What will be the response of political leaders around the world, and our leaders here, to Obama’s speech?
Will John Key issue a statement in response?
Unlikely
How about David Shearer?
Also unlikely
What about the Greens?
Will the Green Party issue a statement calling on the other two to give a response and make a stand?
Will Obama’s speech be just like a pebble dropped into the ocean, unremarked in this country and around the world?
In the face of this existential threat like no other ever faced by humanity, will business as usual be the unspoken commitment that we will receive from our leaders?
What will be the response of political leaders around the world, and our leaders here, to Obama’s speech?
MEMO JENNY:
Barack Obama is not taken seriously by anyone. He did nothing at all during his first term except spout rhetoric (that impressed Jim Mora at least) but he was too timid or too compromised or too indolent to actually DO anything, whether it was about conservation, or justice in the middle east, or anything at all. Now, barely six months into his second term, this ineffectual and empty poseur is already a lame duck.
Why are you urging people to flog this dead horse?
Not sure exactly what you were expecting Obama to achieve when he was saddled with an incredibly partisan and frankly insane republican majority in the house.
Also he did get the health reforms through – a shadow of what they needed to be, but an achievement none-the-less.
On May 9 2012 in an ABC interview Obama said “…I think same-sex couples should be able to get married.” This reverberated around the world. The gay marriage movement in this country had been bubbling along gaining litle traction until then, Obama’s comments made a huge impact here – Bob McCroskie launched his anti-gay marriage a month later, and the entire thing was done and dusted here within eleven months of Obama’s comments. Since then I think eight or so countries have legalised gay marriage and it has become a major issue again in many others.
So it is total hogwash no one takes seriously the US President in general or Obama in particular. Just because you don’t like him doesn’t mean he isn’t important. People take him seriously all over the world, even his corrupt congress does – it just spends it time opposing him, that is all.
What ever you think of President Obama, muzza, and Morrissey, (and from your comments, it doesn’t sound like much). President Obama has made a statement strongly supporting doing something about climate change and encouraging others around the world to rise to the challenge also.
Muzza/Morrissey I think you are both missing the point I was making. (and I suspect deliberately)
Will Obama’s challenge be ignored by our political leaders here?
Will they, (and I mean any of them) even acknowledge Obama’s speech?
Will any of them, and I mean any of them, come out in support of Obama and suggest that we need to go even go further?
Or are they still determined to continue on as if they can afford to ignore this issue?
And lastly, muzza and Morrissey, is your attack on Obama’s credibility just an excuse to provide political cover for those parties here who wish to do nothing?
Voter support for Labour and its leader, David Shearer, has slumped in the latest Herald-DigiPoll survey. Audrey Young in the Hersld today.
The party has lost 5.5 percentage points since March, and Mr Shearer is down 6.1 points as preferred Prime Minister.
National’s support has barely moved and it is still polling high at 48.8 per cent of decided voters.
Prime Minister John Key is preferred Prime Minister for 65.2 per cent, up 2.6 points on his last rating.
If the poll were translated to votes, National would not be able to govern alone.
Either National or Labour would be able to form a government.
But Labour would need four other parties, and National would have more options including being able to form a government with only New Zealand First support, only Maori Party support, or support from Act and United Future.
Mr Shearer has been Labour leader for a little over 18 months, after beating former finance spokesman David Cunliffe in a contest involving the party membership.
Today’s poll could put added pressure on Mr Shearer’s leadership, which has been attracting stronger criticism lately from the remnants of Mr Cunliffe’s support on the left than from the right.
Mr Key has taken to taunting Mr Shearer in Parliament about being under the control of deputy leader Grant Robertson.
But more voters see Mr Cunliffe as a successor should Mr Shearer no longer be in contention.
Asked who would be best to replace Mr Shearer if he left politics, 31.8 per cent supported Mr Cunliffe and 16.7 per cent Mr Robertson.
The dark horse is Andrew Little, a first-term list MP and former national secretary of the Engineering, Printing and Manufacturing Union, who had 13.5 per cent support as a possible replacement.
Eleven per cent wanted someone else and 27 per cent did not know or refused to say.
Among Labour supporters, 37.7 per cent supported Mr Cunliffe if Mr Shearer weren’t there, 19 per cent Mr Robertson and 14 per cent Mr Little.
Labour’s party vote support appears to have gone to New Zealand First and the Greens.
New Zealand First’s support rose above the 5 per cent threshold, and support for Winston Peters as preferred Prime Minister is up from 4 per cent to 6.4 per cent.
Party vote figures in the poll are: National 48.8 (up 0.3), Labour 30.9 (down 5.5), Greens 10.5 (up 1.5), NZ First 5.1 (up 2.6), Maori Party 1.8 (up 0.7), Mana 0.5 (no change), United Future 0.3 (up 0.3) and Act 0.2 (up 0.1). The Conservatives gained 2.65 per cent of the vote at the last election but no MPs polled 1.5 (up 0.2).
Support for Mr Shearer rose in March to 18.5 per cent when National was mired in issues such as the failure of the Novopay pay system for teachers, the Solid Energy crisis and the partial sale of Mighty River Power.
Since the last poll, the Government has lost list MP Aaron Gilmore and passed its Budget, but a lot of the political focus since then has been on United Future leader Peter Dunne.
Mr Dunne resigned as a minister as the chief suspect in the leak of a confidential report.
Party vote results and preferred Prime Minister results are of decided voters only.
On the party vote questions, 11.9 per cent of poll respondents were undecided.
NZ First ratings edge up
The biggest movements in the latest Herald-DigiPoll survey are among older voters. And it appears New Zealand First has had a boost at the expense of Labour.
Overall, Labour has fallen from 36.5 per cent in the March poll to 30.9 per cent in the June poll published today. NZ First has risen from 2.5 per cent in March to 5.1 per cent now, based on the poll of 750 respondents.
Labour has gone from having a high level of support among the 65 and over voters in March – 40.5 per cent compared to its overall party vote of 36.1 per cent – to just 28.2 per cent.
Among the younger age group, 18 to 39, the Green Party has disproportionate support, but that is evident in most polls.
Last time 54.8 per cent of men supported National and 42.4 per cent of women, compared to 48.5 per cent overall. This time 49.9 per cent of men and 47.7 per cent of women supported National, which has 48.8 per cent overall.
As preferred Prime Minister, David Shearer is supported by 12.4 per cent overall but by 15.2 per cent of women and 9.6 per cent of men. In March he had 18.5 per cent and even support from men and women.
John Key is on 65.2 per cent and has almost even support of men and women.
Herald-Digipoll
Party vote
• National – 48.8% (up 0.3)
• Labour – 30.9% (down 5.5)
Preferred PM
• John Key – 65.2% (up 2.6)
• David Shearer – 12.4% (down 6.1)
Maybe Shearer should listen to President Obama and pull his head out of the Sand over climate change. Shearer needs to heed Obama’s call for other nations to play their part, and publicly announce that an incoming Labour administration will stop all new coal projects, and all other extreme hydrocarbon extraction plans like fracking and deep sea oil.
As for the Nacts. They need to be strongly condemned in every forum, for being as Obama says only concerned for the concerns of special interests.
Maybe then Shearer might be recognised as a leader.
Until then, Shearer and the party he leads will remain unrecognised unknown, and in the public mind sullenly silent and negative.
If this doesn’t spell out clearly to Shearer supporters that we have a serious problem then nothing will. (Well maybe a bad result in Ikaroa Rawhiti will compound).
Changes need to be made, perhaps some more deadwood need to be sent packing at the same time as Shearer loses his Leadership. It is not too late. There is NO WAY Shearer has what it takes to roll Key in 2014 (Currently there is a huge VOID in leadership in Labour), Shearer supporters need to swallow their pride and give Cunliffe a chance.
To work this needs to be driven by Shearer and Robertson factions…..if they have the maturity and foresight to do this then Labour has a chance of winning in 2014, otherwise roll on 2017, 3 more years of New Zealand moving towards the extreme Right.
For the long term health of the Labour party, National needs to win the next election.
That way Mallard , King, Goff and the rest of the bludging relics can be given the boot and replaced with fresh faces.
Shearer winning the next election would be the end of Labour.
yes but this National party is hopeless, if it wasn’t for Chch, the economy would have tanked.
I agree that some of the deadwood needs to be cleaned out, but unlike some on TS I actually quite like Labour’s Policies, the problem is the Leadership…its non existent and it has a complete inability to sell itself.
THIS IS FAR AND AWAY LABOURS BIGGEST ISSUE AND IT NEEDS TO BE SORTED.
Sadly Mallard has no where to go so will go no where, if he had any honor he would have quit after managing Labours worst election result in recent history. He cuts a sad old grumpy figure from the second row, grasping at past glories and taking up space that should be filled with newer blood. A more accurate example of ‘deadwood’ is hard to find.
I agree that Labour winning 2014 is more likely to do the party harm than help them, at least under Shearer’s leadership (and the team that put him there).
But the left will keep on trucking, even if Labour falls behind.
The problem with labour is a lot more than just Shearer,
No direction. stuck in the dark ages. Borrow and spend policies. Playing second fiddle to the Greens. In bed with the unions.
Some of those you might think are OK (like the union bit) – but you forget that people outside of your core voters dont like them – and dont want NZ run by a party with its stings pulled by unions.
Upshot – The general man in the street dosnt like Labour or what it seems to stand for these days.
And this is reflected in the polls. Its not just the man in front (even the best salesman has trouble shifting a fundamentally broken product)
I know that you will disagree. That’s OK – keep relying on – its a rouge, biased because only calling land lines, if you look at the trends … blagh blagh blagh. you all know better – Im a tit as I dont agree with you etc. You know the usual excuses you come up with on other threads.
Labour is a conflicted party, still wounded by neo liberalism. Even a return to Norm Kirk style policies would make the LP look like revolutionaries. Green and Mana are the future for the parliamentary left unless the LP has a few retirements v.soon.
Social democracy is enough of a dead end ideology anyway without the bumbling equivocation of David Shearer.
Yes we all know you find unionism heretical James. On a par with the witches of Salem blah blah blah.
Beats me how any rational person can endorse lawful free association in service of shared common interest in all other areas of our nation’s existence, yet carp on like a psychotic Alf Garnett when the same is engaged by workers in their shared common interest.
It is you who lives in the dark ages James and whine as you might, it will take more than an obsessive union-hater to take us back there. Yes, we know the World is flat. And if it’s not it bloody well should be !
You can’t see or hear your irrelevant ranting James. Everyone else (emabarrassed for you) can. Grow up !
New Plymouth is lost to Labor. Cuddling up to Greens in energy land while parachuting Andrew “do a runner” Little as candidate for last election both bad mistakes and will not be forgotten.
The Labour Party did not benefit from attending your Auckland BBQs in the past. Cheap sausages and good champagne should not be mixed.
It is time for Labour to close ranks againt those who want Key to continue in power, e.g. Hooton, Armstrong and Sullivan.
LEC’s and Branches and Union meetings are the place for discusion on the party’s direction.
Come on Hooton, do you honestly expect that people believe your tripe that your band of merry men and women did their utmost to support Shearer for the good of the Labour party?
Jesus wept. If you expect people to swallow that one I’ve got an igloo to sell you next to your Dear Leader’s house in Hawaii..
Well given that a week ago he was insisting that he never had anything to do with Shearer, I think it’s safe to say no; he doesn’t “honestly” expect anything.
Being either invisible or just slinging shit impresses no one.
Shearer isn’t a prime ministers arsehole, it’s about time he realizes that and steps down.
You keep believing that.
The only time I see Shearer on TV is when he’s all worked up and telling every one what a crappy job John Key and National are doing.
Needs too be a lot more positive, you’ll never win being a divisive moaning wanker.
I think Slinging Shit has been the only strategy that Labour have had since Key got in. Following on from these stirling results it has got them nowhere.
However the sun will rise tomorrow and that will be followed by yet another TS post outlining Key as a failure and a liar. So much for the idea that repeating the same behaviour and expecting a different result is a sure fire sign of ……oh wait…..
Labour has no idea why its poll performance has been so mediocre. Until it does, playing another round of musical chairs with the leadership is pointless. New captain same sinking ship? Thatll be the second half of Hootens dream come true. Clue – NZ Power should have been just the start, and backing the Greens on some economic and monetary alternatives.
Stand unashamedly for the disadvantaged in society for godssakes, not try and find a “balance”.
Just to pull a name out of the hat, anyone spotted Maryan Street lately? You know, opposing the gutting of the RMA, mining, and the attacks on Auckland by her opposite in government Nick Smith? No, didn’t think so. She is quite useless, and clearly lazy to boot. Still, she is an ex-NZLP bureaucrat and a lesbian woman so that makes her a paid up member of the self-absorbed Labour Wellington political class, which makes her utter uselessness all right I suppose.
If you are beltway senior labour right-wing MP you earn a fat six figure salary to work just as hard as you feel like, you are broadly in agreement with 90% of the governments agenda and 30% in the polls guarantees you and the rest of your faction in control of the parliamentary wing a job for life.
Working hard, and selecting a winning and articulate leadership that gets you over over 40% in the polls just means they newly independent and feisty members might send a whole bunch of n00bs to parliament who will challenge your factions superiority.
Noooooooo to that! It might an opposition MPs office, but it IS an office.
So – crisis? What crisis you talkin’ bout, Willis?
Still, she is an ex-NZLP bureaucrat and a lesbian woman so that makes her a paid up member of the self-absorbed Labour Wellington political class, which makes her utter uselessness all right I suppose.,/i>
What’s sexuality got do to with it?
In contrast, if a heterosexual is performing badly, why is their sexuality rarely mentioned?
it is a symbol of why the NZ public lost faith in the labour government: captured by (sexual) identity politics and nanny-ish interventions, they failed to address social inequality nor restrain the excesses of finance companies
No, the *NZ public* were tired of Labour’s (perceived) weird policies, being scolded by Sue Bradford, and Michael Cullen hoarding record govt revenues for a rainy day.
I agree that we forgot how bad National are at governing, but we also have never seen such an efficient marketing apparatus as the one around Key’s natty team, nor have we seen a PM of such charisma since David Lange
Yep Ropata you are on the money. The big issue with the finance industry debacle is that no matter how many people just laugh it off, it has caused massive pain and taken a huge lump of private capital and wealth out of middle NZ. This is exactly the type of capital that we need to be invested in NZ businesses to allow them to grow and employ more.
Christ! – you and I have a very different definition of ‘charisma’. Never mind though – I suspect it’s me that’s out of tune with muddle Nu Zull.
I wonder how krismetic they think John Key is now though – if they weigh up all the lying and bs.
So Labour are still going to carry the millstones that are Shearer, Robertson, and Mallard into the next election. How many points does it take to drop before they have a clean out? 10? 20?
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Shearer has had his chance. Someone else needs to take the leadership. I was originally Team Cunliffe, and he’s still my preferred choice, but I’d accept Robertson, Little, even Goff at this stage.
Basically, yes. Although I think Cunliffe should probably be somewhere on the front bench instead of backbench Siberia.
However my fear is that Shearer says no change not because that’s what he wants, but because the entire senior team is truly compassless and has no idea what to do differently. Maybe give them another 6 months?
PS its a real easy formula for Labour to win, stand unashamedly for the disadvantaged and the struggling. And ditch some of the more onerous neo liberal and monetary constraints this nation is subservient to.
What you are really suggesting is that all Herald polls are shit and no-one should take the slightest notice of such rubbish,
The right in desperation at the true nature of National’s vote, in my opinion 42-43.5%, are now flogging NZFirst simply because no matter how thick they are they now realize they have no other option left to gain a third term in 2014…
The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell …
You have an opinion of the level of National’s support? Why didn’t you say so before? We can stop all this bothersome polling every three months and just ask bad12 what his or her opinion of the support of each party is. Actually, when you think about it, why bother with elections.
Wevvilybiscuit
Fancy you as opinionated as you are, castigating bad12 for that. I presume you don’t mean that we should step down in favour of bad12 as dictator. Though the opinions offered sound sound. Perhaps you haven’t any points to argue so are merely doing more of the s..t throwing that is the last resort of those facing being disproved.
lprent
When I submitted my last comment above I got the rolling ball showing that it was being processed and then I got the connection cut – service closed message on the site page. So I pressed back arrow and got back onto TS page, went to Home and updated page and found that my comment had gone through. This was a bit confusing though.
