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1. One Anonymous Bloke 1

   6 September 2014 at 8:22 am

   Slater isn’t deleting these posts, he’s ensuring that they’ll receive intense scrutiny. I checked one at random and it had Odgers opining on Hanover Finance.

   There isn’t a shredder big enough for these clowns 🙂
   • Morrissey 1.1

     6 September 2014 at 3:46 pm

     The ultimate shredder for these criminals will start operating on September 20th. Please make sure you get all of the people you know to vote.
     • One Anonymous Bloke 1.1.1

       6 September 2014 at 4:39 pm

       …and make sure they know they can vote right now if they want to.
2. mickysavage 2

   6 September 2014 at 8:32 am

   Wow that breaches all sorts of ethical rules and understandings about blogging. Time again for Canon to revise its awarding Cameron blogger of the year award.
   • tc 2.1

     6 September 2014 at 8:54 am

     Come on mickey rules are for the masses not the priviledged elite that habitate in and around the national party besides cameron is always doing the right thing just ask him he will confirm it.
   • Tigger 2.2

     6 September 2014 at 9:24 am

     Canon need to take it back anyway. Judge for his category was his pal Deborah Hill Cone, good friend to Cactus Kate also. Totally conflicted.
     • weka 2.2.1

       6 September 2014 at 9:45 am

       There was some discussion about Canon when DP first broke. I thought Canon said they can’t take the award back because they didn’t give it. Hill did. I don’t think they’re very happy about it though. Anyone got a link to that? It was on FB or twitter some weeks ago when the thing first broke, and was discussed on ts.
       • weka 2.2.1.1

         6 September 2014 at 9:50 am

         Here we go, it was Bomber talking to Canon on twitter. Basically Canon are sponsors and didn’t give the award. It’s worth reading their comment though, as they are obviously not happy and have raised ‘serious concerns’ with the award organisers,

         http://thedailyblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Screen-Shot-2014-08-16-at-9.42.36-am.png

         http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2014/08/16/hagers-dirty-politics-response-to-canon-nz/

         The people who did give the award are the Newspaper Publishers’ Association, who said this (same day as Bomber/Canon’s tweets),

         “This particular award was made by independent judge Deborah Hill Cone in recognition of Whale Oil having broken a major story relating to the Mayor of Auckland, Len Brown,” Mr Neville said. The NPA had not considered withdrawing Slater’s award, he said.

         “In the 40-year history of the awards, none has ever been withdrawn and it would be an extreme, highly unusual step.”

         It would only be justified if concrete evidence came forward showing illegal or highly unethical methods were used to obtain the story, he said.

         http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11309752

         My emphasis. Note that the award was given for a specific story (Len Brown) and the NPA seems to be saying that it would only consider withdrawing if there was evidence of ethical or legal issues on THAT story. Which is an interesting position to take.
         • weka 2.2.1.1.1

           6 September 2014 at 9:58 am

           btw, I know this is OT but here is the list of companies still supporting WO blog via advertising (according to Martyn Bradbury). I see Brian Edwards is on there, he seems to have been very quiet in the past few weeks, anyone been following his blog?

           Canon NZ

           Firestone NZ

           BNZ

           University of Auckland

           Bridgestone

           Symbio Yoghurt

           Metropersonnal.com.au

           Auckland Memorial Park Funeral directors

           iSentia

           Abbey Employment Law Specialists

           Brian Edwards Media

           Anton Heyns

           Trend Antivirus

           Capital Hill accounting

           Bookme.co.nz

           Queenstown Jet boat

           http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2014/09/02/soz-cam-paknsave-boycott-of-whaleoil-continues-time-to-start-a-boycott-list-of-companies-supporting-whaleoil-beginning-with-canon-nz/
           • lprent 2.2.1.1.1.1

             6 September 2014 at 11:32 am

             Brian Edwards and Judy Callingham have a generic adverts with google (from memory) which means that they turn up in all kinds of places.
             • weka …

               6 September 2014 at 11:42 am

               Can they not ask for WO to be excluded?
               • weka …

                 6 September 2014 at 11:44 am

                 I see Edwards hasn’t blogged since June. Is he involved in the election campaign?
           • disturbed 2.2.1.1.1.2

             6 September 2014 at 9:20 pm

             Weka, any trace back to Brian Edwards involvement with WO?

             Helen was saying pre election 2008 that she was disturbed that a change in the way politics was operated was coming, any connection?
             • karol …

               6 September 2014 at 9:30 pm

               I quick search shows quite a few WO posts attacking Edwards.
         • Tracey 2.2.1.1.2

           6 September 2014 at 1:04 pm

           And cone hill describes odgers as a good friend who gives giant soft toys to her children so must be a good person.
           • Anne 2.2.1.1.2.1

             6 September 2014 at 10:30 pm

             And cone hill describes odgers as a good friend…

             How very amusing. Our bright little c-grade media celeb ain’t so bright after all.

