth century BC. Satyrus, tyrant of the city of Heracleia on the Black Sea, ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By John Rose, Professor of Sustainable Future Transport, University of Sydney LanaElcova/Shutterstock Electric vehicles are often seen as the panacea to cutting emissions – and air pollution – from transport. Is this view correct? Yes – but only once uptake accelerates. Despite the ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Giselle Natassia Woodley, Researcher and Phd Candidate, Edith Cowan University There is widespread agreement Australia needs to do better when it comes to gender-based violence. Anger and frustration at the numbers of women being killed saw national rallies over the weekend and ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By James Graham, Lecturer in Economics, University of Sydney Mark and Anna Photography/Shutterstock As home ownership moves further out of reach for many Australians, “rentvesting” is being touted as a lifesaver. Rentvesting is the practice of renting one property to live ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Sukhmani Khorana, Associate Professor, Faculty of Arts, Design and Architecture, UNSW Sydney Netflix The new season of Heartbreak High is garnering mixed reviews. Critics are writing about the racy story lines, comparing it to other coming-of-age series about teenage relationships and ...
Bob Carr intends to launch legal action against Winston Peters and Julie Anne Genter is facing a second allegation of bullying. Both sucked the air out of an announcement on education, writes Anna Rawhiti-Connell in this excerpt from The Bulletin, The Spinoff’s morning news round-up. To receive The Bulletin in ...
In 1995, Sally Clark went out on her own in a bold and unorthodox attempt to join an illustrious group of equestrian riders conquering the world. In the days of glovebox road maps, brick cell phones, and the hit song How Bizarre, Clark refused to follow Sir Mark Todd, Blyth ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Ben Beaglehole, Senior Lecturer, Department of Psychological Medicine, University of Otago niphon/Getty Images The number of people accessing medication for attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) in Aotearoa New Zealand increased significantly between 2006 and 2022. But the disorder is still under-diagnosed and ...
This is not our usual fare, but still needs discussion. Gareth Morgan was right all along. All cats should be kept inside from dusk to dawn. And this from someone who loves, and always had, cats.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/129751587/giant-feral-cats-are-absolute-muscle-from-dining-out-on-the-best-native-wildlife
Hi Stephen. Well the feral cat carnage is a thing I was going to put up recently too. And agree no cat "hater" here…..
But
Possums….are predators of eggs and chicks. Feral cats are predators….of everything small that moves. And not just for food !
I catch cats in traps in my garden and shoot them.
If 1000's more did this in NZ the cat problem would be under control. Many areas now have "back-yard trapping" organisations. If you don't have an organisation in your area then set one up.
I bought my trap, which also catches stoats, possums and hedgehogs, online for about $65.
This keeping cats in at night has been law in Australia for ages, and it works, though their bird life numbers are falling along with native flowering plants and insects, which imo is a contributor to losses.
It's often counter-productive when the debate around introduced pests goes down the single species path. Aotearoa has a comprehensive suite of introduced pest species that in a very short time has evolved an interdependence on each other as well as annihilating our indigenous biodiversity.
Removing one species often / usually provides an opportunity for species down the food chain to prosper. Sometimes these species are indigenous and we think we've done really well, other times the primary beneficiary is other introduced pests.
In local example a very large number of ferrets were removed from and area to manage a TB hotspot, now the same area has a rabbit problem that is proving very difficult to resolve, there's other factors at play in in this case around collective responsibility for rabbit control but this was the case before the ferrets were targeted and they were able to control their rabbits to a degree.
We need to focus on all introduced pests, and all at the same time in a co-ordinated way, to make an impact on the appalling state of our indigenous bio-diversity. This is a big ask as some introduced species, cats in particular, are hard, and get harder the further you get from human habitation.
Close to humans cats are relatively easy to catch, but your net gain may be little to negative unless you've got rodents under control as well. Get out a bit where they have no interaction with humans and it's another story, long range shooting is about the most time effective but you only get one chance, it's very demanding shooting.
Yes, now Rotorua areas have wallabies. They eat anything. A hopping goat.
Also as a cat lover – I suspect your suggestion of keeping all cats inside at night – will be a bridge too far. And, really has little, if anything, to do with the feral cat problem described in the article.
Better to concentrate on eliminating feral cats (at the same time you're eliminating other introduced predators). The 'how' of that question has yet to be decided.
I absolutely agree (and so do all of the inundated cat rehome charities) about mandatory de-sexing of kittens (unless a registered breeder is going to keep them for breeding). And think that all cats should have microchips – initially registered to the breeder, then to the new owner (i.e. no 'blank unlinked microchips).
I also think that 'owners' should be licensed as well – so people with a repeated pattern of 'poor' behaviour around animals (dumping cats, for example) aren't allowed to own again for a period (say 10 years).
However, we've had 'mandatory' registrations for dogs for quite some years – and there are still many, many unregistered (and some frankly dangerous) dogs (cf the recent case up North). So registration isn't exactly an automatically successful strategy. And needs effective enforcement (completely lacking in many areas of Auckland, for example), in order to be even marginally successful.
Rumour alluded to on Open Mike 01/09/2022, seems to have been confirmed:
"The quiet shift to more inclusive pregnancy language and the long road toward systemic change" – NZ Herald.
There is reassurance from the article (in bold so that it cannot be missed:
Women are not being erased.), so that's good. To ensure that the massaging of messaging is complete, the article also includes terms such as 'gender essentialism' and helpful education about the inherent wrongnness of Terfs, even while misrepresenting concerns.
There is some reference to research, but no link.
So, here's one: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fgwh.2022.818856/full
Of course, no article which disregards the impact on women's ability to use clear language to describe themselves or be described, can be complete without a 'feel-good story', so we have the now familiar faces of a couple where the biological female with a transman gender identity want to get pregnant, and so wish to have language that ignores the reality based biological sex component that allows that, and have their declared gender identity acknowledged in medical literature.