Also I notice a few duplicate comments going through. Usually if I mistakenly press twice I get a message advising that so don’t get that.
Nonsense. The fact that a couple of vague nods to social responsibility looks so “left” (to you and John Key) just shows how deeply stuck in the right wing status quo they are.
Also, voters don’t hate Labour. We’re just not interested in Labour because they offer nothing different, especially to those who most need something different.
The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 2.7.1.2.1.1
Well actually I didn’t say they aren’t “left enough”, I said they aren’t offering anything different. And I don’t think your idea of of “left” has much to do with my idea of “different”.
But seeing as you went there, Hone’s majority is more than 1000 votes. Over Labour.
The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell …
I don’t see why, North. Lots of people here seem to think Labour are so electorally unpopular because they are not left enough. But the parties to the left of them are even less popular, so that can’t be right.
Parties to the left of Labour are not unpopular with their growing constituency base GF; conflation methinks you display for one so ‘perceptive’. There is a grassroots movement underfoot, oh, that’s Right, you have not been following the increased surveillance debate…/
The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell …
Well, of course they are not unpopular with the people who support them, but that’s a bit of a shit argument. Kyle Chapman’s political movement is popular with the people who support it as well. Folk dancing is popular with the people who support that, as well. Doesn’t mean it is popular in the populace as a whole.
According to the Digipoll, Colin Craig’s bunch of fuck heads enjoy three times the level of support of the Mana Party.
Why anyone would give an iota of credence to a political poll conducted by or on behalf of the HERALD is beyond me,
There is only one remote possibility of Slippery the PM gaining a third term for this National Government and that is with the support of Winston’s NZFirst,
The wider press have for the past 5 years attempted to sway the electorate by ‘deliberately’ talking down the true % NZFirst enjoyed from the electorate, i used at the 2011 election a specific gambling/poll to correctly judge NZFirst’s support by simply monitoring the % over the months leading up to that election that that particular gambling/poll discounted the NZFirst % back down under the 5% every time that party attained the 5% over a number of months,
THEY are messing with your minds via their polls and i would suggest any left leaning voter who voted for Winston in 2011 seriously think about voting for another party…
its a real easy formula for Labour to win, stand unashamedly for the disadvantaged and the struggling. And ditch some of the more onerous neo liberal and monetary constraints this nation is subservient to.
or, you could be wrong and it puts them further down in the polls.
”We’re going to be doing exactly what we are doing now,” Shearer said when asked what difference the poll would make….
This shows his appalling lack of Leadership and disregard for the people that Labour represents, what he should have said is” …this is a worry, New Zealand has never had greater inequality and clearly we are not connecting with the people who need us. We will be doing everything we can do to change this.”
He’s useless, for the sake of the Left he has to let go of the Labour Leadership.
Hear that ducky, kingy, goffy and all you other has beens to comfy in the trough whilst ignoring the wishes of the rank and file.
It’s the sound of inevitability…….the train wreck is coming unless you hand over the controls and sit back quietly whilst the new blood wrests the agenda back and gets the disaffected third back in the polling booths.
Coal is going to be discouraged and many thermal plants shut down. Fracking and nuclear power encouraged. XL tar sands pipeline still a possibility if GHG effects are not “significant”.
See also….
No. 22 Mike Bush: “Bruce Hutton had integrity beyond reproach.”
No. 21 Tim Groser: “I think the relationship is genuinely in outstanding form.”
No. 20 John Key: “But if the question is do we use the United States or one of our other partners to circumvent New Zealand law then the answer is categorically no.”
No. 19 Matthew Hooton: “It is ridiculous to say that unions deliver higher wages! They DON’T!”
No. 18 Ant Strachan: “The All Blacks won the RWC 2011 because of outstanding defence!”
No. 17 Stephen Franks: “Peter has been such a level-headed, safe pair of hands.”
No. 16 Phil Kafcaloudes: “Tony Abbott…hasn’t made any mistakes over the past eighteen months.”
No. 15 Donald Rumsfeld: “I did not lie… Colin Powell did not lie.”
No. 14 Colin Powell: “a post-9/11 nexus between Iraq and terrorist organizations…connections are now emerging…”
No.13 Barack Obama: “Simply put, these strikes have saved lives.” http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-27052013/#comment-638881
No. 12 U.K. Ministry of Defence: “Protecting the Afghan civilian population is one of ISAF and the UK’s top priorities.”
No. 11 Brendan O’Connor: “Australia’s approach to refugees is compassionate and generous.”
No. 10 Boris Johnson: “Londoners have… the best police in the world to look after us and keep us safe.”
No. 9 NewstalkZB PR dept: “News you NEED! Fast, fair, accurate!”
No. 8 Simon Bridges: “I don’t mean to duck the question….”
No. 7 Nigel Morrison: “Quite frankly, they’ve been VERY tough.”
http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-15052013/#comment-633295
No. 6 NZ Herald PR dept: “Congratulations—you’re reading New Zealand’s best newspaper.”
No. 5 Rawdon Christie: “…a FORMIDABLE replacement, it seems, is Claudette Hauiti.” http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-13052013/#comment-632594
No. 4 Willie and J.T.: “The X-Factor. Nah, nah, there’s some GREAT talent there!”
No. 3 John Key: “Yeah we hold MPs to a higher standard.”
No. 2 Colin Craig: “Oh, I have a GREAT sense of humour.”
No. 1 Barack Obama: “Margaret Thatcher was one of the great champions of freedom and liberty.”
Funny but I dont see Ms Klarks name in the top 3 where she should be for (in any order you like) I believe Winston, I didnt notice we were speeding, I painted that.
She’s DavidC’s bogeyperson. The one who makes him wake up hot and wimpering in the night and Mummy runs and guides his little thumby into his frightened little mouthy. And one day he’ll grow up to be a fuckwit ! Poor thing. Always lagging a good 5 years behind everyone else. Though for such a littley he’s very knowledgable re The World’s Greatest Art Heists and the Kaikohe Demolition Derby.
felix.. maybe you slept thru it…
Ms Klark ruled over Hulungrad … 9 years marred by overspending and election bribes in a bumper time when something should have been left in the public purse..instead we got “I have spent the lot” and a broken trainset.
Funny but I dont see Ms Klarks name in the top 3 where she should be for (in any order you like) I believe Winston, I didnt notice we were speeding, I painted that.
She might well end up on the list, but not for the minor speeding thing or the Paintergate beat-up. It’s a measure of just how lacking in seriousness you are that those two trivialities are all you can think of to denigrate her.
Yes brazil 2014 will be an interesting media event, how many will venture from the sanctuary of the FIFA endorsed hospitality to see the real Brazil and how some new stadiums are in cities with no professional football club.
Watched the 2ecobars recently (excellent ESPN documentary)….no surprise that the head of FIFA is a brazilian with a rainforest full of skeletons.
I’m sure you are right that the media contingent will not venture out of the air conditioned suites, except for maybe a spot of police escorted danger tourism to a favela to show how daring they are. However, Brazil in 2014 is still a relatively understandable location. Qatar 2022, on the other hand …
btw, FIFA’s head is the odious Sepp Blatter, who is Swiss. You might have been thinking of the jackboot loving Joao Havelange, his predecessor. I think he still holds the somewhat ironic title of ‘honorary’ president, though.
Constitution Conversation –
Has there been one on The Standard that I have missed? There is still time – through to 31 July. One month and we should be able to come up with some cogent comments.
Yes its a good result for NZ but my main worry is that National won’t get a 4th term (although with Labour being such a shambles you can’t rule anything out) which means NZ will miss out on Collins running the country, building on the great work of John Key
John Key has stopped the runaway tanker and righted it and soon it’ll be Collins firmly putting the tanker into full steam ahead…if NZ is lucky, if NZ is unlucky the Greens will cobble together a coilition in 2017 and all the good work done by National will be wasted
I don’t give a shit about the mythical “left” just as I don’t give a shit about the equally mythical “right”. What I do care about is the country that I am leaving my children and if you think that National (or Labour for that matter) are improving the long term prognosis for this country then quite frankly – you’re deluded..
You denounce the collective approach to everything – and then you embrace the collective approach when it some to your own affiars. e.g. Fonterra, Foodstuffs, pretty much every single coprorate.
Why is that? Why do you say one thing and do another?
The real issue with the Herald poll is that it shows Cunliffe twice as popular with voters (both Labour and overall) as Robertson, or anyone else.
It doesn’t matter to ABC how badly Labour are doing. If the price of victory is the guy they hate, then they would prefer a defeat. We can brainstorm “solutions” or “improvements” for Labour all day, all year, but the simple, inescapable fact is … as voters, our priorities are fundamentally opposed to theirs.
We want a change of government, therefore a change in party. They want no change in party – regardless of cost to us. That’s all.
“It doesn’t matter to ABC how badly Labour are doing.”
Maybe now it does.
I have no idea what is going on behind the scenes in the Labour caucus. I can only hope and pray they have come to their senses. The Shearer experiment needs to be abandoned ASAP.
Desperation= The Herald giving the architect of ‘the gambling harm minimization bill’ column inches to explain His position vis a vis the complete and utter gutting of that piece of legislation by it’s coalition partner Slippery’s National Government,
The Maori Party’s Te Ururoa Flavell needn’t have bothered, explaining the intricacies of being the ‘Lapdog’ of the National Government in such eloquent terms still leaves the Maori Party and Te Ururoa Flavell occupying the seat as ‘Lapdog’ no matter how many or how few the weasel words are that attempt to provide a justification,
Flavell should face the facts, National went behind His back getting Tariana and Pita to accept the gutting of His harm minimization bill and Flavell had to swallow the dead rat once the changes agreed to by His leaders were made,
The ‘harm minimization legislation is in fact a metaphor for the actual gains that the Maori Party have made for their voters and Maori in general after two terms as National’s coalition partner,
Nothing is the consensus among Maori, while the Maori Party gained it’s ‘slush fund’ in Whanau Ora, Maori who use tobacco products paid for this with increased taxes,
There is no Mana in the Maori Party and Flavell must now know that He is ‘Owned’ by National MP’s only too happy to laugh in His face even doing so on National TV,
Te Ururoa should now negotiate with Hone Harawira to bring His electorate into the Mana Party as being the ‘leader’ of nothing after the 2014 election will leave Him with none whatsoever,
New Zealand Post has told staff it intends to close its Waikato, Wellington, Dunedin and heartland mail processing centres at a cost of 500 jobs.
The plan will result in 130 job losses in Waikato, 160 in Wellington, 75 in Dunedin and 125 in heartland and satellite sites.
New Zealand Post has indicated there is potential for 250 new full time equivalent roles in its Auckland, Manawatu and Christchurch mail centres, but predicts fewer than 5% of people affected by the cuts will relocate.
EPMU postal industry organiser Joe Gallagher says the announcement is devastating news for workers and their communities.
“There are a lot of people deeply fearful for their futures today. This is not a good time to find yourself on the dole queue and in the current environment it’s going to be very hard to get another job with secure hours and good rates of pay.
“We’re going to work with New Zealand Post to ensure everyone who loses their job receives their full redundancy entitlements and assistance finding new employment, but the reality is that won’t be enough.
“The Government really needs to step up to the plate here by making jobs its number one priority. People need to have some decent alternatives when they find themselves out of work and at the moment the jobs just aren’t there.”
Mr Gallagher says the union will continue to challenge cuts to New Zealand Post’s services, which also include a proposal to reduce postal delivery to three days a week and replace post offices with kiosks.
“We recognise New Zealand Post faces considerable commercial pressures and that some degree of change is inevitable, but we’re not convinced service cuts on this scale are justified.
“There are some serious questions about the figures these proposals are based on and we’ll be taking this up with the company and with the Government.”
Mr Gallagher says the union will continue to challenge cuts to New Zealand Post’s services, which also include a proposal to reduce postal delivery to three days a week and replace post offices with kiosks.
So the union thinks the tax payer should subsidize NZ post, why?
Maybe because the taxpayers subsidise dairy farmers?
Maybe because the taxpayers subsidise the NZX?
Maybe because the taxpayers subsidise businesses who make money by capital gain?
maybe because the taxpayers subsidised Steven Joyce’s ex-company Mediaworks?
Not at all. There is a difference between the state forgoing a tax (Warners) and using taxes taken to subsidise a failing business (NZ Post).
I hardly ever use post to my home any more – the effect of dropping a few days deliveries has no negative effect on me. A negative effect on the postie? No doubt at all but using that argument there should be deliveries 4 times a day and twice on the weekends (at time and a half). We don’t have lamppost lighting men or night soil men any more either and I am afraid that the postie is going the same way. The model is not viable in this day and age and keeping it as a public good (which I agree with) can only go so far.
Yes, dead right there’s a difference. Warners is a foreign company with no links to NZ other than via the liar Jackson’s wallet who got a whopping wedge of payola for no logical reason at all and NZ Post is a profitable NZ owned company that interacts with most kiwis most days and provides a service that will still be needed for generations to come in some form or other.
Are you arguing that NZ would have been better off if the Hobbit was made elsewhere? Sorry don’t answer that as it is not the point I was trying to make.
Are you suggesting that NZ Post should be subsidised just because it interacts with most people people most days? Like the night soil men? Should we still have them? Should we ban milk sales in supermarkets to protect the milk deliveries?
It was never going to be made elsewhere. It was always going to be made here. However, what little substance there was to the vague threat was enough to get Key reaching for the cheque book.
NZ Post is not being subsidised. It’s profitable (didn’t I already write this?)
Where did the union say it wanted a subsidy? It’s simply said it’s challenging the figures and that the scale of cuts isn’t justified by the decline of mail volume. FFS, you people need to learn to read.
Holy crap that is bad news. Why bother with a nation state if you just sack everyone? Last person with a proper job please turn out the lights. The natz still want to keep the spooks, coppers and Army on tho.
When Labour greens mana Maori Winston first do finally cobble together a coalition ( sit down and watch the fun) it will be an interesting side show to watch the government of the damned hold themselves to the same standard they have demanded from National the prior 12 or 15 years.
I think the left are missing the point completely. NZ will not stand for the policies that Labour and the greens promote. These policies have very much frightened the horses. But I am received that Shearer is not going to change a thing ( how could he – that would take some doing against the factionalised Labour Party.)
Easy. LP+Greens+NZF in any combination of Government coalition or just confidence and supply. And do bear in mind that this is the Herald, not exactly the paragon of accuracy. Every percentage point Labour get above Granny’s figure is a nail in Key’s coffin.
As I’ve said before, the only poll that even comes close to being accurate is the Roy Morgan. The function of the others is to convince Labour supporters not to vote.
Heres your problem, Russell Norman siad he wont be in any coalition with nzfirst.
Then you have the fact that the greens always poll higher than they get. You have national and the maori party, thats all they need. a party with cant become government.
Her’s your problem, you are full of s**t, give us a link to anywhere Russel Norman has said he will not enter a coalition Government that NZFirst are part of…
TRP of course Labour will be able to form a govt with 30.9%. Which position will Labour give to the Greens? Deputy PM + Economic Development or Finance?
Big day over the ditch. Two independents, Oakshott and Windsor, have just announced their retirements at the next election. Neither will support a Rudd led Government for the rest of the term if Gillard loses to him tomorrow, so, if she does get rolled, expect a vote of no confidence from the Liberals immediately and an election in a month.
New Zealand’s waste policies are stuck in the 19th Century as ever-rising levels of rubbish are dumped to landfill instead of a system fit for the 21st Century of more and better recycling and possibly waste incineration, a leading environmental law expert says.
This is so true. Absolutely nothing should be going to landfills as it should all be recycled and if it can’t be recycled then it shouldn’t be on the market.
QT 25.6
Q.6. Parker- according to the ANZ analysis, the domestic-centric balance of growth is not sustainable.
Q.8. “more (oversight) with less resources will be rquired to police migrant exploitation”-Darien Fenton.
Q.10. Amy Adams (felt unwell just watching her) – “not a good idea for local councils to be regulating GMO’s under their plans” (Northland and Auckland councils putting in protections; Adams swooping in to over-ride). NAct have a GMO-promoting agenda (productivity gains in sight).
moving Right along…, 1000’s of the elderly are being scammed out of millions per year; fear and embarrassment preventing declaration of foolishness. “Names” of the gullible are placed on “suckers lists”; no understanding, what did they learn through the course of their lives?
Regional Council admits the vulnerability of Wellington to Nature, you don’t say, well, blow me away with a feather!.
