web analytics

Open Mike 17/06/2018

Written By: - Date published: 6:00 am, June 17th, 2018 - 69 comments
Categories: open mike - Tags:

Open mike is your post.

For announcements, general discussion, whatever you choose. The usual rules of good behaviour apply (see the Policy).

Step up to the mike …

69 comments on “Open Mike 17/06/2018 ”

  1. AsleepWhileWalking 1

    Awapuni (racetrack, Palmerston North) yesterday jockey Aaron Kuru became a legend. He fell
    off the horse which had itself fallen with its belly on the ground, gets his leg back up and into the saddle to win the race.

    Best view of fall at the end of video 6:28 onwards


    • Graeme 1.1

      Don’t know if that was a good display of horsemanship on Aaron Kuru’s part or a good display of ridership on the horse’s part.

      I’m sure he’s thinking “Get back on here ya muppet, we’ve got a race to win…”

    • saveNZ 1.2

      Amazing jockey and incredible determination from the horse too, that horse wasn’t giving up that race!!!

    • Robert Guyton 1.3

      I musta been looking at a different race!

  2. AsleepWhileWalking 2

    More elder abuse, this time its a Four Corners investigation into Aveo retirement villages.


    Same issues we have here with exploitative service agreements, restriction of sale of property. Also includes deliberate manipulation by Aveo to portray a resident as having dementia, falsely accusing her of indecent exposure and urination in order to justify her eviction. (Churn of residents makes more money).

    • saveNZ 2.1

      Another great link AsleepWhileWalking, on a topical subject that in NZ we don’t seem to want to address, aka retirement village exploitation!

      • JanM 2.1.1

        We have a disgraceful society that freely allows the legitimisation of profitable gain from both early childhood care and education and aged care. We need to hang our heads in shame

        • Ed

          Yes, NZ since has been designed by its traitorous 5th column in politics, business and the media as a haven for global plutocracy and kleptocracy.

      • patricia bremner 2.1.2

        Some villages are OK. The Waihi retirement village has very reasonable fees.
        That was 10 years ago mind you.

      • starboard 2.1.3

        AsleepWhileWalking..sounds like Kelvin Davis, infact most of your front bench.

    • Venezia 2.2

      Don’t have time to watch this to end, but think it was made last year. I have seen it before. While there are some differences in Australian situation, there are also many similar problems for those elderly who buy into these exploitative contracts in NZ. Privatising most aged care was the worst policy decision ever for NZ.
      I have personal experience with my Mother, who signed up to a great Trust run village, until 2 years later, a predatory company bought out half, got rid of existing staff, raised fees by $ 16.5000 per year, imposed extra charges for everyday needs & it became a nightmare. Legally she had no rights whatsoever to challenge the new owners conditions. I’m afraid to say that lawyers are hand in glove with owners in this predatory industry. The contracts are very one-sided.

  3. Jenny 3

    Is climate change a component in Kauri Dieback disease?

    The increasing death of monumental long lived trees around the globe, some that have lived for hundreds of years, has been linked to the added stress that climate change imposes on very large trees.

    Trees That Have Lived for Millennia Are Suddenly Dying
    The oldest baobabs are collapsing, and there’s only one likely explanation.

    It’s not just the baobabs, either. Around the world, the creaking deaths of ancient trees are testifying to the period of extraordinary environmental change that we are living through. “In Wyoming, Idaho, and Montana, I’ve come across whole forests of trees that have died since 2001,” says Wise. “While they are not as old as the baobabs, they are 400 to 500 years old. The die-off has other immediate causes, like insects, but a 500-year-old tree has experienced a lot of insect outbreaks and lived through them. Something is pushing them over the brink this time around.

    The Atlantic – June 11, 2018

    • Jenny 3.1

      Good bye Big Trees

      From Wikipedia:

      The microorganism seems to have existed in New Zealand for centuries, possibly predating human arrival, and has only recently become a danger to kauri……

      ……Phytophthora zoospores are motile and can migrate by themselves through waterlogged soil at speeds of up to 70 centimetres per hour.[8] Since wet soil is essential for Phytophthora to spread, periods of summer drought can delay spread of the disease, and even lead to some degree of recovery in infected trees. Conversely, a particularly wet summer can exacerbate the spread as there is no recovery period before the next winter…..

