Too much noise

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1. karol 1

   1 December 2014 at 8:01 am

   Following the interview of Key on RNZ, the in house political editor (Brent Edwards) was interviewed. One of the points he makes is that there was no noise when Key was asked the question about txts from Slater.
2. music4menz 2

   1 December 2014 at 8:24 am

   Sorry to disagree but as someone who watches Question Time frequently on tv it is clear that the tv microphones do not pick up the amount of noise being made through interjections etc that is going on in the debating chamber. MPs frequently stop in mid speech because of barracking but tv listeners simply do not hear the noise that is causing them to stop. Unless someone was there in person I don’t think they’ re in a position to make a call on this.
   • mickysavage 2.1

     1 December 2014 at 8:29 am

     You have not watched the video have you.
     • Paul 2.1.1

       1 December 2014 at 6:23 pm

       Of course he hasn’t.
   • Draco T Bastard 2.2

     1 December 2014 at 1:38 pm

     I’ve watched QT as well and two of the things I’ve noticed is that when there’s a lot of noise 1.) you can hear it and 2.) there’s a lot of movement of the MPs as they gesticulate and half rise out of their seats etc.

     Basically, you talking out your arse to defend John Key.
     • B. Adam 2.2.1

       1 December 2014 at 7:54 pm

       Basically, you talking out your arse to defend John Key

       Just as Key does!
       • NZJester 2.2.1.1

         1 December 2014 at 9:34 pm

         John Key does not talk out of his arse. He had that surgically removed. Now everything including the shit all comes out of his mouth!
   • Colonial Rawshark 2.3

     1 December 2014 at 9:41 pm

     MPs frequently stop in mid speech because of barracking

     What a quaint Australian term you chose to use here.
3. Richard Christie 3

   1 December 2014 at 8:44 am

   The micro expressions on Key’s face are always a give away.

   At about 11 seconds in.
4. Lanthanide 4

   1 December 2014 at 9:06 am

   They highlighted this – and played the full clip – on RNZ Focus On Politics, which I believe airs on Friday and is repeated on Saturday.
   • r0b 4.1

     1 December 2014 at 9:16 am

     Interesting – thanks…
5. dv 5

   1 December 2014 at 9:17 am

   So he didn’t hear the question!!!

   So the answer is a guess!!

   Why didn’t he ask for the question to be repeated then?
6. red blooded 6

   1 December 2014 at 9:27 am

   This was a series of questions that lead closer and closer to JK. The fact that he stood so quickly (while the Speaker was still calling him) shows that he knew/had predicted what was being asked and was digging in his heels, trying to face down his opponent and having already decided to lie.
   • Draco T Bastard 6.1

     1 December 2014 at 1:39 pm

     +1
   • Murray Rawshark 6.2

     2 December 2014 at 12:59 am

     Yep, answering quickly trying to get it over with. Very telling.
7. Whateva next? 7

   1 December 2014 at 9:29 am

   If Little, or Cunliffe, Shearer or Goff had done anything remotely similar ( and far less, like wear a red scarf, or take a 3 day ski trip with their family in NZ) they would be toast by tea time.
   Key is blustering his way through , trying to neutralise his relationship with the vicious, venal blogger who serves no one but himself and his “friends” , by comparing his site to The Standard. WHAT ? Have you lost your mind Mr.Key, are you completely off your rocker now?
   • Hanswurst 7.1

     1 December 2014 at 9:49 am

     Have you lost your mind Mr.Key, are you completely off your rocker now?

     No. It’s just a mixture of his not being smart enough to come up with a convincing falsehood or witty replies off the cuff, and knowing that the consequences of his failings have never tended to be that severe in the past. He’s not blessed with much natural oratory or debating talent, nor does he have much incentive to put in any effort.
     • whateva next? 7.1.1

       1 December 2014 at 11:08 am

       you are right Hanswurst, and all that power has distorted his sense of reality, drunk on power at least then?
   • Enough is Enough 7.2

     1 December 2014 at 9:56 am

     Key is toast.