“NZ Land Transport are fueling the housing crisis” Surprise surprise!
NZ is ranked worst out of 33 OECD countries for the earning potential of University graduates, realising a mere 18% premium above secondary school leavers.
NZ Post used to be a respected operation, which has been run into the ground. with or without digital mail, its been slide created by inept/corrupt management, directors!
Nope, it’s obvious that snail mail is on the way out. Industry, on the other hand, should be increasing with NZ producing more and more from our own resources.
Good Labour policy would protect a few hundred jobs a year using millions of tax payers dollars. Think of being able to go into an election saying unemployment is low…. Very popular thing to do and well worth bankrupting the country for the popularity of the red team…
Perhaps we could learn from how government protected the railways from road transport competition. Make it illegal for eMail to get to the destination faster than snail mail. That little “protectionist” law kept about 15,000 employees in safe jobs in the railways… Protecting a dysfunctional pit for tax payers dollars because it was a state owned monopoly….
A few hundred jobs for a few million tax payers dollars is cheap as chips.
Yes … The wagon wheel business could still be making beautifully crafted wooden wheels for horse drawn carts keeping those jobs alive and keeping the ‘Waggon wheel makers’ union happy. Imagine the fun we could have building them breaking them down for a few million each year protecting those jobs that were going to be lost 60 years ago….
And burt comes back with the old but Labour did it too whinge. Yes burt, they’ve both been doing it and it’s something that’s been done for centuries. Capitalism isn’t the massive engine of progress that you and others seem to think – it runs on government subsidies. Without them it’d crash and burn.
BTW, burt, this government increased the subsidies specifically for The Hobbit.
Moscow doesn’t just have a public train system- it has a public escalator system!
How do you keep them running?
“People,” Likhachev says. His division has a staff of 3,000. It has workers posted at every station during operating hours. It has a 20-member emergency rapid response team. It also has its own factory churning out spare parts, “so we don’t have to rely on suppliers.”
This is not to say that all escalators work all the time, because they don’t. But let’s be clear about one thing: “We do not have escalators out of order,” Likhachev says. “We close some for repair.”
…and today’s programme has been brought to you by the letter ‘A’, and the number ’11’
(Oscar is definitely not a prince in waiting).
“Alienation: A psychological or social evil, characterised by one or another type of harmful separation, disruption or fragmentation, which sunders things which belong together. people are alienated from the political process when they feel separated from it and powerless in relation to it; this is alienation because in a democratic society you belong in the political process, and as a citizen it ought to belong to you.
Reflection on your beliefs, values or social order can also alienate you from them. It can undermine your attachment to them, cause you to feel separated from them, no longer identified with them, yet without furnishing anything to take their place; they are yours ‘faute de mieux’, but no longer truly yours: they are yours, but you are alienated from them.
Marx derived the terms ‘Entdusserung’ and ‘Entfremdung’ from Hegel, who used them to portray the ‘unhappy consciousness’ of the Roman world and the Christian Middle Ages.
Marx used essentially the same notion to portray the situation of modern individuals- especially modern wage labourers- who are deprived of a fulfilling mode of life because their life-activity as socially productive agents is devoid of any sense of communal action or satisfaction and gives them no ownership over their own lives or their products. In modern society, individuals are alienated in so far as their common essence, the actual cooperative activity which naturally unites them, is powerless in their lives, which are subject to an inhuman power- created by them, but separating and dominating them instead of being subject to their united will.
This is the power of the ‘market’, which is ‘free’ only in the sense that it is beyond the control of it’s human creators, enslaving them by separating them from one another, from their activity, and from it’s products.
The verbs ‘entaussern’ and ‘entfremden’ are reflexive, and in both Hegel and Marx alienation is always fundamentally ‘self’-alienation.Fundamentally, to be alienated is to be separated from one’s own essence or nature; it is to be forced to lead a life in which that nature has no opportunity to be fulfilled or actualized.
Your life objectively actualizes your nature, especially (for both Marx and Hegel) your life with others as a social being on the basis of a determinate course of historical development.
Their view that alienation, so conceived, can nevertheless have historical consequences, and even be a lever for social change, clearly invokes some sort of realism about the human good: it makes a difference, psychologically and socially, whether people actualize their nature, and when they do not, this fact explains waht they think, feel and do, and it can play a decisive role in historical change.
More laughing and sneering at dissidents
Inanity rules, as usual, on The Panel
Radio NZ National, Wednesday 26 June 2013
Jim Mora, Dita De Boni, Chris Wikaira
JIM MORA: All right, it’s Susan Baldacci with what the woooooorld’s talking about! What have you got for us today?
SUSAN BALDACCI: Someone who’s name is on the lips of virtually EVERYBODY is Edward Snowden.
DITA DE BONI: Oh yes? He he he he he!
MORA: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
SUSAN BALDACCI: Yeeeeeessss, well this guy is the new JETSET TRAVELLER!
MORA: Hur hur hur hur hur!
SUSAN BALDACCI: Well, people have been asking how the heck he DOES it!
DITA DE BONI: Yes! I’ve been asking that!
MORA: He’s like a ghost!
DITA DE BONI: Apparently he didn’t even need a passport to get into Russia!
SUSAN BALDACCI: No, well that’s just it, you see. You only need a passport if the country you are entering DEMANDS one. That’s how so many refugees manage to get into countries after they have destroyed their documents.
DITA DE BONI: What is the advantage for Ecuador in taking this guy?
MORA: Arrrgghh, they’re just thumbing their nose at the world.
SUSAN BALDACCI: Yeah. Otherwise why would they take Julian Assange?
DITA DE BONI: Exactly.
MORA: They’re staking out a position in South America.
DITA DE BONI: Exactly!
MORA: Okay, moving on. You’ve got something about Stephen Fry?
SUSAN BALDACCI: Yes, he has written about how extremely depressed he gets sometimes.
MORA: He always seems, to me, to live a gilded life. He’s erudite, he’s witty, he’s clever, he’s just so admired.
DITA DE BONI:[slowly, to indicate great seriousness] I think he struggles with being gay.
SUSAN BALDACCI: I think he’s a tortured soul.
DITA DE BONI: When he came out, it wasn’t so cool you know? It wasn’t so hip, you know?
….[Awkward silence]….
MORA: Mmmmmkayyy… Okay, Susan Baldacci, what else have you got?
SUSAN BALDACCI: Well, there’s a new survey has found the best places for a tertiary education. They are, number one: CANADA.
MORA: Canada! Hmmmmm.
SUSAN BALDACCI: Number two is ISRAEL.
MORA: Israel, yes.
SUSAN BALDACCI: Japan was third.
MORA: Japan was third?
SUSAN BALDACCI:[clearly irritated] Y-y-y-y-yes. The United States was fourth. And fifth was… NEW ZEALAND! Sixth was South Korea, seventh the U.K., eighth was Australia, and Ireland was next.
….[Stunned silence for several seconds]…..
DITA DE BONI: I am really shocked by that. New Zealand at number FIVE?!!??!?!?
now, that is very funny Morrissey, but wait, a song hearkens… Oh my word, what does it mean
won’t you please read my signs, be a Gypsy.
Love To All On The Left.
Morrissey. We are so fortunate that we do not have to listen to Newstalkzb, Radio Live, the National Programme from dawn to dusk. We have you. (transcripts and all). Keep up the good work, especially the ever growing listings of liars and deceivers. However, I hope you were able to appreciate that there was fog, drizzle, and occasional sunshine over Auckland today.
I hate to have to keep repeating this, but Moz’s efforts are not transcripts. They are his half remembered impressions of what was said. Other than the names, most of what he claims above bears little resemblance to what was actually said, or the tone in which it was said.
I hate to have to keep repeating this, but Moz’s efforts are not transcripts.
I did not haul out the old BASF tape and insert it into the tape-recorder, no. And no, that was not a sexual metaphor.
They are his half remembered impressions of what was said.
Anyone who listened to that horrible fifteen minutes of inanity yesterday knows that what I wrote is way, way more than “half remembered.”
Other than the names, most of what he claims above bears little resemblance to what was actually said, or the tone in which it was said.
I challenge anyone to dispute seriously that the characters in my little horror script are not simulacra of the principals involved in yesterday’s Panel pre-show segment. Any listener who persevered with listening to them will attest that Dita De Boni really was that shallow, that Susan Baldacci really was that disgusting, and that Jim Mora really was, as always, that special mix of avuncular, cowardly, frivolous, insincere and superficial.
Keep up the good work, especially the ever growing listings of liars and deceivers.
Sadly, Liars of Our Time is a series which seems to have no prospect of ending any time soon. Watch out also for: Dum Quote of the Week, Hall of Hogwash, Humbug Corner, Luvvies on the Loose, The Ouch! File, The Subservience Index, Weasel Watch, Wimp Walloping and Yeah Right.
However, I hope you were able to appreciate that there was fog, drizzle, and occasional sunshine over Auckland today.
That transcript—or, as our friend Te Reo Putake reminds us, that “impression”—was done quickly, by hand, then typed up in a fever. That was the only time I listened to the radio all afternoon. Similarly, I don’t watch much TV, although it might seem like it sometimes.
The state’s right to increase its powers of surveillance and Key’s old chestnut assurance that “if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear”. In an odd way, the Texas legislature has just sent a warning to us all. What is legal today, might not be should a radical change of government take place in the future. A government that could trawl through the googol bytes of data on files and establish that an individual or group were doing things that are suddenly subversive or anti-state in the new administration’s views.
3rd Degree tonight must surely settle the question. Robin did it.
The evidence was there from day one and nobody – not the lawyers, not the police, not Karam, not the firearms experts, not anyone who looked at the photos ever noticed it. By the time Robin’s body reached the pathologist the evidence was probably gone, brushed off, but those magazine loading marks on his thumb and forefinger in the crime scene photos are unmistakable.
Yeah, nah. It’s interesting, but is it provable evidence? We don’t make legal decisions based on TV shows, thankfully. Bear in mind that the show was based around the premise that it proves Robin Bain did it. I’d wait for the responses from the coppers and prosecution before making a judgement. And, if it was David, he could conceivably pressed the magazine to his dead Dad’s fingers about the same time he typed the computer message.
Having said all that, it does beggar belief that his body wasn’t checked more thoroughly.
Yep, true, it’s not conclusive, but it’s the piece of the puzzle I was looking for. I always thought David did it. It’s close enough to the smoking gun for me. It virtually is the smoking gun. It’s never even been raised before. As you say, the next few days and comments from police etc will be interesting.
David could have conceivably done that, but if he had, wouldn’t he have attempted to draw attention to the marks in the 2 pics? They were both widely used in the trials. Will be an interesting few weeks ahead.
That’s along the lines I’m thinking. If he was clever enough to go to that degree of detail to frame his dad, surely he’d have been clever enough to have found a way to nudge his defence team into noticing the marks. They’d be so critically important to the defence case.
Another thought: how come David didn’t spot the marks? He must have stared at those photos for years and he would have seen the same marks on his own hand every time he used the gun.
That’s the thing, TRP. It suggests he’s innocent. The residue stripes happen to anyone loading a magazine after the gun’s been fired, and that one misfires a lot and needed reloading even at the murder scene, but it’s just powder and it rubs off almost straight away just doing anything – people may not even pay it any attention. He just may have never thought of it. If he’d framed his dad he’d have thought of it.
According to the doco, the photos weren’t blown up. The Waikato man who discovered the marks noticed them after the pictures were enlarged considerably.
Yeah. The guy is a businessman and took an interest before the last trial. He was looking at the pics enlarged on his computer screen I think he said. And he used to shoot as a lad on a farm. That’s how he made the connection. The compensation case just got very interesting again.
Be interesting to hear James (was it) McNeish’s response. He was pretty public and on occasion near shrewish in his condemnation of David Bain.
NZ Femme above – yeah, David Bain could have done that number. I mean no one can prove he didn’t but it’s as unlikely as the nonsense someone in the Crown or the police were mouthing off – he or his lawyer or somebody deliberately ballsed things up for the joy of being convicted a murderer, then winning a retrial or an appeal or something ???
Sounds very much Simon Bridges ex-Crown prosecutor to me, viz. bloody ridiculous.
Right. Like you and Arfamo, it makes no sense at all to me either.
“I’m going to spend the next 13 years rotting in jail, sitting on evidence I handily whipped up earlier that could get me off, entirely for shits and giggles.”
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Luxon will no doubt put a brave face on it, but there is no escaping the pressure this latest poll will put on him and the government. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: These are the six things that stood out to me in news and commentary on Aotearoa-NZ’s political ...
This is a re-post from The Climate Brink by Andrew Dessler In the wake of any unusual weather event, someone inevitably asks, “Did climate change cause this?” In the most literal sense, that answer is almost always no. Climate change is never the sole cause of hurricanes, heat waves, droughts, or ...
Something odd happened yesterday, and I’d love to know if there’s more to it. If there was something which preempted what happened, or if it was simply a throwaway line in response to a journalist.Yesterday David Seymour was asked at a press conference what the process would be if the ...
Hi,From time to time, I want to bring Webworm into the real world. We did it last year with the Jurassic Park event in New Zealand — which was a lot of fun!And so on Saturday May 11th, in Los Angeles, I am hosting a lil’ Webworm pop-up! I’ve been ...
Education Minister Erica Standford yesterday unveiled a fundamental reform of the way our school pupils are taught. She would not exactly say so, but she is all but dismantling the so-called “inquiry” “feel good” method of teaching, which has ruled in our classrooms since a major review of the New ...
Exactly where are we seriously going with this government and its policies? That is, apart from following what may as well be a Truss-Lite approach on the purported economic “plan“, and Victorian-era regression when it comes to social policy.Oh it’ll work this time of course, we’re basically assured, “the ...
Hey Uncle Dave, When the Poms joined the EEC, I wasn't one of those defeatists who said, Well, that’s it for the dairy job. And I was right, eh? The Chinese can’t get enough of our milk powder and eventually, the Poms came to their senses and backed up the ute ...
Polling shows that Wellington Mayor Tory Whanau has the lowest approval rating of any mayor in the country. Siting at -12 per cent, the proportion of constituents who disapprove of her performance outweighs those who give her the thumbs up. This negative rating is higher than for any other mayor ...
Buzz from the Beehive Pharmac has been given a financial transfusion and a new chair to oversee its spending in the pharmaceutical business. Associate Health Minister David Seymour described the funding for Pharmac as “its largest ever budget of $6.294 billion over four years, fixing a $1.774 billion fiscal cliff”. ...
Bryce Edwards writes – Many criticisms are being made of the Government’s Fast Track Approvals Bill, including by this writer. But as with everything in politics, every story has two sides, and both deserve attention. It’s important to understand what the Government is trying to achieve and its ...
TL;DR: Here’s my top 10 ‘pick ‘n’ mix of links to news, analysis and opinion articles as of 10:10am on Monday, April 29:Scoop: The children's ward at Rotorua Hospital will be missing a third of its beds as winter hits because Te Whatu Ora halted an upgrade partway through to ...
span class=”dropcap”>As hideous as David Seymour can be, it is worth keeping in mind occasionally that there are even worse political figures (and regimes) out there. Iran for instance, is about to execute the country’s leading hip hop musician Toomaj Salehi, for writing and performing raps that “corrupt” the nation’s ...
Yesterday marked 10 years since the first electric train carried passengers in Auckland so it’s a good time to look back at it and the impact it has had. A brief history The first proposals for rail electrification in Auckland came in the 1920’s alongside the plans for earlier ...
Right now, in Aotearoa-NZ, our ‘animal spirits’ are darkening towards a winter of discontent, thanks at least partly to a chorus of negative comments and actions from the Government Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: These are the six things that stood out to me in news and commentary on ...
You make people evil to punish the paststuck inside a sequel with a rotating castThe following photos haven’t been generated with AI, or modified in any way. They are flesh and blood, human beings. On the left is Galatea Young, a young mum, and her daughter Fiadh who has Angelman ...
April has been a quiet month at A Phuulish Fellow. I have had an exceptionally good reading month, and a decently productive writing month – for original fiction, anyway – but not much has caught my eye that suggested a blog article. It has been vaguely frustrating, to be honest. ...
A listing of 31 news and opinion articles we found interesting and shared on social media during the past week: Sun, April 21, 2024 thru Sat, April 27, 2024. Story of the week Anthropogenic climate change may be the ultimate shaggy dog story— but with a twist, because here ...