             At the end of the daaaay… I wonder how many more of them will be crawling out from under their Slater rocks into the sunshine for all to see.
         • RedBaronCV 2.2.1.1.3

           6 September 2014 at 8:15 pm

           “broken a major story relating to the Mayor of Auckland, Len Brown,” Mr Neville said. ”

           Well the NPA sets a very low bar for the type of story that wins an award.
           When all the dust had settled it turns out that the Mayor had an affair.Nothing to do with the council coffers, ratepayers or anyone else except Mrs Brown.

           Now excuse me but there are plenty of public figures who have been in the same situation including not a few newspaper publishers and reporters but not naming names. So if a dedicated website is set up for these stories then we can all contribute, and there are some good ones out there believe me, and this website will win an award?
           Frankly it’s on par with page 3 of the Sun revealing a, hitherto unknown to the general public, set of …. ….teeth?

           Rick Neville needs to take a long hard look at his criteria and the execution of it.
         • fdx 2.2.1.1.4

           6 September 2014 at 11:38 pm

           letter from Canon after I said I’d boycott their products, tell my colleagues etc etc. dated 17/8

           Thank you for your feedback regarding the recent Whale Oil controversy. We appreciate and understand your concerns regarding Cameron Slater’s comments and actions This is a very difficult situation for Canon as being naming rights sponsors we have no involvement or influence over the judging and selection of the awards recipients however we have raised our serious concerns with the event organisers, the Newspaper Publishers’ Association (NPA). They are currently reviewing the situation and we will update you with further information from the NPA as it comes to hand.

           We can advise the independent judge selected by the NPA gave Cameron his award for one specific breaking news story – the Len Brown affair. The award is not an on-going endorsement by Canon New Zealand, or by the event organisers, of any current or future stories/opinions Cameron Slater may be involved with.

           For further information please visit the statement from the event organisers, on the Canon Media Awards website. This also further outlines our position. http://www.canonmediaawards.co.nz/announcements/newspaper-publishers-rebuff-attacks-on-canon

           Thank you again for getting in touch with Canon. We truly value you as a Canon user and part of our community.

           If you have any further questions please do not hesitate to contact the event organisers.

           Kind regards

           Madeleine

           Madeleine Furley

           Public Relations & Communications Consultant

           Canon New Zealand Ltd | 28 The Warehouse Way Northcote Auckland | PO BOX 33 336 Takapuna

           P: (09) 926 9352 | M: (021) 448 336 | W: http://www.canon.co.nz
       • yeshe 2.2.1.2

         6 September 2014 at 9:57 am

         I wrote to them when this first broke out .. Canon told me they were taking it ‘very
         seriously’ and advbising NPA accordingly. I was writing as a Canon camera owner, and I must follow up again.

         My suggestion is for as many as wish to ring or write to Canon and simply make it clear you will not buy any of their product unless this is award is removed from Slater.

         Enough calls or emails from customers, they have to listen.
         • weka 2.2.1.2.1

           6 September 2014 at 10:00 am

           Good idea yeshe. It would be great to know how they have followed up on this and what the NPA’s response to them was. I bet at the time they were hoping it would all go away.
           • yeshe 2.2.1.2.1.1

             6 September 2014 at 10:06 am

             Just call or email and say you cannot buy a Canon product while this remains. Easy.

             Yes, I bet they thought it would go away !
         • Kiwiri 2.2.1.2.2

           6 September 2014 at 10:27 am

           Email address please?
           • yeshe 2.2.1.2.2.1

             6 September 2014 at 11:36 am

             don’t know if this will survive mods .. let’s see .. and fyi I wrote first to General Manager, and was directed here with a very courteous reply:

             madeleine.furley at canon.co.nz

             Madeleine Furley
             Public Relations & Communications Consultant
             Canon New Zealand Ltd | 28 The Warehouse Way Northcote Auckland | PO BOX 33 336 Takapuna
             P: (09) 926 9352 | W: http://www.canon.co.nz

             (or it’s online at canon.co.nz)

             and NB .. let them know this affects your purchase of future Canon products due to association with this well-known award, rather than just an attack on CS.
3. veutoviper 3

   6 September 2014 at 8:36 am

   There is discussion of this on Public Address’ blogsite on the Privacy and Public Interest thread (pages 5 onwards).

   Apparently there is the ability to delete from the Wayback machine using robots.txt.