      ……While feral pigs have been blamed for the spread of Kauri dieback [9] due to their tendency to gnaw on the roots of Kauri trees, more recent research suggests pigs are only a minor vector for the spread of the disease.[10] Consensus among experts is that the predominant vector for spread of the disease is human activity, though this has not been definitively proven….

      …..there is as yet no established treatment for infected trees, with the large size of mature Kauri trees and the remote location of many infected areas making any treatment challenging.

      Kauri Dieback

      • Jenny 3.1.1

        One of the first great rules of terrestrial biology is that no species is forever. The Earth has gone through five major extinction events before—from the Ordovician-Silurian, about 350 million years ago, to the Cretaceous-Paleogene, 65 million years back. The likely causes included volcanism, gamma ray bursts, and, in the case of the Cretaceous-Paleogene wipeout, an asteroid strike—the one that killed the dinosaurs. But the result of all of the extinctions was the same: death, a lot of it, for 70% to 90% of all species, depending on the event.

        As increasingly accepted theories have argued—and as the Science papers show—we are now in the midst of the sixth great extinction, the unsettlingly-named Anthropocene, or the age of the humans.

        The numbers are sobering: Over all, there has been a human-driven decline in the populations of all species by 25% over the past 500 years, but not all groups have suffered equally. Up to a third of all species of vertebrates are now considered threatened, as are 45% of most species of invertebrates. Among the vertebrates, amphibians are getting clobbered, with 41% of species in trouble, compared to just 17% of birds—at least so far. The various orders of insects suffer differently too: 35% of Lepidopteran species are in decline (goodbye butterflies), which sounds bad enough, but it’s nothing compared to the similar struggles of nearly 100% of Orthoptera species (crickets, grasshoppers and katydids, look your last).

        The Sixth Great Extinction

        Time – April 24, 2017

        As a friend of mine likes to say, “And don’t think that humanity is not on this list as well.”

        To which I would add; The species you save could be your own.

    • AsleepWhileWalking 3.2

      Entire forests? It must be accelerating.

      I understood that one component of the tree issue was the loss of ozone causing foliage to shrivel and die. Can’t handle the added UV exposure.

      One of the channels I listen to on occasion predicted massive amounts of trees would fall over as the soil loses its nutrients and roots became too weak to support the tree. Hard to believe because even dead trees can stand, but at this point in our climate catastrophe anything is possible.

  4. worried for your (grand)kids? 4

    This might not get picked up by our media. New OECD report provides new evidence on social mobility in the context of increased inequalities of income and opportunities. http://www.oecd.org/social/broken-elevator-how-to-promote-social-mobility-9789264301085-en.htm
    Social mobility is so frozen that it would take four generations for a poorer family in NZ to reach the mean income.
    Is this proof that if we work hard enough we can still get ahead in NZ?

    • Interesting stuff, @ worried for your (grand)kids? ,…

      I notice that the least affected are Denmark , Finland , Norway and Sweden,…

      Of which the list reads:


      Denmark = 2 generations

      Finland = 3 generations

      Norway = 3 generations

      Sweden = 3 generations

      Whereas NZ , Australia, =4 generations

      And the UK , USA = 5 generations



      Now. The point of all this is to put paid to all the far right wingers who have for years tried to use Venezuela as the bogeyman on which to build their whole false premises surrounding their narrative about Socialism.

      And that includes the type of successful economic / political system we had prior to Roger Douglas and his treasonous neo liberalism . In fact – irrespective of the weak apologist neo liberals who try to say ‘the Scandinavians are no longer truly ‘Socialist’, – all this demonstrates is the complete failures of neo liberal ideology and those exponents of it in a very stark manner.

      Thank you for that interesting data , worried for your (grand)kids?.