The feel good story is always about a woman with a claimed male identity who is obviously not suffering from any dysphoria in relation to her sexed body in that she wishes to get pregnant and have a child.
The reality is that this is being done at the behest of men who claim a female identity and wish to possess everything relating to womanhood. They can certainly perform "femininity", but they are totally unable (outside of the usual fetishised behaviour) to perform women's reproductive functions – menstruation, pregnancy, lactation etc. Therefore, these things must be uncoupled from any definition of woman or female.
The erasure of women when it comes to reproduction is entirely at the behest of autogynephiliac men and the followers of the gender ideology of which they are the "high priests".
The linked study above provides a good starting point for considering the impacts the article does not even mention.
From the Introduction:
This enrages me.
For decades women have been fighting not to be seen as just a body with a vagina. It’s absolutely insulting. How dare they!
In gender ideology, it is necessary to acknowledge women as a biological sex and material reality in order to identify yourself as a transgender person with a variant "gender identity" that is not women or female.
However, from that point on it is demanded that any reference to women, female or girl ONLY pertains to the amorphous idea of "gender identity".
The sheer arrogance and illogical nature of this appropriation of language, particularly women, female and girls removes from women (whether identifying as transgender or not) the existing word to clearly name themselves in medical literature and messaging, research, political and legislative discussions and changes, society, education, etc.
Transgender people regardless of identity, know their biological sex.
They have to, in order to dissociate from it, in terms of identity.
Recognising this does not in any way exclude them from their declared identity, or cast doubt on that personal and individual gender expression.
The impacts on women in terms of confusing messaging is as follows:
1. The demand for women to only refer to biological sex when it suits – and it only suits when describing the initial transgender incongruence – is the emotive demand of fundamentally self-absorbed people – and their allies.
"Going into that [traditional] space to see their midwife particularly if their body is changing and it's making them feel big feelings about their gender or identity anyway then going into a space that is very cis and het will be triggering for them.
"I don't think you have to be a queer midwife to provide queer inclusive pregnancy care, but you have to have done a lot of work and be a really good ally."
The word salad above is from the article, and is a quote from a medical professional. There are a lot of superfluous and propoganda terms in there that are redirecting the conversation away from objective critiques.
2. Women have only been recognised as being ill-served by the medical profession in the last few years, with treatment protocols being offered that have only been developed on male bodies, often resulting in worse outcomes for females. This inability to name women with clarity within the medical profession will not assist rectifying this problem.
3. Women adversely affected by non-use of the clear language of women, girls, females:
a) ALL – including those who identify as some other gender identity. Creating a amorphous and non-standard group of inclusive terms is harmful to ALL women in both the short and long term;
b) Women receiving medical messaging and advice in a language which is not the one in which they are fluent. Many will recognise the word women in a different language, but will not be so familiar with the completely disturbing body function terms such as: menstruator, ovulator, incubator, gestator;
c) Women who have learning impairments or communication difficulties will also be ill served by the replacement of the clear words of woman, women, female and girls;
d) Transgender identified women who are dealing with reproductive issues, or having to get treatment for women's medical issues, are not being told they have to abandon their gender identities, they are (like every other patient – man or woman) dealing with the material realities of their sexed bodies. Everyone has "big feelings" about health and wellbeing. Cancer patients don't deal with their diagnosis, by renaming it as something benign. They have already accepted that biological sex is different from gender identity, – where does this insistence that in cases where the discussion is only about biological sex come from?
There's a whole other conversation about many women throughout the generations being unable to name or identify the bodily processes and organs that a lot of "inclusive" language uses: vagina, vulva, ovaries, womb, uterus etc. They know how to deal with the effects or consequences of being a woman, or female, but not the detail of the medical terms that isolate those body parts and processes.
Apart from these issues. The fundamental takeaway is that anyone, of any sex, or gender identity that said that calling men women did not have any impact on women, females and girls – lied.
And they are continuing to lie.
The demand to give in to these lies are supported and facilitated by institutions, governments, media and discussion platforms.
Eg.
https://twitter.com/SoniaGallegoAJE/status/1566559762145230849?s=20&t=XWSgtVSElx87Z4eucPFs5g
meanwhile,
https://twitter.com/FatsOvercoat/status/1566150609610444800
Yes the poster says it all "terfs can suck my big trans cock"
Wake up people. The trans movement is not progressive in any way, shape form
Why oh why the left have gone dow n this rabbit hole, I will never know.. This movement isn’t about transgender people at all. They are a very, very tiny minority. About one in thirty thousand before queer ideology came along. And generally trans people were accepted in NZ. Georgina Beyer was both Mayor and an MP. Carmen was able to run a nightclub and was seen as a local icon (even though she pimped women), Bob Moodie the commissioner of police rocked it in a kaftan and nobody stopped him.
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The "Left" has slowly but surely been captured by Woke dogmatists among the professional middle class … a little cult of arrogant, authoritarian & utterly deluded followers in culturally & socially powerful positions. Their understanding of reality is both crudely reductive and deeply distorted.
In many respects, the antithesis of traditional Social Democracy.
Their Critical Theory perversion of the traditional Left pursuit of social justice – and their Rogernome-like imposition of radical change by stealth – is absolutely guaranteed to produce major new forms of social in-justice.
And I see my parents (and others around NZ in a similar nightmare situation) as among their earliest victims. Many many more to come.
Agree with your analysis Swordfish. We have to keep the anti social tennants in their state house as we have to provide them with wrap around services and too bloody bad about the neighbours, because we are right.
The new NZ Health, already showing itself for what it is (scroll below to see new software with more pro nouns than you can shake a stick at). What is that going to be like for the mentally ill, the elderly, people will early stage dementia, people with cancer and so on and so forth to be confronted with this nonsense).
But never mind good to know the staff will be entertained by adult entertainers in drag. Go to their insta gram account to see how they present, Maria Richman and King Chole Tamekehu.