Hi,I spent about a year on Webworm reporting on an abusive megachurch called Arise, and it made me want to stab my eyes out with a fork.I don’t regret that reporting in 2022 and 2023 — I am proud of it — but it made me angry.Over three main stories ...
The new Victoria University Vice-Chancellor decided to have a forum at the university about free speech and academic freedom as it is obviously a topical issue, and the Government is looking at legislating some carrots or sticks for universities to uphold their obligations under the Education and Training Act. They ...
Do you remember when Melania Trump got caught out using a speech that sounded awfully like one Michelle Obama had given? Uncannily so.Well it turns out that Abraham Lincoln is to Winston Peters as Michelle was to Melania. With the ANZAC speech Uncle Winston gave at Gallipoli having much in ...
She was born 25 years ago today in North Shore hospital. Her eyes were closed tightly shut, her mouth was silently moving. The whole theatre was all quiet intensity as they marked her a 2 on the APGAR test. A one-minute eternity later, she was an 8. The universe was ...
Skeptical Science is partnering with Gigafact to produce fact briefs — bite-sized fact checks of trending claims. This fact brief was written by Sue Bin Park in collaboration with members from our Skeptical Science team. You can submit claims you think need checking via the tipline. Is Antarctica gaining land ice? ...
Images of US students (and others) protesting and setting up tent cities on US university campuses have been broadcast world wide and clearly demonstrate the growing rifts in US society caused by US policy toward Israel and Israel’s prosecution of … Continue reading → ...
The Government is again adding to New Zealand’s growing unemployment, this time cutting jobs at the agencies responsible for urban development and growing much needed housing stock. ...
With Minister Karen Chhour indicating in the House today that she either doesn’t know or care about the frontline cuts she’s making to Oranga Tamariki, we risk seeing more and more of our children falling through the cracks. ...
The Labour Party is saddened to learn of the death of Sir Robert Martin, a globally renowned disability advocate who led the way for disability rights both in New Zealand and internationally. ...
Labour is calling for the Government to urgently rethink its coalition commitment to restart live animal exports, Labour animal welfare spokesperson Rachel Boyack said. ...
Today’s Financial Stability Report has once again highlighted that poverty and deep inequality are political choices - and this Government is choosing to make them worse. ...
The Green Party is calling on the Government to do more for our households in most need as unemployment rises and the cost of living crisis endures. ...
Unemployment is on the rise and it’s only going to get worse under this Government, Labour finance spokesperson Barbara Edmonds said. Stats NZ figures show the unemployment rate grew to 4.3 percent in the March quarter from 4 percent in the December quarter. “This is the second rise in unemployment ...
The New Zealand Labour Party welcomes the entering into force of the European Union and New Zealand free trade agreement. This agreement opens the door for a huge increase in trade opportunities with a market of 450 million people who are high value discerning consumers of New Zealand goods and ...
The National-led Government continues its fiscal jiggery pokery with its Pharmac announcement today, Labour Health spokesperson Ayesha Verrall says. “The government has increased Pharmac funding but conceded it will only make minimal increases in access to medicine”, said Ayesha Verrall “This is far from the bold promises made to fund ...
This afternoon’s interim Waitangi Tribunal report must be taken seriously as it affects our most vulnerable children, Labour children’s spokesperson Willow-Jean Prime. ...
Te Pāti Māori are demanding the New Zealand Government support an international independent investigation into mass graves that have been uncovered at two hospitals on the Gaza strip, following weeks of assault by Israeli troops. Among the 392 bodies that have been recovered, are children and elderly civilians. Many of ...
Our two-tiered system for veterans’ support is out of step with our closest partners, and all parties in Parliament should work together to fix it, Labour veterans’ affairs spokesperson Greg O’Connor said. ...
Stripping two Ministers of their portfolios just six months into the job shows Christopher Luxon’s management style is lacking, Labour Leader Chris Hipkins said. ...
Tonight’s court decision to overturn the summons of the Children’s Minister has enabled the Crown to continue making decisions about Māori without evidence, says Te Pāti Māori spokesperson for Children, Mariameno Kapa-Kingi. “The judicial system has this evening told the nation that this government can do whatever they want when ...
It appears Nicola Willis is about to pull the rug out from under the feet of local communities still dealing with the aftermath of last year’s severe weather, and local councils relying on funding to build back from these disasters. ...
The Government is making short-sighted changes to the Resource Management Act (RMA) that will take away environmental protection in favour of short-term profits, Labour’s environment spokesperson Rachel Brooking said today. ...
Labour welcomes the release of the report into the North Island weather events and looks forward to working with the Government to ensure that New Zealand is as prepared as it can be for the next natural disaster. ...
The Labour Party has called for the New Zealand Government to recognise Palestine, as a material step towards progressing the two-State solution needed to achieve a lasting peace in the region. ...
Some of our country’s most important work, stopping the sexual exploitation of children and violent extremism could go along with staff on the frontline at ports and airports. ...
The Government’s Fast Track Approvals Bill will give projects such as new coal mines a ‘get out of jail free’ card to wreak havoc on the environment, Labour Leader Chris Hipkins said today. ...
The government's decision to reintroduce Three Strikes is a destructive and ineffective piece of law-making that will only exacerbate an inherently biased and racist criminal justice system, said Te Pāti Māori Justice Spokesperson, Tākuta Ferris, today. During the time Three Strikes was in place in Aotearoa, Māori and Pasifika received ...
Cuts to frontline hospital staff are not only a broken election promise, it shows the reckless tax cuts have well and truly hit the frontline of the health system, says Labour Health spokesperson Ayesha Verrall. ...
The Green Party has joined the call for public submissions on the fast-track legislation to be extended after the Ombudsman forced the Government to release the list of organisations invited to apply just hours before submissions close. ...
New Zealand’s good work at reducing climate emissions for three years in a row will be undone by the National government’s lack of ambition and scrapping programmes that were making a difference, Labour Party climate spokesperson Megan Woods said today. ...
More essential jobs could be on the chopping block, this time Ministry of Education staff on the school lunches team are set to find out whether they're in line to lose their jobs. ...
Te Pāti Māori is disgusted at the confirmation that hundreds are set to lose their jobs at Oranga Tamariki, and the disestablishment of the Treaty Response Unit. “This act of absolute carelessness and out of touch decision making is committing tamariki to state abuse.” Said Te Pāti Māori Oranga Tamariki ...
The Government is trying to bring in a law that will allow Ministers to cut corners and kill off native species, Labour environment spokesperson Rachel Brooking said. ...
Cancelling urgently needed new Cook Strait ferries and hiking the cost of public transport for many Kiwis so that National can announce the prospect of another tunnel for Wellington is not making good choices, Labour Transport Spokesperson Tangi Utikere said. ...
A laundry list of additional costs for Tāmaki Makarau Auckland shows the Minister for the city is not delivering for the people who live there, says Labour Auckland Issues spokesperson Shanan Halbert. ...
Te Pāti Māori co-leader Rawiri Waititi, and Mema Paremata mō Tāmaki-Makaurau, Takutai Tarsh Kemp, will travel to the Gold Coast to strengthen ties with Māori in Australia next week (15-21 April). The visit, in the lead-up to the 9th Australian National Kapa haka Festival, will be an opportunity for both ...
The Minister Responsible for RMA Reform, Chris Bishop today released his decision on four recommendations referred to him by the Western Bay of Plenty District Council, opening the door to housing growth in the area. The Council’s Plan Change 92 allows more homes to be built in existing and new ...
Thank you, John McKinnon and the New Zealand China Council for the invitation to speak to you today. Thank you too, all members of the China Council. Your effort has played an essential role in helping to build, shape, and grow a balanced and resilient relationship between our two ...
The Government is modernising insurance law to better protect Kiwis and provide security in the event of a disaster, Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Andrew Bayly announced today. “These reforms are long overdue. New Zealand’s insurance law is complicated and dated, some of which is more than 100 years old. ...
The coalition Government is refreshing its approach to supporting pay equity claims as time-limited funding for the Pay Equity Taskforce comes to an end, Public Service Minister Nicola Willis says. “Three years ago, the then-government introduced changes to the Equal Pay Act to support pay equity bargaining. The changes were ...
Structured literacy will change the way New Zealand children learn to read - improving achievement and setting students up for success, Education Minister Erica Stanford says. “Being able to read and write is a fundamental life skill that too many young people are missing out on. Recent data shows that ...
Trade Minister Todd McClay says Canada’s refusal to comply in full with a CPTPP trade dispute ruling in our favour over dairy trade is cynical and New Zealand has no intention of backing down. Mr McClay said he has asked for urgent legal advice in respect of our ‘next move’ ...
The rights of our children and young people will be enhanced by changes the coalition Government will make to strengthen oversight of the Oranga Tamariki system, including restoring a single Children’s Commissioner. “The Government is committed to delivering better public services that care for our most at-risk young people and ...
The Government is making it easier for minor changes to be made to a building consent so building a home is easier and more affordable, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “The coalition Government is focused on making it easier and cheaper to build homes so we can ...
New Zealand lost a true legend when internationally renowned disability advocate Sir Robert Martin (KNZM) passed away at his home in Whanganui last night, Disabilities Issues Minister Louise Upston says. “Our Government’s thoughts are with his wife Lynda, family and community, those he has worked with, the disability community in ...
Good evening – Before discussing the challenges and opportunities facing New Zealand’s foreign policy, we’d like to first acknowledge the New Zealand Institute of International Affairs. You have contributed to debates about New Zealand foreign policy over a long period of time, and we thank you for hosting us. ...
From today, passengers travelling internationally from Auckland Airport will be able to keep laptops and liquids in their carry-on bags for security screening thanks to new technology, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “Creating a more efficient and seamless travel experience is important for holidaymakers and businesses, enabling faster movement through ...
People with an interest in the health of Northland’s marine ecosystems are invited to a public meeting to discuss how to deal with kina barrens, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones will lead the discussion, which will take place on Friday, 10 May, at Awanui Hotel in ...
Kiwi exporters are $100 million better off today with the NZ EU FTA entering into force says Trade Minister Todd McClay. “This is all part of our plan to grow the economy. New Zealand's prosperity depends on international trade, making up 60 per cent of the country’s total economic activity. ...
There are heartening signs that the extractive sector is once again becoming an attractive prospect for investors and a source of economic prosperity for New Zealand, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. “The beginnings of a resurgence in extractive industries are apparent in media reports of the sector in the past ...
The return of the historic Ō-Rākau battle site to the descendants of those who fought there moved one step closer today with the first reading of Te Pire mō Ō-Rākau, Te Pae o Maumahara / The Ō-Rākau Remembrance Bill. The Bill will entrust the 9.7-hectare battle site, five kilometres west ...
Energy Minister Simeon Brown has announced 25 new high-speed EV charging hubs along key routes between major urban centres and outlined the Government’s plan to supercharge New Zealand’s EV infrastructure. The hubs will each have several chargers and be capable of charging at least four – and up to 10 ...
The coalition Government will not proceed with the previous Government’s plans to regulate residential property managers, Housing Minister Chris Bishop says. “I have written to the Chairperson of the Social Services and Community Committee to inform him that the Government does not intend to support the Residential Property Managers Bill ...
The Government has announced an independent review into the disability support system funded by the Ministry of Disabled People – Whaikaha. Disability Issues Minister Louise Upston says the review will look at what can be done to strengthen the long-term sustainability of Disability Support Services to provide disabled people and ...
Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith has attended the Universal Periodic Review in Geneva and outlined the Government’s plan to restore law and order. “Speaking to the United Nations Human Rights Council provided us with an opportunity to present New Zealand’s human rights progress, priorities, and challenges, while responding to issues and ...
The Government and Rotorua Lakes Council are committed to working closely together to end the use of contracted emergency housing motels in Rotorua. Associate Minister of Housing (Social Housing) Tama Potaka says the Government remains committed to ending the long-term use of contracted emergency housing motels in Rotorua by the ...
Trade Minister Todd McClay heads overseas today for high-level trade talks in the Gulf region, and a key OECD meeting in Paris. Mr McClay will travel to Riyadh to meet with counterparts from Saudi Arabia and the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC). “New Zealand’s goods and services exports to the Gulf region ...
Education Minister Erica Stanford has outlined six education priorities to deliver a world-leading education system that sets Kiwi kids up for future success. “I’m putting ambition, achievement and outcomes at the heart of our education system. I want every child to be inspired and engaged in their learning so they ...
The new NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) App is a secure ‘one stop shop’ to provide the services drivers need, Transport Minister Simeon Brown and Digitising Government Minister Judith Collins say. “The NZTA App will enable an easier way for Kiwis to pay for Vehicle Registration and Road User Charges (RUC). ...
Whānau with tamariki growing up in emergency housing motels will be prioritised for social housing starting this week, says Associate Housing Minister Tama Potaka. “Giving these whānau a better opportunity to build healthy stable lives for themselves and future generations is an essential part of the Government’s goal of reducing ...
Racing Minister Winston Peters has paid tribute to an icon of the industry with the recent passing of Dave O’Sullivan (OBE). “Our sympathies are with the O’Sullivan family with the sad news of Dave O’Sullivan’s recent passing,” Mr Peters says. “His contribution to racing, initially as a jockey and then ...
Assalaamu alaikum, greetings to you all. Eid Mubarak, everyone! I want to extend my warmest wishes to you and everyone celebrating this joyous occasion. It is a pleasure to be here. I have enjoyed Eid celebrations at Parliament before, but this is my first time joining you as the Minister ...
Associate Health Minister David Seymour has announced Pharmac’s largest ever budget of $6.294 billion over four years, fixing a $1.774 billion fiscal cliff. “Access to medicines is a crucial part of many Kiwis’ lives. We’ve committed to a budget allocation of $1.774 billion over four years so Kiwis are ...
Hon Paula Bennett has been appointed as member and chair of the Pharmac board, Associate Health Minister David Seymour announced today. "Pharmac is a critical part of New Zealand's health system and plays a significant role in ensuring that Kiwis have the best possible access to medicines,” says Mr Seymour. ...
Hundreds of New Zealand families affected by Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder (FASD) will benefit from a new Government focus on prevention and treatment, says Health Minister Dr Shane Reti. “We know FASD is a leading cause of preventable intellectual and neurodevelopmental disability in New Zealand,” Dr Reti says. “Every day, ...
Regional Development Minister Shane Jones today attended the official opening of Kaikohe’s new $14.7 million sports complex. “The completion of the Kaikohe Multi Sports Complex is a fantastic achievement for the Far North,” Mr Jones says. “This facility not only fulfils a long-held dream for local athletes, but also creates ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters’ engagements in Türkiye this week underlined the importance of diplomacy to meet growing global challenges. “Returning to the Gallipoli Peninsula to represent New Zealand at Anzac commemorations was a sombre reminder of the critical importance of diplomacy for de-escalating conflicts and easing tensions,” Mr Peters ...
Ambassador Millar, Burgemeester, Vandepitte, Excellencies, military representatives, distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen – good morning and welcome to this sacred Anzac Day dawn service. It is an honour to be here on behalf of the Government and people of New Zealand at Buttes New British Cemetery, Polygon Wood – a deeply ...
Distinguished guests - It is an honour to return once again to this site which, as the resting place for so many of our war-dead, has become a sacred place for generations of New Zealanders. Our presence here and at the other special spaces of Gallipoli is made ...
Mai ia tawhiti pamamao, te moana nui a Kiwa, kua tae whakaiti mai matou, ki to koutou papa whenua. No koutou te tapuwae, no matou te tapuwae, kua honoa pumautia. Ko nga toa kua hinga nei, o te Waipounamu, o te Ika a Maui, he okioki tahi me o ...
Paul Goldsmith will take on responsibility for the Media and Communications portfolio, while Louise Upston will pick up the Disability Issues portfolio, Prime Minister Christopher Luxon announced today. “Our Government is relentlessly focused on getting New Zealand back on track. As issues change in prominence, I plan to adjust Ministerial ...
Recreational catch limits will be reduced in areas of Fiordland and the Chatham Islands to help keep those fisheries healthy and sustainable, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones says. The lower recreational daily catch limits for a range of finfish and shellfish species caught in the Fiordland Marine Area and ...
Energy Minister Simeon Brown has welcomed an important milestone in New Zealand’s hydrogen future, with the opening of the country’s first network of hydrogen refuelling stations in Wiri. “I want to congratulate the team at Hiringa Energy and its partners K one W one (K1W1), Mitsui & Co New Zealand ...