    • Draco T Bastard 4.2

      Action needed to tackle stalled social mobility

      And the action needed is to drop the rich down into poverty.

  5. The Liberal Agenda – free Julian Assange – Tue 19 June, Wellington …

  6. mary_a 6

    Does anyone know how Penny Bright is doing after her cancer diagnoses? Penny has always come across as a woman of strong principles, regardless of whether agreeing with her or not.

    Kia Kaha Penny.

  7. Fireblade 7

    Will there be a press statement when the PM goes into Labor or will it be announced after the babies born?

    It’s a bit hush hush at the moment, but I understand several events have been planned to celerbrate the birth.

    There will be a fireworks display at the Sky Tower which will be televised live, with quest presenter Helen Clark. The All Blacks are planning a special Haka for next weekend. Trevor has written a special prayer for Parliament next week. TVNZ are having a baby bootie knitting competition and the winner will get to present the booties to the PM and kiss the baby live on TV.

    During this time, National Party members and supports may enjoy staying at an exclusive underground bunker facility hosted by John Key. (Note: A minimal charge of $5000.00 per hour will apply)

    It’s so exciting!

    • Except for two National party MP’s who will be spending their time preparing for a day or two in court…. and their two other crony’s who they embedded in our govt depts.

      When the baby arrives the clock starts ticking for them.

      And that IS exciting!

    • alwyn 7.2

      Are they going to declare it as a National Holiday?
      After all, we have one on 25 December to celebrate the birthday of someone who is not nearly so important in the history of Mankind.

    • One Two 7.3

      Why is it ‘so exciting’?

      • Stuart Munro 7.3.1

        Apart from reptilians like Key, Gnat MPs tend to reproduce asexually by budding, or regrow from severed tentacles or pseudopods. This is a refreshing change, and hopefully indicates a move away from the ectotherms that dominated the previous administration.

        • Alan

          too many afternoon gins SM?

          • Stuart Munro

            Bit early for me mate.

            Behave in an inhuman fashion & folk are going to start checking your pulse.

            • Pataua4life

              Has someone checked yours lately?

              • Stuart Munro

                Recently enough.

                But then I haven’t looted public assets, conspired with foreign insurers to disadvantage NZ homeowners, brought in illegal migrant workers, lied about P contamination to improperly obtain housing corp houses and so forth.

                • You tell em Stuart !

                  Either that of furnish them with a first year biology paper for a Dip Sc.

                  … ” too many afternoon gins SM? ”…

                  Knuckle dragger’s…

    • patricia bremner 7.4

      Fireblade , LOL LOL HEhehehe!! How about Dane? for a name?

      • alwyn 7.4.1

        I’m sure they wouldn’t deign to use a name like that.
        My money is on Cinderella Rockefeller.

  8. AsleepWhileWalking 8

    For someone in denial of the housing crisis this guy is a cool dude. What he says about Labour+National+Housing is interesting.

    I want every New Zealander to have their own home, their own lawn to mow, roof to paint and driveway to sweep. With that ownership, goals and dreams, comes a lot of pride and self-respect, and I believe that a lot of our drug, alcohol and family violence problems would disappear overnight, if we can just empower the people to realise their dream to have and own their own home we’d grow a nation of proud people, not people looking to self-medicate because they are drowning in unrealised potential.


    • AsleepWhileWalking 8.1

      Best bit He’s willing to stake his reputation on solving the crisis – and will happily stake his own hard-earned reserves on it.

      “If the Government won’t help the community achieve this, then I’ll roll my sleeves up and pay for and do the job myself.”

      • WILD KATIPO 8.1.1

        The man has the right attitude.

        You get prosperity running in the community and you get an empowered community.

        But then,… those that for 3 decades have held onto power in NZ may just not want an empowered community… they might start asking some very pertinent questions as to where all the community wealth has gone…

        • babayaga

          An interesting remark, considering Garry has achieved what he has because of the opportunities available to him over that same 3 decades. Also interesting is his hat tip to one Mr Bob Jones. I bet that sticks in the craw of the odd leftie.

