“Three days earlier it was alleged her actions had left bruising to the upper right arm of the staffer, who had been in the role for six days.
The report into the incident found it was “probable” that the employee’s version of events was more likely than the Minister’s.
Whaitiri says there are certain parts of the report she agrees with, but others she “actively continues to challenge”.
“In this country, we have a hierarchy; white men, white women, brown men, brown women, and sometimes brown women have to talk extra loud to be heard,” the MP said.”
So it seems as a “brown woman” you have to physically assault staff and leave bruises in order to be heard.
She was a government minister for goodness sake – I can’t imagine her staff ignoring her because of the colour of her skin.
Jacinda would be a fool to let her back into a ministers role – she is obviously unrepentant for what she did.
‘Whataboutism (also known as whataboutery) is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent’s position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument, which in the United States is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda.When criticisms were leveled at the Soviet Union during the Cold War, the Soviet response would often be “What about…” followed by an event in the Western world.’
Of course you did, James; you “missed” when Key repeatedly assaulted the ponytail-wearing waitress. I sometimes wonder if you’re completely blind (my apologies and sympathies if you are).
So I guess this makes assaulting a staff member and leaving bruises all ok then? Since you seem happy to ignore this (being the subject of the thread and all).
One account had Whaitiri grabbing the staffer. Another had her pushing the staffer.
At least you haven’t extrapolated it to ‘whacking’ or ‘hitting’ as I’ve seen elsewhere. You’ve got it to the semantic purity of ‘assaulted.’
In your world, assaulting, the act of making physical contact, is worse than the the worst verbal abuse. I can momentarily grab someone by the sleeve and yank them and that invites the death penalty. Tormenting staff to any degree for any time until they lose their mind or chuck their job will never equal one fleeting grab.
No it doesn’t but I don’t recall you getting all het up about the ongoing assault that John Key perpetrated on a staff member at a cafe that he frequented.
but i suggest it is best to not be throwing stones when you sit in a glass house.
Sadly, John Key while being the Prime Minister of NZ did harass a young women -to the point of where his wife told him to stop, the girl was in tears and everyone was just at wits end as to what to do with the pair of dry balls called John Key – at her work place and everyone just went yawn, he is the PM and surely that is just a bit of horseplaying there….even tho the young women was not interested at all in horseplaying with the PM. The man, while PM was also filmed fondling the hair of young girls until – again on camera – he was told of by the mother.
Maggy Barry should have stayed with her tomatoes and appropriate companion planting rather then go on to be a Minister who will only be known for harassment of staff – again, just a bit of horseplay right?
So for what its worth, my 2 cents, all of these fuckwits should have been sacked immediately from their jobs.
If you can not comport yourself as a decent human being towards others, go away and stay away. No decent company should have to put up with these losers.
In short, no its not ok if National does it.
As for that women from the Labour Party, sack her. If there is evidence of physical assault, charge her. Done.
So for what its worth, my 2 cents, all of these fuckwits should have been sacked immediately from their jobs.
They need a conviction of assault which carries a maximum term of more then two years which would have them automatically out of parliament and never be able to run for being an MP ever again.
“So it seems as a “brown woman” you have to physically assault staff and leave bruises in order to be heard.”
Not actually what is said or meant, James. It says a lot that you equate the voices of women with violence. It’s almost like you’re scared of women and the things they say.
The telling quote is the one about the hierarchy of power, which I’m sure you agree with 100%, representing, as you do, the top echelon.
You have a very poor understanding of the issues at play. You don’t understand mana for instance and have zero idea of how that influences Māori. You are like a crayon when a fine quill is needed. You not only know little but that wee bit you picked up from the MSM you spin into lies and disinformation – pretty basic troll behaviour and certainly bigoted. You really are a weakling.
Ducking a and weaving Marty but still bs you sprout, there is no defense here, your cultural justification is pathetic Now don’t get all wound up and abusive over this, just chill
James isn’t a Kiwi. He’s an English immigrant and a guest here. Like a lot of older English immigrants, James brings colonial thinking to his every conversation and action and has no concept of Maori as a foundation of New Zealand indentity.
Evidently she grabbed the women by the arm and some minor bruising was inflicted, maybe the staffer is prone to bruising very easily, I don’t think it was a full blown assault as the media made out.
Obviously Meka did not realize her own strength in this incident which was blown right out of proportion ?
She still had no right to touch her and yes she is excusing her behavior by playing the race card.
She needs to stay on the naughty chair till she accepts her behavior was wrong.
I’m at the top 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Classic
At the top of what I’d love to know .
I’ve had Maori bosses 2 I’ve never been the boss of anyone apart from running a docking crew on occasion.
I’m one illness from broke and probably homeless .
Eve n my kiwisaver has turned against me .
Waitiri is levels above me and should/will stay there she just needs to pull her head in and stop being a bully.
Don’t be dense – you’re a white Male aren’t you. Sure you may be at the bottom of that group but you don’t have a clue about groups that SOCIETY oppresses.
Keep working on the understanding Jim. The problem with the majority of Kiwis (and I presume you are or have become), is that there has not been much thinking happening for 20 years or so. Try drinking regular glasses of water, cut down on the tea, coffee and alcohol and apply your mind to what goes on in NZ and look for how the various factions rate for income and opportunity for good jobs.
And who teaches them values of respect for all people – parents? school? the coach of their sports team?
What Meta Whaitiri said was, ” sometimes brown women have to talk extra loud to be heard,”
James reinterpreted that as, “So it seems as a “brown woman” you have to physically assault staff and leave bruises in order to be heard.”
James does this as a matter of course, because it “seems” to him.
“Whaitiri says there are certain parts of the report she agrees with…”
Can you show that she doesn’t agree that “probably” bruising the staffers arm is wrong? You claim she’s attempting to excuse that action; where’s your evidence???
Well, James, may I straighten out a few things for you?
Firstly, I’m not apologising for Whaitiri. If you can show me where I’ve done that, I’d be grateful (and very surprised).
Secondly, this thread is called “Open Mike”. It is not devoted only to the topic of the first comment made here. If I or anyone wants to talk about Key’s ponytail-pulling, they can.
Thirdly, I’m not “fixicated” on anything at all, though it sounds fun.
Fourthly, I’m not minimising Whaitiri actions or statements, you are assuming that I am. I did notice though, that the quote you provided said:
“The report into the incident found it was “probable” that the employee’s version of events was more likely than the Minister’s.” and I reckon I know what “probable” means and it ain’t “certain”, so I’m cautious about taking a concreted stance and notice that you are not so careful.
Fifthly, Maggie Barry’s situation is similar in many ways, but you seem unwilling to comment on it, demanding that the topic of your comment is the only one that can be discussed – that seems odd to me. Why is it that you won’t give your views on someone else topic, James? Barry’s situation as worthy of discussion as Whaitiri’s, surely?
you understand the difference between a thread and a post not.
If you want to start a thread on key – go for it. I’m sure you will get the usuals pile in. But if you are using the “reply” button try to keep it on subject.
James – though you may feel you have the authority to dictate what a person might say on a thread you’ve initiated, you don’t. A moderator here might remind someone to keep on-topic where one is set by them, but Open Mike isn’t such a post. In any case, being lectured by you about thread-jacking is beyond hilarious, so keep it up – you’re good for a laugh today!
James, talk about flogging a dead horse … This subject was done to death here on TS and in the media at the time.
Were formal charges of assault ever laid against Whaitiri? No.
Was she found guilty of assault in a court of law? No.
Has she been punished for possibly bruising a staffer? Yes. On the basis of a review – not a formal trial in a court of law – she lost her ministerial positions and was sent to the back bench.
Does she have a right to continue to dispute parts of the review? Yes. It was not a formal finding by a court of law; she was not given her legal rights to be heard in a court of law, or to appeal. (See below.)
I have worked directly with/for Meka in the public service and detailed that experience here on TS at the time.
As you will note, Meka worked both in the public service at senior levels and in Parliament (eg as a senior adviser to her mentor, Parekura Horomia, when he was Minister of Maori Affairs).
To have then been elected to Parliament herself after Horomia’s death, and then to be appointed to Ministerial positions under the new Government would have been a career pinnacle to Meka.
To then lose those positions on the basis of one incident which was then only investigated internally and not in a court of law (with rights of appeal etc accorded under the latter’s formal judicial processes) would have been devastating to her.
She has paid a heavy price for whatever took place that day – some would say too heavy a price, including not being afforded her rights under sections 24 and 25 of the Bill of Rights Act 1990 (BORA) – the rights of persons charged, and the minimum standards of criminal procedure.
Personally I understand why she may still be questioning the findings of that internal investigation. OTOH, having worked for Meka, I can understand that someone who did not know her and had only worked for her for a day, could misconstrue her. In saying that, in no way do I condone physical assault in any way or any circumstance.
We will probably never know what actually took place. However, we do have another principle in our Bill of Rights Act 1990 that Whaitiri would also have been entitled to if this case had gone to court – that is the principle of double jeopardy under section 26.
Perhaps, in terms of fairness and equality, we – including the media – should be applying this principle to other situations such as this one where the accused has not been given their rights to a court hearing etc under BORA but has nevertheless been found guilty in the court of public opinion and/or by non judicial reviews/investigations AND paid a price for those findings.
Which means that people with the inclinations of James can depict it loud and long as Ms Waitiri ‘giving someone the bash.’
Assault? Insult. Insult to anyone inclined to have intelligent debate about anything in the country. As it stands the James’ of the world have the politician cast for life.
Yes, James – I absolutely believe in such principles being applied to everyone – regardless of race, religion, gender, colour etc including political beliefs and leanings.
Well said veutoviper. This was your area of expertise in the Public Service and I suspect your knowledge of this topic is far greater than anyone else who comments here.
Initially I was annoyed with Whaitiri for allowing her frustration to get the better of her but the more that comes out about the incident, the more I have some sympathy for her situation.
I think Mallard has hit on a long term problem inside Parliamentary Services. Both new ministers and parliamentarians in general – together with novice parliamentary staff members – are not given sufficient training on how to handle the various obstacles that must constantly arise.
In this case, it appears the new press officer to Whaitiri did not know it was her job to ensure that her minister was where she should be – in this instance standing with Jacinda Ardern for a photo. That is the primary task of a press officer to ensure maximum press coverage for their minister.
On the other hand it was wrong of Whaitiri to respond to the incident the way she did.
Both have acknowledged they were wrong which is more than Maggie Barry has done or is ever likely to do. Barry may not have physically touched anyone, but she has bullied individuals to the point they have felt suicidal. The effects of psychological bullying can be greater and last a lot longer than most physical bullying as anyone who has been on the receiving end will tell you. Unfortunately its the hardest to prove because the perpetrators are invariably cunning enough not to do it when witnesses are present.
From reports at the time, it seemed to me that Whaitiri lost her roles because of how the discrepancies between the inquiry and her own account were represented to and received by the PM – not purely due to the inquiry findings.
As you say, we will never know and it is well-buried horsemeat by now. You’d think James would still be stuffed from xmas.
Having a big staff turnover is bad? Is a sign the MP is terrible? Did AnneTolley have as big a turnover and office ‘personality differences’ as Maggie Barry as Meka Whaitiri?