   However, a commenter on PA (mpledger on page 6) has said that since 2008, the National Library has been harvesting the Whaleoil blog roughly every three months and Cactus Kate’s blog roughly every six months.

   http://ndhadeliver.natlib.govt.nz/content-aggregator/getIEs?system=ilsdb&id=1260618

   http://ndhadeliver.natlib.govt.nz/content-aggregator/getIEs?system=ilsdb&id=1305677

   So, even if the posts deleted from WO are also deleted from the Wayback machine, they should still be available through the National Libary harvests. LOL.

   Odgers is obviously deleting everything she can (eg her twitter account) and there are suggestions on the PA blog that she is trying to distance herself from WO rather than vice versa in view of the reprecussions on her professional life (eg no longer employed etc)

   How sad (not). Karma is wonderful.
   • Rich 3.1

     6 September 2014 at 10:09 pm

     It’s not necessarily deleted from wayback but wayback seems to check the robots.txt on the current site and restricts access if robots.txt says ‘access denied’.

     Of course robots.txt was little known 6 or more years ago and most sites could be accessed via archive.org but these days with more and more sites using it then archive.org isn’t even going to store it in the first place (as far as I know).

     You can always set something up to archive these sites yourself. I’m not sure what the law on this is, but you don’t have to take any notice of robots.txt if you don’t want to.
4. jaymam 4

   6 September 2014 at 8:50 am

   It looks like Brian Gaynor will get involved. “Details of what purports to be the contents of a leaked email from blogger Cameron Slater to Mark Hotchin and PR man Carrick Graham, dated October 5, 2011, particularly disturb me.”

   Hotchin lodged a defamation claim against the New Zealand Herald and Brian Gaynor for a number of his Weekend Herald opinion columns between November 2008 and March 2011.

   http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11319837
   • tc 4.1

     6 September 2014 at 9:03 am

     finnegin deserves examination also, not sure if he was a willing player or not but hes got alot of knowledge and probably kept some hard evidence just in case its needed.

     hotchin is still doing fine, especially with oravidas chief paying millions over the odds for his paratai drive palace. My how convenient all that tax free profit on sale.
5. Tigger 5

   6 September 2014 at 9:25 am

   Real journalists don’t delete their work. Just saying.
   • Te Reo Putake 5.1

     6 September 2014 at 9:45 am

     Not always! I was once mildly defamed by the NBR and when I pointed that out to the editor, the offending article disappeared immediately from the NBR website, never to be seen again.
   • Lanthanide 5.2

     6 September 2014 at 10:59 am

     Newstalk ZB or whatever it is that Sean Plunket is on removed a large swath of one of his programmes off their website because he “ambushed” Patrick Gower over claims that Paddy had advance knowledge of Dirty Politics.
   • Awww 5.3

     6 September 2014 at 6:32 pm

     We may get lucky and the whole site could be deleted.
6. just saying 6

   6 September 2014 at 9:35 am

   Cactus Kate seems to be one of the few who have paid any price for her actions as part of the GRWC club. She’s lost her job and looking down the barrel of an investigation from the law society. It would be interesting to know what’s going on with her.

   I have a suspicion that Katherine Rich will also experience some fall-out at some point.

   It’s interesting watching the chips fall – where they do an where they don’t.

   Ironically, CC might regret that she’s not as deeply well-connected as others involved who are more in the ‘political silver-spoon’ camp.
   • weka 6.1

     6 September 2014 at 9:54 am

     GRWC? CC?
     • just saying 6.1.1

       6 September 2014 at 10:58 am

       They called themselves ‘The Great Right-Wing Conspiracy’.
       • just saying 6.1.1.1

         6 September 2014 at 11:12 am

         That might have been ‘The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy they liked to call themselves, on second thoughts. Don’t have my copy of the book right now.
       • weka 6.1.1.2

         6 September 2014 at 11:50 am

         ah.
   • yeshe 6.2

     6 September 2014 at 10:03 am

     @just saying re katherine rich .. did you see this last night … promising and important ..

     http://tvnz.co.nz/vote-2014-news/key-asked-investigate-links-between-rich-and-whale-oil-6073716
     • Kiwiri 6.2.1

       6 September 2014 at 10:23 am

       Mr Key says he hasn’t seen the letter form the health professionals.

       “So my office will probably be dealing with that. At the end of the day we could take advice on that.”

       his orifice, his orifice, his orifice!
       • yeshe 6.2.1.1

         6 September 2014 at 11:30 am

         Have to wonder what might ever be significant or serious enough to demand Key’s full personal attention ?? Oh I know ..”There’s a call from _______ asking about golf in December ?”