    • Draco T Bastard 8.2

      I want every New Zealander to have their own home, their own lawn to mow, roof to paint and driveway to sweep.

      But I don’t want a lawn to mow, a roof to paint or a driveway.

      not people looking to self-medicate because they are drowning in unrealised potential.

      And the reason why we have that is because millionaires create poverty and actively prevent people from reaching their full potential. They really couldn’t handle the competition.

  9. One Anonymous Bloke 9

    Police re-open Pike River investigation.

    What chance they’ll go after the deregulators?

    • By Joves, OAB,… this is magnificent,… inasmuch as it could possibly mean some closure from that horrific time regarding Police and their role – and that of those in charge of Pike River.

      It could mean those responsible are finally brought to answer , from the top to the bottom and just WHY Key and English were in such an obscene hurry to use Solid Energy as a tool to plug that shaft with meters of concrete to prevent any further forensic analysis from ever being carried out.

      It has been a gut wrenching for those family’s , being bullied by the govt , trespassed, threatened and warned off just days before the govt relented, and now we have this. However , it would also be a final disclosure of Pike Rivers former CEO , was also brought back to answer questions .

      And this time no amount of blood money payout agreements between his insurers and WORKSAFE NZ should be considered.

    • Ed 9.2

      Great news.
      Now for some charges to be made.
      And some extremely stiff sentences handed out.
      Sufficiently severe to act as a deterrent to future corporates and politicians to think twice.
      I expect to see Key in jail or in exile.

      • James 9.2.1

        “I expect to see Key in jail or in exile.”

        I expect as per normal you will be wrong.

  10. Tricledrown 10

    Remember buffhead Brownlee saying in the National govts first news conferences saying this companies management wouldn’t take short cuts with safety, because they had spent $335 million on this mine.
    Yet when you look at their sharemarket reports Pike River mining had a long history of not delivering and shortages of finances to make the mine pryofitable.

    • Yes,… much like the company that had interests in Pike River and ALSO had a mining disaster with 29 killed several months before the Pike River disaster in West Virginia ;

      Upper Big Branch Mine disaster – Wikipedia

      However , the way that disaster and the ensuing inquiry was handled was totally different to the way it was under John Key and Bill English ,… as you can see for yourselves right here :

      The Law Works Special – The Upper Big Branch Coal Mine … – YouTube
      Video for big branch mining disaster inquiry the law works special you tube▶ 55:48

  11. Naki man 11

    “I expect to see Key in jail or in exile.”

    Comedy gold

    reply to 9.2

    • Well ,… who knows?… we just might end up seeing him in court as well as the looming court case for two other National party MP’s in the near future…

      Never is wise to guffaw too loudly prematurely , esp when the Police are involved..

  12. Tricledrown 12

    dtb dropping the rich down into poverty they are already suffering from emotional and empathetic poverty .
    That’s communist totalitarianism your talking about DTB.
    Every revolution that has occured in the manner you described has meant more poverty for the poor as well.
    Besides no communist revolution has lasted longer than 60 years and has ended in a fuedal society the very thing you believe communism cures.

  13. eco maori 13

    The Am Show good morning Duncan you know that humans are the guardians of Papatuanuku So I say any human activity that causes the demise /extinction of a species is unacceptable your reason for the West Coast coalmine to go ahead is so we can create a few jobs most likely to go to foreign people as our kiwi workers that are qualified are working in Australia and its not likely that they are going to hire the common person with no qualification. Ka pai to the Coalition Government for not granting a license to mine .
    Thats it the Pike river executive put profits over the safety of there workers lives .
    What other reason is there for them getting the mine blocked off with concrete to hide the bad evidence national covering there ass.
    Tauranga is a city flush with money and yet there way to solve the home less is to ban the home less people from being 5 mtr from a retail store why don’t they build home less shelters you know what happens when you hide a problem it festers and becomes a bigger problem.
    Duncan why don’t you show this positive story that the Papatuanuku business conferdince in Aotearoas is high the NZ Stock Market is performing well nice positive story Know link below.