On the subject of turnover, I actually covered that in one of my earlier comments back in early September – links in my 2.3.1.1.1.2 above, but might as well quote it here (with a few small edits):
… The investigation is being carried out by Ministerial Services (part of the Dept of Internal Affairs) as the staffer would be employed through Ministerial Services (MS), not Parliamentary Services (PS) who are not responsible for providing funding/staff for Ministers such as press officers, researchers etc. IMO and experience, MS are very professional and well versed in such matters as employment law, investigations etc – and are very thorough and careful. They have to be. They may well employ an outside independent investigator such as an employment law firm or similar.
RE the turnover aspect, the fact that many staff have left her Ministerial office is actually not unusual because of how the allocation of Parliamentary staff (both Parliamentary Service staff to MPs and Ministerial Services staff to Ministers) operates.
As I understand it, each of these Services have a pool of staff of various skills, qualifications and experience available for allocation at the beginning of a new Government which are then allocated to MPs and Ministers. Other staff are employed to fill any gaps, very specific roles etc. But it is all a bit of a ‘mix and match’ lolly scramble and the first year of a new Government is a bit of a shakedown period as MPs and Ministers and such staff find their feet and whether the employment relationships fit or don’t. So there are often big turnovers of staff during this period in particular.
I can think of many other MPs and Ministers over the years who have had similar levels of staff turnover – but some of them also had/have other employees who have worked for them for eons. One such is Winston Peters.
As well as MS and PS staff, departmental advisers seconded from the relevant Ministry(s) or Department(s) also work in Minister’s offices (as I did quite a number of times over the years).
Then yet another type of employees/contractors are political policy advisers/press officers whose sole allegiance is to their Party, Minister, Leader/Deputy Leader of their Party, MPs.
So Minister’s offices (and to a lesser degree MP’s offices) can be real mixture of people with different roles and objectives, different employers and employment contracts – all of which can add to the potential for things to be less than smooth unless managed carefully.”
Bullshit. She is not using it to ‘defend her actions’. If you’d switch your brain on, you’d remember she denies the allegation. So she is not ‘defending’ something she says didn’t actually happen.
You are a bulkshit artist James. Just another racist pushing agenda and using people of color as sacrifices to your disgusting personal philosophy of racist hate.
Yes he MUST MUST MUST!. If he doesn’t, then James will know he’s a legend (in his own mind) and he’s won.
I hope to Christ he doesn’t work in one of those ‘teams’, or manage staff for that matter.
By the way – did you ever get to have that conversation with James?
I’d recommend you have someone from Mediation Services present – you know that MoBIE agency? With a bit of luck they’ll be familiar with this little mediator’s gem from the past:
“I know you believe you understood what you thought I said – but I’m not sure that what you heard is not what I meant”
OR pistols at ten paces might be a better option, and far more efficient and effective, if not pragmatic (going forward)
James has achieved his desired result for the day, pissing some people off on TS which was his objective when he put up the post this morning. Try not to feed the TROLL ?
In other related news – commenters are being asked to be extra careful on open Mike today as a silly little boy James has code browned and spread his faecal matter all over the post. Please wash everything including your eyes if you read his shit.
James
You didn’t add anything to the discussion with that comment. Why DYSTFU. The moderators can’t think of you as anything but someone starting flame wars.
So it’s fair to assume James has been swimming at all twelve of those affected beaches recently. One of those swimming nappies on his butt and another one covering his mouth could have prevented this unfortunate situation.
Imagine a country where for ten years nearly, the roads have been poorly designed and maintained, there have been few mechanics and roading workers trained, where the vehicle fleet has been allowed to age, where trucks have been allowed to get bigger and bigger with consequent damage where promises for new roads and bridges have not been met.
That has been NZ from 2008-2017.
And then a tourist comes in 2017 and says “I drove these roads in 2005 and there was nothing wrong with them.”
But this is not about roads only. It’s about wages and working conditions, It’s about taxation favouritism. It’s about debilitating the unions. It’s about not spending enough on on vital infrastructure, on health and education. It’s about wayward priorities like flag referenda. It’s about running an economy on immigration and environmental degradation. It’s about poor regulation especially where it matters and then not enforcing laws and regulations properly.
It’s about nine years of poor government by poor politicians and senior civil servants, for the benefit of mostly of a proportion of the populace who are coincidentally not the poor.
Then the same tourist comes back a year later and expects it all to be fixed?
Probably the stupidest metaphor in a long time. It was fine a year ago, now it isn’t. It was fine every year before last, now it isn’t. It’s broken in the last year.
Guess the government is better at selling water than keeping it clean
No, Tuppence, the point is that the amount of effort required to fix, upgrade and rebuild infrastructure is immense. It is simply not credible to see a government deliberately run a country down and then demand fixes in the time frame you demand.
I have the money to fix a small amount of earthquake damage, but a dearth of tradesmen/builders to do it. They are busy for example building houses etc in our area for workers in a booming wine industry and for retirees coming into the area.
Have you a reference to back up your claim that all was fine in terms of the environment a year ago or did you luck it, or did you deliberately choose beaches which were swimmable at the time you chose from a wider selection of compromised beaches, as you would, of course.
This is what I can easily find.
16 Auckland beaches unswimmable in November 2017.
Auckland beaches unswimmable 30% of time- in early 2018.
10 beaches unswimmable in early 2017.
January 2017 60% of monitored rivers unswimmable. etc etc etc.
Your argument based on your probably wise choices last summer is not sufficienty robust evidence to argue that this a problem made by this government, not attended to by this government/local authorities or of a size able to be fixed within a year, given that much pollution is derived from agricultural sources and from human waste compounded by heavy periodic rainfall.
With the best will in the world, how long does it take to fix Auckland’s rainwater and sewerage problems to the point where there is no pollution?
Damn you Tuppence S. What did you leave behind you? When are you going to care about being a good thinking citizen. Everytime i read you it is something unhelpful to people trying to guard and better our environment.
Not to worry, Dr Smith is currently redefining quality standards to avoidt sinking to new lows.
“She [Rosie Bosworth] criticised New Zealand’s various agricultural sectors for failing to collaborate on responses to this challenge, saying it there had been “enough f…ing around”.
“Do it tomorrow because we have got about five years before this hits our shores like a massive tsunami.”
That wasn’t a useful reply. You don’t add anhything to the discourse. You RW people just try to drag the blog down, and you certainly do manage to bring it down quite a few notches.
It’s not people who are trying to shift NZrs out of the muddy rut of cow poo they are in or tolerate, because as the quote above says.
“Do it tomorrow because we have got about five years before this hits our shores like a massive tsunami.”
Great work. – hard to actually appreciate how awesome this mahi is – as good as it gets. So many positives for individuals, family, whānau, communities and our country.
Greymouth-based Treanor is one of the trailblazers for Oranga Tamariki’s new Kairaranga-a-whānau role, connecting vulnerable Māori children with extended family all around the country. She researches family trees, tracking down distant whānau in the hope of forging new family connections.
+ 100% will help a lot of young maori going forward, the dislocation from their whanau has been a big problem in the past, not just maori, but all cultures.
The numbers are all fking fake, the metrics are bullshit, the agencies responsible for enforcing good practices are knowing bullshiters enforcing and profiting off all the fake numbers and none of the models make sense at scale of actual human users. https://t.co/sfmdrxGBNJpic.twitter.com/thvicDEL29— Aram Zucker-Scharff (@Chronotope) December 26, 2018
How much of the internet is fake? Studies generally suggest that, year after year, less than 60 percent of web traffic is human; some years, according to some researchers, a healthy majority of it is bot. For a period of time in 2013, the Times reported this year, a full half of YouTube traffic was “bots masquerading as people,” a portion so high that employees feared an inflection point after which YouTube’s systems for detecting fraudulent traffic would begin to regard bot traffic as real and human traffic as fake. They called this hypothetical event “the Inversion.”
Now for something completely different. Saw tonight a 87 Two Ronnies Christmas Show.
Very dated and corny but hey the wit was fantastic beats Master fucking Chef and other similiar shit hands down
A small sample of the wit
Ronnie Corbett advised that the Noise Abatment Society were going to sing Silent Night Just brilliant.
The next generation know’s reality we can not rely on the Pollies to do the correct thing and use all the resourse the Papatuanuku has to build OUR grandchildren a Safer future well I just SEEN one yesterday spouting about spending $700 BILLION on Arms.
WTF we need to gift more to the poor countrys to help thy neighour servive Climate change sea level rising green house warming Risks of ‘domino effect’ of tipping points greater than thought, study says
Scientists warn policymakers not to ignore links, and stress that ‘every action counts’Policymakers have severely underestimated the risks of ecological tipping points, according to a study that shows 45% of all potential environmental collapses are interrelated and could amplify one another.
The authors said their paper, published in the journal Science, highlights how overstressed and overlapping natural systems are combining to throw up a growing number of unwelcome surprises.
Global warming melting UK dreams of a white Christmas
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“The risks are greater than assumed because the interactions are more dynamic,” said Juan Rocha of the Stockholm Resilience Centre. “The important message is to recognise the wickedness of the problem that humanity faces.”
The study collated existing research on ecosystem transitions that can irreversibly tip to another state, such as coral reefs bleaching and being overrun by algae, forests becoming savannahs and ice sheets melting into oceans. It then cross-referenced the 30 types of shift to examine the impacts they might have on one another and human society.Among the latter pairings were Arctic ice sheets and boreal forests. When the former melt, there is less ice to reflect the sun’s heat so the temperature of the planet rises. This increases the risks of forest fires, which discharge carbon into the air that adds to the greenhouse effect, which melts more ice. Although geographically distant, each amplifies the other.
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By contrast, a one-way domino-type impact is that between coral reefs and mangrove forests. When the former are destroyed, it weakens coastal defences and exposes mangroves to storms and ocean surges.
The deforestation of the Amazon is responsible for multiple “cascading effects” – weakening rain systems, forests becoming savannah, and reduced water supplies for cities like São Paulo and crops in the foothills of the Andes. This, in turn, increases the pressure for more land clearance.
Until recently, the study of tipping points was controversial, but it is increasingly accepted as an explanation for climate changes that are happening with more speed and ferocity than earlier computer models predicted. The loss of coral reefs and Arctic sea ice may already be past the point of no return. There are signs the Antarctic is heading the same way faster than thought. Ka kite ano links below P.S The kumara know how sweet it is
A new generation of women want to redefine ‘loud woman’ … (left to right) Lady Gaga, Michelle Obama, Geena Davis, Rihanna, Adele and Angela Merkel. Illustration:
In praise of loud women – the joy and power of being noisy and female Eco Maori has quite a few in my whano and I tau toko them as well Ngati Porou IWI has respected wahine for centrys we have had wahine toa/wahine warriors I say because of our culture we influnced wahine voteing.
Eco Maori tau toko’s wahine because its the correct thing to do they are the nurtures they are more intelligent than most men and when we get %50 of wahine in leadership positions OUR World will be a much better humane intelligent envirmentaly friendly Papatuanuku . My big voice was frowned upon when I was a girl in the 70s. Now, celebrities from Beyoncé to Michelle Obama Geena Davis are helping to tear up the idea of what a woman should sound . So, what are we supposed to do with the idea of loud women in our postfeminist age? Where have they all gone? Theresa May seems to maintain her fragile power by being the opposite of loud. Angela Merkel built a 30-year career on being as unnoticeable as possible. The response to Germaine Greer in recent years can be summed up as: “Shut up.” Is it no longer acceptable to be a woman and a noisy, loquacious pain in the arse? After all, the women we now think of as loud usually communicate through performance as larger-than-life versions of themselves: Beyoncé, Rihanna, Lady Gaga.