In many respects, the antithesis of traditional Social Democracy.
And like Douglas the betrayal will echo across NZ politics for generations. Only deeper. All things considered I admire your courage in your continued speaking out swordfish – I had to let it go.
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Cheers, Red … I've noted your recent absence here … I'm guessing partly a consequence of your recently-diagnosed serious health issue and partly that you've simply had enough. You're one of the sane ones here, calmly grounded in reality, always prepared to do the right thing … unsurprising given your wealth of real-life experience & major problem-solving skills in heavy industry over several decades. Starkly contrasting with clueless keyboard warriors and their propensity towards moral panics, purity spirals & full-on scapegoating.
Me … let's face it: I'm a deadman walking … back on chemo again … little to lose, although I'd like to think I'd do the right thing regardless … constantly fuelled by anger at what my Parents are being forced to go through … along with the rank hypocrisy of our new dullard Woke Overlords … but then “hypocrisy” is such a weak word … doesn't even remotely capture the sheer cowardice, covert sadism & ruthless self-interest being pursued under all that desperate, fevered moral posturing.
Epic rant, but am struggling to work out what defines you. Is it your prognosis, is it what has happened to your parents, or is it because you are naturally right wing and always have been? Because, from the outside, it appears the thing that drives you most is the angry brown person living next door to mum and dad. You used to provide very useful stats and polling analysis but this unnamed vector is now centre to what you talk about here in a way which is not healthy at all. Please find out a way to not use this person to attack all things progressive on this platform and get back to your core skills.
Thanks in advance.
I am really sorry to hear about your situation Swordfish.
I hope you have a lot of good people around you giving you love and support.
Take care
I am not meaning to answer on Swordfishs behalf but Muttonbird, really? Really? Swordfish is dealing with what is a very serious situation in terms of his health and you ask him to find a way not to attack all things progressive on this platform (and invite him to get back to his core skills).
Wtf……….
You not the first on this site to show a complete lack of empathy towards Swordfish.
And let me say this. I have been commenting on this blog since 2013. All comments were "left wing" supportive of Labour, yada, yada.
And then Labour revealed themselves to be captured by what I considered was a crazy unscientific ideology. And I think SF may have had the same experience. When the managerial classes (in his case the Housing Ministry) thought they knew best and showed a complete lack of empathy for his elderly parents who it sounds like had been party stalwarts all their lives.
And I have to say, I have become profoundly disillusioned with the left and Labour. I suspect it has been the same for Swordfish. And I always appreciate it when he comments. Because he speaks for a lot of us when he talks about the ideological disaster Labour is. Things have got much, much worse under their watch.
I welcome Swordfish commnets. They are very real and I agree with them.
Imho, anti-wokeism is an inevitable consequence of the sustained gross inequality that is fraying Kiwi society. 'We' would have the resources to improve societal resilience were it not for the 'hesitancy' of the 'top' 10% to share more of their wealth with the 'bottom' 50% – "So it goes."
Anti-wokeism, Tamaki, VFF, Arps et al. – made for each other. They too "have a dream."
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-attacking-cancel-culture-and-woke-people-is-becoming-the-gops-new-political-strategy/
Yes because men not having access to female changing rooms, female wards in hospitals, female prison cells, female showers, female toilets and female 'designation' as in women – meaning 'female, adult human' is '
'gross sustained inequality'
cause dignity and safety is something that men need and seemingly don’t have and that women need to provide men with no question asked, and if they ask question then they should suck on some huge transcock.
And that is why the left is losing one non male / non trans voter after the other.
Some of us continue to look both ways before crossing the street to join the motley crew yelling 'facism!' 'anti-woke' or 'hard-right':
https://twitter.com/triggerpod/status/1566742947718221825?s=20&t=HIqpe07eNutWrIbjkpTYdg
Although the right have certainly capitalized on antiwoke sentiment, it should not be imagined that it is a unitary phenomenon, or particularly in tune with their natural supporters.
There are ample and increasing social ills coalescing around the loss of social engagement – Putnam's bowling alone. The 'melting pot' created by unrestricted migration benefits no-one but the exploiter employers.
In the context of the decline in home ownership, outrageous power price increases, increased cost of living and sustained long term earnings decline versus inflation, woke nonsense is cruel and provocative mockery.
To date we have only false and amateur demagogues so transparently looking for a quick buck they can only attract the lunatic fringe – but let a real left demagogue arise and the comfortable assumptions of Blairite sinecure holders will be shaken.
That makes a lot of sense – for myself, as long as those who proclaim anti-woke views also acknowledge systemic inequality, and see clearly who benefits, it's all good – "Membership has its privileges."
Black Feminism and Womanism
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/9781119314967.ch6
I think the article about GOP is just trying to smear and associate some of us who object to cancel culture by associating us with GOP and the right wing.
I am against cancel culture because it is anti free speech.
If they left were being cancelled the way some of us are who don't suppport the new woke orthodoxy, all hell would break loose.
The lack of content and critique, and the presence of censure and self-congratulation is strong in the posts you refer to:
" as long as those who proclaim anti-woke views also acknowledge systemic inequality, and see clearly who benefits, it's all good".
I agree with your assessment of intention and contribution value.
You could be right – maybe that's what the author had in mind.
Or indeed if 'they right' were being cancelled – wouldn’t it be wonderful if those in charge (of whatever political flavour) could work not just to ameliorate the more severe consequences of gross inequality, but actually tackle inequality itself. But it’s just a dream.
Please go and find your moral compass and your 'kindness' indicator, you seem to have lost both.
Or at least learn to shorten your Order to:
Shut up, Obey, do as told.
I am really sorry to hear about your situation Swordfish.
I hope you have a lot of good people around you giving you love and support.
Take care
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Thanks, Anker … I've really appreciated your support (both politically and health-wise).