         Someone should ask if it is Key or his orifice standing for re-election.
         • Tracey 6.2.1.1.1

           6 September 2014 at 1:08 pm

           Pretty sure he thought the world had ended cos clark knew that own glenn and peters had different versions of events and didnt go public. That prompted him to lie hugely about the standards he would uphold
   • Huginn 6.3

     6 September 2014 at 10:12 am

     To the contrary – Odgers is deeply involved. She has a lot of questions to answer about the nature of her job as a ‘tax’ lawyer in Hong Kong

     Skip half way down here:

     http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/08/new-zealand-prime-minister-john-key-the-whale-oil-blog-and-international-organized-crime.html

     Fran O’Sullivan is furious, and rightly so.

     http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/09/new-zealand-crooks-buddies-whaleoil-bounced-chief-serious-fraud-office.html
     • Huginn 6.3.1

       6 September 2014 at 10:34 am

       ‘So, worst case: Odgers is a crook, directly involved in Russian mafia moneylaundering, a $1Billion US Ponzi scheme, and the largest pension fraud in Australian history. If that’s how it is, then Key, via Whale Oil, looks a little too close to her.

       Best case: Odgers is a monumentally oblivious idiot, with an astonishing knack for working with, or for, large-scale fraudsters, again and again. Even in that best case, and somehow discounting Trio Capital and the Russians altogether, it’s still only two steps from the Prime Minister to the crooks (Key => Whaleoil/Odgers => Flader/Jeeves), and that $1Billion US Ponzi, and $314Million in US penalties.’
     • just saying 6.3.2

       6 September 2014 at 11:03 am

       I’m well aware she’s in up to her neck.

       What I meant was that I’m pretty sure she’s just a middle-class girl made good (Not quite the right word in the this case). Others in the case have deep connections within the political and business elites that they were born to.
       It might make it a bit easier to throw CC to the wolves and harder for her to get back up to where she likes to imagine she has come to belong in the years to come.
       • Skinny 6.3.2.1

         6 September 2014 at 11:26 am

         Nationals number 1 snake oil salesman Stephen Joyce activities need close scrutiny. Odgers has close links with Joyce, her tax dealings for rich Kiwi clients is very interesting. You can bet all sorts of meet and greets were going on in San Francisco during the Americas Cup with McCully, Joyce being the go between to crooked Katie. Notice the distance Key & English are keeping from Mr Snake Oil, I do!
         • disturbed 6.3.2.1.1

           6 September 2014 at 9:09 pm

           100% skinny,
           Joyce is a very slippery character, we once though after arranging a 30 minute meeting with him we would get some help and at face value his letter was o/k but that was a front only. another nasty back stabbing hollow man .
     • Rodel 6.3.3

       6 September 2014 at 11:14 am

       Huggin Thanks – Just read an excerpt from a ‘Cactus Kate’ post: She said:

       ‘Teachers, underpaid and undervalued find it easy to get laid despite not appearing on television or having a cent to their name. And that is with each other not even counting the times they get to shag the students’……..&……. ‘Television and journalism is not alone in the affliction of unchecked rooting.’

       What a ghastly unbalanced mind to write such dross. I guess like our award winning blogger she isn’t self aware.

       Surely it is time the law society vetted prospective lawyers with intellectual, psychological or mental stability tests to prevent people like Odgers, Williams, Collins etc. entering and tainting their profession.

       After all we wouldn’t usually let amoral nutters like this in as doctors, pilots , teachers or bus drivers.
       Imagine your heart surgeon with the same values as Odgers- shudder!
     • yeshe 6.3.4

       6 September 2014 at 11:23 am

       Huginn — the last comment on your second url link is by one sean mcafee on sept 4 — the best summation so far of Carrick Graham’s motiavtions and results … showing the underbelly why of the attacks on SFO and FMA were ‘necessary’ to Collins et al.

       OMG.

       http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/09/new-zealand-crooks-buddies-whaleoil-bounced-chief-serious-fraud-office.html
   • Chris 6.4

     6 September 2014 at 2:17 pm

     The timing of things makes it all the more interesting. If Key manages to ride home on the teflon amid the inquiries and investigations, however incomplete, pending or otherwise, a potential issue of whether they’re fit to govern could surely arise.
   • Chris 6.5

     6 September 2014 at 3:53 pm

     Are any of the media investigating the depth of Hooton’s involvement in all of this filth?
     • Tracey 6.5.1

       6 September 2014 at 5:10 pm

       investigating?