In everyday life, there is still something uncomfortable for a woman about being called loud, because the implication is that a) you don’t care about the people around you (otherwise, why are you making them feel uncomfortable?) and b) you don’t care what other people think about you. To allow yourself to be loud as a woman is to be borderline psychopathic – to switch off your empathy and your emotional intelligence – to love the sound of your own voice, to take up too much space. That is the theory, at least. (“Who do you think you are? Beyoncé?”
Ka kite ano links below P.S Thanks for the tau toko from around Papatunuku.
Here you go all the maori who think this system is fair and unbiest wake up. This is what maori need more money in education for the lower classes as we are at the lowest rung of life in Aotearoa ana to kai. As the upper classes get the top jobs in Aotearoa there elitist glasses only lets them see life from there point of view and in most cases is DOWN on the lower classes Hence a system were its all good for them to cheat and buy there way out of human mistakes and throw the warth of there system at the poor people who most times are doing things just to survive.
Inequality has been exacerbated since the education “reforms” enacted by the Labour Party government of 1984–90, supported by the trade unions and enforced by successive administrations. A “market” model was imposed on schools and universities, with self-governing boards tasked with imposing “business” disciplines and competition for students. In the early 1990s, many schools in working-class areas were struggling to survive.
In 1989, student fees were introduced and have increased almost every year. Tertiary study, including at polytechnics, has now become too costly for many working-class students. In 2017, it was estimated that the combined student loan debt of 731,800 people, with an average debt of $NZ21,000, was $15.3 billion.
Significantly, the material produced by the Herald shatters the assiduously cultivated myth that “disparities” in education are not a matter of social class, but are due to other factors, such as ethnicity and gender.
All governments have promoted identity politics to divide the working class, while elevating a small upper middle class layer, particularly among indigenous Maori. A virtual academic industry, abetted and funded by the MoE, is devoted . to sustaining the notion that Maori and Pacific students are worse off because of “institutional racism,” not class.
The insistence that ethnicity is the central cause of inequality has fuelled reactionary political agendas, including demands for racially segregated school systems and charter schools controlled by Maori tribal-based businesses. As in the US and Britain, these publicly-funded, privately-run schools were introduced by the National government to undermine public education and establish a bridge-head for widespread privatisation.
Social class divisions, however, are asserting themselves more powerfully than ever, as capitalism lurches more deeply into global crisis. Internationally, including in New Zealand, teachers and other sections of the working class are beginning to fight back. Primary school teachers held a 24-hour nationwide strike in mid-August, following an effective pay freeze for much of the past decade, and severely understaffed schools. Their primary demands were for a pay increase of 16 percent, smaller class sizes and more support for needy students Ka kite ano links below.
A dark tale of dispossession and greed
by Vincent O’Malley | Dec 9, 2018 | 2 | 6 min read
Vincent O’Malley
For well over 25 years, Vincent O’Malley, a Pākehā historian, has been uncovering and recounting many of the rich and often discomforting stories about how Māori and Pākehā have got along since they began sharing Aotearoa 200 or so years ago.
His most substantial book has been The Great War for New Zealand, where he explains what went on in the Waikato, especially in the wake of the New Zealand Settlements Act in 1863.
But here he focuses on the significance of that legislation — and the need for us to understand and remember it.But here he focuses on the significance of that legislation — and the need for us to understand and remember it.
When dates were being considered for the first Rā Maumahara commemorating the New Zealand Wars, one suggestion was December 3. That day doesn’t mark the anniversary of any particular battle or conflict. Instead, it’s the day in 1863 that Governor George Grey signed into law the New Zealand Settlements Act.
It’s an innocuous-sounding piece of legislation but it had devastating consequences for many Māori communities. The Settlements Act provided the primary legislative mechanism for raupatu — sweeping land confiscations that were supposedly intended to punish acts of “rebellion” while also recouping the costs of fighting the wars. It’s an innocuous-sounding piece of legislation but it had devastating consequences for many Māori communities. The Settlements Act provided the primary legislative mechanism for raupatu — sweeping land confiscations that were supposedly intended to punish acts of “rebellion” while also recouping the costs of fighting the wars.
It declared that where “any Native Tribe or Section of a Tribe or any considerable number thereof” had committed acts of “rebellion against Her Majesty’s authority” since January 1, 1863, their lands could be declared subject to the Act and seized for the purposes of settlement.
It was part of a package of measures passed by the all-Pākehā parliament to crush Māori independence.
Governor George Grey
Grey and his ministers had drawn up these confiscation plans before invading Waikato in July 1863 and, by August, had begun recruiting military settlers who were to be offered a portion of the seized lands in return for their services . Loyal” Māori could apply for compensation for their losses — initially in money but later including lands. But the Compensation Court process that followed returned only a fraction of what was lost, often in completely different areas and always under a new legal form of title that meant many of these lands were quickly lost to their owners. Ka kite ano links below
Kia ora Tekaea Aotearoa is paradise we have heaps of guess and a lot of people are traveling to there holidays it’s cool that the price of fuel went down.
It’s ka pai to see Pohorawiri marae getting a spruce up it will be able to cope with all the tangata whenua gathering well into the future.
The salvation army does a very good service for tangata whenua in Aotearoa.
One can see the results of nine years of smoky governments suppressing Maori and the poor people as more food parcels that are needed has risen sharply as of late.
ka pai to the horouta wake whine are shining brighter.
Ka kite ano
Kia ora Newshub everyone has to drive carefully in Aotearoa as the roads are packed and they are not 3 lane highways that our guest are use to hence the road toll is climbing .Condolences to the people who lost love ones in the Indonesia
It is not accetable that tamariki are dieing in custerdy in the USA boarder detention centers.
The Tauranga council just permeted to many houses to be built and did not have climate change in there plans and look what happeneds tutai in the moana
Good on Collin O’brady for his treck across Antarctica solo some one could not say his name I wonder why I know.
Its a real crime letting all those children starving in Yemen there need to be more aid sent into help the children.
Do you believe those stats on daved seenothing getting all those hits on trademe for twerking haha .Ka kite ano P.S Eco Maori has another word he has eliminated must be a reason they keep pushing thee other money
JOSEPH TWISTED THE DISHCLOTH gently in the wine-glass, removed it carefully, and held the glass up to the light. Though the bar was dimly lit, there was illumination enough to set the glass a-sparkle. Satisfied, Joesph replaced it carefully on the shelf.“Whose that fellow at the end of the bar?”The ...
Three Wise Men?Successful political leadership embodies a keen awareness of past, present, and future, along with the wisdom to adjudicate what is owed, and should be paid, to each. Sadly, such leadership has not been much in evidence during 2024. Indeed, New Zealanders have seen just how badly things can ...
Crossing Cancelled:The decision to pull the plug on the IRex project was one of the earliest – and stupidest – decisions New Zealand’s new conservative coalition government would make in the first year of its parliamentary term. And that stupidity was only compounded as the year wore on.LET’S BEGIN WITH ...
Morena all,In my paywalled newsletter yesterday, I signed off for Christmas and wished readers well, but I thought I’d send everyone a quick note this morning.This hasn’t been a good year for our small country. The divisions caused by the Treaty Principles Bill, the cuts to our public sector, increased ...
This morning’s six standouts for me at 6.30 am include:Kāinga Ora is quietly planning to sell over $1 billion worth of state-owned land under 300 state homes in Auckland’s wealthiest suburbs, including around Bastion Point, to give the Government more fiscal room to pay for tax cuts and reduce borrowing.A ...
Hi,It’s my birthday on Christmas Day, and I have a favour to ask.A birthday wish.I would love you to share one Webworm story you’ve liked this year.The simple fact is: apart from paying for a Webworm membership (thank you!), sharing and telling others about this place is the most important ...
The last few days have been a bit too much of a whirl for me to manage a fresh edition each day. It's been that kind of year. Hope you don't mind.I’ve been coming around to thinking that it doesn't really matter if you don't have something to say every ...
The worms will live in every hostIt's hard to pick which one they eat the mostThe horrible people, the horrible peopleIt's as anatomic as the size of your steepleCapitalism has made it this wayOld-fashioned fascism will take it awaySongwriter: Twiggy Ramirez Read more ...
Hi,It’s almost Christmas Day which means it is almost my birthday, where you will find me whimpering in the corner clutching a warm bottle of Baileys.If you’re out of ideas for presents (and truly desperate) then it is possible to gift a full Webworm subscription to a friend (or enemy) ...
This morning’s six standouts for me at 6.30am include:Rachel Helyer Donaldson’s scoop via RNZ last night of cuts to maternity jobs in the health system;Maddy Croad’s scoop via The Press-$ this morning on funding cuts for Christchurch’s biggest food rescue charity;Benedict Collins’ scoop last night via 1News on a last-minute ...
A listing of 25 news and opinion articles we found interesting and shared on social media during the past week: Sun, December 15, 2024 thru Sat, December 21, 2024. Based on feedback we received, this week's roundup is the first one published soleley by category. We are still interested in ...
Well, I've been there, sitting in that same chairWhispering that same prayer half a million timesIt's a lie, though buried in disciplesOne page of the Bible isn't worth a lifeThere's nothing wrong with youIt's true, it's trueThere's something wrong with the villageWith the villageSomething wrong with the villageSongwriters: Andrew Jackson ...
ACT would like to dictate what universities can and can’t say. We knew it was coming. It was outlined in the coalition agreement and has become part of Seymour’s strategy of “emphasising public funding” to prevent people from opposing him and his views—something he also uses to try and de-platform ...
Skeptical Science is partnering with Gigafact to produce fact briefs — bite-sized fact checks of trending claims. This fact brief was written by Sue Bin Park from the Gigafact team in collaboration with members from our team. You can submit claims you think need checking via the tipline. Are we heading ...
So the Solstice has arrived – Summer in this part of the world, Winter for the Northern Hemisphere. And with it, the publication my new Norse dark-fantasy piece, As Our Power Lessens at Eternal Haunted Summer: https://eternalhauntedsummer.com/issues/winter-solstice-2024/as-our-power-lessens/ As previously noted, this one is very ‘wyrd’, and Northern Theory of Courage. ...
The Natural Choice: As a starter for ten percent of the Party Vote, “saving the planet” is a very respectable objective. Young voters, in particular, raised on the dire (if unheeded) warnings of climate scientists, and the irrefutable evidence of devastating weather events linked to global warming, vote Green. After ...
The Government cancelled 60% of Kāinga Ora’s new builds next year, even though the land for them was already bought, the consents were consented and there are builders unemployed all over the place. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāMōrena. Long stories short, the six things that mattered in Aotearoa’s political ...
Photo by CHUTTERSNAP on UnsplashEvery morning I get up at 3am to go around the traps of news sites in Aotearoa and globally. I pick out the top ones from my point of view and have been putting them into my Dawn Chorus email, which goes out with a podcast. ...
Over on Kikorangi Newsroom's Marc Daalder has published his annual OIA stats. So I thought I'd do mine: 82 OIA requests sent in 2024 7 posts based on those requests 20 average working days to receive a response Ministry of Justice was my most-requested entity, ...
Welcome to the December 2024 Economic Bulletin. We have two monthly features in this edition. In the first, we discuss what the Half Year Economic and Fiscal Update from Treasury and the Budget Policy Statement from the Minister of Finance tell us about the fiscal position and what to ...
The NZCTU Te Kauae Kaimahi have submitted against the controversial Treaty Principles Bill, slamming the Bill as a breach of Te Tiriti o Waitangi and an attack on tino rangatiratanga and the collective rights of Tangata Whenua. “This Bill seeks to legislate for Te Tiriti o Waitangi principles that are ...
