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Peters hit list so far – Seymour – Eagleson – Carter

Written By: - Date published: 6:23 am, September 26th, 2017 - 84 comments
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Peters has hardly cleared his throat yet and he’s already clearing out Nats and their proxies.

Seymour has been bluntly told that his services are no longer required – sucks to be Epsom.

Dirty Wayne Eagleson is moving on – good riddance.

And as Gower rightly points out, Carter is finished as speaker – long overdue.

Think Peters will stop there? Joyce and Bennett might be next. Bill English will agree to anything to cling to power. Peters is already enjoying humiliating him in public.

And this morning – Barry Soper: National purging those connected to Winston Peters pension leak

84 comments on “Peters hit list so far – Seymour – Eagleson – Carter ”

  1. Ed 1

    From that article.

    ‘She was his enthusiastic cheerleader during the hectic campaign but it seems Bill English’s deputy Paula Bennett’s not good enough to be on his coalition negotiating team.

    It’s a slap in the face for Bennett, but hardly surprising considering Winston Peters considers she was responsible for leaking his pension overpayment details in an attempt to damage his party.

    That cut deeply with the fiercely private Peters and could well be the National Party’s death warrant.’

    Make that list 4.

    ‘And National’s campaign communication director Clark Hennessy has also quit.’

    • alwyn 1.1

      “Bill English’s deputy Paula Bennett’s not good enough to be on his coalition negotiating team”.
      Meanwhile the Labour Party are demonstrating the paucity of ability they are likely to have in the New Parliament.
      Their team, according to RNZ reports will include David Parker. Grant R will “play a part”. Kelvin Davis is nowhere to be seen.
      However they are going to fall back on a couple of their retired members. Annette King will be there and so, apparently will be that long lost fossil from 9 years ago. Trumpet call for Sir Michael Cullen.
      If they don’t even have members capable of negotiating with a purportedly friendly party how can they possibly imagine they can run a Government?

      • Gabby 1.1.1

        All the real talent’s in business isn’t it alwy. Theo might be interested in doing it pro bono.

        • alwyn 1.1.1.1

          Pray inform me.
          What on earth are you talking about and what does it have to do with anything I said?

          • In Vino 1.1.1.1.1

            I understood it. What is wrong with your comprehension?

            • alwyn 1.1.1.1.1.1

              I’m sure you understand it my little green-eyed monster.
              ps. Look it up. Then there will be two things you understand. An enormous improvement I would say.

              You really have no control over your actions though, do you?
              Remember how you assured us that you were going to resist temptation?

              The election result

              • In Vino

                Yes, but your folly is sometimes irresistible. Theo is the grotesquely overpaid Fonterra man, seeing you still don’t seem to have understood.
                And I have studied Othello. Funnily enough, you remind me of Iago.

                • alwyn

                  You really are silly aren’t you.
                  Obviously I know who Theo Spiering is, and I find it very hard to see how his salary can be justified. So what? It is the shareholders of Fonterra who pay it. It isn’t my money.

                  My point was very simply what does his salary have to do with my comment.

                  However your description of him as “the grotesquely overpaid Fonterra man” merely demonstrates that my description of you as a “little green-eyed monster” is right on the target.

                  Why do you feel the need to attack people who are more successful than you so bitterly? It will only cause a flare up of your ulcers. Relax and take time to stop and smell the roses.

                  As for “And I have studied Othello”. My goodness. I am talking to a self obsessed intellectual. Wow!
                  You should have some admiration for Bill English, shouldn’t you? He has a First Class honours degree in English Literature after all.

                  • That aint fucking success, – that’s bald faced bloody corporate greed and you know it.

                    Fuck off with your bullshit.

                    Meanwhile some bloody poor bugger has got him and his family sleeping out there in a bloody car ya twerp.

              • Robert Guyton

                He said he’d try, not that he would. Read for meaning, alwyn, not just conformation of your bias.

                • In Vino

                  Alwyn pretends not to understand when in fact he does.. He is still doing so with Gabby’s original comment. Pretends erudition (telling me to look up ‘green-eyed monster’) then fakes his own, being superior no doubt to what he denigrates as a ‘self-confessed intellectual’.. Hypocrisy??
                  As for Bill English, it amazes me that in his general speech I can find no sign of the eloquence or articulacy that one would think would accompany that first-class honours degree.
                  Gabby accused Alwyn of believing only in the virtues of those from the “real world of business” and ironically suggested that Theo was his man.
                  Alwyn has only obfuscated and raised odorous red herrings since.

                  • alwyn

                    If you are going to quote me, and putting the phrase “self-confessed intellectual” as you do is a quotation, please put what I actually said.
                    I described you as “a self obsessed intellectual” and I remain convinced of the accuracy of the comment.

  2. chris73 2

    Which suggests theres a good chance of a National/NZFirst coalition which, ultimately, will be good for NZ so its a small price to pay

    • One Anonymous Bloke 2.1

      Or, Peters intends to take down Joyce, Bennett and English too, then go with Labour/Greens.

      • James Brown 2.1.1

        If that is the plan then what a beautiful thing that would be.