Swordfish. Our household was under attack from an abusive neighbour for eight months, during the first lockdown. Not only abusive to us, but also his teenage partner. Police were regular visitors, but of no practical help. In fact, their suggestions, when followed at the cost of additional stress were ignored when the results were offered to them. During this time, life goes on, and you have to deal with the otherstresses of life without having the respite of the safe haven of home. Later discovered that the constant breaking of Lockdown Rules was sufficient to warrant immediate eviction. I have empathy for your parents and any others living in such a hellish situation. The failure to address this situation, is one of many failures from successive governments. Labour does not represent to me, a government with understanding past their own political bubble and social circles.
Also, wanted to wish you well for your treatment and health.
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Exactly … forced into constant severe stress, sleep deprivation & major personal safety concerns in their own home & neighbourhood (where they may have lived in peace for decades) … regardless of whether the victims are very elderly like my parents or not, it rapidly destroys people's lives & health … while the Woke ostentatiously proclaim their solidarity with the perpetrators (or at minimum act as apologists), apparently under the delusion that this signals their "unusually-refined moral sensibilities".
“See how “progressive” I am … see how I champion those at the very bottom of the Underclass … am I not special everyone ???”
Like the violent anti-social perpetrators, the ID Pols bourgeoisie are simply users & abusers of other people for their own self-interest. All that public faux-moral posturing acts as a perpetual alibi & shield, allowing them to maintain power & control.
Cheers, genuinely appreciate it.
All good, swordfish.
Been going through similar health treatments over the last couple of years, so I have some understanding of that journey.
Apparently, it hasn't stopped my opinions as much as some would like.
PS. Don't hesitate in get in touch via the backend if you want to discuss options for pain relief. Close friend dx with leukaemia so between us we have a few tried and true remedies.
<<<<swordfish>>>>
Cheers, Sabine.
Redlogix, I missed your comment regarding your situation.
Wishing you all the best.
Even though, this is a bit off-topic in terms of the necessity of clear language for women's health, it strikes me that for once this statement is pretty-much accurate for a change.
As a demonstration of the declaration this week by another commenter, of the allyship provided to women by gender ideology activists it is also fairly typical.
It also shows the familiar demand for women to provide sexual services, when they have the temerity to open their mouths for other uses – like expressing opinions.
So, in terms of analysis:
1. Accurate statement for once. Good example of women's rights allyship. Familiar demand for sexual act.
2. Response:
TERF's 'can' but probably don't want to. Especially those that are lesbians. And those with some level of sexual partner standards, and healthy feelings of self worth, and those men labelled with TERF who are heterosexual, or homosexual – with again, some level of standards when it comes to sexual partners.
It's a pity one of the few factual unequivocal statements they have come up with is one with not a lot of appeal to the stated target audience.
(Well, of course there might be other reasons for why this appeal for sexual intimacy is expressed in such a way. I'm sure others will be able to help out on possible intentions.)
Their first response is usually a threat of sexual violence. Those Y chromosomes win out every time. https://terfisaslur.com/
That's true.
Spent some hilarious time with my daughter this morning, trying to come up with equivalent responses expressed by women to men who disagree with them.
We did compose a few, but can't come up with any that seem to be in common use.
Perhaps, some of the men on here who have been responded to in such a way can post the female sexual demand riposte equivalent?
I see it as a rape statement. It's not an invitation for sex.
Also, imagine getting female specific health care like a cervical smear from a man who identifies as a woman who is AGP. For that reason I don't see it as too off topic. Women are being made invisible, along with our needs and rights. Violence aimed at GCFs online is part of the push to get women to shut the fuck up.
"I see it as a rape statement. It's not an invitation for sex."
TBH, I do as well. Thanks for pointing it out.
I have moderated my personal perspective, so that those unfamiliar with the persistence and celebrated repetitive occurrence of this phrase, can attempt to justify it by basic language analysis.
When people are unable to understand that woman is an adult human female, I think there will be an unnecessary and completely pointless diversion into what the term 'rape culture' means.
I am offering them an opportunity to defend this use at the most basic level of communication. Let’s see if anyone steps up.
“Also, imagine getting female specific health care like a cervical smear from a man who identifies as a woman who is AGP. For that reason I don’t see it as too off topic. Women are being made invisible, along with our needs and rights. Violence aimed at GCFs online is part of the push to get women to shut the fuck up.”
I do agree with this. These are the legitimate concerns regarding the negative impacts of gender ideology demands on women’s healthcare, that are obvious to many women who have taken time to consider this issue.
From previous conversations on here, I am inclined to assume that many have not taken that time, so I leave space for that to occur.
Your comments are a reliable starting point, as always.
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it is the age old rape threat given to women that don't behave, and it includes the excuse of : You made me do it. If you would have shut up, be obedient adn do as a tell you to do I would not have to force you to suck my huge transcock.
And it came courtesy of Die Linke, which is a left political party in the German Government.
It is literally the left telling women and some men to be good girls/boys lest they get sexually abused, which of course is the fault of the victim not doing as government says they should do. It is a government sanctioned rape threat.
https://twitter.com/wekatweets/status/1566214103613333509
for those reading wondering what the hell is going on, or those who still think that gender identity politics isn't rife with misogyny, here's a post about suck my trans dick people protesting a feminist conference.
.https://thestandard.org.nz/new-misogyny-same-as-the-old-misogyny/
The speaker is a person in parliament as a Queer Advocate and the tent was provided for by DIE Linke a left party in government. 🙂
Yes, Frauenhass is jetzt wieder modern and bei allen beliebt.
Now fall in line and obey or else suck this huge transcock ………………..
How long until we get that same rethoric in public here? And lets also always keep in mind, that there is currently not ONE political party that would dare to defend the rights of the domestic mental health support animals that are threatened with the forced sucking of said huge cocks of the transwoman.
The question that the human support providing animals formerly known as women/girls (as in born non penis havers) needs to ask itself why and whom they can vote for in order to protect even a shred of their rights?