       BUWAHAHAHAHAHA
       • Chris 6.5.1.1

         7 September 2014 at 3:06 pm

         It won’t happen overnight, but…
         • Tracey 6.5.1.1.1

           7 September 2014 at 3:13 pm

           They did a nice fluff piece for him today, is that what you had in mind?
           • Chris 6.5.1.1.1.1

             7 September 2014 at 4:14 pm

             No, am thinking about inquiries later down the track. If there’s a Royal Commission etc. Odds he’s not in the thick of things must surely be low. He’s part of this group. His demeanor has also changed dramatically since all of this stuff broke. The truth will come out somehow.
     • karol 6.5.2

       7 September 2014 at 3:08 pm

       Good point given that Hooton in today’s SST, claims he was in with the VRWC fromt he start. Did he do blogging under the WO name? Did he repeat lines started on WO or KB in his MSM commentaries?
       • Tracey 6.5.2.1

         7 September 2014 at 3:14 pm

         Yea but they didnt ask that stuff…
7. jimekus 7

   6 September 2014 at 10:07 am

   The last one wasn’t old enough to make its way into the Wayback machine.
8. Rich 8

   6 September 2014 at 10:46 am

   Well the obvious good thing about this activity is that it takes time and it is probably something he doesn’t trust others to do. So he’ll be out of business in no time, as he won’t have time to despoil opponents’ reputations which, at the end of the day (ha ha), is what he gets paid for. (is this the worst profession of them all?)
9. weka 9

   6 September 2014 at 11:56 am

   Speaking of ethics, Sharon Murdoch’s cartoon on How to lose your moral compass,

   https://twitter.com/domesticanimal/status/508008846388785152/photo/1
10. risildowgtn 10

    6 September 2014 at 2:22 pm

    thanx for this. have got them all screen shoted and stashed
11. Inky 11

    6 September 2014 at 5:21 pm

    Very interesting that so many of the WO posts being jettisoned involve Catherine Odgers (aka Cactus Kate). Clearly she thinks it’s in her interests to do so and I wouldn’t mind knowing why. Something serious must be afoot.

    Incidentally, she should be referred to by her proper name, Catherine Odgers, at all times, not as Cactus. No matter how badly many of us think Slater has behaved with his blogging methods, it has to be admitted he had the balls to use his own name all along. And it’s to that name, rather than an invented one, the flying mud has stuck.

    In which case, it should be the same for Odgers. Her nom de plume was nothing more than a shield that allowed her to make her attacks anonymously, so it shouldn’t shield her now. Slater’s had to cop it on his chin, so let Odgers cop it on hers, rather than on the fictitious Cactus Kate’s.
12. Picard110 12

    6 September 2014 at 7:18 pm

    Oh Cameron, your chickens are coming home to roost you nasty idiotic man. May karma give you every single thing a foul creature like you deserves.
13. Kevin McCready 13

    6 September 2014 at 7:29 pm

    Each one I’ve checked is not in wayback machine and neither is at natlib. eg
    http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2014/08/uppity-tech-geek-gets-smashing/
    • karol 13.1

      6 September 2014 at 7:42 pm

      The National Library seems to only have selected copies online. Maybe the rest are held on an offline platform?

      Here’s what they have.
14. appleboy 14

    6 September 2014 at 8:13 pm

    Odgers…I know for a fact that all senior partners of her Hong Kong law firm received emailed links to NZ media reports about what she’d been up to – the light shineth on her darkness. Seems her bosses didn’t like what they read….

    She can try and hide but this will follow her for decades. That we can be very very sure of. The light will follow her wherever she goes from here on in, and the rest of them. Wait til the Law Society receives formal complaints re Jordan Williams. he’ll be next.
15. unsol 15

    7 September 2014 at 2:15 pm

    It speaks volumes about Slater’s lack of character that out of all the posts he chooses to delete he still has no issue with calling a West Coast car crash victim feral, or a 10 year old boy dumb: http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2013/03/sad-fat-crap-and-dumb/

    As for the rest – so completely pointless. I bet many people have saved his posts for future leverage/proof that he’s the scum of the earth so deleting now is just stupid. It merely highlights his guilt.

    Considering the way he has been freaking out at the media & hiding away I reckon he is losing the plot – it’s not the actions of someone who is proud of their actions that’s for sure!

    Interesting he is the first to declare sunlight is the best disinfectant, declare so & so is the cry baby of the week when they complain about being held to account and/or refuse to front up when the media knocks on their door yet this is exactly what he has been doing. Didn’t even bother to turn up to court.

    The guy has the spine of a jellyfish & it is time our media & NZ politics ignored him & the side-show he inevitably brings. He is an annoying distraction.
    • Tracey 15.1

      7 September 2014 at 3:15 pm

      And you will vote for a party that was complicit…

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