I don't knowHow to say what's got to be saidI don't know if it's black or whiteThere's others see it redI don't get the answers rightI'll leave that to youIs this love out of fashionOr is it the time of yearAre these words distraction?To the words you want to hearSongwriters: ...
Our economy has experienced its worst recession since 1991. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāMōrena. Long stories short, the six things that matter in Aotearoa’s political economy around housing, climate and poverty on Friday, December 20 in The Kākā’s Dawn Chorus podcast above and the daily Pick ‘n’ Mix below ...
Twas the Friday before Christmas and all through the week we’ve been collecting stories for our final roundup of the year. As we start to wind down for the year we hope you all have a safe and happy Christmas and new year. If you’re travelling please be safe on ...
The podcast above of the weekly ‘Hoon’ webinar for paying subscribers on Thursday night features co-hosts & talking about the year’s news with: on climate. Her book of the year was Tim Winton’s cli-fi novel Juice and she also mentioned Mike Joy’s memoir The Fight for Fresh Water. ...
The Government can head off to the holidays, entitled to assure itself that it has done more or less what it said it would do. The campaign last year promised to “get New Zealand back on track.” When you look at the basic promises—to trim back Government expenditure, toughen up ...
Open access notables An intensification of surface Earth’s energy imbalance since the late 20th century, Li et al., Communications Earth & Environment:Tracking the energy balance of the Earth system is a key method for studying the contribution of human activities to climate change. However, accurately estimating the surface energy balance ...
Photo by Mauricio Fanfa on UnsplashKia oraCome and join us for our weekly ‘Hoon’ webinar with paying subscribers to The Kākā for an hour at 5 pm today.Jump on this link on YouTube Livestream for our chat about the week’s news with myself , plus regular guests and , ...
“Like you said, I’m an unreconstructed socialist. Everybody deserves to get something for Christmas.”“ONE OF THOSE had better be for me!” Hannah grinned, fascinated, as Laurie made his way, gingerly, to the bar, his arms full of gift-wrapped packages.“Of course!”, beamed Laurie. Depositing his armful on the bar-top and selecting ...
Data released by Statistics New Zealand today showed a significant slowdown in the economy over the past six months, with GDP falling by 1% in September, and 1.1% in June said CTU Economist Craig Renney. “The data shows that the size of the economy in GDP terms is now smaller ...
One last thing before I quitI never wanted any moreThan I could fit into my headI still remember every single word you saidAnd all the shit that somehow came along with itStill, there's one thing that comforts meSince I was always caged and now I'm freeSongwriters: David Grohl / Georg ...
Sparse offerings outside a Te Kauwhata church. Meanwhile, the Government is cutting spending in ways that make thousands of hungry children even hungrier, while also cutting funding for the charities that help them. It’s also doing that while winding back new building of affordable housing that would allow parents to ...
It is difficult to make sense of the Luxon Coalition Government’s economic management.This end-of-year review about the state of economic management – the state of the economy was last week – is not going to cover the National Party contribution. Frankly, like every other careful observer, I cannot make up ...
This morning I awoke to the lovely news that we are firmly back on track, that is if the scale was reversed.NZ ranks low in global economic comparisonsNew Zealand's economy has been ranked 33rd out of 37 in an international comparison of which have done best in 2024.Economies were ranked ...
Remember those silent movies where the heroine is tied to the railway tracks or going over the waterfall in a barrel? Finance Minister Nicola Willis seems intent on portraying herself as that damsel in distress. According to Willis, this country’s current economic problems have all been caused by the spending ...
Similar to the cuts and the austerity drive imposed by Ruth Richardson in the 1990’s, an era which to all intents and purposes we’ve largely fiddled around the edges with fixing in the time since – over, to be fair, several administrations – whilst trying our best it seems to ...
String-Pulling in the Dark: For the democratic process to be meaningful it must also be public. WITH TRUST AND CONFIDENCE in New Zealand’s politicians and journalists steadily declining, restoring those virtues poses a daunting challenge. Just how daunting is made clear by comparing the way politicians and journalists treated New Zealanders ...
Dear Nicola Willis, thank you for letting us know in so many words that the swingeing austerity hasn't worked.By in so many words I mean the bit where you said, Here is a sea of red ink in which we are drowning after twelve months of savage cost cutting and ...
The Open Government Partnership is a multilateral organisation committed to advancing open government. Countries which join are supposed to co-create regular action plans with civil society, committing to making verifiable improvements in transparency, accountability, participation, or technology and innovation for the above. And they're held to account through an Independent ...
Today I tuned into something strange: a press conference that didn’t make my stomach churn or the hairs on the back of my neck stand on end. Which was strange, because it was about the torture of children. It was the announcement by Erica Stanford — on her own, unusually ...
This is a must watch, and puts on brilliant and practical display the implications and mechanics of fast-track law corruption and weakness.CLICK HERE: LINK TO WATCH VIDEOOur news media as it is set up is simply not equipped to deal with the brazen disinformation and corruption under this right wing ...
NZCTU Te Kauae Kaimahi Acting Secretary Erin Polaczuk is welcoming the announcement from Minister of Workplace Relations and Safety Brooke van Velden that she is opening consultation on engineered stone and is calling on her to listen to the evidence and implement a total ban of the product. “We need ...
The Government has announced a 1.5% increase in the minimum wage from 1 April 2025, well below forecast inflation of 2.5%. Unions have reacted strongly and denounced it as a real terms cut. PSA and the CTU are opposing a new round of staff cuts at WorkSafe, which they say ...
The decision to unilaterally repudiate the contract for new Cook Strait ferries is beginning to look like one of the stupidest decisions a New Zealand government ever made. While cancelling the ferries and their associated port infrastructure may have made this year's books look good, it means higher costs later, ...
Hi there! I’ve been overseas recently, looking after a situation with a family member. So apologies if there any less than focused posts! Vanuatu has just had a significant 7.3 earthquake. Two MFAT staff are unaccounted for with local fatalities.It’s always sad to hear of such things happening.I think of ...
Today is a special member's morning, scheduled to make up for the government's theft of member's days throughout the year. First up was the first reading of Greg Fleming's Crimes (Increased Penalties for Slavery Offences) Amendment Bill, which was passed unanimously. Currently the House is debating the third reading of ...
We're going backwardsIgnoring the realitiesGoing backwardsAre you counting all the casualties?We are not there yetWhere we need to beWe are still in debtTo our insanitiesSongwriter: Martin Gore Read more ...
Willis blamed Treasury for changing its productivity assumptions and Labour’s spending increases since Covid for the worsening Budget outlook. Photo: Getty ImagesMōrena. Long stories short, the six things that matter in Aotearoa’s political economy around housing, climate and poverty on Wednesday, December 18 in The Kākā’s Dawn Chorus podcast above ...
Today the Auckland Transport board meet for the last time this year. For those interested (and with time to spare), you can follow along via this MS Teams link from 10am. I’ve taken a quick look through the agenda items to see what I think the most interesting aspects are. ...
Hi,If you’re a New Zealander — you know who Mike King is. He is the face of New Zealand’s battle against mental health problems. He can be loud and brash. He raises, and is entrusted with, a lot of cash. Last year his “I Am Hope” charity reported a revenue ...
Probably about the only consolation available from yesterday’s unveiling of the Half-Yearly Economic and Fiscal Update (HYEFU) is that it could have been worse. Though Finance Minister Nicola Willis has tightened the screws on future government spending, she has resisted the calls from hard-line academics, fiscal purists and fiscal hawks ...
The right have a stupid saying that is only occasionally true:When is democracy not democracy? When it hasn’t been voted on.While not true in regards to branches of government such as the judiciary, it’s a philosophy that probably should apply to recently-elected local government councillors. Nevertheless, this concept seemed to ...
Long story short: the Government’s austerity policy has driven the economy into a deeper and longer recession that means it will have to borrow $20 billion more over the next four years than it expected just six months ago. Treasury’s latest forecasts show the National-ACT-NZ First Government’s fiscal strategy of ...
Come and join myself and CTU Chief Economist for a pop-up ‘Hoon’ webinar on the Government’s Half Yearly Economic and Fiscal Update (HYEFU) with paying subscribers to The Kākā for 30 minutes at 5 pm today.Jump on this link on YouTube Livestream to watch our chat. Don’t worry if ...
In 1998, in the wake of the Paremoremo Prison riot, the Department of Corrections established the "Behaviour Management Regime". Prisoners were locked in their cells for 22 or 23 hours a day, with no fresh air, no exercise, no social contact, no entertainment, and in some cases no clothes and ...
New data released by the Treasury shows that the economic policies of this Government have made things worse in the year since they took office, said NZCTU Economist Craig Renney. “Our fiscal indicators are all heading in the wrong direction – with higher levels of debt, a higher deficit, and ...
At the 2023 election, National basically ran on a platform of being better economic managers. So how'd that turn out for us? In just one year, they've fucked us for two full political terms: The government's books are set to remain deeply in the red for the near term ...
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The NZCTU Te Kauae Kaimahi are saying that the Government should do the right thing and deliver minimum wage increases that don’t see workers fall further behind, in response to today’s announcement that the minimum wage will only be increased by 1.5%, well short of forecast inflation. “With inflation forecast ...
Oh, I weptFor daysFilled my eyesWith silly tearsOh, yeaBut I don'tCare no moreI don't care ifMy eyes get soreSongwriters: Paul Rodgers / Paul Kossoff. Read more ...
This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections by Bob HensonIn this aerial view, fingers of meltwater flow from the melting Isunnguata Sermia glacier descending from the Greenland Ice Sheet on July 11, 2024, near Kangerlussuaq, Greenland. According to the Programme for Monitoring of the Greenland Ice Sheet (PROMICE), the ...
In August, I wrote an article about David Seymour1 with a video of his testimony, to warn that there were grave dangers to his Ministry of Regulation:David Seymour's Ministry of Slush Hides Far Greater RisksWhy Seymour's exorbitant waste of taxpayers' money could be the least of concernThe money for Seymour ...
Willis is expected to have to reveal the bitter fiscal fruits of her austerity strategy in the HYEFU later today. Photo: Lynn Grieveson/TheKakaMōrena. Long stories short, the six things that matter in Aotearoa’s political economy around housing, climate and poverty on Tuesday, December 17 in The Kākā’s Dawn Chorus podcast ...
On Friday the government announced it would double the number of toll roads in New Zealand as well as make a few other changes to how toll roads are used in the country. The real issue though is not that tolling is being used but the suggestion it will make ...
The Prime Minister yesterday engaged in what looked like a pre-emptive strike designed to counter what is likely to be a series of depressing economic statistics expected before the end of the week. He opened his weekly post-Cabinet press conference with a recitation of the Government’s achievements. “It certainly has ...
This whooping cough story from south Auckland is a good example of the coalition government’s approach to social need – spend money on urging people to get vaccinated but only after you’ve cut the funding to where they could get vaccinated. This has been the case all year with public ...
And if there is a GodI know he likes to rockHe likes his loud guitarsHis spiders from MarsAnd if there is a GodI know he's watching meHe likes what he seesBut there's trouble on the breezeSongwriter: William Patrick Corgan Read more ...
Here’s a quick round up of today’s political news:1. MORE FOOD BANKS, CHARITIES, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SHELTERS AND YOUTH SOCIAL SERVICES SET TO CLOSE OR SCALE BACK AROUND THE COUNTRY AS GOVT CUTS FUNDINGSome of Auckland's largest foodbanks are warning they may need to close or significantly reduce food parcels after ...