I think it's less likely to happen in NZ because NZ is more conservative sexually.
We also don't see the same kind of sexualised violence abuse in NZ twitter when the terf/TRA fights happen. In some ways this makes it harder to push back the ideology, because it's so 'reasonable' here.
I'm curious now though if any of the Pride marches in NZ have had this kind of bullshit to any degree at all.
Hey Sabine,
Do you know the name of the speaker and/or have link to the details of this?
This is what i found.
First two tweets are images with the Logo of Die Linke.
The last tweet is a from a woman who recognized the speaker.
https://twitter.com/_CallMeNemo_/status/1566116470836297734
https://twitter.com/_CallMeNemo_/status/1566115653681029121
His name is Sven Lehman a Member of the Buedniss90DieGruenen
https://www.gruene-bundestag.de/abgeordnete/infos-zur-person/sven-lehmann
https://mobile.twitter.com/JSevincBasad/status/1566120965397962752/photo/1
a little more on this role
https://www.dw.com/en/lgbtq-rights-germany-appoints-first-commissioner-for-queer-affairs/a-60351173
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If only Die Linke had had the good sense to listen to Wagenknecht's trenchant critique of its swing towards the cultural extremism of Woke bourgeois niche politics & its associated abandonment of working & lower-middle voters and what might be called progressive populism.
The Linke and Buedniss90DieGruenen will singlehandedly increase the number of voters to the AfD.
Thanks.
The deliberate dismissal of this messaging not being typical, even when it is from a parliamentary advocate member of the Green Party, and from a tent sponsored by another left-wing party speaks volumes.
I am meh about the Greens, they put three w-man on the womens list up.
But die Linke is a disappointment. They used to be a very decent party on the left, and had good talent.
Thanks Molloy. The trans man who wants to get pregnant is in fact a biological woman (they are lucky not to have had gender affirming health care that may have robbed them of their fertility). So this very small minority of people are so special we have to change our language and no longer be called women, so therefore no longer be able to identity as a sex class.
I also have it on good authority that Health NZ are having a drag kareoke event at their premises for staff. Are any other advocacy groups going to be invited to provide entertainment for Health NZ staff? Why drag Queens? Aren't they usually adult entertainment? Anyone remember the disasterous vodafone xmas party with Thai strippers a decade or two ago?
While we still have an outstanding pay agreement with nurses, mid wives taking the govt to court, acute staff shortages across health, a dementia unit closing the Hutt Valley due to lack of staff, Health NZ manages to find the time to put on entertainment for themselves (and adult entertainment to boot)/
Welcome to the age of the management class, those who know best.
Auckland Council has "Drag Queen Story Time " in local libraries as a children's event. Drag relies on sexualised parodies of women by men ("womanface" anybody?) and is definitely not children's entertainment. It is all about forcing gender ideology into every facet of society.
I don't think that it's Auckland Libraries. Though it seems to have been at multiple other libraries around the country.
I know that there was a road-show tour in 2020 – and gather that it's continued (absent lockdowns).
https://www.eventfinda.co.nz/tour/2020/erika-coco-flashs-rainbow-storytime-nz-tour
But it doesn't seem to have come to Auckland, at all.
There was something at the Art Gallery this year, but not, as far as I can see, at the Libraries.
https://www.aucklandartgallery.com/whats-on/event/rainbow-storytime?q=%2Fwhats-on%2Fevent%2Frainbow-storytime
Those libraries, which did host the events, have faced quite a bit of backlash from their communities. Not an issue having women or men (if one is allowed to use those gendered nouns) dressed up as fairies, elves or unicorns for story time (which librarians have been doing for decades) – bring it on – the toddlers will be dancing in the aisles. But no responsible parent wants their preschoolers exposed to hyper-sexualized adult entertainment.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/online-backlash-to-rainbow-storytime-drag-performers-shocks-community-we-still-have-a-long-way-to-go/ZL6VLHKGDW4NCQLYLDKGOJZQXU/
The Art Gallery does seem to be the location for the Rainbow Story Time event. Partly funded by 'targeted rates'.
"Proudly supported by Auckland Council and the city centre targeted rate."
It would have been entirely reasonable for Auckland Council to record and post the sessions online, so both advocates and those with concerns could have an informed discussion.
As for myself, Drag Queens are character (or caricature) performers based on sexist stereotypes of women, primarily for the entertainment of adults. Due to this, the stereotypes are often over-sexualised parodies of women. Most Drag Queen performances are ad-libbed when it comes to vocals, or embrace the inferior vocal prowess of performers to emphasise the parody. Choreography is not about skill or dancer control, it is – once again – usually limited to strutting, prancing and sexual moves.
I believe there is a real connection between people who are unable to fully accept any deviation from heterosexual norms in terms of expression, and those who are now unable to distinguish the difference between a performance based character, and sexuality and gender expression.
Another possible contender using the current inclusion criteria might be this fantastic woman:
https://youtu.be/o-50GjySwew
They may well not have had the rights to do so, from the music perspective. Having had a bit to do with licensing performances through APRA – there is a big difference, both in cost and ability to license, music which is intended for live performance only, and where that performance is recorded.
Music composers and rights holders can (and do) refuse permission for their work to be recorded (they are sometimes willing to make exemptions for kids performances – where the recording is only available to the individual families) – but very frequently decline commercial shows (like this one) – or charge very substantially higher fees.
Edit. Realized that I’m assuming that music was a component of this – which it was in the original shows. This one may have only been story-book narration. Who knows?
"This one may have only been story-book narration. Who knows?"
Unfortunately, for the accuracy of this particular series of events very few.
Also unlikely that those promoting, booking or attending this event in the past would provide an objective critical view either.
My personal critique of Drag Queens used in such a way, is predicated on the points I made above, not this particular occurrence involving Coco Flash and Erika.
West Auckland libraries a couple of weeks ago. We walked past the advertisement at the Pt Chevalier library – complete with the invaded Rainbow flag of Gender Ideology. Definitely Auckland Council libraries.