      • rhinocrates 2.1.2

        Strategically, it would be a good way to drive a few wedges into National and undermine Billshit’s hold on caucus to weaken it for the next three years. Whether Peters goes with Nat or Lab/Green.

        And fun to do it for lulz/utu. Humiliate him in public and then say “…nah.” He may as well demand that he stand in front of parliament in a tutu and do chicken impressions.

      • marty mars 2.1.3

        He could insist bill do the naked walk of shame/attonement down lampton and back to the hidden church of treasury.

    • Probably will be – after it collapses in disarray in 2018/19 after the housing bubble, which National has carefully propped up, bursts and their actions produce wild swings which makes it all worse.

      Then we’ll get a Labour government to come in clean up National’s fuckups as per normal.

  3. James Brown 3

    I thought at the time when National leaked details of the pension over-payment that it didn’t make any sense as they would prob need NZ First for a coalition govt.
    How could they have been so stupid?
    The lack of foresight seems staggering or were they just that blinded by their love affair with ‘dirty politics’?

    • Once was Tim 3.1

      Q: How could they have been so stupid?
      A: Simple born-to-rule arrogance

      • One Anonymous Bloke 3.1.1

        …also, they are actually stupid. Rat cunning is not intelligence.

        • Once was Tim 3.1.1.1

          Totally agree OAB. Many others would disagree with me, but that rat cunning is what JK had. But then they also called him charismatic whereas I thought of him as sleezy

        • Hongi Ika 3.1.1.2

          … definitely had rat like features and a rat like approach to fellow human beings ?

          • One Anonymous Bloke 3.1.1.2.1

            To be fair, and to paraphrase Lt. Ellen Ripley, you don’t see rats fucking one another over for a profit.

    • Ross 3.2

      JB

      Or National might have figured that Winston doesnt have any principles so they could attack him and he would still be prepared to work with them. Looks like they might be right.

    • It was most likely a high-risk strategy to try and push NZ First under the 5% threshold, which would have allowed National to rule outright with the vote share it has now. High risk = high reward, but also a significant chance of failure that puts you in a worse situation than you started out with. They’re now suffering the consequences that failure.

      • savenz 3.3.1

        It nearly worked too. NZ First down after the penion’s scandal. If NZ First go with National, looking at the fate of all their other partners, it will be the end of NZ First.

        Greens also nearly out after the Metiria scandal.

        Also TOP creaming off 2% of votes which are probably youth ones, helped Natz. Mainstream media were very good to TOP.

    • cleangreen 3.4

      James that leaking of the pension overpayments was Steven Joyce’s first faulty move then the $11.7 billion dollar hole is what will finish the creep entirely so he will be out the door sooner than he can say ‘sorry’.

      I will see a wonderful day arrive that day.

  4. Thinkerr 4

    Not a good sign, though, if it is shaking the welcome mat…

  5. Ad 5

    Bennett is off the negotiating team.

  6. bwaghorn 6

    let them have him , national eats it friend’s ,

  7. Hongi Ika 7

    It will be the death knell of NZF if they side with National ?

    NZ needs a Progressive Government who looks after the interests of all New Zealanders ?

    • BM 7.1

      Why? National has no natural coalition partner, Peters may see that as being the future role for NZ First.

      You may find part of the deal is that Shane Jones gets a seat in a safe National area, therefore, keeping NZ First alive once Peters moves on.

      That’s something labour can’t offer.

    • popexplosion 7.2

      Will Shane get in? If yes, then surely more likely Peters will go with the National party.

    • cleangreen 7.3

      100% Hongi Ika,
      It’s all simple really;

      I have met Winston several times as we fight to save the Napier Gisborne rail service.

      I know for certain Winston loves and cares for us kiwis.

      But when you turn attention in this manner towards the Bill English/SS Joyce combination, I have met SS Joyce twice and both times it has left me as though he hates kiwis with distain.

      Then as for Mr English;
      1/ I have sent him along with the former PM Mr Key 105 emails inside 5 yrs asking for a meeting through Wayne Eagleson Office of PM) and never once did he agree to meet us about rail.
      2/So both Joyce & English do not show any care or any compassion.
      3/Only Winston shows pure compassion to us and deserves our support.

      Kick the bloody tories out we say.

  8. Frida 8

    Loving it. I have the popcorn out. It would make my day to see the smirks wiped off the faces of Born to Rule types such as Collins and Joyce, and incompetent, “pull up the ladder” types like Bennett.

    • Carolyn_nth 8.1

      My first thoughts were, leave them at it. Let the Lab-Green potential alliance sit this one out and continue to build on simmering issues for the next 3 years.

      It occurred to me that NZ First was aiming to return the Nat Party to it’s pre-neoliberal days and people. And that may not be a bad thing in the long run.

      But then, there are all those powerful moneyed types with dominant positions in the Nat Party – can’t see them being dislodged by NZF. So, that could leave the Nats in turmoil – the Collins, Bennett, Joyce factions (and their backers) sidelined, but waiting for an excuse to derail NZF.

      Let them have at it!