     This is the game changer. He can’t come back from this.
     • Hanswurst 7.2.1

       1 December 2014 at 9:10 pm

       I agree that he probably can’t come back. I’m just not entirely convinced that he needs to. Key has so much political capital to burn that anybody else has a long way to catch up in the popularity stakes before he needs to feel threatened, even if a significant amount of the gloss comes off him.
8. Chooky 8

   1 December 2014 at 9:55 am

   Maybe the noise is in John Key’s head?….( static, voices, ringing in the ears, brain fades…etc)….maybe he needs his head examined
9. Whateva next? 9

   1 December 2014 at 10:07 am

   Very good point Chooky……..perhaps he does have a conscience and it’s haunting him, maybe even a ghost of Christmas past?? Could it be Key will be our Scrooge?
10. Macro 10

    1 December 2014 at 11:14 am

    Key is showing signs of the onset of senility!
    Not only is his short term memory failing, but his hearing as well.
    /sarc
11. George Hendry 11

    1 December 2014 at 12:40 pm

    As noted by many here and elsewhere, when an election is not going on is when the bought and compromised MSM gets to pretend to be doing their job of holding the government accountable, in the hope of giving their lies more cred at the next election.

    Sure, with that many lies to be told it’s hard not to get caught with at least some of them. And it probably doesn’t feel that nice having quite rude and critical allegations made by some of the public that one is supposedly working so hard for. I wouldn’t blame the man for a moment if he were to resign having had a gutful of people’s lack of appreciation.

    It would be so easy if he were there for the public, but it’s hard because he isn’t. That Cameron Slater appears as needing a Prime Ministerial apology (quite rare, endangered species, more funding for DoC please) when others similarly affronted get none, hints at the others who also deserve profuse apologies, those behind the scene (conspiracy theory, unfortunately well supported by evidence or we wouldn’t need a media that spins as it does), in the dark pulling the puppetstrings, much bigger and richer, who will also get no public apology because we are supposed to believe they aren’t there.

    PM (after lunch, nearer the end of the day) :
    ‘Look, sorry guys you see I can’t akshly apologise for messing with your agenda but what about this, I cut the consultation period to 24 hours, gives them no time for a teabreak while they do it, and hey, u can watch as much bedroom footage as u like…’

    Build A. Burg :

    ‘Always said turnkey system works best’ (frantic sycophantic laughter in background…)
12. George Hendry 12

    1 December 2014 at 12:46 pm

    As noted by many here and elsewhere, when an election is not going on is when the bought and compromised MSM gets to pretend to be doing their job of holding the government accountable, in the hope of giving their lies more cred at the next election.

    Sure, with that many lies to be told it’s hard not to get caught with at least some of them. And it probably doesn’t feel that nice having quite rude and critical allegations made by some of the public that one is supposedly working so hard for. I wouldn’t blame the man for a moment if he were to resign having had a gutful of people’s lack of appreciation.

    It would be so easy if he were there for the public, but it’s hard because he isn’t. That Cameron Slater appears as needing a Prime Ministerial apology (quite rare, endangered species, more funding for DoC please) when others similarly affronted get none, hints at the others who also deserve profuse apologies, those behind the scene (conspiracy theory, unfortunately well supported by evidence or we wouldn’t need a media that spins as it does), in the dark pulling the puppetstrings, much bigger and richer, who will also get no public apology because we are supposed to believe they aren’t there.

    PM (after lunch, nearer the end of the day) :
    ‘Look, sorry guys you see I can’t akshly apologise for messing with your agenda but what about this, I cut the consultation period to 24 hours, gives them no time for a teabreak while they do it, and hey, u can watch as much bedroom footage as u like…’

    Build A. Burg :

    ‘Always said turnkey system works best’ (frantic sycophantic laughter in background…)
13. swordfish 13

    1 December 2014 at 6:17 pm

    Rt Hon J Key (0:10 – 0:15 of clip)

    “…..ah, When the particular question was asked there was quite a lot of noise in the House, you’ll remember that the Speaker asked me to actually repeat my answer and so I genuinely only heard the first bit…..”