    I say this once again Nurses and Teachers who are predominantly ladys deserve a good pay rise the reason they did not try and get a pay rise from national is they new they would be wasting there time on the blue collar crowd. Ka kite ano

    • eco maori 13.1

      The Am show Azzes there you go the national trolls are out and about I see them in your polls the comments on storys on Stuff website on The Herald you know that natianol got 2x the donations of labour and the young national party role is in sharp decline they stacked seenothing danceing with the stars rating for him with these full time payed trolls.
      With babys I have 13 mokopunas they are all well cared for .The mother in most situations go to there mothers side of the whano to learn how to care for the mokopunas its a big learning curve so when our daughters are in need of help we are there for them and our mokopunas. ka kite ano P.S artificial intelligence is something we don’t want the war mongers to get the dumb ass hands on fullstop

  14. eco maori 14

    Here we go Nick Hager has made the sandflys accountable for there unjustified actions against him and they are going to have to pay him compansation for there breach to his human rights ECT.
    The judge excuse for signing the stupid warrants was that know one told him guessing the judge was a man that Nick Hager was a journalist YEAR RIGHT or that the sandflys were trying to find Nicks confidential information source well the last statement is believable.
    You see they break all the rules and lie there ass off or any other way they can get out of the shit so they don’t get burned the link is Below. Ka kite ano

    Hager triumphs as police capitulate
    Jun 12 2018

  15. eco maori 15

    Good evening NewsHub Ruamoko has been going hard in Japan Eco Maori sends his condolences to te tangata of Japan .
    You see I said that Winston will have a safe pair of hands when Jacinda has her maternity leave of six weeks he is well educated in the running of Government.
    That was cooling towers for coal power electricity in California been demolished many thanks to them they also have laws than any new building or housing has to have solar power ka pai .
    That was the correct move by Rugby bosses to cancel the red card dished out to the French player Benjamin. There was no mention of the All-blacks French test on The Guardian web site ???????????
    To Eco Maori it looks like the Papatuanuku MSM are Trolling Elon Mus with as much negative storys they can dredge/ dream up muppets.
    Ka kite ano

Recent Comments

Recent Posts

  • Twenty highlights of 2020
    As we welcome in the new year, our focus is on continuing to keep New Zealanders safe and moving forward with our economic recovery. There’s a lot to get on with, but before we say a final goodbye to 2020, here’s a quick look back at some of the milestones ...
    3 weeks ago