Iain Rennie, CNZMSecretary and Chief Executive to the TreasuryDear Secretary, Undue restrictions on restricted briefings This week, the Treasury barred representatives from four organisations, including the New Zealand Council of Trade Unions Te Kauae Kaimahi, from attending the restricted briefing for the Half-Year Economic and Fiscal Update. We had been ...
This is a guest post by Tim Adriaansen, a community, climate, and accessibility advocate.I won’t shut up about climate breakdown, and whenever possible I try to shift the focus of a climate conversation towards solutions. But you’ll almost never hear me give more than a passing nod to ...
National has only been in power for a year, but everywhere you look, its choices are taking New Zealand a long way backwards. In no particular order, here are the National Government's Top 50 Greatest Misses of its first year in power. ...
The Government is quietly undertaking consultation on the dangerous Regulatory Standards Bill over the Christmas period to avoid too much attention. ...
The Government’s planned changes to the freedom of speech obligations of universities is little more than a front for stoking the political fires of disinformation and fear, placing teachers and students in the crosshairs. ...
The Ministry of Regulation’s report into Early Childhood Education (ECE) in Aotearoa raises serious concerns about the possibility of lowering qualification requirements, undermining quality and risking worse outcomes for tamariki, whānau, and kaiako. ...
A Bill to modernise the role of Justices of the Peace (JP), ensuring they remain active in their communities and connected with other JPs, has been put into the ballot. ...
Labour will continue to fight unsustainable and destructive projects that are able to leap-frog environment protection under National’s Fast-track Approvals Bill. ...
The Green Party has warned that a Green Government will revoke the consents of companies who override environmental protections as part of Fast-Track legislation being passed today. ...
The Green Party says the Half Year Economic and Fiscal Update shows how the Government is failing to address the massive social and infrastructure deficits our country faces. ...
The Government’s latest move to reduce the earnings of migrant workers will not only hurt migrants but it will drive down the wages of Kiwi workers. ...
Te Pāti Māori has this morning issued a stern warning to Fast-Track applicants with interests in mining, pledging to hold them accountable through retrospective liability and to immediately revoke Fast-Track consents under a future Te Pāti Māori government. This warning comes ahead of today’s third reading of the Fast-Track Approvals ...
The Government’s announcement today of a 1.5 per cent increase to minimum wage is another blow for workers, with inflation projected to exceed the increase, meaning it’s a real terms pay reduction for many. ...
All the Government has achieved from its announcement today is to continue to push responsibility back on councils for its own lack of action to help bring down skyrocketing rates. ...
The Government has used its final post-Cabinet press conference of the year to punch down on local government without offering any credible solutions to the issues our councils are facing. ...
The Government has failed to keep its promise to ‘super charge’ the EV network, delivering just 292 chargers - less than half of the 670 chargers needed to meet its target. ...
The Green Party is calling for the Government to stop subsidising the largest user of the country’s gas supplies, Methanex, following a report highlighting the multi-national’s disproportionate influence on energy prices in Aotearoa. ...
The Green Party is appalled with the Government’s new child poverty targets that are based on a new ‘persistent poverty’ measure that could be met even with an increase in child poverty. ...
New independent analysis has revealed that the Government’s Emissions Reduction Plan (ERP) will reduce emissions by a measly 1 per cent by 2030, failing to set us up for the future and meeting upcoming targets. ...
The loss of 27 kaimahi at Whakaata Māori and the end of its daily news bulletin is a sad day for Māori media and another step backwards for Te Tiriti o Waitangi justice. ...
Yesterday the Government passed cruel legislation through first reading to establish a new beneficiary sanction regime that will ultimately mean more households cannot afford the basic essentials. ...
Today's passing of the Government's Residential Tenancies Amendment Bill–which allows landlords to end tenancies with no reason–ignores the voice of the people and leaves renters in limbo ahead of the festive season. ...
After wasting a year, Nicola Willis has delivered a worse deal for the Cook Strait ferries that will end up being more expensive and take longer to arrive. ...
Green Party co-leader Chlöe Swarbrick has today launched a Member’s Bill to sanction Israel for its unlawful presence in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, as the All Out For Gaza rally reaches Parliament. ...
After years of advocacy, the Green Party is very happy to hear the Government has listened to our collective voices and announced the closure of the greyhound racing industry, by 1 August 2026. ...
In response to a new report from ERO, the Government has acknowledged the urgent need for consistency across the curriculum for Relationship and Sexuality Education (RSE) in schools. ...
The Green Party is appalled at the Government introducing legislation that will make it easier to penalise workers fighting for better pay and conditions. ...
Thank you for the invitation to speak with you tonight on behalf of the political party I belong to - which is New Zealand First. As we have heard before this evening the Kinleith Mill is proposing to reduce operations by focusing on pulp and discontinuing “lossmaking paper production”. They say that they are currently consulting on the plan to permanently shut ...
Auckland Central MP, Chlöe Swarbrick, has written to Mayor Wayne Brown requesting he stop the unnecessary delays on St James Theatre’s restoration. ...
Kiwis planning a swim or heading out on a boat this summer should remember to stop and think about water safety, Sport & Recreation Minister Chris Bishop and ACC and Associate Transport Minister Matt Doocey say. “New Zealand’s beaches, lakes and rivers are some of the most beautiful in the ...
The Government is urging Kiwis to drive safely this summer and reminding motorists that Police will be out in force to enforce the road rules, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says.“This time of year can be stressful and result in poor decision-making on our roads. Whether you are travelling to see ...
Health Minister Dr Shane Reti says Health New Zealand will move swiftly to support dozens of internationally-trained doctors already in New Zealand on their journey to employment here, after a tripling of sought-after examination places. “The Medical Council has delivered great news for hardworking overseas doctors who want to contribute ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has appointed Sarah Ottrey to the APEC Business Advisory Council (ABAC). “At my first APEC Summit in Lima, I experienced firsthand the role that ABAC plays in guaranteeing political leaders hear the voice of business,” Mr Luxon says. “New Zealand’s ABAC representatives are very well respected and ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has announced four appointments to New Zealand’s intelligence oversight functions. The Honourable Robert Dobson KC has been appointed Chief Commissioner of Intelligence Warrants, and the Honourable Brendan Brown KC has been appointed as a Commissioner of Intelligence Warrants. The appointments of Hon Robert Dobson and Hon ...
Improvements in the average time it takes to process survey and title applications means housing developments can progress more quickly, Minister for Land Information Chris Penk says. “The government is resolutely focused on improving the building and construction pipeline,” Mr Penk says. “Applications to issue titles and subdivide land are ...
The Government’s measures to reduce airport wait times, and better transparency around flight disruptions is delivering encouraging early results for passengers ahead of the busy summer period, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “Improving the efficiency of air travel is a priority for the Government to give passengers a smoother, more reliable ...
The Government today announced the intended closure of the Apollo Hotel as Contracted Emergency Housing (CEH) in Rotorua, Associate Housing Minister Tama Potaka says. This follows a 30 per cent reduction in the number of households in CEH in Rotorua since National came into Government. “Our focus is on ending CEH in the Whakarewarewa area starting ...
The Government will reshape vocational education and training to return decision making to regions and enable greater industry input into work-based learning Tertiary Education and Skills Minister, Penny Simmonds says. “The redesigned system will better meet the needs of learners, industry, and the economy. It includes re-establishing regional polytechnics that ...
The Government is taking action to better manage synthetic refrigerants and reduce emissions caused by greenhouse gases found in heating and cooling products, Environment Minister Penny Simmonds says. “Regulations will be drafted to support a product stewardship scheme for synthetic refrigerants, Ms. Simmonds says. “Synthetic refrigerants are found in a ...
People travelling on State Highway 1 north of Hamilton will be relieved that remedial works and safety improvements on the Ngāruawāhia section of the Waikato Expressway were finished today, with all lanes now open to traffic, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says.“I would like to acknowledge the patience of road users ...
Tertiary Education and Skills Minister, Penny Simmonds, has announced a new appointment to the board of Education New Zealand (ENZ). Dr Erik Lithander has been appointed as a new member of the ENZ board for a three-year term until 30 January 2028. “I would like to welcome Dr Erik Lithander to the ...
The Government will have senior representatives at Waitangi Day events around the country, including at the Waitangi Treaty Grounds, but next year Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has chosen to take part in celebrations elsewhere. “It has always been my intention to celebrate Waitangi Day around the country with different ...
Two more criminal gangs will be subject to the raft of laws passed by the Coalition Government that give Police more powers to disrupt gang activity, and the intimidation they impose in our communities, Police Minister Mark Mitchell says. Following an Order passed by Cabinet, from 3 February 2025 the ...
Attorney-General Judith Collins today announced the appointment of Justice Christian Whata as a Judge of the Court of Appeal. Justice Whata’s appointment as a Judge of the Court of Appeal will take effect on 1 August 2025 and fill a vacancy created by the retirement of Hon Justice David Goddard on ...
The latest economic figures highlight the importance of the steps the Government has taken to restore respect for taxpayers’ money and drive economic growth, Finance Minister Nicola Willis says. Data released today by Stats NZ shows Gross Domestic Product fell 1 per cent in the September quarter. “Treasury and most ...
Tertiary Education and Skills Minister Penny Simmonds and Associate Minister of Education David Seymour today announced legislation changes to strengthen freedom of speech obligations on universities. “Freedom of speech is fundamental to the concept of academic freedom and there is concern that universities seem to be taking a more risk-averse ...
Police Minister, Mark Mitchell, and Internal Affairs Minister, Brooke van Velden, today launched a further Public Safety Network cellular service that alongside last year’s Cellular Roaming roll-out, puts globally-leading cellular communications capability into the hands of our emergency responders. The Public Safety Network’s new Cellular Priority service means Police, Wellington ...
State Highway 1 through the Mangamuka Gorge has officially reopened today, providing a critical link for Northlanders and offering much-needed relief ahead of the busy summer period, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says.“The Mangamuka Gorge is a vital route for Northland, carrying around 1,300 vehicles per day and connecting the Far ...
The Government has welcomed decisions by the NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) and Ashburton District Council confirming funding to boost resilience in the Canterbury region, with construction on a second Ashburton Bridge expected to begin in 2026, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says. “Delivering a second Ashburton Bridge to improve resilience and ...
The Government is backing the response into high pathogenic avian influenza (HPAI) in Otago, Biosecurity Minister Andrew Hoggard says. “Cabinet has approved new funding of $20 million to enable MPI to meet unbudgeted ongoing expenses associated with the H7N6 response including rigorous scientific testing of samples at the enhanced PC3 ...
Legislation that will repeal all advertising restrictions for broadcasters on Sundays and public holidays has passed through first reading in Parliament today, Media Minister Paul Goldsmith says. “As a growing share of audiences get their news and entertainment from streaming services, these restrictions have become increasingly redundant. New Zealand on ...
Today the House agreed to Brendan Horsley being appointed Inspector-General of Defence, Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith says. “Mr Horsley’s experience will be invaluable in overseeing the establishment of the new office and its support networks. “He is currently Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security, having held that role since June 2020. ...
Minister of Internal Affairs Brooke van Velden says the Government has agreed to the final regulations for the levy on insurance contracts that will fund Fire and Emergency New Zealand from July 2026. “Earlier this year the Government agreed to a 2.2 percent increase to the rate of levy. Fire ...