The coalition Government is delivering on its commitment to improve resource management laws and give greater certainty to consent applicants, with a Bill to amend the Resource Management Act (RMA) expected to be introduced to Parliament next month. RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop has today outlined the first RMA Amendment ...
Overseas models for regulating the oil and gas sector, including their decommissioning regimes, are being carefully scrutinised as a potential template for New Zealand’s own sector, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. The Coalition Government is focused on rebuilding investor confidence in New Zealand’s energy sector as it looks to strengthen ...
Emergency Management and Recovery Minister Mark Mitchell has today released the Report of the Government Inquiry into the response to the North Island Severe Weather Events. “The report shows that New Zealand’s emergency management system is not fit-for-purpose and there are some significant gaps we need to address,” Mr Mitchell ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Richard de Grijs, Professor of Astrophysics, Macquarie University Bruno Scramgnon/Pexels All systems are “go” for tonight’s launch of China’s next step in a carefully planned lunar exploration program. Placed on top of a powerful Long March 5 rocket, the Chang’e 6 ...
National returned a massive donation the day after a Newsroom story linked the donors to a property being investigated for operating unlawfully as a migrant workers’ hostel. The party’s 2023 donation filings, released on Friday, show it returned a $200,000 donation from Buen Holdings on August 23. That was the ...
Pacific Media Watch New Zealand has slumped to an unprecedented 19th place in the annual Reporters Without Borders World Press Freedom Index survey released today on World Press Freedom Day — May 3. This was a drop of six places from 13th last year when it slipped out of its ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Joshua Black, Political Historian and Administrator Officer, Australian Historical Association, Australian National University Australia has had its fair share of public record-keeping controversies in recent years. Some have been mere farce, as in the case of two formerly government-owned filing cabinets (containing ...
Heavenly Culture, World Peace, Restoration of Light (HWPL), a United Nations-affiliated organization dedicated to fostering peace through civilian-led initiatives, has issued a statement in response to the escalating conflict between Israel and Iran. ...
A poem by Tessa Keenan, from AUP New Poets 10. Mātou These days we are a photograph; one of a farm strewn with cows that used to be bright harakeke or swamp. The kids point at it and say the sun sits behind a smudge (left by someone at Christmas); ...
The only published and available best-selling indie book chart in New Zealand is the top 10 sales list recorded every week at Unity Books’ stores in High St, Auckland, and Willis St, Wellington.AUCKLAND1 Small Things Like These by Claire Keegan (Faber & Faber, $25)The masterful Irish writer ...
Marriage and civil union statistics record the number of marriages and civil unions registered in New Zealand each year, and divorce statistics record the number of divorces granted in New Zealand each year. Key facts Marriages and civil unions In ...
Marriage and civil union statistics record the number of marriages and civil unions registered in New Zealand each year, and divorce statistics record the number of divorces granted in New Zealand each year. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Lennon Y.C. Chang, Associate Professor of Cyber Risk and Policy, Deakin University Taiwan stands out as a beacon of democracy, innovation and resilience in an increasingly autocratic region. But this is under growing threat. In recent years, China has used a variety ...
In this excerpt from her new memoir, Dame Susan Devoy remembers her turn as star contestant on the 2022 season of Celebrity Treasure Island. The most anxious time of every day was pre-elimination, when you knew this could be your final day on the show. I felt such contradictory emotions, ...
A week that began in triumph ended in an all-too-familiar disaster for the Green Party. Duncan Greive asks if there’s something in the mission that breaks its best and brightest. A long, strange week for the Green party began with a fantastic poll result. On one level this is hardly ...
By Lydia Lewis, RNZ Pacific journalist Vanuatu’s former prime minister and opposition MP Ishmael Kalsakau has stepped down — just two days after he confirmed he was the rightful opposition leader. Kalsakau, MP for Port Vila, confirmed to ABC’s Pacific Beat, and the Vanuatu Daily Post on Thursday that he ...
What’s to blame for the coalition’s choppy start? Six months in, and the mojo meter is in the doldrums. A new poll would put National out of power and sees its leader, Chris Luxon, sliding in popularity. How much is it about policy, how much coalition management and a perception ...
The striking report goes far beyond the proposed repeal of the Oranga Tamariki Act’s Treaty of Waitangi provision, and its impact should be felt far beyond the unique circumstances of the claim it addresses. Earlier this week, the Waitangi Tribunal released an interim report on the government’s proposed repeal of ...
The world has been experiencing a productivity slowdown, from which New Zealand has not been exempt. COVID-19 temporarily boosted labour productivity, but more recently, productivity has retreated. The overall trend since 2007 has been one of slow productivity ...
What’s more wasteful than spending $315k on syrup and machine maintenance? Trying to drum up a controversy about it.Cast your mind back to the pre-pandemic idylls of 2019. A “rat” was a disgusting rodent and not a self-administered plague test; the sixth Labour government was in power; and the ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Kate Fitz-Gibbon, Professor of Social Sciences, Faculty of Arts, Monash University, Monash University Ken stocker/Shutterstock In the wake of numerous killings of women allegedly by men’s violence in 2024, thousands of Australians have joined rallies across the country to demand action ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Henry Cutler, Professor and Director, Macquarie University Centre for the Health Economy, Macquarie University Oleg Ivanov IL/Shutterstock Waiting times for public hospital elective surgery have been in the news ahead of this year’s federal budget. That’s the type of non-emergency surgery ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Konstantine Panegyres, McKenzie Postdoctoral Fellow, Historical and Philosophical Studies, The University of Melbourne Amna Artist/Shutterstock One of the earliest descriptions of someone with cancer comes from the fourth century BC. Satyrus, tyrant of the city of Heracleia on the Black Sea, ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By John Rose, Professor of Sustainable Future Transport, University of Sydney LanaElcova/Shutterstock Electric vehicles are often seen as the panacea to cutting emissions – and air pollution – from transport. Is this view correct? Yes – but only once uptake accelerates. Despite the ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Giselle Natassia Woodley, Researcher and Phd Candidate, Edith Cowan University There is widespread agreement Australia needs to do better when it comes to gender-based violence. Anger and frustration at the numbers of women being killed saw national rallies over the weekend and ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By James Graham, Lecturer in Economics, University of Sydney Mark and Anna Photography/Shutterstock As home ownership moves further out of reach for many Australians, “rentvesting” is being touted as a lifesaver. Rentvesting is the practice of renting one property to live ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Sukhmani Khorana, Associate Professor, Faculty of Arts, Design and Architecture, UNSW Sydney Netflix The new season of Heartbreak High is garnering mixed reviews. Critics are writing about the racy story lines, comparing it to other coming-of-age series about teenage relationships and ...
Bob Carr intends to launch legal action against Winston Peters and Julie Anne Genter is facing a second allegation of bullying. Both sucked the air out of an announcement on education, writes Anna Rawhiti-Connell in this excerpt from The Bulletin, The Spinoff’s morning news round-up. To receive The Bulletin in ...
In 1995, Sally Clark went out on her own in a bold and unorthodox attempt to join an illustrious group of equestrian riders conquering the world. In the days of glovebox road maps, brick cell phones, and the hit song How Bizarre, Clark refused to follow Sir Mark Todd, Blyth ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Ben Beaglehole, Senior Lecturer, Department of Psychological Medicine, University of Otago niphon/Getty Images The number of people accessing medication for attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) in Aotearoa New Zealand increased significantly between 2006 and 2022. But the disorder is still under-diagnosed and ...
To celebrate the start of New Zealand music month, we look back at the best local tuneage that managed to weasel its way into Hollywood productions. There’s nothing quite like the thrilling zap of recognition when New Zealand weasels its way into a glamorous Hollywood production. Crack open a Tui ...
People trust other people more than institutions. So how can the media gain that trust through journalists without losing what’s important about the institution? Anna Rawhiti-Connell reflects on two years of curating the news for The Bulletin.Amonth ago, armed cops descended on my neighbourhood as calls to “lock your ...
A warning – suicide is discussed in this podcast New Zealand’s own long-running soap Shortland Street doesn’t hesitate to kill off its much-loved characters. But would TVNZ dare to kill off our favourite soap? That’s the fear as times get tough in television – even though it’s been pointed out ...
Essay: If the Crown harms children, how do you hold it accountable? Analysis by Aaron Smale in light of the Waitangi Tribunal court decision. The post The Crown versus Māori Children appeared first on Newsroom. ...
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Live stream to Obama’s speech on climate change.
http://live.reuters.com/Event/politics
“Every country has to play its part”.
“it will require all of us….
“Those of us in positions of responsibility will have to less concerned with the worries of special interests…..
“Those of us in positions of responsibility will have to less concerned with the worries of special interests…..”
Jenny, you do realize who spoke those words, don’t you? I presume you are posting this up as satire.
What will be the response of political leaders around the world, and our leaders here, to Obama’s speech?
Will John Key issue a statement in response?
Unlikely
How about David Shearer?
Also unlikely
What about the Greens?
Will the Green Party issue a statement calling on the other two to give a response and make a stand?
Will Obama’s speech be just like a pebble dropped into the ocean, unremarked in this country and around the world?
In the face of this existential threat like no other ever faced by humanity, will business as usual be the unspoken commitment that we will receive from our leaders?
What will be the response of political leaders around the world, and our leaders here, to Obama’s speech?
MEMO JENNY:
Barack Obama is not taken seriously by anyone. He did nothing at all during his first term except spout rhetoric (that impressed Jim Mora at least) but he was too timid or too compromised or too indolent to actually DO anything, whether it was about conservation, or justice in the middle east, or anything at all. Now, barely six months into his second term, this ineffectual and empty poseur is already a lame duck.
Why are you urging people to flog this dead horse?
Yours mixed metaphorically,
Morrissey
Not sure exactly what you were expecting Obama to achieve when he was saddled with an incredibly partisan and frankly insane republican majority in the house.
Also he did get the health reforms through – a shadow of what they needed to be, but an achievement none-the-less.
No one gets to be pressie without being in the belly of the US imperialist beast.
On May 9 2012 in an ABC interview Obama said “…I think same-sex couples should be able to get married.” This reverberated around the world. The gay marriage movement in this country had been bubbling along gaining litle traction until then, Obama’s comments made a huge impact here – Bob McCroskie launched his anti-gay marriage a month later, and the entire thing was done and dusted here within eleven months of Obama’s comments. Since then I think eight or so countries have legalised gay marriage and it has become a major issue again in many others.
So it is total hogwash no one takes seriously the US President in general or Obama in particular. Just because you don’t like him doesn’t mean he isn’t important. People take him seriously all over the world, even his corrupt congress does – it just spends it time opposing him, that is all.
Jenny, you realise that Obama is controlled by various industry, right!
Such as the oil/gas industry, the nuclear industry, you get that eh!
Yes or No?
I’m pretty sure it’s actually the NBA, Moz.
Not that long ago you would have been ridiculing people for suggesting that the NSA was spying on everyone..
Food for thought?
Get out of my head!
🙂
What ever you think of President Obama, muzza, and Morrissey, (and from your comments, it doesn’t sound like much). President Obama has made a statement strongly supporting doing something about climate change and encouraging others around the world to rise to the challenge also.
Muzza/Morrissey I think you are both missing the point I was making. (and I suspect deliberately)
Will Obama’s challenge be ignored by our political leaders here?
Will they, (and I mean any of them) even acknowledge Obama’s speech?
Will any of them, and I mean any of them, come out in support of Obama and suggest that we need to go even go further?
Or are they still determined to continue on as if they can afford to ignore this issue?
And lastly, muzza and Morrissey, is your attack on Obama’s credibility just an excuse to provide political cover for those parties here who wish to do nothing?
Voter support for Labour and its leader, David Shearer, has slumped in the latest Herald-DigiPoll survey. Audrey Young in the Hersld today.
The party has lost 5.5 percentage points since March, and Mr Shearer is down 6.1 points as preferred Prime Minister.
National’s support has barely moved and it is still polling high at 48.8 per cent of decided voters.
Prime Minister John Key is preferred Prime Minister for 65.2 per cent, up 2.6 points on his last rating.
If the poll were translated to votes, National would not be able to govern alone.
Either National or Labour would be able to form a government.
But Labour would need four other parties, and National would have more options including being able to form a government with only New Zealand First support, only Maori Party support, or support from Act and United Future.
Mr Shearer has been Labour leader for a little over 18 months, after beating former finance spokesman David Cunliffe in a contest involving the party membership.
Today’s poll could put added pressure on Mr Shearer’s leadership, which has been attracting stronger criticism lately from the remnants of Mr Cunliffe’s support on the left than from the right.
Mr Key has taken to taunting Mr Shearer in Parliament about being under the control of deputy leader Grant Robertson.
But more voters see Mr Cunliffe as a successor should Mr Shearer no longer be in contention.
Asked who would be best to replace Mr Shearer if he left politics, 31.8 per cent supported Mr Cunliffe and 16.7 per cent Mr Robertson.
The dark horse is Andrew Little, a first-term list MP and former national secretary of the Engineering, Printing and Manufacturing Union, who had 13.5 per cent support as a possible replacement.
Eleven per cent wanted someone else and 27 per cent did not know or refused to say.
Among Labour supporters, 37.7 per cent supported Mr Cunliffe if Mr Shearer weren’t there, 19 per cent Mr Robertson and 14 per cent Mr Little.
Labour’s party vote support appears to have gone to New Zealand First and the Greens.
New Zealand First’s support rose above the 5 per cent threshold, and support for Winston Peters as preferred Prime Minister is up from 4 per cent to 6.4 per cent.
Party vote figures in the poll are: National 48.8 (up 0.3), Labour 30.9 (down 5.5), Greens 10.5 (up 1.5), NZ First 5.1 (up 2.6), Maori Party 1.8 (up 0.7), Mana 0.5 (no change), United Future 0.3 (up 0.3) and Act 0.2 (up 0.1). The Conservatives gained 2.65 per cent of the vote at the last election but no MPs polled 1.5 (up 0.2).
Support for Mr Shearer rose in March to 18.5 per cent when National was mired in issues such as the failure of the Novopay pay system for teachers, the Solid Energy crisis and the partial sale of Mighty River Power.
Since the last poll, the Government has lost list MP Aaron Gilmore and passed its Budget, but a lot of the political focus since then has been on United Future leader Peter Dunne.
Mr Dunne resigned as a minister as the chief suspect in the leak of a confidential report.
Party vote results and preferred Prime Minister results are of decided voters only.
On the party vote questions, 11.9 per cent of poll respondents were undecided.
NZ First ratings edge up
The biggest movements in the latest Herald-DigiPoll survey are among older voters. And it appears New Zealand First has had a boost at the expense of Labour.
Overall, Labour has fallen from 36.5 per cent in the March poll to 30.9 per cent in the June poll published today. NZ First has risen from 2.5 per cent in March to 5.1 per cent now, based on the poll of 750 respondents.
Labour has gone from having a high level of support among the 65 and over voters in March – 40.5 per cent compared to its overall party vote of 36.1 per cent – to just 28.2 per cent.
Among the younger age group, 18 to 39, the Green Party has disproportionate support, but that is evident in most polls.
Last time 54.8 per cent of men supported National and 42.4 per cent of women, compared to 48.5 per cent overall. This time 49.9 per cent of men and 47.7 per cent of women supported National, which has 48.8 per cent overall.
As preferred Prime Minister, David Shearer is supported by 12.4 per cent overall but by 15.2 per cent of women and 9.6 per cent of men. In March he had 18.5 per cent and even support from men and women.
John Key is on 65.2 per cent and has almost even support of men and women.
Herald-Digipoll
Party vote
• National – 48.8% (up 0.3)
• Labour – 30.9% (down 5.5)
Preferred PM
• John Key – 65.2% (up 2.6)
• David Shearer – 12.4% (down 6.1)
Maybe Shearer should listen to President Obama and pull his head out of the Sand over climate change. Shearer needs to heed Obama’s call for other nations to play their part, and publicly announce that an incoming Labour administration will stop all new coal projects, and all other extreme hydrocarbon extraction plans like fracking and deep sea oil.
As for the Nacts. They need to be strongly condemned in every forum, for being as Obama says only concerned for the concerns of special interests.
Maybe then Shearer might be recognised as a leader.
Until then, Shearer and the party he leads will remain unrecognised unknown, and in the public mind sullenly silent and negative.
If this doesn’t spell out clearly to Shearer supporters that we have a serious problem then nothing will. (Well maybe a bad result in Ikaroa Rawhiti will compound).