Well, they're certainly not promoting it online.
Just checked the Pt Chev facebook page. And only found their standard 'Wriggle and rhyme' preschool event. There is a LGBTQ+ craft group/event listed – but that's it.
https://www.facebook.com/pointchevalierlibrary
It was some weeks ago as part of a reading festival.
Well, I have no reason to doubt your statement regarding the promotion of gender ideology at Pt Chevalier library.
A quick look at their Facebook page for the branch shows that they have spectrumed/rainbow-ised/declarised the Auckland Council logo to show their stance.
This is just performative guff though, and a redirect to a totally different discussion.
I'd really like those supporting Drag Queens events for children to clearly state what they consider the benefits to be. For children.
Smashing the binary stuff would be my guess. Which I don't have a problem with so long as people can also then talk about times when the binary matters.
And I'd like to see the DQ community and allies stand up and address the issues of hypersexualisation and parodies of women. If DQST isn't sexualised and isn't doing parody performance, is there a problem?
"If DQST isn't sexualised and isn't doing parody performance, is there a problem?"
I consider this to the equivalent of asking if you remove the shell, the yolk and the albumen – can you still call it an egg?
Ignoring that personal view, surely the question focus should be:
"Even if DQST isn't sexualised and isn't doing parody performance, what is the benefit for children?"
not hard to see how DQST can be done sexualised or not sexualised (we've seen both right?). Less clear is the parody.
It's the inclusivity excuse that I find unconvincing.
Drag Queen performance – sans sexual innuendo and caricature – is a character stereotype, alongside comparable (now avoided stereotypes such as Mickey Rooney's character portrayal in Breakfast at Tiffany's).
As such, it has nothing at all to do with sexual orientation, or gender identity. It also has nothing to do with personal diversity in self-expression in day-to-day life, because it is performance based.
In terms of showing high levels of skill in performance arts, such as singing and dancing it is also fairly unconvincing. The Drag Queen performers don't usually display high levels of skill in this respect, the entertainment value is not based on this criteria.
If the performers – as gay or transgender performers without the added component of drag queen character – were employed to promote diversity – then that makes more sense in terms of diversity.
But we need to remember the first intention of libraries and children.
To inculcate within children an enduring interest in reading, literature and the written word.
If this intention is achieved children will be introduced to diversity, different perspectives and challenges to their own biases by what they read.
a man presenting as an absolute caricature of 'woman' sexualised to he hilt is smashing the binary.
Yeah, right Tui.
The drag queen storytime thing is a storm in a teacup. My wife took my five year old daughter to one of these events at our library. The content was entirely age appropriate around being yourself – no gender indoctrination going on. It does children no harm to meet different types of people in a respectful and positive environment.
The efforts to delete women from the English vocabulary and dehumanisation into "bodies with vaginas" to appease a tiny minority is a much bigger problem than a performer reading children's books. Let's fight the battles that matter.
Oh, Leighton.
What is the benefit to children in regards to the written word?
Drag is not:
The warm glowing feeling experienced by adults who organise, book and attend such events is immaterial.
The question is primarily: What is the benefit to children in regards to the written word?
It will show girls that women are garish, overly sexualised men.
It will show boys that "women" are garish overly sexualised men.
It will show both, that men can be what they want, women and girls needn't apply.
Maybe we can have a Cop reads a book day, Firefighter reads a book day, Nurse reads a book day, homeless person reads a book day – and be these readers men and women to show to the kids that anyone can be a cop, teacher/nurse or even homeless?
Oh that would not be 'smashing the binary' enough?
Mind another thought, it is to groom these kids into accepting Drag, Prostituion, etc as future jobs for them.
Well, that doesn't seem to align with the stated aim (video above) 'to promote visibility, acceptability, self-confidence and inclusivity'.
But perhaps it does, in some way. Given that there is no details about the why and how.
After watching the video, I have a suspicion that one of the drag artists is one of the emerging cohort of women who are performing drag, in order to express their inner colourfulness.
I don't think I want to even analyse that new development here. Many are having difficulty with the basics.
If you want to 'queer' i.e. put under the trans umbrella everyone than overly sexualised performances by adult entertainer for children makes perfectly good sense. The younger you start the more accepting they will be simply by emulating what adults do. I.e. monkey see monkey do. If the parents have no objections to such children targeted adult entertainment then of course that re-inforces to the child that this is Ok. After all, we are all gender and gender identification/expression. Thus grown adult man larping womanhood to children is considered 'educational'. Draq Queening is considered a normal job, as is stripping, burlesque entertainment, sex work is work etc etc etc.
In the same sense as we are in the process of finishing the process of removing the word woman – adult human female i.e. carrier of large gametes for the last billion of years or so – from any reproductive function. At that stage, incubator/surrogate/birthing body providing, lactating, egg harvesting all become chargeable services and jobs for said carriers of the large gametes. Together with sex work is work, being finally able to incubate and provide human livestock , human livestock suitable food, and unfertilized eggs for human lifestock to other humans in exchange for a handfull of dollars and / or a bowl of rice the carriers of the large gamete will finally have beat patriarchy and was truly liberated from the shackles of made up societal gender stereotypes.
The physical body will be separated from the mind, the two shall never meet in the middle and both can be modified at will by surgery and drugs. Woot Woot.
See here posted by Glinner:
https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/all-eyes-on-the-royal-college-of
admission to services based on 'gender expression'.
Watching the video, it is apparent it is the adults that are responsive to the performance – such as it is.
I query the benefit of giving such young children mixed messages regarding their own developing sense of self and others. Some of the younger attendees look to be the age of those who think things twink out of existence if they are not visible.
Children also go through a development stage of assigning sex by stereotypical signs such as clothes, hair length etc, and then develop a greater understanding that these things are not representative of the material reality of sex.