    The implication being that the Speaker asked for a repeat because there was so much noise.

    And yet – as 0:54 – 1:05 shows – Mr Speaker asks for a repeat answer because Key had given it too early (while the Speaker was still in the process of calling him). Nothing to do with noise.
14. tc 14

    1 December 2014 at 8:15 pm

    Geez what next from shonkey, fingers in his ears going la la la.

    It’s gone way beyond a joke in parliament to the point it’s almost surreal and pythonesque.
    • North 14.1

      1 December 2014 at 8:47 pm

      ShonKey Python !
      • spades' A spade 14.1.1

        1 December 2014 at 10:38 pm

        Geniotic. I Love it.
15. NZJester 15

    1 December 2014 at 9:44 pm

    If key made the amended statement that he made a mistake in his reply as he did not hear the question due to noise and the evidence is clear no such noise existed, is he still not misleading parliament over the matter?
    The Only noise was during his answer not during the question itself.
    • Murray Rawshark 15.1

      2 December 2014 at 1:10 am

      Still not an objective measure, unfortunately. I don’t know what the standard of proof for misleading the house is, but I doubt if the usual “reasonable citizen” approach works with Parliament. Tracey might know.
16. peterlepaysan 16

    1 December 2014 at 10:00 pm

    Key is a puppet, always has been. Crosby Textor pull the strings.

    Wall Street tell CT what to do and JK obliges.

    Now the Teflon is falling off their poster boy maybe the lazy msm might start asking real questions.

    Undoubtedly there are factions in the Nats that are sharpening knives.

    Purportedly there is an ancient Chinese curse along the lines of “May you live in interesting times”.

    Shonkey has just met those times.
17. NZJester 17

    1 December 2014 at 10:12 pm

    Some Questions:
    1: If a reason for making an amendment to a record is proven false by available evidence, should that amendment then be considered to be invalid?
    2: If an amendment if found to be invalid should the original statement be considered the current valid statement of record?
    3: Will he be allowed to amend the amendment to make it valid?
18. spades' A spade 18

    1 December 2014 at 11:43 pm

    They have people like Dohn Key in place, partly, so the public have someone to blame/hate for the insane attributes of the COVERT slave system otherwise known as Earth. We feel better if we have someone to blame and this causes us to not investigate anything/anyone higher/deeper – because we think we already know who the culprit is/are.
    It would be very naive for us to not consider who the next “Dohn Key” will be. Who is the next person that the puppet-masters will employ as their “agenda propagation officer”?
    We all remember that Dohn Key was, in the first place, selected because of his so-called ability to dig our country out of financial strain. This is important to note because it’s a very big clue as to how to spot the next puppet.
    They take advantage of current crisis for the purpose of convincing the public that they need the next puppet to alleviate the current overarching issue or crisis.
    As far as I can tell – when I look at the current world crisis, there is one which stands out. It is the issue of “Climate Change”. So I am guessing that the next puppet will be brought into office through the Climate Change issue/crisis.
    I can’t see a puppet being brought in through the ISIS crISIS – definitely in the USA, but not here, however I wouldn’t rule it out completely.

    Who put the saddle on the Dohn-key? And who is holding the Dohn-keys reigns. I’ll tell you who reigns… Kings and Queens reign.
    • NZJester 18.1

      2 December 2014 at 6:02 pm

      Actually John Key’s family might have given him the Jamaican form of John as his first name. You pronounce the J in the Jamaican way with a (sh) kind of sounding J. If you have ever heard a Jamaican say John it does sound a lot like they are saying (Shon).
      • spades' A spade 18.1.1

        16 December 2014 at 12:44 pm

        What I was implying with the naming was Donkey. Dohn-Key.
        You know – a donkey being controlled by a jockey, just like a political puppet gets controlled by their masters.
        It was a joke based observation which may have gone ‘over the top’ of many peoples heads.

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