The Government is delivering regulatory relief for New Zealand businesses through changes to the Anti-Money Laundering and Countering Financing of Terrorism Act. “The Anti-Money Laundering and Countering Financing of Terrorism Amendment Bill, which was introduced today, is the second Bill – the other being the Statutes Amendment Bill - that ...
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“Three days earlier it was alleged her actions had left bruising to the upper right arm of the staffer, who had been in the role for six days.
The report into the incident found it was “probable” that the employee’s version of events was more likely than the Minister’s.
Whaitiri says there are certain parts of the report she agrees with, but others she “actively continues to challenge”.
“In this country, we have a hierarchy; white men, white women, brown men, brown women, and sometimes brown women have to talk extra loud to be heard,” the MP said.”
So it seems as a “brown woman” you have to physically assault staff and leave bruises in order to be heard.
She was a government minister for goodness sake – I can’t imagine her staff ignoring her because of the colour of her skin.
Jacinda would be a fool to let her back into a ministers role – she is obviously unrepentant for what she did.
Whereas Maggie Barry fessed up immediately and handed in her Ministerial warrant quick-smart!
‘Whataboutism (also known as whataboutery) is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent’s position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument, which in the United States is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda.When criticisms were leveled at the Soviet Union during the Cold War, the Soviet response would often be “What about…” followed by an event in the Western world.’
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
Yeah, but what about whoaboutism?
You do that quite a bit stunted munter.
I missed where she assaulted a staff member –
Of course you did, James; you “missed” when Key repeatedly assaulted the ponytail-wearing waitress. I sometimes wonder if you’re completely blind (my apologies and sympathies if you are).
I was wondering how long that would take.
*sigh*
So I guess this makes assaulting a staff member and leaving bruises all ok then? Since you seem happy to ignore this (being the subject of the thread and all).
Do the two bottles of wine Key coughed-up “make it all okay then”?
(Since you seem…)
One account had Whaitiri grabbing the staffer. Another had her pushing the staffer.
At least you haven’t extrapolated it to ‘whacking’ or ‘hitting’ as I’ve seen elsewhere. You’ve got it to the semantic purity of ‘assaulted.’
In your world, assaulting, the act of making physical contact, is worse than the the worst verbal abuse. I can momentarily grab someone by the sleeve and yank them and that invites the death penalty. Tormenting staff to any degree for any time until they lose their mind or chuck their job will never equal one fleeting grab.
Sigh indeed.
No it doesn’t but I don’t recall you getting all het up about the ongoing assault that John Key perpetrated on a staff member at a cafe that he frequented.
actually it does not make anything right,
but i suggest it is best to not be throwing stones when you sit in a glass house.
Sadly, John Key while being the Prime Minister of NZ did harass a young women -to the point of where his wife told him to stop, the girl was in tears and everyone was just at wits end as to what to do with the pair of dry balls called John Key – at her work place and everyone just went yawn, he is the PM and surely that is just a bit of horseplaying there….even tho the young women was not interested at all in horseplaying with the PM. The man, while PM was also filmed fondling the hair of young girls until – again on camera – he was told of by the mother.
Maggy Barry should have stayed with her tomatoes and appropriate companion planting rather then go on to be a Minister who will only be known for harassment of staff – again, just a bit of horseplay right?
So for what its worth, my 2 cents, all of these fuckwits should have been sacked immediately from their jobs.
If you can not comport yourself as a decent human being towards others, go away and stay away. No decent company should have to put up with these losers.
In short, no its not ok if National does it.
As for that women from the Labour Party, sack her. If there is evidence of physical assault, charge her. Done.
They need a conviction of assault which carries a maximum term of more then two years which would have them automatically out of parliament and never be able to run for being an MP ever again.
S9 Summary Offences Act: Common Assault only carries six months.
S196 Crimes Act: Common Assault carries up to one year.
Damn.
Maybe we need to increase the term for assault.
She’ll be fine as long as she’s got staff who talk back ‘extra loud’ jimby.
“So it seems as a “brown woman” you have to physically assault staff and leave bruises in order to be heard.”
Not actually what is said or meant, James. It says a lot that you equate the voices of women with violence. It’s almost like you’re scared of women and the things they say.
The telling quote is the one about the hierarchy of power, which I’m sure you agree with 100%, representing, as you do, the top echelon.
Utter cobblers Te Reo clearly you are not married.
It’s clear she is using it as an excuse for her actions.
Bullshit James you little racist creep. You are selective in your quoting but it does show your odious opinion and it reeks of racism.
I have her quote in full (as it was written) and linked to the entire article.
I think you are projecting Marty mars.
Your projecting your hate of people of color. So obvious and typical from a rwnj like you.
Now I will concede I think she’s was an extremely poor minister and is quite a horrible person.
But that has nothing to do with the colour of her skin.
On that I couldn’t give a shit.
You have a very poor understanding of the issues at play. You don’t understand mana for instance and have zero idea of how that influences Māori. You are like a crayon when a fine quill is needed. You not only know little but that wee bit you picked up from the MSM you spin into lies and disinformation – pretty basic troll behaviour and certainly bigoted. You really are a weakling.
Ducking a and weaving Marty but still bs you sprout, there is no defense here, your cultural justification is pathetic Now don’t get all wound up and abusive over this, just chill
Not defending at all. Just adding a nuance that most here don’t even realise exists.
James isn’t a Kiwi. He’s an English immigrant and a guest here. Like a lot of older English immigrants, James brings colonial thinking to his every conversation and action and has no concept of Maori as a foundation of New Zealand indentity.
^ deliberately stating something as fact with no evidence is poor form.
But you would jump to her defence esp as you have admitted prev having assaulted women. (Hey if you can start a meme – so can I ).
Thats just sad marty. One thing this is NOT about is mana
Evidently she grabbed the women by the arm and some minor bruising was inflicted, maybe the staffer is prone to bruising very easily, I don’t think it was a full blown assault as the media made out.
Obviously Meka did not realize her own strength in this incident which was blown right out of proportion ?
She still had no right to touch her and yes she is excusing her behavior by playing the race card.
She needs to stay on the naughty chair till she accepts her behavior was wrong.
“and yes she is excusing her behavior by playing the race card.”
Nah there is a heirarchy you are just at the top is all and can’t see anyone else from your lofty heights.
I’m at the top 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Classic
At the top of what I’d love to know .
I’ve had Maori bosses 2 I’ve never been the boss of anyone apart from running a docking crew on occasion.
I’m one illness from broke and probably homeless .
Eve n my kiwisaver has turned against me .
Waitiri is levels above me and should/will stay there she just needs to pull her head in and stop being a bully.
Don’t be dense – you’re a white Male aren’t you. Sure you may be at the bottom of that group but you don’t have a clue about groups that SOCIETY oppresses.
What are you Mars?
Not a Māori woman so I bow to their knowledge and experience.
Hard too understand how a Maori women, that holds a reasonably powerful position as a minister in government can claim oppression!
Keep working on the understanding Jim. The problem with the majority of Kiwis (and I presume you are or have become), is that there has not been much thinking happening for 20 years or so. Try drinking regular glasses of water, cut down on the tea, coffee and alcohol and apply your mind to what goes on in NZ and look for how the various factions rate for income and opportunity for good jobs.
And who teaches them values of respect for all people – parents? school? the coach of their sports team?
What Meta Whaitiri said was, ” sometimes brown women have to talk extra loud to be heard,”
James reinterpreted that as, “So it seems as a “brown woman” you have to physically assault staff and leave bruises in order to be heard.”
James does this as a matter of course, because it “seems” to him.
Robert
You would have a point if she said that in regard to perhaps Māori women getting into management etc.
Not so much when she is using it as an excuse for her assaulting a staff member.
By defending it you are excusing her actions.
“Whaitiri says there are certain parts of the report she agrees with…”
Can you show that she doesn’t agree that “probably” bruising the staffers arm is wrong? You claim she’s attempting to excuse that action; where’s your evidence???
The article.
People like you who minimise the assault really are part of the problem.
I wonder why you are fixicated on Key but are apologetic for Whaitiri?
Is it because she is a woman? Māori? Or are you willing to accept it because she she falls on ‘your side’ of the political fence.
Well, James, may I straighten out a few things for you?
Firstly, I’m not apologising for Whaitiri. If you can show me where I’ve done that, I’d be grateful (and very surprised).
Secondly, this thread is called “Open Mike”. It is not devoted only to the topic of the first comment made here. If I or anyone wants to talk about Key’s ponytail-pulling, they can.
Thirdly, I’m not “fixicated” on anything at all, though it sounds fun.
Fourthly, I’m not minimising Whaitiri actions or statements, you are assuming that I am. I did notice though, that the quote you provided said:
“The report into the incident found it was “probable” that the employee’s version of events was more likely than the Minister’s.” and I reckon I know what “probable” means and it ain’t “certain”, so I’m cautious about taking a concreted stance and notice that you are not so careful.
Fifthly, Maggie Barry’s situation is similar in many ways, but you seem unwilling to comment on it, demanding that the topic of your comment is the only one that can be discussed – that seems odd to me. Why is it that you won’t give your views on someone else topic, James? Barry’s situation as worthy of discussion as Whaitiri’s, surely?
you understand the difference between a thread and a post not.
If you want to start a thread on key – go for it. I’m sure you will get the usuals pile in. But if you are using the “reply” button try to keep it on subject.
James – though you may feel you have the authority to dictate what a person might say on a thread you’ve initiated, you don’t. A moderator here might remind someone to keep on-topic where one is set by them, but Open Mike isn’t such a post. In any case, being lectured by you about thread-jacking is beyond hilarious, so keep it up – you’re good for a laugh today!
Glad I make you smile.
You’re the Open Mike Sparkle Fairy, James, bringing light and love, bless you!
James, talk about flogging a dead horse … This subject was done to death here on TS and in the media at the time.
Were formal charges of assault ever laid against Whaitiri? No.
Was she found guilty of assault in a court of law? No.
Has she been punished for possibly bruising a staffer? Yes. On the basis of a review – not a formal trial in a court of law – she lost her ministerial positions and was sent to the back bench.
Does she have a right to continue to dispute parts of the review? Yes. It was not a formal finding by a court of law; she was not given her legal rights to be heard in a court of law, or to appeal. (See below.)
I have worked directly with/for Meka in the public service and detailed that experience here on TS at the time.
Here briefly on 31 August – https://thestandard.org.nz/facing-meka/#comment-1519566
And more detail here with a further follow-up two down from this comment.
https://thestandard.org.nz/facing-meka/#comment-1519865
As you will note, Meka worked both in the public service at senior levels and in Parliament (eg as a senior adviser to her mentor, Parekura Horomia, when he was Minister of Maori Affairs).
To have then been elected to Parliament herself after Horomia’s death, and then to be appointed to Ministerial positions under the new Government would have been a career pinnacle to Meka.
To then lose those positions on the basis of one incident which was then only investigated internally and not in a court of law (with rights of appeal etc accorded under the latter’s formal judicial processes) would have been devastating to her.
She has paid a heavy price for whatever took place that day – some would say too heavy a price, including not being afforded her rights under sections 24 and 25 of the Bill of Rights Act 1990 (BORA) – the rights of persons charged, and the minimum standards of criminal procedure.
http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1990/0109/latest/whole.html#DLM225528
Personally I understand why she may still be questioning the findings of that internal investigation. OTOH, having worked for Meka, I can understand that someone who did not know her and had only worked for her for a day, could misconstrue her. In saying that, in no way do I condone physical assault in any way or any circumstance.