  • Jobs for Nature funding will create training and employment opportunities
    A major investment to tackle wilding pines in Mt Richmond will create jobs and help protect the area’s unique ecosystems, Biosecurity Minister Damien O’Connor says. The Mt Richmond Forest Park has unique ecosystems developed on mineral-rich geology, including taonga plant species found nowhere else in the country. “These special plant ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    18 hours ago
  • Pre-departure testing extended to all passengers to New Zealand
    To further protect New Zealand from COVID-19, the Government is extending pre-departure testing to all passengers to New Zealand except from Australia, Antarctica and most Pacific Islands, COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins said today. “The change will come into force for all flights arriving in New Zealand after 11:59pm (NZT) on Monday ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    23 hours ago
  • Bay Cadets learn skills to protect environment
    Bay Conservation Cadets launched with first intake Supported with $3.5 million grant Part of $1.245b Jobs for Nature programme to accelerate recover from Covid Cadets will learn skills to protect and enhance environment Environment Minister David Parker today welcomed the first intake of cadets at the launch of the Bay ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Cook Islanders to resume travel to New Zealand
    The Prime Minister of New Zealand Jacinda Ardern and the Prime Minister of the Cook Islands Mark Brown have announced passengers from the Cook Islands can resume quarantine-free travel into New Zealand from 21 January, enabling access to essential services such as health. “Following confirmation of the Cook Islands’ COVID ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Supporting communities and landowners to grow employment opportunities
    Jobs for Nature funding is being made available to conservation groups and landowners to employ staff and contractors in a move aimed at boosting local biodiversity-focused projects, Conservation Minister Kiritapu Allan has announced. It is estimated some 400-plus jobs will be created with employment opportunities in ecology, restoration, trapping, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Border exception for some returning international tertiary students
    The Government has approved an exception class for 1000 international tertiary students, degree level and above, who began their study in New Zealand but were caught offshore when border restrictions began. The exception will allow students to return to New Zealand in stages from April 2021. “Our top priority continues ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • Tiwai deal gives time for managed transition
    Today’s deal between Meridian and Rio Tinto for the Tiwai smelter to remain open another four years provides time for a managed transition for Southland. “The deal provides welcome certainty to the Southland community by protecting jobs and incomes as the region plans for the future. The Government is committed ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 days ago
  • New member for APEC Business Advisory Council
    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has appointed Anna Curzon to the APEC Business Advisory Council (ABAC). The leader of each APEC economy appoints three private sector representatives to ABAC. ABAC provides advice to leaders annually on business priorities. “ABAC helps ensure that APEC’s work programme is informed by business community perspectives ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Govt’s careful economic management recognised
    The Government’s prudent fiscal management and strong policy programme in the face of the COVID-19 global pandemic have been acknowledged by the credit rating agency Fitch. Fitch has today affirmed New Zealand’s local currency rating at AA+ with a stable outlook and foreign currency rating at AA with a positive ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago
  • Additional actions to keep COVID-19 out of NZ
    The Government is putting in place a suite of additional actions to protect New Zealand from COVID-19, including new emerging variants, COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins said today. “Given the high rates of infection in many countries and evidence of the global spread of more transmissible variants, it’s clear that ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago
  • 19 projects will clean up and protect waterways
    $36 million of Government funding alongside councils and others for 19 projects Investment will clean up and protect waterways and create local jobs Boots on the ground expected in Q2 of 2021 Funding part of the Jobs for Nature policy package A package of 19 projects will help clean up ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • New Zealand Government acknowledges 175th anniversary of Battle of Ruapekapeka
    The commemoration of the 175th anniversary of the Battle of Ruapekapeka represents an opportunity for all New Zealanders to reflect on the role these conflicts have had in creating our modern nation, says Associate Minister for Arts, Culture and Heritage Kiri Allan. “The Battle at Te Ruapekapeka Pā, which took ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Better care for babies with tongue-tie
    Babies born with tongue-tie will be assessed and treated consistently under new guidelines released by the Ministry of Health, Associate Minister of Health Dr Ayesha Verrall announced today. Around 5% to 10% of babies are born with a tongue-tie, or ankyloglossia, in New Zealand each year. At least half can ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Prisoner disorder event at Waikeria Prison over
    The prisoner disorder event at Waikeria Prison is over, with all remaining prisoners now safely and securely detained, Corrections Minister Kelvin Davis says. The majority of those involved in the event are members of the Mongols and Comancheros. Five of the men are deportees from Australia, with three subject to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • Pre-departure COVID-19 test for travellers from the UK and the US from 15 January
    Travellers from the United Kingdom or the United States bound for New Zealand will be required to get a negative test result for COVID-19 before departing, and work is underway to extend the requirement to other long haul flights to New Zealand, COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins confirmed today. “The new PCR test requirement, foreshadowed last ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 weeks ago
  • PM congratulates New Year Honour recipients
    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has added her warm congratulations to the New Zealanders recognised for their contributions to their communities and the country in the New Year 2021 Honours List. “The past year has been one that few of us could have imagined. In spite of all the things that ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 weeks ago
  • David Parker congratulates New Year 2021 Honours recipients
    Attorney-General and Minister for the Environment David Parker has congratulated two retired judges who have had their contributions to the country and their communities recognised in the New Year 2021 Honours list. The Hon Tony Randerson QC has been appointed a Companion of the New Zealand Order of Merit for ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 weeks ago