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Whilst Auckland still got the bore machine.
Adaptation, what we got to do
Alice is long gone and Domenica's a baby.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/alice-the-giant-tunnel-boring-machine-says-goodbye/KSLQXYRIHCB3VMEDYJKQNA7VKA/
https://rem.info/en/actualites/TBM-alice-finishes
https://www.watercare.co.nz/About-us/News-media/Central-Interceptor%E2%80%99s-micro-Tunnel-Boring-Machine
Dude, what the hell BS are you trying to push? You get that their is a bore machine in action right at this moment
Mind you, why let reality in the way of your chance to spin bs.
[Please chill – Incognito]
Mod note
So can't point out when people tell porkies now? Is this a new rule?
Funny that you should ask. Commenting and replying without the anger and aggro aimed at another commenter is not a new rule. You may need to read the Rules (https://thestandard.org.nz/policy/#rules), as referred to in every Open Mike:
The Mods are tightening up on the rules of good behaviour in Election Year. This is not new either.
Does not good behaviour encompass not making shit about other peoples post, nor trying to discredit what they said by lying about what they posted?
Which happens to me a lot here, so some clarification on that would be nice.
You read the reply to your comment @ 1 and ask for clarification, if necessary, without the anger and aggro aimed at another commenter. When in doubt it is usually better not to assume anything and simply ask, IMO.
When replying, you address the content, e.g., the counter-argument (e.g. from joe90), without the anger and aggro aimed at another commenter (joe90, in this case).
For example, you said @ 1 that there is a TBM in Auckland.
Joe90 replied @ 1.1 that the large TBM (Alice) is gone and that there now is a micro-TBM in Auckland (Domenica) although he did not clarify that this might be too small for the large-scale project in your YT clip @ 1. You could have asked him, nicely.
You responded @ 1.1.1 with the anger and aggro aimed at joe90 saying that there is a large TBM in Auckland (Dame Whina Cooper).
Joe90 replied @ 1.1.1.2 that the second large TBM (Dame Whina Cooper) completed its task in September 2022. He also queried about the feasibility of the project, which you had started the thread with @ 1, in Auckland.
I did not and still do not detect making up shit, discrediting, or lying by joe90. This seems to be your personal problem …
Any further questions?
Nope, you seemed to have made up your mind. So I'll avoid saying anything more.
Have a nice day.
The machine completed it's task in September 2022.
btw, do you really think the city that's spent sixty years bickering over public transport, seems incapable of providing cycling infrastructure, and can't manage it's surface water could organise, let alone complete, a project on the scale you're advocating?
Contact Energy..Aurora..and whoever allowed the fucking consent for this travesty… should be ashamed. Of course they wont be. We will have to do it for them. OUR clean renewable Power should not be used for this shit.
I had put this comment earlier.. # 3
.https://thestandard.org.nz/the-smartest-guys-in-the-room/#comment-1928089
I really hope there are some hard looks at them…
I don't like to be the bearer of bad news, but a tropical cyclone is expected to form in the Coral Sea in the coming days. It is expected to move south-east and, on current models, will hit the North Island early in the week starting Mon.13th. TCs tend not to follow the more stable pattern of mid-latitude depressions so there is always a chance it will change direction. If it doesn't, we are in for weather that could be worse that what we have already experienced:
https://www.windy.com/?2023021406,-28.941,161.147,5
Somebody tell Mayor Brown.
"Somebody tell Mayor Brown.
"
Anybody got his email address or text number?
0800f***wit should be his number, but doubt he'll answer for anyone percieved as a drongo.
Use his direct line to the tennis club.
Very apposite, Anne. I've been watching that low, forecast now to become a cat 3 cyclone as it meanders down the Coral Sea. I live on a boat in southern Queensland, so am always checking on nasty summer weather, also because my partner and I supposedly fly into Auckland on the 18th Feb and still haven't yet heard from the cheapish and cheerfullish car hire company in Mangere whether the vehicle we had booked hadn't actually floated into the Manukau. Rangi seems to have been reserving his voluminous, climate change enhanced, La Nina enhanced, buckets of tears for the northern part of NZ this summer and not SE Queensland, NE NSW, Vanuatu or Fiji. Mind you, it's only early Feb still, so 2 months to the end of the cyclone season.
Seems like being UK Prime Minister is just an interim step to lucrative speaking engagements, not an actual job as such.
The return from the dead of the delusional Liz Truss…
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/feb/04/liz-truss-expected-political-comeback-sunday
When a silly idea is long-exhausted and discredited, its protagonists don't quietly disappear. They go slowly mad. Roger Douglas's book Unfinished Business is a particularly fine example of this genre.
There was the option of working for a think tank using a pseudonym. And allow others to cite her as a martyr for a cause, that shall carry on. A politically dead prophet of mammon, as it were. If it is truly of mammon, then the proponents of greed as the organising force of economic society will say her time was that Camelot whose dream did not and will not die.
Shameless, or stupid.
https://twitter.com/SangitaMyska/status/1621982921086083076
Quite the club.
https://twitter.com/sanditoksvig/status/1621492613688791040
The Vatican?
The Vatican (City) State is top down ruled, they just have a vote for who leads (those who can vote being chosen by former leaders, or the current office holder). It was carved out of Rome, the capital of Italy, to separate the nation state from the HQ of a worldwide church religion.
The church promotes "subsidiarity" (faith based community service delivery) to nation states, so that there can be a "worldwide/catholic" faith culture.
So contary to what the tweet above contends there are more than two states – and yes the Vatican is considered to be a state – in which the state religion automatically get seats in its governance. There is in fact at least three!
Ah, religion and politics and politicians. Of course the best in the world are Americans. A video out today:
"Luxuriating in bigotry."
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/uk/300799921/liz-truss-i-was-brought-down-by-the-leftwing-economic-establishment
That almost sounds like admitting dropping the ball …
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300795389/wayne-brown-announces-independent-review-into-flood-response-but-denies-any-wrong
Are you recommending Wayne Brown for 10 Downing Street?
If so, someone needs to send The Times a copy of a New Zealand slang dictionary…
I'm sorry, did she say “left wing economic establishment” ?
Hahaha 🤣
Oh yes, those bloody fleet street socialist lefty bankers!! It was them what done it.
Then again, when you’re economically as right wing as Truss I suppose she’d consider Margaret Thatcher a socialist
can’t see why this got caught in the filter, please check your email spelling ta.
Because he didn’t use his approved user name.
my memory for those details is a bit stretched at the moment and there's a limit to what I'm going to look up on a public holiday 😉 (nice that there's no dramas to be moderating!)
Fair enough.
I don’t rely on my memory and always check things out, if I have the time and otherwise it just has to wait – similar to Wayne Brown waiting for the full picture to come in before he acts
There are a couple of commenters that I’m keeping a closer eye on but otherwise it has indeed been relatively quiet on the moderation front. It won’t stay like this though …