This understanding of child development seems to be missing here. How do you explain that the man pretending to be a woman, but wearing clothes associated with womenhood, and exaggerated makeup and performance is actually a man, but needs to be referred to as she, and a woman?
You don't explain that, you don't expect that to be explained, in fact you might even find that providing 'explaining' to confused kids becomes 'conversion therapy'.
Boys are girls, girls are boys and everyone can be anything any time in-between, surgery, drugs, pronouns and enforced affirmation will do so.
The confusion is wanted. In order to implement the new you need to destroy the old. So whatever the little children feel of themselves needs to be cancelled and confused – queered. And then you bring forth your new ideas of 'self id' and explain the genderbread person to the kids and where they may fit on the scale of 1 – 10 of either male or female and tell them that that confusion that was put in their little heads is natural and that there are a 8 billion genders and they have to just choose what they want to be.
And you re-enforce that 'choice' of what one is per self id in school, university and borgplaces of employment. And anyone who dares be different to that promoted ideology gets cancelled and ostracized by polite society.
You might like this artist. 🙂
https://twitter.com/tatsuyaishida9?lang=en
Appropriate safeguarding and understanding of childhood development, seems to be completely missing in practice here.
The very real vulnerability of children to influence and exploitation is completely waved away by abstract ill defined 'inclusivity' and 'diversity' excuses, as if they were magic words.
( I do like that artist… already following.
Apparently, they lost quite a few followers for a while, but I think they have regained numbers for some reason or another. )
The definition of 'appropriate' has changed. This is now considered by government, academia, education, etc 'appropriate'. Appropriate enough to spend rate payers and tax payers funds on.
Voltaire — 'If you wish to converse with me, define your terms.'
Equity, so yeah, you will have Drag Kings. And that too is generally speaking a grotesque caricature of what is a man.
We are unfortunately beyond the threshold of women adopting the caricature of women, and performing as Drag Queens themselves…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_queen_(drag)#:~:text=A%20female%20queen%2C%20AFAB%20queen,birth%20(%22AFAB%22).
Yeah, why not. I mean if the others get to abuse the physical reality of the otherothers then why should the otherothers not try to bank on it while they can? A person got to make a living, right?
@ Sabine – that comment is sheer poetry.
(Do you have the expertise to do a haiku about a chair? Apparently they are almost impossible to define without mime.)
Funny how this "inclusive language" never involves phrases like "people with prostates", "semen ejaculators" etc. It's always the female humans being erased by this gibberish, with a cheery handwave of "Women are not being erased." They think we're idiots – or they are. Neither is good.
I really should do a post on this.
https://twitter.com/aniobrien/status/1566224968920096771
I am inclined to think that it is primarily men and women who have a very restricted idea about male expression, and who are active proponents of this ideology, that explains this phenomenon.
I mentioned it here, a couple of days ago:
"The other suspicion I have about men who so emphatic about other men being accepted as women, is this:
For all their talk about acceptance, inclusion and kindness, and let's admit it – complete ignorance about being female, a girl or a woman – their insistence that transvestites, autogynophiles, men who just declare themselves as women MUST BE accepted in all ways as women, is because they are both unable and unwilling to accommodate such men alongside themselves as 'men'.
That is why, they choose to abuse women who say they accept that diversity of trans people, but not the lie of biological sex change. They are unable to accept transwomen as men, because their idea of men is limited, so any variation must belong in the non-men category. "
The follow-on corollary to this, is that such fundamental adherence to a very limited and masculine idea of men, makes any admittance of transmen into that category a moot point. They also don't meet that limited criteria for men. They remain non-men.
In other words, they know transmen are women, so they don't have to make changes or accommodate them as men in language, healthcare or any other way. Even given that the negative impacts for men in this respect are nowhere near as significant as what is occurring for women, this view protects men from the slightest discomfort or boundary testing.
this but it's complex, because TM need healthcare for women too. Also, there are two dynamics at play in how women's language is affected: the desire to accommodate TM/NBF, and the pressure to accommodate TW/AGPs. That double dynamic doesn't happen with men's language.
I see the shift in language for women as being largely sexist and misogynistically driven. Because if it weren't, the various health systems would be applying the philosophical change evenly, it would just be a matter of course: how can we make language more inclusive for trans/NB people? We can neutralise all language. Which they're not doing.
I'd guess there is also a dynamic around women being more willing to give things up and care take, whereas men aren't going to do that unless they're made to. The degree to which midwifery has removed women's language is alarming.
All women need clear language, protocols, guidance and messaging for healthcare. Regardless of gender identity.
Alongside women with specific health needs, eg. endometriosis, gynaecological issues etc, women using medical or surgical transition interventions require specific attention to impacts resulting from cosmetic surgery and endocrine disruptions. This remains true for anyone who has had interventions whether they are currently trans-identified or detransitioners. There is a lack of information in this regard for all transgender people that needs to be filled, by quality information and healthcare.
The reality is, that women do have a body that evolutionary processes have designed for reproduction, and so there are many times in life when that results in greater levels and occurences of hormonal variance and impact on health from those variances, that occur for men.
There is also, as you say, a societal expectation connected to the way this is being played out.
Misogyny and sexism at the bottom of it, alright. It's true that if they tried to claim men should be referred to as sperm deliverers or prostate havers, the backlash would be immediate and uncompromising. But they don't seem to have even thought of trying to make those claims – it's only directed at women.
These people know who they are marketing to, MEN, MEN and MEN.
https://www.facebook.com/ProstateCancerFoundationofNewZealand
The insanity is deliberate and ongoing apparently:
https://twitter.com/kiriceilidh/status/1566191309601136640?s=20&t=ddcAxTWae7akzY35EdN8Rw
OK pretty obvious that Health NZ is leaking like a sift.
Good grief this fails (abysmally) the common test of 'what would this look like on the front page of the newspaper?'
Perhaps it just means a dress up /fancy dress party? Again fails the sniff test, remember Prince Harry and his appearance in a German officer's uniform. Actually it is pathetic really.