We will probably never know what actually took place. However, we do have another principle in our Bill of Rights Act 1990 that Whaitiri would also have been entitled to if this case had gone to court – that is the principle of double jeopardy under section 26.
Perhaps, in terms of fairness and equality, we – including the media – should be applying this principle to other situations such as this one where the accused has not been given their rights to a court hearing etc under BORA but has nevertheless been found guilty in the court of public opinion and/or by non judicial reviews/investigations AND paid a price for those findings.
Yours is the comprehensive comment, veutoviper – makes the rest of us look like chumps 🙂
We will never know and cannot ever know.
Which means that people with the inclinations of James can depict it loud and long as Ms Waitiri ‘giving someone the bash.’
Assault? Insult. Insult to anyone inclined to have intelligent debate about anything in the country. As it stands the James’ of the world have the politician cast for life.
Much respect for your great reply.
I assume you would be happy with that principle to be applied to all – including national MPs?
Because that is something very much lacking on here.
In regard to the rest of your post – thank you for the detail, thought and effort you put in.
Yes, James – I absolutely believe in such principles being applied to everyone – regardless of race, religion, gender, colour etc including political beliefs and leanings.
Hence my comment(s) over the last day or so defending your rights of reply to claims made against you personally and to seek proof of those claims. eg https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-23-12-2018/#comment-1565009
Nothing to do with your political leanings – everything to do with your – and everyone’s – rights under BORA etc.
Graceful and gallant there V V.
As a woman, Ad, I have never been called gallant before, ROFL!
Not particularly physically graceful either! But will accept both terms as a compliment, Thank you.
Noted and appreciated
The effing search function doesn’t work. Bit hard to provide links to comments and conversations so one must go from memory instead.
You are very protective of James and I’m not sure why. Perhaps you are sweetened by the occasional saccharine reply.
Well said veutoviper. This was your area of expertise in the Public Service and I suspect your knowledge of this topic is far greater than anyone else who comments here.
Initially I was annoyed with Whaitiri for allowing her frustration to get the better of her but the more that comes out about the incident, the more I have some sympathy for her situation.
I think Mallard has hit on a long term problem inside Parliamentary Services. Both new ministers and parliamentarians in general – together with novice parliamentary staff members – are not given sufficient training on how to handle the various obstacles that must constantly arise.
In this case, it appears the new press officer to Whaitiri did not know it was her job to ensure that her minister was where she should be – in this instance standing with Jacinda Ardern for a photo. That is the primary task of a press officer to ensure maximum press coverage for their minister.
On the other hand it was wrong of Whaitiri to respond to the incident the way she did.
Both have acknowledged they were wrong which is more than Maggie Barry has done or is ever likely to do. Barry may not have physically touched anyone, but she has bullied individuals to the point they have felt suicidal. The effects of psychological bullying can be greater and last a lot longer than most physical bullying as anyone who has been on the receiving end will tell you. Unfortunately its the hardest to prove because the perpetrators are invariably cunning enough not to do it when witnesses are present.
Thank you. Both your informed comment, and veutoviper’s above, give me some hope for us all.
From reports at the time, it seemed to me that Whaitiri lost her roles because of how the discrepancies between the inquiry and her own account were represented to and received by the PM – not purely due to the inquiry findings.
As you say, we will never know and it is well-buried horsemeat by now. You’d think James would still be stuffed from xmas.
Mate. She had a staff turn over that makes Heathrow Airport on a Saturday seem quiet.
She assaulted a staffer.
She is now making excuses
How anyone can condone that is weird
Having a big staff turnover is bad? Is a sign the MP is terrible? Did AnneTolley have as big a turnover and office ‘personality differences’ as Maggie Barry as Meka Whaitiri?
On the subject of turnover, I actually covered that in one of my earlier comments back in early September – links in my 2.3.1.1.1.2 above, but might as well quote it here (with a few small edits):
… The investigation is being carried out by Ministerial Services (part of the Dept of Internal Affairs) as the staffer would be employed through Ministerial Services (MS), not Parliamentary Services (PS) who are not responsible for providing funding/staff for Ministers such as press officers, researchers etc. IMO and experience, MS are very professional and well versed in such matters as employment law, investigations etc – and are very thorough and careful. They have to be. They may well employ an outside independent investigator such as an employment law firm or similar.
RE the turnover aspect, the fact that many staff have left her Ministerial office is actually not unusual because of how the allocation of Parliamentary staff (both Parliamentary Service staff to MPs and Ministerial Services staff to Ministers) operates.
As I understand it, each of these Services have a pool of staff of various skills, qualifications and experience available for allocation at the beginning of a new Government which are then allocated to MPs and Ministers. Other staff are employed to fill any gaps, very specific roles etc. But it is all a bit of a ‘mix and match’ lolly scramble and the first year of a new Government is a bit of a shakedown period as MPs and Ministers and such staff find their feet and whether the employment relationships fit or don’t. So there are often big turnovers of staff during this period in particular.
I can think of many other MPs and Ministers over the years who have had similar levels of staff turnover – but some of them also had/have other employees who have worked for them for eons. One such is Winston Peters.
As well as MS and PS staff, departmental advisers seconded from the relevant Ministry(s) or Department(s) also work in Minister’s offices (as I did quite a number of times over the years).
Then yet another type of employees/contractors are political policy advisers/press officers whose sole allegiance is to their Party, Minister, Leader/Deputy Leader of their Party, MPs.
So Minister’s offices (and to a lesser degree MP’s offices) can be real mixture of people with different roles and objectives, different employers and employment contracts – all of which can add to the potential for things to be less than smooth unless managed carefully.”
It’s not good petey.
Bullshit. She is not using it to ‘defend her actions’. If you’d switch your brain on, you’d remember she denies the allegation. So she is not ‘defending’ something she says didn’t actually happen.
You are a bulkshit artist James. Just another racist pushing agenda and using people of color as sacrifices to your disgusting personal philosophy of racist hate.
Who agenda is this – she is the one raising race in regard to this issue.
Piss off noddy. Take your racism and shove it.
Can’t discuss the point huh?
I assume you were ok with her giving her staff member bruises ?
Marty – James has raised a point – YOU MUST DISCUSS IT!!!
Yeah racists love that shit. I think it really shows how ineffectual and woefully useless they are in real life.
Yes he MUST MUST MUST!. If he doesn’t, then James will know he’s a legend (in his own mind) and he’s won.
I hope to Christ he doesn’t work in one of those ‘teams’, or manage staff for that matter.
By the way – did you ever get to have that conversation with James?
I’d recommend you have someone from Mediation Services present – you know that MoBIE agency? With a bit of luck they’ll be familiar with this little mediator’s gem from the past:
“I know you believe you understood what you thought I said – but I’m not sure that what you heard is not what I meant”
OR pistols at ten paces might be a better option, and far more efficient and effective, if not pragmatic (going forward)
I assume you like beating up things James – bullyboys often do.
James has achieved his desired result for the day, pissing some people off on TS which was his objective when he put up the post this morning. Try not to feed the TROLL ?
You’re a racist troll too so why listen to a wanker like you?
Gee you are a grumpy puppy this morning arnt you.
Hope you cheer up for 2019.
Do your twenty something sons and their children, your grand children, know their 48 year old dad/grandad is an agitator on a left leaning blog site?
What age are the grandkids (plural) which you referred to yesterday, James?
Their ages have nothing to do with anything – other than for you to bring it up again and again and again.
Bummer
“People are being warned to stay from 12 Auckland beaches this summer as they are contaminated by human and animal faeces.”
https://i.stuff.co.nz/auckland/109449059/12-auckland-beaches-declared-noswim-zones-due-to-human-faeces-contamination
In other related news – commenters are being asked to be extra careful on open Mike today as a silly little boy James has code browned and spread his faecal matter all over the post. Please wash everything including your eyes if you read his shit.
Now you are just starting to sound hysterical.
Chill out – life’s good.
James
You didn’t add anything to the discussion with that comment. Why DYSTFU. The moderators can’t think of you as anything but someone starting flame wars.
So it’s fair to assume James has been swimming at all twelve of those affected beaches recently. One of those swimming nappies on his butt and another one covering his mouth could have prevented this unfortunate situation.
Lol
I swam at 5 of those beaches last summer snow I can’t. Thought this government was going to do more for the environment than any previous government?
Imagine a country where for ten years nearly, the roads have been poorly designed and maintained, there have been few mechanics and roading workers trained, where the vehicle fleet has been allowed to age, where trucks have been allowed to get bigger and bigger with consequent damage where promises for new roads and bridges have not been met.
That has been NZ from 2008-2017.
And then a tourist comes in 2017 and says “I drove these roads in 2005 and there was nothing wrong with them.”
But this is not about roads only. It’s about wages and working conditions, It’s about taxation favouritism. It’s about debilitating the unions. It’s about not spending enough on on vital infrastructure, on health and education. It’s about wayward priorities like flag referenda. It’s about running an economy on immigration and environmental degradation. It’s about poor regulation especially where it matters and then not enforcing laws and regulations properly.
It’s about nine years of poor government by poor politicians and senior civil servants, for the benefit of mostly of a proportion of the populace who are coincidentally not the poor.
Then the same tourist comes back a year later and expects it all to be fixed?
Probably the stupidest metaphor in a long time. It was fine a year ago, now it isn’t. It was fine every year before last, now it isn’t. It’s broken in the last year.
Guess the government is better at selling water than keeping it clean
No, Tuppence, the point is that the amount of effort required to fix, upgrade and rebuild infrastructure is immense. It is simply not credible to see a government deliberately run a country down and then demand fixes in the time frame you demand.
I have the money to fix a small amount of earthquake damage, but a dearth of tradesmen/builders to do it. They are busy for example building houses etc in our area for workers in a booming wine industry and for retirees coming into the area.
Have you a reference to back up your claim that all was fine in terms of the environment a year ago or did you luck it, or did you deliberately choose beaches which were swimmable at the time you chose from a wider selection of compromised beaches, as you would, of course.
This is what I can easily find.
16 Auckland beaches unswimmable in November 2017.
Auckland beaches unswimmable 30% of time- in early 2018.
10 beaches unswimmable in early 2017.
January 2017 60% of monitored rivers unswimmable. etc etc etc.
Your argument based on your probably wise choices last summer is not sufficienty robust evidence to argue that this a problem made by this government, not attended to by this government/local authorities or of a size able to be fixed within a year, given that much pollution is derived from agricultural sources and from human waste compounded by heavy periodic rainfall.
With the best will in the world, how long does it take to fix Auckland’s rainwater and sewerage problems to the point where there is no pollution?
Damn you Tuppence S. What did you leave behind you? When are you going to care about being a good thinking citizen. Everytime i read you it is something unhelpful to people trying to guard and better our environment.
Take only photographs, leave only foot prints.
So damn you, you old coot. What do you bring to the table that makes your contribution so special and worthy.
It’s your generation with the most to answer for. So fuck off
“damn you, you old coot” – “fuck off”.
A thought-free reply – infantile really.
Not to worry, Dr Smith is currently redefining quality standards to avoidt sinking to new lows.
That wasn’t a useful reply. You don’t add anhything to the discourse. You RW people just try to drag the blog down, and you certainly do manage to bring it down quite a few notches.
It’s not people who are trying to shift NZrs out of the muddy rut of cow poo they are in or tolerate, because as the quote above says.
“Do it tomorrow because we have got about five years before this hits our shores like a massive tsunami.”