  9. AAAAAAHAHAHAHAAA !!!!!

    And now Bennett , … Sweetie ,… the motel Lady.

    🙂

    Peters is like a starving wolverine let loose in the henhouse.

    • Hongi Ika 9.1

      Like 100%

    • Stuart Munro 9.2

      He hasn’t even got started.

      When you induce opponents to come to you, then their force is always empty; as long as you do not go to them, your force is always full. Attacking emptiness with fullness is like throwing stones on eggs — the eggs are sure to break. Sun Tzu

      • patricia bremner 9.2.1

        National are like the anxious bridegroom. Removing all aspects the new in-laws might object to.

  10. ianmac 10

    This clip from a campaign speech, if a true reflection of what NZF thinks of National would have most of National MPs on their backs and out for the count. Pretty damning stuff!

    “”Bill English goes around boasting that people want to come to New Zealand because we are a growing economy. Much of the world is a hell hole. Talk about post-truth politics.”

    He questioned when New Zealanders last felt they could actually trust a National MP.

    “Where trust is unreserved and you are glad you know that person.

    “Tell me, did you ever feel that way about John Key, Bill English, ‘Mr Fixit’ Steven Joyce or Judith Collins, or Paula Bennett or Nick Smith or Simon Bridges?

    “Trust has to be earned.”

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11926450

  11. Sparky 11

    Why would you want to align with a party under these circumstances. Sounds like a match made in hell to me.

  12. BM 12

    Bennett is no loss her only skill was the ability to fluff the right people, having said that it’s a tremendous skill to have when climbing the career ladder, I just think you need to bring a bit more to the table in politics.

    Also, her days on the DPB may have caught up with her, which will make it tough for her going forward politically

    Enter Judith Collins.

    http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2016/12/judith-collins-super-stays-at-65-will-work-with-winston-peters.html

  13. ianmac 13

    “The ‘dead cat’ masterstroke that may just have won National the election.”

    The Cosby Textor dirty tricks developed by Joyce.
    “Apply this to National’s situation. In August, Jacinda-mania was sucking up all the oxygen in the campaign. The more airtime and column inches the new Labour leader got, the more voters were going to hear about things Ardern wanted to talk about, like health and housing.

    National wanted the opposite of that. They wanted health and housing locked under the stairs. They wanted to talk about the economy and Labour’s taxes. Enter finance spokesman Steven Joyce, with his claim of Labour’s $11.7b budget hole.”
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/97215740

  14. prickles 14

    Interesting that Todd McClay is one of the negotiators. Winston and Todd’s father, Roger go a long way back. Look out for Todd stepping up through the ranks – I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see him as Prime Minister.

    • Michael 14.1

      I hope so, too, for that would all but guarantee a Labour government lasting for many terms.

      • cleangreen 14.1.1

        True that Michael,

        They need to remove the bombastic Steven Joyce as he has stuffed up twice now since last month firstly the $11.7 billion imaginary hole, then leaking of the Super overpayment.

        So he is now a liabilty and an ’embassasment’ unless he manufactures another phoney ‘diversion’.

        Meanwhle Winston watch your back mate.

  15. Upnorth 15

    Peter’s will not go with national.
    Nzf will not be there at next election. Ron marks and Shane Jones will jump ship.

    Amazing play by national

  16. tracey 16

    Wbich women are on the negotiating teams, and Maori…

  17. cleangreen 17

    I love watching the bloody Nat’s at the National Party caucus, while literally just hanging in mid air today at their caucus meeting.

    The Nat’s are so oddly reflective & demure and stunned by it all.

    They appear to be so uneasy at being left in this holding pattern rather than being so cocky as usual now?

    So I sense there will be a ‘night of the knives’ (like the night of broken glass) 1938 nazi style Germany now comming for Steven Joyce as they are seeking for someone to scalp for their demise. http://www.history.com/…-history/the-night-of-broken-glass

    Because they are now not enjoying being a proverbial ‘hung parliament’ now.

    The sight is so bloody wonderful.

  18. cleangreen 18

    Here is the latest over on Winston’s Facebook page Winston claims this Newshub stuff below where Paddy Gower said all that stuff is all fabricated as a big fat lie, & ficticous stuff and not where NZ First is going to go.

    Winnie is saying what ever Paddy said was not true and suggested paddy must be on some drug & needs to get off it.

    So Winston is actually saying they are making up lies now, so he won’t trust them for anything now, to go with the baubbles that Gower wrongly claims is being offerd to Winnie.

    So the National Party Propagandist SS Joyce & co are manufacturing false claims to destabilise NZ First it looks like now.

    http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/election/2017/09/patrick-gower-revealed-winston-peters-claims-first-scalp-from-national.html

  19. thevoiceofreason 19

    No cleangreen, Winnie said whatever you’re on you need to get off … seriously you see a conspiracy everywhere you look, sometimes the truth is just plain boring

  20. Delia 20

    Carter took so much pleasure in throwing Winston Peters out of the House, hope he enjoys retirement from the Speakers role. Nasty to NZFirst new MPs as well, chastising them like they should have known rules you only learn with experience. Nasty old Carter to the NZ First people, now you are paying the price.

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