Changes need to be made, perhaps some more deadwood need to be sent packing at the same time as Shearer loses his Leadership. It is not too late. There is NO WAY Shearer has what it takes to roll Key in 2014 (Currently there is a huge VOID in leadership in Labour), Shearer supporters need to swallow their pride and give Cunliffe a chance.
To work this needs to be driven by Shearer and Robertson factions…..if they have the maturity and foresight to do this then Labour has a chance of winning in 2014, otherwise roll on 2017, 3 more years of New Zealand moving towards the extreme Right.
For the long term health of the Labour party, National needs to win the next election.
That way Mallard , King, Goff and the rest of the bludging relics can be given the boot and replaced with fresh faces.
Shearer winning the next election would be the end of Labour.
yes but this National party is hopeless, if it wasn’t for Chch, the economy would have tanked.
I agree that some of the deadwood needs to be cleaned out, but unlike some on TS I actually quite like Labour’s Policies, the problem is the Leadership…its non existent and it has a complete inability to sell itself.
THIS IS FAR AND AWAY LABOURS BIGGEST ISSUE AND IT NEEDS TO BE SORTED.
Totally agree with all you say, Saarbo!!
Sadly Mallard has no where to go so will go no where, if he had any honor he would have quit after managing Labours worst election result in recent history. He cuts a sad old grumpy figure from the second row, grasping at past glories and taking up space that should be filled with newer blood. A more accurate example of ‘deadwood’ is hard to find.
Jane – Mallard will hang on in there – he wants to be Speaker, doncha know ! and he thinks Shearer is the way to get there. More fool him !
Mallard – “Honour”? – it’s not about him , but what’s best for New Zealanders.
It’s thoroughly depressing that the main opposition party plays personality politics while the country goes down the gurgler, and democracy with it.
And that goes for the rest of Team Shearer-Robertson.
I agree that Labour winning 2014 is more likely to do the party harm than help them, at least under Shearer’s leadership (and the team that put him there).
But the left will keep on trucking, even if Labour falls behind.
The problem with labour is a lot more than just Shearer,
No direction. stuck in the dark ages. Borrow and spend policies. Playing second fiddle to the Greens. In bed with the unions.
Some of those you might think are OK (like the union bit) – but you forget that people outside of your core voters dont like them – and dont want NZ run by a party with its stings pulled by unions.
Upshot – The general man in the street dosnt like Labour or what it seems to stand for these days.
And this is reflected in the polls. Its not just the man in front (even the best salesman has trouble shifting a fundamentally broken product)
I know that you will disagree. That’s OK – keep relying on – its a rouge, biased because only calling land lines, if you look at the trends … blagh blagh blagh. you all know better – Im a tit as I dont agree with you etc. You know the usual excuses you come up with on other threads.
Labour is a conflicted party, still wounded by neo liberalism. Even a return to Norm Kirk style policies would make the LP look like revolutionaries. Green and Mana are the future for the parliamentary left unless the LP has a few retirements v.soon.
Social democracy is enough of a dead end ideology anyway without the bumbling equivocation of David Shearer.
“Labour is a conflicted party, still wounded by neo liberalism”
“Labour is a conflicted party, its power-holders still deeply wedded to neo liberalism”
fify.
best comment of yours I’ve read James (ruse).
Yes we all know you find unionism heretical James. On a par with the witches of Salem blah blah blah.
Beats me how any rational person can endorse lawful free association in service of shared common interest in all other areas of our nation’s existence, yet carp on like a psychotic Alf Garnett when the same is engaged by workers in their shared common interest.
It is you who lives in the dark ages James and whine as you might, it will take more than an obsessive union-hater to take us back there. Yes, we know the World is flat. And if it’s not it bloody well should be !
You can’t see or hear your irrelevant ranting James. Everyone else (emabarrassed for you) can. Grow up !
Goodbye West Coast and New Plymouth.
New Plymouth is lost to Labor. Cuddling up to Greens in energy land while parachuting Andrew “do a runner” Little as candidate for last election both bad mistakes and will not be forgotten.
ha ha, like when the west coast disappeared when the native logging was stopped in its tracks gosman?
history man, learn your history
Funny how their comments expose their fears, eh?
Feck.
If the drums arn’t beating for a leadership spill then there is no life left in the Labour caucus.
I think I might have another media BBQ on the first sunny weekend. David Cunliffe invited again. He should show up this time.
The Labour Party did not benefit from attending your Auckland BBQs in the past. Cheap sausages and good champagne should not be mixed.
It is time for Labour to close ranks againt those who want Key to continue in power, e.g. Hooton, Armstrong and Sullivan.
LEC’s and Branches and Union meetings are the place for discusion on the party’s direction.
People make quite different decisions when they are sober Matthew, alcohol impairs judgement.
Drunk media chose Shearer….
Best if everyone stays off the piss this time.
None of Hooton’s mates can handle their drink anyway. Bunch of lightweights.
Certainly Shearer seemed to be most coherent and articulate that day …
Come on Hooton, do you honestly expect that people believe your tripe that your band of merry men and women did their utmost to support Shearer for the good of the Labour party?
Jesus wept. If you expect people to swallow that one I’ve got an igloo to sell you next to your Dear Leader’s house in Hawaii..
Well given that a week ago he was insisting that he never had anything to do with Shearer, I think it’s safe to say no; he doesn’t “honestly” expect anything.
Ho…..Matthew Hooton for PM !
Indispensable to our national psyche is the shouty wee paid for oracle with the reptilian smirk.
still dining out Matthew?
heh, hoots has developed a semblance of humour
Being either invisible or just slinging shit impresses no one.
Shearer isn’t a prime ministers arsehole, it’s about time he realizes that and steps down.
Slinging shit has worked well for Key, so far though. If anything, Shearer is not indulging in slinging shit often enough.
You keep believing that.
The only time I see Shearer on TV is when he’s all worked up and telling every one what a crappy job John Key and National are doing.
Needs too be a lot more positive, you’ll never win being a divisive moaning wanker.
Agree. Shearer never seems able to come out with a strong, decisive statement – and that is his major failing.
Comments are always framed around what National is doing, and calls for public inquiries….
He needs to go.
Agree. Shearer never seems able to come out with a strong, decisive statement – and that is his major failing.
Comments are always framed around what National is doing, and calls for public inquiries….
He needs to go.
“Needs too be a lot more positive, you’ll never win being a divisive moaning wanker.” seems to work just dandy for key
The media are paid to tell Key’s side of the argument…
I think Slinging Shit has been the only strategy that Labour have had since Key got in. Following on from these stirling results it has got them nowhere.
However the sun will rise tomorrow and that will be followed by yet another TS post outlining Key as a failure and a liar. So much for the idea that repeating the same behaviour and expecting a different result is a sure fire sign of ……oh wait…..
BM, you wrote “just slinging shit impresses no one.”
Then you said, “isn’t a prime ministers arsehole.”
Your first statement is absolutely on the money.
Dead right BM. That particular arsehole is spoken for. Slavishly liked by the licks of you.
Labour has no idea why its poll performance has been so mediocre. Until it does, playing another round of musical chairs with the leadership is pointless. New captain same sinking ship? Thatll be the second half of Hootens dream come true. Clue – NZ Power should have been just the start, and backing the Greens on some economic and monetary alternatives.
Stand unashamedly for the disadvantaged in society for godssakes, not try and find a “balance”.
Just to pull a name out of the hat, anyone spotted Maryan Street lately? You know, opposing the gutting of the RMA, mining, and the attacks on Auckland by her opposite in government Nick Smith? No, didn’t think so. She is quite useless, and clearly lazy to boot. Still, she is an ex-NZLP bureaucrat and a lesbian woman so that makes her a paid up member of the self-absorbed Labour Wellington political class, which makes her utter uselessness all right I suppose.
If you are beltway senior labour right-wing MP you earn a fat six figure salary to work just as hard as you feel like, you are broadly in agreement with 90% of the governments agenda and 30% in the polls guarantees you and the rest of your faction in control of the parliamentary wing a job for life.
Working hard, and selecting a winning and articulate leadership that gets you over over 40% in the polls just means they newly independent and feisty members might send a whole bunch of n00bs to parliament who will challenge your factions superiority.
Noooooooo to that! It might an opposition MPs office, but it IS an office.
So – crisis? What crisis you talkin’ bout, Willis?
Still, she is an ex-NZLP bureaucrat and a lesbian woman so that makes her a paid up member of the self-absorbed Labour Wellington political class, which makes her utter uselessness all right I suppose.,/i>
What’s sexuality got do to with it?
In contrast, if a heterosexual is performing badly, why is their sexuality rarely mentioned?
it is a symbol of why the NZ public lost faith in the labour government: captured by (sexual) identity politics and nanny-ish interventions, they failed to address social inequality nor restrain the excesses of finance companies
interesting ropata
like, three issues, most of which were private members’ bills, were the reason Labour were too busy to “restrain the excesses of finance companies”?
Nope.
Labour were tired and the people forgot how bad National were at running a country.
No, the *NZ public* were tired of Labour’s (perceived) weird policies, being scolded by Sue Bradford, and Michael Cullen hoarding record govt revenues for a rainy day.
I agree that we forgot how bad National are at governing, but we also have never seen such an efficient marketing apparatus as the one around Key’s natty team, nor have we seen a PM of such charisma since David Lange
Yep Ropata you are on the money. The big issue with the finance industry debacle is that no matter how many people just laugh it off, it has caused massive pain and taken a huge lump of private capital and wealth out of middle NZ. This is exactly the type of capital that we need to be invested in NZ businesses to allow them to grow and employ more.
Christ! – you and I have a very different definition of ‘charisma’. Never mind though – I suspect it’s me that’s out of tune with muddle Nu Zull.
I wonder how krismetic they think John Key is now though – if they weigh up all the lying and bs.
furthermore, commentary in the street has been how the Greens would not have a bar of Sue’s failure to fall in line, or vice versa.
😉
“it is a symbol of why the NZ public lost faith in the labour government: captured by (sexual) identity politics”
All politics are identity politics. Some of us are just more honest about it.
It’s called careerist politicians.
I’d like to know what her sexuality has to do with anything as well. What about that useless heterosexual man, Trevor Mallard?
So Labour are still going to carry the millstones that are Shearer, Robertson, and Mallard into the next election. How many points does it take to drop before they have a clean out? 10? 20?
Who cares?
Labour are bygones.
– Stuff
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Shearer has had his chance. Someone else needs to take the leadership. I was originally Team Cunliffe, and he’s still my preferred choice, but I’d accept Robertson, Little, even Goff at this stage.
David Shearer will never be Prime Minister.
Basically, yes. Although I think Cunliffe should probably be somewhere on the front bench instead of backbench Siberia.
However my fear is that Shearer says no change not because that’s what he wants, but because the entire senior team is truly compassless and has no idea what to do differently. Maybe give them another 6 months?
PS its a real easy formula for Labour to win, stand unashamedly for the disadvantaged and the struggling. And ditch some of the more onerous neo liberal and monetary constraints this nation is subservient to.
CV +1 particularly like your summation.
I suspect that this is not a drop at all but that the last Herald poll, which had Labour rising, was rogue.
The bad news for Labour is that this would mean that they have made no headway at all.
What you are really suggesting is that all Herald polls are shit and no-one should take the slightest notice of such rubbish,
The right in desperation at the true nature of National’s vote, in my opinion 42-43.5%, are now flogging NZFirst simply because no matter how thick they are they now realize they have no other option left to gain a third term in 2014…
You have an opinion of the level of National’s support? Why didn’t you say so before? We can stop all this bothersome polling every three months and just ask bad12 what his or her opinion of the support of each party is. Actually, when you think about it, why bother with elections.
Wevvilybiscuit
Fancy you as opinionated as you are, castigating bad12 for that. I presume you don’t mean that we should step down in favour of bad12 as dictator. Though the opinions offered sound sound. Perhaps you haven’t any points to argue so are merely doing more of the s..t throwing that is the last resort of those facing being disproved.
lprent
When I submitted my last comment above I got the rolling ball showing that it was being processed and then I got the connection cut – service closed message on the site page. So I pressed back arrow and got back onto TS page, went to Home and updated page and found that my comment had gone through. This was a bit confusing though.
Also I notice a few duplicate comments going through. Usually if I mistakenly press twice I get a message advising that so don’t get that.
Yawn….
I am not sure your recipe is a good one, CV. After all, Labour is lefter now than they have been since 1975 and the voters demonstrably hate it.
Nonsense. The fact that a couple of vague nods to social responsibility looks so “left” (to you and John Key) just shows how deeply stuck in the right wing status quo they are.
Also, voters don’t hate Labour. We’re just not interested in Labour because they offer nothing different, especially to those who most need something different.
Well, if the voters are not responding to Labour because they are not left enough, why are Mana not enjoying that support?
Well actually I didn’t say they aren’t “left enough”, I said they aren’t offering anything different. And I don’t think your idea of of “left” has much to do with my idea of “different”.
But seeing as you went there, Hone’s majority is more than 1000 votes. Over Labour.
…in one electorate.
Correct. The one he campaigned in.
…in one electorate.
That makes two, counting the one you mentioned above…
So, is your position that the Mana Party is more electorally popular than the Labour party?
certainly ‘more popular’ up Gizzy and Wairoa ways, listening to the kumara vine.
So, remind me, do votes cast outside Gizzy and Wairoa count in a general election?
only concentrating on one byelection at a time my friend.
Introducing Mana into this argument is ridiculous Gormless and you know it.
I don’t see why, North. Lots of people here seem to think Labour are so electorally unpopular because they are not left enough. But the parties to the left of them are even less popular, so that can’t be right.
Parties to the left of Labour are not unpopular with their growing constituency base GF; conflation methinks you display for one so ‘perceptive’. There is a grassroots movement underfoot, oh, that’s Right, you have not been following the increased surveillance debate…/
Well, of course they are not unpopular with the people who support them, but that’s a bit of a shit argument. Kyle Chapman’s political movement is popular with the people who support it as well. Folk dancing is popular with the people who support that, as well. Doesn’t mean it is popular in the populace as a whole.
According to the Digipoll, Colin Craig’s bunch of fuck heads enjoy three times the level of support of the Mana Party.
Crikey you’re right Gormy! Kyle Chapman’s Onanist Party has far fewer members than Labour!
This is conclusive proof that voters are staying away from Labour because they’re further to the right than they’ve ever been before.
etc etc.
I know you understand that this is not the point I was making Felix. Why are you pretending to be dumb?
It’s exactly the same point. I just compared them to a right wing party instead of a left wing one.
The idiocy of the comparison is identical, and for the same reason.
Why anyone would give an iota of credence to a political poll conducted by or on behalf of the HERALD is beyond me,
There is only one remote possibility of Slippery the PM gaining a third term for this National Government and that is with the support of Winston’s NZFirst,
The wider press have for the past 5 years attempted to sway the electorate by ‘deliberately’ talking down the true % NZFirst enjoyed from the electorate, i used at the 2011 election a specific gambling/poll to correctly judge NZFirst’s support by simply monitoring the % over the months leading up to that election that that particular gambling/poll discounted the NZFirst % back down under the 5% every time that party attained the 5% over a number of months,
THEY are messing with your minds via their polls and i would suggest any left leaning voter who voted for Winston in 2011 seriously think about voting for another party…
its a real easy formula for Labour to win, stand unashamedly for the disadvantaged and the struggling. And ditch some of the more onerous neo liberal and monetary constraints this nation is subservient to.
or, you could be wrong and it puts them further down in the polls.
“…. but because the entire senior team is truly compassless ,,,,”
I’m afraid it’s worse than that CV – they aren’t even a ‘team’
And don’t rely on the corporate media to give you a fair hearing.
Bypass them.
”We’re going to be doing exactly what we are doing now,” Shearer said when asked what difference the poll would make….
This shows his appalling lack of Leadership and disregard for the people that Labour represents, what he should have said is” …this is a worry, New Zealand has never had greater inequality and clearly we are not connecting with the people who need us. We will be doing everything we can do to change this.”
He’s useless, for the sake of the Left he has to let go of the Labour Leadership.
Hear that ducky, kingy, goffy and all you other has beens to comfy in the trough whilst ignoring the wishes of the rank and file.
It’s the sound of inevitability…….the train wreck is coming unless you hand over the controls and sit back quietly whilst the new blood wrests the agenda back and gets the disaffected third back in the polling booths.
Labours best option.