No probs with a party, hopefully run by the social club with minimal organisation $$$$, but anything other than that shows a level of ignorance about history and perception that we should not be expecting from such an organisation.
Perhaps a banner along the lines of that above could be used by people picketing the event…..though it would probably zoom straight over their heads.
This is such a minefield now that any fun, if there ever was any, has gone now.
You could argue the other way too that an event like this makes fun of others. In the olden days it used to be hulking rugby types that had most fun cross dressing. Every fancy dress party, ‘back in the day’ had these short skirted, shoe wobbling dopes with OTT makeup. They may still do this in a rugby clubrooms far far away…….
I remember years ago being in lectures where the topic was the impact of technology on mankind.
Apparently people were going to need to learn how to live with lots of leisure, with time on their hands. It has been interesting to observe how things have developed.
Where have we got to? We order groceries online so someone will do our shopping for us. We order food to be delivered to us. In 60 years there has been an exponential explosive growth in takeaway food businesses.
We get people in to mow our lawns or walk our dogs. And with all tne busyness gone we have time to devote to contemplating gender issues. Oh that Nana and grandma had had that time, and grandpa and pop.
Grandma and Grandpa and even our mums and dad's would think the gender stuff was crazy, I am sure.
They knew all too well who could and who couldn't have babies, who would carry the child, give birth, breast feed etc. They knew it was only women who could do this.
I would have no interest in discussing gender, but for the insidious way the ideology is imposing itself on women, girls and boys.
Here's a gender studies 'expert' who adds ? to the conversation.Seeking the truth is condescending and rude in their world.
https://youtu.be/nMUXQtaoN54
Now you know why No Debate is the central tenet of their movement. These are above all post-modernists, persons that accept no criticism or common standards, or terrorist obscurantists as they have been called.
The traditional term is probably better however – sophists. These folk claim wisdom, but refuse to demonstrate it. Philosophers make no such claim, only that they would prefer wisdom, if they were able to establish what it was.
Isocrates expressed a disdain for the pseudo science of sophists,for both receiving payment to teach falsehoods,and the ability to suggest that "science" can predetermine happiness and success (as an ordered pathway)
1 There is, according to Isocrates, no “science” which can teach us to do under all circumstances the things which will insure our happiness and success. Life is too complicated for that, and no man can foresee exactly the consequences of his acts—“the future is a thing unseen.” All that education can do is to develop a sound judgement (as opposed to knowledge) which will meet the contingencies of life with resourcefulness and, in most cases, with success. This is a fundamental doctrine of his “philosophy” which he emphasizes and echoes again and again in opposition to the professors of a “science of virtue and happiness.”
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0144%3Aspeech%3D13%3Asection%3D2
Thanks – I know it when I see it – but my explanations are less than thorough.
SM …….Definitely what I would class as sophistry. I had always thought sophistry was pejorative……like how many gender fluid angels can dance on a pin head etc.
Most irritating was the turning the question back on the questioner which can be an aid to developing thinking skills but done to excess, as this guy (the so-called Professor) did it, adds nothing.
It is a lily white version of the Socratic method where in a dialogue between the two the answer would be found.
I can see that people should be free to be and express themselves as they wish. The prime caveat is that it harms no-one else. The way this movement is shaping up it is laying to waste any advances against misogyny and harming women.
Its almost like a parody….please, please tell me its a parody. Please tell me this interview is not true.
Sounds like they should read this piece about alternative facts.
https://theconversation.com/theres-no-such-thing-as-alternative-facts-5-ways-to-spot-misinformation-and-stop-sharing-it-online-152894
Here is more about Matt Walsh about his doco "What is a Woman. (Wiki)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Is_a_Woman%3F#:~:text=What%20Is%20a%20Woman%3F%20is,from%20critics%20and%20political%20commentators.
I haven't listened to all of this – (my transit time today – which is my usual listening time, has been cut short) – but the excerpts from the promo sound really good.
I know that Paula Bennet is anathema to many here – but it sounds like a really good interview with Michelle Dickinson (aka Nanogirl) who is someone I have a lot of time for.
The more we can make science an interesting and cool thing to be interested in, and potentially to build a career around, the better of NZ will be as a society.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/education/ask-me-anything-paula-bennett-and-dr-michelle-dickinson-on-education-pregnancy-and-sexism-in-engineering/4TFBSZIXXWWFXD4NEV6CZSZ7AY/?c_id=1&objectid=12549486&ref=rss
OK pretty obvious that Health NZ is leaking like a sift.
sieve – am I missing something?
Sive. Cheers Robert.
1. Rumour has it from a good source that there is a debate within Health NZ about how to define what is a women.
2. Leak about a drag queen karioke event for staff.
3. Dr Carol Hamilton (whoever she is) on twitter showing the new software with various genders, pro nouns etc.
I found this Dr Carol Hamilton. She references this thread on TS I think
https://twitter.com/kiriceilidh
What you’ve done there is link to her account not the tweet. This means what we see is her latest tweets not the one being referred to.
to link to a tweet (or blog post or FB post or any social media post), always click on the time/date stamp on the tweet/post you want and then copy the URL.
Engaging with rhe public health system currently in a couple of different aspects the only word that seems appropriate is 'disarray'….particularly the hospitals.
The inmates are truly running the asylum.
When trust is lost it is exceedingly difficult to regain.
We've had an ongoing interaction with the health system that's spanned the Covid period and haven't noticed that much of a change on the Health System side. Have noticed a bit of a change in patient attitude, which in some cases has gone south in a big way, and Health System adjustments to manage that. Found everything efficient and organised to manage with Covid and the fuckwits.
Where we have seen a change is that the old geographic boundaries around the South seem to be going and wider options are talked about.
Had significant interaction with the hospital system the couple of years prior to covid and the difference is like night and day….pre covid obviously constrained but functional, currently not so.