Great work. – hard to actually appreciate how awesome this mahi is – as good as it gets. So many positives for individuals, family, whānau, communities and our country.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/108992047/for-vulnerable-mori-children-theres-nothing-quite-like-whnau
+ 100% will help a lot of young maori going forward, the dislocation from their whanau has been a big problem in the past, not just maori, but all cultures.
gotta make a dollar sir, just a dollar here and there and everywhere
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/coming-blackwaters-ominous-message-portends-new-trump-era-privatized-warfare/
Oh look, the internets are a scam.
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https://twitter.com/Chronotope/status/1078003966863200256
How much of the internet is fake? Studies generally suggest that, year after year, less than 60 percent of web traffic is human; some years, according to some researchers, a healthy majority of it is bot. For a period of time in 2013, the Times reported this year, a full half of YouTube traffic was “bots masquerading as people,” a portion so high that employees feared an inflection point after which YouTube’s systems for detecting fraudulent traffic would begin to regard bot traffic as real and human traffic as fake. They called this hypothetical event “the Inversion.”
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/12/how-much-of-the-internet-is-fake.html
Now for something completely different. Saw tonight a 87 Two Ronnies Christmas Show.
Very dated and corny but hey the wit was fantastic beats Master fucking Chef and other similiar shit hands down
A small sample of the wit
Ronnie Corbett advised that the Noise Abatment Society were going to sing Silent Night Just brilliant.
They are great.
This one still one of my favorites from anyone.
https://youtu.be/pV1IP4N9ajg
Same here Marty, just great.
The next generation know’s reality we can not rely on the Pollies to do the correct thing and use all the resourse the Papatuanuku has to build OUR grandchildren a Safer future well I just SEEN one yesterday spouting about spending $700 BILLION on Arms.
WTF we need to gift more to the poor countrys to help thy neighour servive Climate change sea level rising green house warming Risks of ‘domino effect’ of tipping points greater than thought, study says
Scientists warn policymakers not to ignore links, and stress that ‘every action counts’Policymakers have severely underestimated the risks of ecological tipping points, according to a study that shows 45% of all potential environmental collapses are interrelated and could amplify one another.
The authors said their paper, published in the journal Science, highlights how overstressed and overlapping natural systems are combining to throw up a growing number of unwelcome surprises.
Global warming melting UK dreams of a white Christmas
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“The risks are greater than assumed because the interactions are more dynamic,” said Juan Rocha of the Stockholm Resilience Centre. “The important message is to recognise the wickedness of the problem that humanity faces.”
The study collated existing research on ecosystem transitions that can irreversibly tip to another state, such as coral reefs bleaching and being overrun by algae, forests becoming savannahs and ice sheets melting into oceans. It then cross-referenced the 30 types of shift to examine the impacts they might have on one another and human society.Among the latter pairings were Arctic ice sheets and boreal forests. When the former melt, there is less ice to reflect the sun’s heat so the temperature of the planet rises. This increases the risks of forest fires, which discharge carbon into the air that adds to the greenhouse effect, which melts more ice. Although geographically distant, each amplifies the other.
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By contrast, a one-way domino-type impact is that between coral reefs and mangrove forests. When the former are destroyed, it weakens coastal defences and exposes mangroves to storms and ocean surges.
The deforestation of the Amazon is responsible for multiple “cascading effects” – weakening rain systems, forests becoming savannah, and reduced water supplies for cities like São Paulo and crops in the foothills of the Andes. This, in turn, increases the pressure for more land clearance.
Until recently, the study of tipping points was controversial, but it is increasingly accepted as an explanation for climate changes that are happening with more speed and ferocity than earlier computer models predicted. The loss of coral reefs and Arctic sea ice may already be past the point of no return. There are signs the Antarctic is heading the same way faster than thought. Ka kite ano links below P.S The kumara know how sweet it is
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/dec/20/risks-of-domino-effect-of-tipping-points-greater-than-thought-study-says
A new generation of women want to redefine ‘loud woman’ … (left to right) Lady Gaga, Michelle Obama, Geena Davis, Rihanna, Adele and Angela Merkel. Illustration:
In praise of loud women – the joy and power of being noisy and female Eco Maori has quite a few in my whano and I tau toko them as well Ngati Porou IWI has respected wahine for centrys we have had wahine toa/wahine warriors I say because of our culture we influnced wahine voteing.
Eco Maori tau toko’s wahine because its the correct thing to do they are the nurtures they are more intelligent than most men and when we get %50 of wahine in leadership positions OUR World will be a much better humane intelligent envirmentaly friendly Papatuanuku . My big voice was frowned upon when I was a girl in the 70s. Now, celebrities from Beyoncé to Michelle Obama Geena Davis are helping to tear up the idea of what a woman should sound . So, what are we supposed to do with the idea of loud women in our postfeminist age? Where have they all gone? Theresa May seems to maintain her fragile power by being the opposite of loud. Angela Merkel built a 30-year career on being as unnoticeable as possible. The response to Germaine Greer in recent years can be summed up as: “Shut up.” Is it no longer acceptable to be a woman and a noisy, loquacious pain in the arse? After all, the women we now think of as loud usually communicate through performance as larger-than-life versions of themselves: Beyoncé, Rihanna, Lady Gaga.
In everyday life, there is still something uncomfortable for a woman about being called loud, because the implication is that a) you don’t care about the people around you (otherwise, why are you making them feel uncomfortable?) and b) you don’t care what other people think about you. To allow yourself to be loud as a woman is to be borderline psychopathic – to switch off your empathy and your emotional intelligence – to love the sound of your own voice, to take up too much space. That is the theory, at least. (“Who do you think you are? Beyoncé?”
Ka kite ano links below P.S Thanks for the tau toko from around Papatunuku.
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/nov/06/in-praise-of-loud-women-the-joy-and-power-of-being-noisy-and-female
Here you go all the maori who think this system is fair and unbiest wake up. This is what maori need more money in education for the lower classes as we are at the lowest rung of life in Aotearoa ana to kai. As the upper classes get the top jobs in Aotearoa there elitist glasses only lets them see life from there point of view and in most cases is DOWN on the lower classes Hence a system were its all good for them to cheat and buy there way out of human mistakes and throw the warth of there system at the poor people who most times are doing things just to survive.
Inequality has been exacerbated since the education “reforms” enacted by the Labour Party government of 1984–90, supported by the trade unions and enforced by successive administrations. A “market” model was imposed on schools and universities, with self-governing boards tasked with imposing “business” disciplines and competition for students. In the early 1990s, many schools in working-class areas were struggling to survive.
In 1989, student fees were introduced and have increased almost every year. Tertiary study, including at polytechnics, has now become too costly for many working-class students. In 2017, it was estimated that the combined student loan debt of 731,800 people, with an average debt of $NZ21,000, was $15.3 billion.
Significantly, the material produced by the Herald shatters the assiduously cultivated myth that “disparities” in education are not a matter of social class, but are due to other factors, such as ethnicity and gender.
All governments have promoted identity politics to divide the working class, while elevating a small upper middle class layer, particularly among indigenous Maori. A virtual academic industry, abetted and funded by the MoE, is devoted . to sustaining the notion that Maori and Pacific students are worse off because of “institutional racism,” not class.
The insistence that ethnicity is the central cause of inequality has fuelled reactionary political agendas, including demands for racially segregated school systems and charter schools controlled by Maori tribal-based businesses. As in the US and Britain, these publicly-funded, privately-run schools were introduced by the National government to undermine public education and establish a bridge-head for widespread privatisation.
Social class divisions, however, are asserting themselves more powerfully than ever, as capitalism lurches more deeply into global crisis. Internationally, including in New Zealand, teachers and other sections of the working class are beginning to fight back. Primary school teachers held a 24-hour nationwide strike in mid-August, following an effective pay freeze for much of the past decade, and severely understaffed schools. Their primary demands were for a pay increase of 16 percent, smaller class sizes and more support for needy students Ka kite ano links below.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/10/02/nzed-o02.html
A dark tale of dispossession and greed
by Vincent O’Malley | Dec 9, 2018 | 2 | 6 min read
Vincent O’Malley
For well over 25 years, Vincent O’Malley, a Pākehā historian, has been uncovering and recounting many of the rich and often discomforting stories about how Māori and Pākehā have got along since they began sharing Aotearoa 200 or so years ago.
His most substantial book has been The Great War for New Zealand, where he explains what went on in the Waikato, especially in the wake of the New Zealand Settlements Act in 1863.
But here he focuses on the significance of that legislation — and the need for us to understand and remember it.But here he focuses on the significance of that legislation — and the need for us to understand and remember it.
When dates were being considered for the first Rā Maumahara commemorating the New Zealand Wars, one suggestion was December 3. That day doesn’t mark the anniversary of any particular battle or conflict. Instead, it’s the day in 1863 that Governor George Grey signed into law the New Zealand Settlements Act.
It’s an innocuous-sounding piece of legislation but it had devastating consequences for many Māori communities. The Settlements Act provided the primary legislative mechanism for raupatu — sweeping land confiscations that were supposedly intended to punish acts of “rebellion” while also recouping the costs of fighting the wars. It’s an innocuous-sounding piece of legislation but it had devastating consequences for many Māori communities. The Settlements Act provided the primary legislative mechanism for raupatu — sweeping land confiscations that were supposedly intended to punish acts of “rebellion” while also recouping the costs of fighting the wars.
It declared that where “any Native Tribe or Section of a Tribe or any considerable number thereof” had committed acts of “rebellion against Her Majesty’s authority” since January 1, 1863, their lands could be declared subject to the Act and seized for the purposes of settlement.
It was part of a package of measures passed by the all-Pākehā parliament to crush Māori independence.
Governor George Grey
Grey and his ministers had drawn up these confiscation plans before invading Waikato in July 1863 and, by August, had begun recruiting military settlers who were to be offered a portion of the seized lands in return for their services . Loyal” Māori could apply for compensation for their losses — initially in money but later including lands. But the Compensation Court process that followed returned only a fraction of what was lost, often in completely different areas and always under a new legal form of title that meant many of these lands were quickly lost to their owners. Ka kite ano links below
https://e-tangata.co.nz/history/a-dark-tale-of-dispossession-and-greed/
Kia ora Tekaea Aotearoa is paradise we have heaps of guess and a lot of people are traveling to there holidays it’s cool that the price of fuel went down.
It’s ka pai to see Pohorawiri marae getting a spruce up it will be able to cope with all the tangata whenua gathering well into the future.
The salvation army does a very good service for tangata whenua in Aotearoa.
One can see the results of nine years of smoky governments suppressing Maori and the poor people as more food parcels that are needed has risen sharply as of late.
ka pai to the horouta wake whine are shining brighter.
Ka kite ano
Kia ora Newshub everyone has to drive carefully in Aotearoa as the roads are packed and they are not 3 lane highways that our guest are use to hence the road toll is climbing .Condolences to the people who lost love ones in the Indonesia
It is not accetable that tamariki are dieing in custerdy in the USA boarder detention centers.
The Tauranga council just permeted to many houses to be built and did not have climate change in there plans and look what happeneds tutai in the moana
Good on Collin O’brady for his treck across Antarctica solo some one could not say his name I wonder why I know.
Its a real crime letting all those children starving in Yemen there need to be more aid sent into help the children.
Do you believe those stats on daved seenothing getting all those hits on trademe for twerking haha .Ka kite ano P.S Eco Maori has another word he has eliminated must be a reason they keep pushing thee other money