When they are wiped out at the next election the best result New Zealand is a coalition deal with NATIONAL.
Labours best option.
When they are wiped out at the next election the best result New Zealand is a coalition deal with NATIONAL.
Live stream to Obama’s speech on climate change.
http://live.reuters.com/Event/politics
“We are charged with looking after more than the arc of our political careers……
“But this is not just a job for politicians…..
“Make your voices heard…..
Coal is going to be discouraged and many thermal plants shut down. Fracking and nuclear power encouraged. XL tar sands pipeline still a possibility if GHG effects are not “significant”.
LIARS OF OUR TIME
No. 23: Jay Carney
White House spokesman Jay Carney said the U.S. was expecting the Russians “to look at the options available to them to expel Mr. Snowden back to the United States to face justice for the crimes with which he is charged.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/25/edward-snowden-ecuador_n_3493911.html
See also….
No. 22 Mike Bush: “Bruce Hutton had integrity beyond reproach.”
No. 21 Tim Groser: “I think the relationship is genuinely in outstanding form.”
No. 20 John Key: “But if the question is do we use the United States or one of our other partners to circumvent New Zealand law then the answer is categorically no.”
No. 19 Matthew Hooton: “It is ridiculous to say that unions deliver higher wages! They DON’T!”
No. 18 Ant Strachan: “The All Blacks won the RWC 2011 because of outstanding defence!”
No. 17 Stephen Franks: “Peter has been such a level-headed, safe pair of hands.”
No. 16 Phil Kafcaloudes: “Tony Abbott…hasn’t made any mistakes over the past eighteen months.”
No. 15 Donald Rumsfeld: “I did not lie… Colin Powell did not lie.”
No. 14 Colin Powell: “a post-9/11 nexus between Iraq and terrorist organizations…connections are now emerging…”
No.13 Barack Obama: “Simply put, these strikes have saved lives.”
http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-27052013/#comment-638881
No. 12 U.K. Ministry of Defence: “Protecting the Afghan civilian population is one of ISAF and the UK’s top priorities.”
No. 11 Brendan O’Connor: “Australia’s approach to refugees is compassionate and generous.”
No. 10 Boris Johnson: “Londoners have… the best police in the world to look after us and keep us safe.”
No. 9 NewstalkZB PR dept: “News you NEED! Fast, fair, accurate!”
No. 8 Simon Bridges: “I don’t mean to duck the question….”
No. 7 Nigel Morrison: “Quite frankly, they’ve been VERY tough.”
http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-15052013/#comment-633295
No. 6 NZ Herald PR dept: “Congratulations—you’re reading New Zealand’s best newspaper.”
No. 5 Rawdon Christie: “…a FORMIDABLE replacement, it seems, is Claudette Hauiti.” http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-13052013/#comment-632594
No. 4 Willie and J.T.: “The X-Factor. Nah, nah, there’s some GREAT talent there!”
No. 3 John Key: “Yeah we hold MPs to a higher standard.”
No. 2 Colin Craig: “Oh, I have a GREAT sense of humour.”
No. 1 Barack Obama: “Margaret Thatcher was one of the great champions of freedom and liberty.”
Funny but I dont see Ms Klarks name in the top 3 where she should be for (in any order you like) I believe Winston, I didnt notice we were speeding, I painted that.
Who the feck is “Ms Klark” and what did she say she painted?
She’s DavidC’s bogeyperson. The one who makes him wake up hot and wimpering in the night and Mummy runs and guides his little thumby into his frightened little mouthy. And one day he’ll grow up to be a fuckwit ! Poor thing. Always lagging a good 5 years behind everyone else. Though for such a littley he’s very knowledgable re The World’s Greatest Art Heists and the Kaikohe Demolition Derby.
Yeah North, She is everything that Shearer is not!
felix.. maybe you slept thru it…
Ms Klark ruled over Hulungrad … 9 years marred by overspending and election bribes in a bumper time when something should have been left in the public purse..instead we got “I have spent the lot” and a broken trainset.
Ah, so you can’t spell or count. And you make up lies about people.
Funny but I dont see Ms Klarks name in the top 3 where she should be for (in any order you like) I believe Winston, I didnt notice we were speeding, I painted that.
She might well end up on the list, but not for the minor speeding thing or the Paintergate beat-up. It’s a measure of just how lacking in seriousness you are that those two trivialities are all you can think of to denigrate her.
Real footy updates:
Romario (now a socialist politician) on the World Cup’s negative effects: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jun/23/brazil-world-cup-deepen-problems-fifa
Half a century ago, Liverpool Football Club played ‘socialist’ football. Now they’re just another blot on the landscape: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/jun/24/liverpool-houses-landlord
Yes brazil 2014 will be an interesting media event, how many will venture from the sanctuary of the FIFA endorsed hospitality to see the real Brazil and how some new stadiums are in cities with no professional football club.
Watched the 2ecobars recently (excellent ESPN documentary)….no surprise that the head of FIFA is a brazilian with a rainforest full of skeletons.
That is indeed a fine doco, TC.
Major sporting events, leave the host nations with huge debts, so why was Brazil awared the World Cup, and the Olympics, in an unprecedented move?
South Africa: The myths and realities of the FIFA soccer World Cup
http://links.org.au/node/1744
I’m sure you are right that the media contingent will not venture out of the air conditioned suites, except for maybe a spot of police escorted danger tourism to a favela to show how daring they are. However, Brazil in 2014 is still a relatively understandable location. Qatar 2022, on the other hand …
btw, FIFA’s head is the odious Sepp Blatter, who is Swiss. You might have been thinking of the jackboot loving Joao Havelange, his predecessor. I think he still holds the somewhat ironic title of ‘honorary’ president, though.
Constitution Conversation –
Has there been one on The Standard that I have missed? There is still time – through to 31 July. One month and we should be able to come up with some cogent comments.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1306/S00227/submission-deadline-for-constitution-conversation-extended.htm
and
http://www.ourconstitution.org.nz/
and
http://www.ourconstitution.org.nz/New-Zealands-Constitution
Preferred PM
• John Key – 65.2% (up 2.6)
• David Shearer – 12.4% (down 6.1)
For every voter preferring Shearer, there are 5.25 voters who prefer Key.
Four and a half more years of Nats, by which time Judith Collins will be dictator.
Who said, “God is merciful.”
Yes its a good result for NZ but my main worry is that National won’t get a 4th term (although with Labour being such a shambles you can’t rule anything out) which means NZ will miss out on Collins running the country, building on the great work of John Key
John Key has stopped the runaway tanker and righted it and soon it’ll be Collins firmly putting the tanker into full steam ahead…if NZ is lucky, if NZ is unlucky the Greens will cobble together a coilition in 2017 and all the good work done by National will be wasted
Is that why more people have left for Australia during Key’s term than any other government ever?
and also why kiwis are now starting to return
nonsense.
[citation needed]
(There isn’t one: this idiot is dribbling as usual. See table 1 in the link.)
You should have kept your mouth shut and left everyone thinking you were an idiot rather than opening it and proving it.
Don’t worry petal, the left might get a look in around 2017 🙂
I don’t give a shit about the mythical “left” just as I don’t give a shit about the equally mythical “right”. What I do care about is the country that I am leaving my children and if you think that National (or Labour for that matter) are improving the long term prognosis for this country then quite frankly – you’re deluded..
You fullas don’t make any sense.
You denounce the collective approach to everything – and then you embrace the collective approach when it some to your own affiars. e.g. Fonterra, Foodstuffs, pretty much every single coprorate.
Why is that? Why do you say one thing and do another?
Because they’re sociopathic hypocrites?
Winston Smith
Have you always been a greenie?
yes winston,
key is fucking awesome and the sun shines out his sphincter whenever he craps on NZ
like when he increases gst and cuts taxes to the wealthy
and when he flogs off a power company to his rich mates
or when he gives tax breaks to hollywood and casinos but craps on worker rights
what a great guy
“we would love to see wages drop“
The rain falls on both the just, and the unjust.
The real issue with the Herald poll is that it shows Cunliffe twice as popular with voters (both Labour and overall) as Robertson, or anyone else.
It doesn’t matter to ABC how badly Labour are doing. If the price of victory is the guy they hate, then they would prefer a defeat. We can brainstorm “solutions” or “improvements” for Labour all day, all year, but the simple, inescapable fact is … as voters, our priorities are fundamentally opposed to theirs.
We want a change of government, therefore a change in party. They want no change in party – regardless of cost to us. That’s all.
We want a change of government, therefore a change in party. They want no change in party – regardless of cost to us. That’s all.
Exactly. Time for Robertson to call Cunliffe, and decide on what’s best for the country.
“It doesn’t matter to ABC how badly Labour are doing.”
Maybe now it does.
I have no idea what is going on behind the scenes in the Labour caucus. I can only hope and pray they have come to their senses. The Shearer experiment needs to be abandoned ASAP.
It needed to be abandoned a year ago.
Just like the Goff experiment needed to be abandoned a year before it was too late.
Gee, if only we’d all been warning them back then…
Don’t worry about it, Labour can be Nationals junior partner and they’ll have a sniff of power 🙂
You know, those smiley’s don’t lend your comments any relevance.
Desperation= The Herald giving the architect of ‘the gambling harm minimization bill’ column inches to explain His position vis a vis the complete and utter gutting of that piece of legislation by it’s coalition partner Slippery’s National Government,
The Maori Party’s Te Ururoa Flavell needn’t have bothered, explaining the intricacies of being the ‘Lapdog’ of the National Government in such eloquent terms still leaves the Maori Party and Te Ururoa Flavell occupying the seat as ‘Lapdog’ no matter how many or how few the weasel words are that attempt to provide a justification,
Flavell should face the facts, National went behind His back getting Tariana and Pita to accept the gutting of His harm minimization bill and Flavell had to swallow the dead rat once the changes agreed to by His leaders were made,
The ‘harm minimization legislation is in fact a metaphor for the actual gains that the Maori Party have made for their voters and Maori in general after two terms as National’s coalition partner,
Nothing is the consensus among Maori, while the Maori Party gained it’s ‘slush fund’ in Whanau Ora, Maori who use tobacco products paid for this with increased taxes,
There is no Mana in the Maori Party and Flavell must now know that He is ‘Owned’ by National MP’s only too happy to laugh in His face even doing so on National TV,
Te Ururoa should now negotiate with Hone Harawira to bring His electorate into the Mana Party as being the ‘leader’ of nothing after the 2014 election will leave Him with none whatsoever,
Mana that is….
Whenever Shearer is on the telly there is a bearded fulla right behind him. Who is this masked man?
He’s Shearer’s five o’clock shadow distractor.
lol
Brighter Future update:
June 26, 2013
Media Release
NZ Post cuts 500 mail processing jobs
New Zealand Post has told staff it intends to close its Waikato, Wellington, Dunedin and heartland mail processing centres at a cost of 500 jobs.
The plan will result in 130 job losses in Waikato, 160 in Wellington, 75 in Dunedin and 125 in heartland and satellite sites.
New Zealand Post has indicated there is potential for 250 new full time equivalent roles in its Auckland, Manawatu and Christchurch mail centres, but predicts fewer than 5% of people affected by the cuts will relocate.
EPMU postal industry organiser Joe Gallagher says the announcement is devastating news for workers and their communities.
“There are a lot of people deeply fearful for their futures today. This is not a good time to find yourself on the dole queue and in the current environment it’s going to be very hard to get another job with secure hours and good rates of pay.
“We’re going to work with New Zealand Post to ensure everyone who loses their job receives their full redundancy entitlements and assistance finding new employment, but the reality is that won’t be enough.
“The Government really needs to step up to the plate here by making jobs its number one priority. People need to have some decent alternatives when they find themselves out of work and at the moment the jobs just aren’t there.”
Mr Gallagher says the union will continue to challenge cuts to New Zealand Post’s services, which also include a proposal to reduce postal delivery to three days a week and replace post offices with kiosks.
“We recognise New Zealand Post faces considerable commercial pressures and that some degree of change is inevitable, but we’re not convinced service cuts on this scale are justified.
“There are some serious questions about the figures these proposals are based on and we’ll be taking this up with the company and with the Government.”
So the union thinks the tax payer should subsidize NZ post, why?
Dunno.
Maybe because the taxpayers subsidise dairy farmers?
Maybe because the taxpayers subsidise the NZX?
Maybe because the taxpayers subsidise businesses who make money by capital gain?
maybe because the taxpayers subsidised Steven Joyce’s ex-company Mediaworks?
Why do they do this BM?
No business should be subsidized by the tax payer.
Hobbit hater.
Not at all. There is a difference between the state forgoing a tax (Warners) and using taxes taken to subsidise a failing business (NZ Post).
I hardly ever use post to my home any more – the effect of dropping a few days deliveries has no negative effect on me. A negative effect on the postie? No doubt at all but using that argument there should be deliveries 4 times a day and twice on the weekends (at time and a half). We don’t have lamppost lighting men or night soil men any more either and I am afraid that the postie is going the same way. The model is not viable in this day and age and keeping it as a public good (which I agree with) can only go so far.
Yes, dead right there’s a difference. Warners is a foreign company with no links to NZ other than via the liar Jackson’s wallet who got a whopping wedge of payola for no logical reason at all and NZ Post is a profitable NZ owned company that interacts with most kiwis most days and provides a service that will still be needed for generations to come in some form or other.
Are you arguing that NZ would have been better off if the Hobbit was made elsewhere? Sorry don’t answer that as it is not the point I was trying to make.
Are you suggesting that NZ Post should be subsidised just because it interacts with most people people most days? Like the night soil men? Should we still have them? Should we ban milk sales in supermarkets to protect the milk deliveries?
It was never going to be made elsewhere. It was always going to be made here. However, what little substance there was to the vague threat was enough to get Key reaching for the cheque book.
NZ Post is not being subsidised. It’s profitable (didn’t I already write this?)
Should post be a business?
IMO, it should be a state service as it once was that way we don’t get the dead weight loss of profit adding to our taxes.
The taxpayer owns NZ Post, BM.
But it’s losing money and dying.
Cuts need to be made so it can survive, fighting these changes causes more harm than good.
Kill the village to save it.
Where did the union say it wanted a subsidy? It’s simply said it’s challenging the figures and that the scale of cuts isn’t justified by the decline of mail volume. FFS, you people need to learn to read.
Holy crap that is bad news. Why bother with a nation state if you just sack everyone? Last person with a proper job please turn out the lights. The natz still want to keep the spooks, coppers and Army on tho.
30.9% spin away, guys.
“If the poll were translated to votes, National would not be able to govern alone.
Either National or Labour would be able to form a government.”
Day One through to Day 900 Tory attack: this cobbled together Labour minority government has no mandate to govern.
Well to be fair Labour do say that National has no mandate on well anything really…
When Labour greens mana Maori Winston first do finally cobble together a coalition ( sit down and watch the fun) it will be an interesting side show to watch the government of the damned hold themselves to the same standard they have demanded from National the prior 12 or 15 years.
I think the left are missing the point completely. NZ will not stand for the policies that Labour and the greens promote. These policies have very much frightened the horses. But I am received that Shearer is not going to change a thing ( how could he – that would take some doing against the factionalised Labour Party.)
NZ will not stand for the policies that Labour and the greens promote.
So why does Key keep pinching them?
Good point gs (a 1000+ bored out with aYoshimura kit; takes it to 1145,or there-abouts).
“When Labour greens mana Maori Winston first do finally cobble together a coalition ( sit down and watch the fun)”
Will it be anything like the fun of watching the cobbled-together National/Act/UnitedFuture/MaoriParty coalition fall apart in disgrace?
‘cos that’s been kinda cool.
Yeah try forming a government when you have 30.9 percentage.
Easy. LP+Greens+NZF in any combination of Government coalition or just confidence and supply. And do bear in mind that this is the Herald, not exactly the paragon of accuracy. Every percentage point Labour get above Granny’s figure is a nail in Key’s coffin.
As I’ve said before, the only poll that even comes close to being accurate is the Roy Morgan. The function of the others is to convince Labour supporters not to vote.
Heres your problem, Russell Norman siad he wont be in any coalition with nzfirst.
Then you have the fact that the greens always poll higher than they get. You have national and the maori party, thats all they need. a party with cant become government.
Her’s your problem, you are full of s**t, give us a link to anywhere Russel Norman has said he will not enter a coalition Government that NZFirst are part of…
TRP of course Labour will be able to form a govt with 30.9%. Which position will Labour give to the Greens? Deputy PM + Economic Development or Finance?
Nah, everyone will be so stoked to prop up the glorious leadership of Shearer that they won’t want anything in return but the radiated brilliance.
Yep going with that, felix. Serenity Now!
My mind is boggling. It’s never actually ever boggled before.
“Yeah try forming a government when you have 30.9 percentage.”
Brett, I know this is going to be lost on you, but can you explain how National is going to form a government with less than 50% and no partners?
Big day over the ditch. Two independents, Oakshott and Windsor, have just announced their retirements at the next election. Neither will support a Rudd led Government for the rest of the term if Gillard loses to him tomorrow, so, if she does get rolled, expect a vote of no confidence from the Liberals immediately and an election in a month.
http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/the-pulse-live/politics-live-june-26-2013-20130626-2ovyx.html
Today’s wonderful poll resuls for Labour and Mr Shearer. Yes, yes, yes.
New Zealand waste policies stuck in the past
This is so true. Absolutely nothing should be going to landfills as it should all be recycled and if it can’t be recycled then it shouldn’t be on the market.
NZ…stuck in the past. FIFY
Well, yes.
QT 25.6
Q.6. Parker- according to the ANZ analysis, the domestic-centric balance of growth is not sustainable.
Q.8. “more (oversight) with less resources will be rquired to police migrant exploitation”-Darien Fenton.
Q.10. Amy Adams (felt unwell just watching her) – “not a good idea for local councils to be regulating GMO’s under their plans” (Northland and Auckland councils putting in protections; Adams swooping in to over-ride). NAct have a GMO-promoting agenda (productivity gains in sight).
moving Right along…, 1000’s of the elderly are being scammed out of millions per year; fear and embarrassment preventing declaration of foolishness. “Names” of the gullible are placed on “suckers lists”; no understanding, what did they learn through the course of their lives?
Regional Council admits the vulnerability of Wellington to Nature, you don’t say, well, blow me away with a feather!.
“NZ Land Transport are fueling the housing crisis” Surprise surprise!
NZ is ranked worst out of 33 OECD countries for the earning potential of University graduates, realising a mere 18% premium above secondary school leavers.
Cruel is the strife of brothers- Aristotle.
Your Decision
And once you take out student loan repayments out of each paypacket, I bet the number worsens for young grads even more.
Dr Cullen has managed to do for NZ post what he did for NZ
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/8843355/NZ-Post-shuts-mail-processing-centres
Or it could just be commercial operations declining due to more and more use of electronic messaging.
NZ Post used to be a respected operation, which has been run into the ground. with or without digital mail, its been slide created by inept/corrupt management, directors!
Yep, just imagine what he would have done to the horse buggy whip and whalebone corset industries if he’d been put in charge of them!
Well, shouldn’t we be having an inquiry into the decline of the mail business and make recommendations to arrest it?
Nope, it’s obvious that snail mail is on the way out. Industry, on the other hand, should be increasing with NZ producing more and more from our own resources.
Good Labour policy would protect a few hundred jobs a year using millions of tax payers dollars. Think of being able to go into an election saying unemployment is low…. Very popular thing to do and well worth bankrupting the country for the popularity of the red team…
A few hundred jobs for a few million tax payers dollars is cheap as chips.
It could be illegal to send more than 8 emails per day. That’d fix it.
very funny. Best not to send e-mails, and choose broadcast instead.You’d be surprised the ‘replies’ one gets. 😀
Perhaps we could learn from how government protected the railways from road transport competition. Make it illegal for eMail to get to the destination faster than snail mail. That little “protectionist” law kept about 15,000 employees in safe jobs in the railways… Protecting a dysfunctional pit for tax payers dollars because it was a state owned monopoly….
CV
Yes … The wagon wheel business could still be making beautifully crafted wooden wheels for horse drawn carts keeping those jobs alive and keeping the ‘Waggon wheel makers’ union happy. Imagine the fun we could have building them breaking them down for a few million each year protecting those jobs that were going to be lost 60 years ago….
Waggon wheels come in handy, when push come to shove.
Actually, that seems to be National Party policy.
The subsidies for LOTR were apparently bigger than for the Hobbit – guess they got Dear Leader a photo opp with PJ – so it was worth it.
Shit, that must be confusing for you mate.
And burt comes back with the old but Labour did it too whinge. Yes burt, they’ve both been doing it and it’s something that’s been done for centuries. Capitalism isn’t the massive engine of progress that you and others seem to think – it runs on government subsidies. Without them it’d crash and burn.
BTW, burt, this government increased the subsidies specifically for The Hobbit.
…and how Burt just lervs a man in a whalebone corset!
Anyone seen the latest Stuff poll? Says it all really – and sizable response too
Wrong leader, wrong direction
2028 votes, 58.2%
Wrong leader, right direction
497 votes, 14.3%
Right leader, right direction
379 votes, 10.9%
Too hindered by infighting
579 votes, 16.6%
Total 3483 votes
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/8842669/Shearer-fends-off-poll-slump
Meaningless drivel, how many of the wrong leader wrong direction voters in this poll were supporters of other party’s…
I voted right leader, right direction because I want him to stay as leader
Moscow doesn’t just have a public train system- it has a public escalator system!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/14/AR2010121406132.html
“movin on up” 😉
…and today’s programme has been brought to you by the letter ‘A’, and the number ’11’
(Oscar is definitely not a prince in waiting).
“Alienation: A psychological or social evil, characterised by one or another type of harmful separation, disruption or fragmentation, which sunders things which belong together. people are alienated from the political process when they feel separated from it and powerless in relation to it; this is alienation because in a democratic society you belong in the political process, and as a citizen it ought to belong to you.
Reflection on your beliefs, values or social order can also alienate you from them. It can undermine your attachment to them, cause you to feel separated from them, no longer identified with them, yet without furnishing anything to take their place; they are yours ‘faute de mieux’, but no longer truly yours: they are yours, but you are alienated from them.
Marx derived the terms ‘Entdusserung’ and ‘Entfremdung’ from Hegel, who used them to portray the ‘unhappy consciousness’ of the Roman world and the Christian Middle Ages.
Marx used essentially the same notion to portray the situation of modern individuals- especially modern wage labourers- who are deprived of a fulfilling mode of life because their life-activity as socially productive agents is devoid of any sense of communal action or satisfaction and gives them no ownership over their own lives or their products. In modern society, individuals are alienated in so far as their common essence, the actual cooperative activity which naturally unites them, is powerless in their lives, which are subject to an inhuman power- created by them, but separating and dominating them instead of being subject to their united will.
This is the power of the ‘market’, which is ‘free’ only in the sense that it is beyond the control of it’s human creators, enslaving them by separating them from one another, from their activity, and from it’s products.
The verbs ‘entaussern’ and ‘entfremden’ are reflexive, and in both Hegel and Marx alienation is always fundamentally ‘self’-alienation.Fundamentally, to be alienated is to be separated from one’s own essence or nature; it is to be forced to lead a life in which that nature has no opportunity to be fulfilled or actualized.
Your life objectively actualizes your nature, especially (for both Marx and Hegel) your life with others as a social being on the basis of a determinate course of historical development.
Their view that alienation, so conceived, can nevertheless have historical consequences, and even be a lever for social change, clearly invokes some sort of realism about the human good: it makes a difference, psychologically and socially, whether people actualize their nature, and when they do not, this fact explains waht they think, feel and do, and it can play a decisive role in historical change.
Althusser to follow.
“Gather round ma’s knee
To read this weeks letter
I wonder what will be
I hope the news is better
The men die here like flies ma”
Rachel’s Coming Home
Hollywood, and Sky, watch slingshot closely
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10893125
ha, ha, mud, (or a stone) in your eye.
More laughing and sneering at dissidents
Inanity rules, as usual, on The Panel
Radio NZ National, Wednesday 26 June 2013
Jim Mora, Dita De Boni, Chris Wikaira
JIM MORA: All right, it’s Susan Baldacci with what the woooooorld’s talking about! What have you got for us today?
SUSAN BALDACCI: Someone who’s name is on the lips of virtually EVERYBODY is Edward Snowden.
DITA DE BONI: Oh yes? He he he he he!
MORA: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
SUSAN BALDACCI: Yeeeeeessss, well this guy is the new JETSET TRAVELLER!
MORA: Hur hur hur hur hur!
SUSAN BALDACCI: Well, people have been asking how the heck he DOES it!
DITA DE BONI: Yes! I’ve been asking that!
MORA: He’s like a ghost!
DITA DE BONI: Apparently he didn’t even need a passport to get into Russia!
SUSAN BALDACCI: No, well that’s just it, you see. You only need a passport if the country you are entering DEMANDS one. That’s how so many refugees manage to get into countries after they have destroyed their documents.
DITA DE BONI: What is the advantage for Ecuador in taking this guy?
MORA: Arrrgghh, they’re just thumbing their nose at the world.
SUSAN BALDACCI: Yeah. Otherwise why would they take Julian Assange?
DITA DE BONI: Exactly.
MORA: They’re staking out a position in South America.
DITA DE BONI: Exactly!
MORA: Okay, moving on. You’ve got something about Stephen Fry?
SUSAN BALDACCI: Yes, he has written about how extremely depressed he gets sometimes.
MORA: He always seems, to me, to live a gilded life. He’s erudite, he’s witty, he’s clever, he’s just so admired.
DITA DE BONI: [slowly, to indicate great seriousness] I think he struggles with being gay.
SUSAN BALDACCI: I think he’s a tortured soul.
DITA DE BONI: When he came out, it wasn’t so cool you know? It wasn’t so hip, you know?
….[Awkward silence]….
MORA: Mmmmmkayyy… Okay, Susan Baldacci, what else have you got?
SUSAN BALDACCI: Well, there’s a new survey has found the best places for a tertiary education. They are, number one: CANADA.
MORA: Canada! Hmmmmm.
SUSAN BALDACCI: Number two is ISRAEL.
MORA: Israel, yes.
SUSAN BALDACCI: Japan was third.
MORA: Japan was third?
SUSAN BALDACCI: [clearly irritated] Y-y-y-y-yes. The United States was fourth. And fifth was… NEW ZEALAND! Sixth was South Korea, seventh the U.K., eighth was Australia, and Ireland was next.
….[Stunned silence for several seconds]…..
DITA DE BONI: I am really shocked by that. New Zealand at number FIVE?!!??!?!?
MORA: The Australians are annoyed, aren’t they….
et cetera, et cetera, ad absurdum, ad nauseam….
now, that is very funny Morrissey, but wait, a song hearkens…
Oh my word, what does it mean
won’t you please read my signs, be a Gypsy.
Love To All On The Left.
Morrissey. We are so fortunate that we do not have to listen to Newstalkzb, Radio Live, the National Programme from dawn to dusk. We have you. (transcripts and all). Keep up the good work, especially the ever growing listings of liars and deceivers. However, I hope you were able to appreciate that there was fog, drizzle, and occasional sunshine over Auckland today.
I hate to have to keep repeating this, but Moz’s efforts are not transcripts. They are his half remembered impressions of what was said. Other than the names, most of what he claims above bears little resemblance to what was actually said, or the tone in which it was said.
VOR: clearly irritated!
I hate to have to keep repeating this, but Moz’s efforts are not transcripts.
I did not haul out the old BASF tape and insert it into the tape-recorder, no. And no, that was not a sexual metaphor.
They are his half remembered impressions of what was said.
Anyone who listened to that horrible fifteen minutes of inanity yesterday knows that what I wrote is way, way more than “half remembered.”
Other than the names, most of what he claims above bears little resemblance to what was actually said, or the tone in which it was said.
I challenge anyone to dispute seriously that the characters in my little horror script are not simulacra of the principals involved in yesterday’s Panel pre-show segment. Any listener who persevered with listening to them will attest that Dita De Boni really was that shallow, that Susan Baldacci really was that disgusting, and that Jim Mora really was, as always, that special mix of avuncular, cowardly, frivolous, insincere and superficial.
Keep up the good work, especially the ever growing listings of liars and deceivers.
Sadly, Liars of Our Time is a series which seems to have no prospect of ending any time soon. Watch out also for: Dum Quote of the Week, Hall of Hogwash, Humbug Corner, Luvvies on the Loose, The Ouch! File, The Subservience Index, Weasel Watch, Wimp Walloping and Yeah Right.
However, I hope you were able to appreciate that there was fog, drizzle, and occasional sunshine over Auckland today.
That transcript—or, as our friend Te Reo Putake reminds us, that “impression”—was done quickly, by hand, then typed up in a fever. That was the only time I listened to the radio all afternoon. Similarly, I don’t watch much TV, although it might seem like it sometimes.
The state’s right to increase its powers of surveillance and Key’s old chestnut assurance that “if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear”. In an odd way, the Texas legislature has just sent a warning to us all. What is legal today, might not be should a radical change of government take place in the future. A government that could trawl through the googol bytes of data on files and establish that an individual or group were doing things that are suddenly subversive or anti-state in the new administration’s views.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/26/wendy-davis-abortion-filibuster-chaos
Looks like Rudd has taken the Labor leadership. Should probably have been sooner rather than later. Any lessons, NZ Labour Party, huh?
Ballot Results:
Rudd 57.
Gillard 45.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/26/labor-leadership-spill-gillard-rudd-live
57 to 45. Bill Shorten announced just before the ballot he was going with Rudd; that would have been the clincher.
Lesson for NZ? Lets see if Rudd wins the federal election first, eh!
BAIN CASE
3rd Degree tonight must surely settle the question. Robin did it.
The evidence was there from day one and nobody – not the lawyers, not the police, not Karam, not the firearms experts, not anyone who looked at the photos ever noticed it. By the time Robin’s body reached the pathologist the evidence was probably gone, brushed off, but those magazine loading marks on his thumb and forefinger in the crime scene photos are unmistakable.
Pay David the compensation.
Yeah, nah. It’s interesting, but is it provable evidence? We don’t make legal decisions based on TV shows, thankfully. Bear in mind that the show was based around the premise that it proves Robin Bain did it. I’d wait for the responses from the coppers and prosecution before making a judgement. And, if it was David, he could conceivably pressed the magazine to his dead Dad’s fingers about the same time he typed the computer message.
Having said all that, it does beggar belief that his body wasn’t checked more thoroughly.
Yep, true, it’s not conclusive, but it’s the piece of the puzzle I was looking for. I always thought David did it. It’s close enough to the smoking gun for me. It virtually is the smoking gun. It’s never even been raised before. As you say, the next few days and comments from police etc will be interesting.
David could have conceivably done that, but if he had, wouldn’t he have attempted to draw attention to the marks in the 2 pics? They were both widely used in the trials. Will be an interesting few weeks ahead.
That’s along the lines I’m thinking. If he was clever enough to go to that degree of detail to frame his dad, surely he’d have been clever enough to have found a way to nudge his defence team into noticing the marks. They’d be so critically important to the defence case.
Another thought: how come David didn’t spot the marks? He must have stared at those photos for years and he would have seen the same marks on his own hand every time he used the gun.
That’s the thing, TRP. It suggests he’s innocent. The residue stripes happen to anyone loading a magazine after the gun’s been fired, and that one misfires a lot and needed reloading even at the murder scene, but it’s just powder and it rubs off almost straight away just doing anything – people may not even pay it any attention. He just may have never thought of it. If he’d framed his dad he’d have thought of it.
According to the doco, the photos weren’t blown up. The Waikato man who discovered the marks noticed them after the pictures were enlarged considerably.
Yeah. The guy is a businessman and took an interest before the last trial. He was looking at the pics enlarged on his computer screen I think he said. And he used to shoot as a lad on a farm. That’s how he made the connection. The compensation case just got very interesting again.
Be interesting to hear James (was it) McNeish’s response. He was pretty public and on occasion near shrewish in his condemnation of David Bain.
NZ Femme above – yeah, David Bain could have done that number. I mean no one can prove he didn’t but it’s as unlikely as the nonsense someone in the Crown or the police were mouthing off – he or his lawyer or somebody deliberately ballsed things up for the joy of being convicted a murderer, then winning a retrial or an appeal or something ???
Sounds very much Simon Bridges ex-Crown prosecutor to me, viz. bloody ridiculous.
Right. Like you and Arfamo, it makes no sense at all to me either.
“I’m going to spend the next 13 years rotting in jail, sitting on evidence I handily whipped up earlier that could get me off, entirely for shits and giggles.”
Yeah, Nah.
+1000% thank you.