Wages rise faster than inflation!

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1. Uturn 1

   2 May 2012 at 8:04 am

   Crikey, it sounds so depressing.

   “How are you today, better-average-wage-earner, Joe?”

   “Oh, well, I’m ok. I feel 0.4% better off than of late, but somehow strangely unfulfilled. It’s as if my satisfaction has been decreasing by up to 50% over the past few months.”

   “It sounds like you’re living a wage growth graph.”

   “It feels like it.”

   “Still, it could be worse, Joe. I heard those poor people live a pie graph and they’re practically starving.”
2. Carol 2

   2 May 2012 at 8:13 am

   Has the average wage risen for those with the bottom 50% incomes? and is it equal to the rise for those in the top half?

   I see public sector wages only rose 1.6% with all the increase above inflation in the private sector.

   And there’s this in the above linked Stuff article

   However, the sudden jump reflected the impact of lower paid part-time workers dropping out of the workforce, with remaining higher paid full-time workers lifting the average pay rise.
   Statistics NZ said that in the past year fewer paid hours and part-time employees in some industries such as education and training had contributed to the rise in average hourly earnings.

   “While gross earnings continue to rise, paid hours and part-time employment have fallen for a few industries,” industry and labour statistics manager Diane Ramsay said.

   “Part-time jobs generally have lower average hourly earnings than full-time.

   This coupled with the fall in part-time employment has contributed to average hourly earnings rising faster than wage inflation, as measured by the Labour Cost Index.
3. fatty 3

   2 May 2012 at 8:33 am

   “Has the average wage risen for those with the bottom 50% incomes?”

   Exactly…what has “average wages” got to do with the average kiwi?
4. Jim Nald 4

   2 May 2012 at 8:40 am

   “would like to see wages drop”
   • David H 4.1

     2 May 2012 at 10:54 am

     Why would you want wages to drop??
     • Draco T Bastard 4.1.1

       2 May 2012 at 11:16 am

       He’s quoting John Key.
5. Afewknowthetruth 5

   2 May 2012 at 8:44 am

   Anyone intersted in the topic of inflation need only watch Chris Martenson’s Crash Course to quickly realise that all infaltion figures generated and released by governments are rigged to massively understate inflation.

   GDP figures are similarly rigged to massively overstate them.

   Hence, everything actually get worse by the day but most people still do not realise it.
   • Rusty Shackleford 5.1

     3 May 2012 at 1:05 pm

     You have to hide the run on effects of central banking some how. It would cause a revolution if people realised they are being robbed incrementally day by day.

     Bunji seems to be calling for the RB to cut the OCR in this article, so we can only assume he’s in favour of inflation.
6. Pete 6

   2 May 2012 at 9:00 am

   Of course, everyone with a student loan is going to get another 5% sucked out of what they make.
   • infused 6.1

     2 May 2012 at 11:05 am

     So they should.
     • Draco T Bastard 6.1.1

       2 May 2012 at 11:17 am

       No they shouldn’t. In fact, all student loans should be forgiven, student fees dropped and education institutions fully funded.
       • Enough is Enough 6.1.1.1

         2 May 2012 at 12:08 pm

         I have paid 90% of my 50k student loan off.

         Many of my friends have paid their whole loan off.

         Does your pproposal to forgive loans also inlcude the government repaying me $45000?
         • felix 6.1.1.1.1

           2 May 2012 at 12:14 pm

           Does your suggestion that they shouldn’t be forgiven include taking fees from everyone who went to uni before 1990? (With interest, presumably)
           • Enough is Enough 6.1.1.1.1.1

             2 May 2012 at 12:20 pm

             I raised a question, not a suggestion.
             • felix …

               2 May 2012 at 1:28 pm

               Sorry, I thought you were suggesting that student loans shouldn’t be forgiven because it would be unfair on people who have already paid them off.

               My mistake.
         • Draco T Bastard 6.1.1.1.2

           2 May 2012 at 1:40 pm

           Wow, how’d I know some fool would come up with that question? But, hey, I can answer – Retrospective legislation is bad.
           • Enough is Enough 6.1.1.1.2.1

             2 May 2012 at 2:00 pm

             Draco

             We are on the same left hand side of society so calling someone a fool is a little bit over the top and counter-productive to whatever your objective is.

             Like most of your suggestions this one is naive in the extreme. They belong in this unattainable yet wonderful socialist nirvana that you think we are destined for. Back in the real world, no contender for government from Act to to the Greens will ever write of existing student debt.

             Free education yes. But treating hard working kiwis making a difference in New Zealand, different from those that have taken off to the UK to avoid their debts is foolish. Good luck selling that policy.

             Your intentions are sound. To make a better New Zealand for ALL. But really your extremist language and ideas are so unplatable to almost all from the right to the left, they are as I pointed out above counter-productive to the Labour movement.
             • Draco T Bastard …

               2 May 2012 at 3:14 pm

               You were a fool for asking a question with a self-explanatory answer.

               Back in the real world, no contender for government from Act to to the Greens will ever write of existing student debt.

               Present economic systems aren’t related to the real world in any way, shape or form. In fact, they’re based around an exponentially growing economy to pay off interest charged on money printed by the private banks with little or no limit.

               But treating hard working kiwis making a difference in New Zealand, different from those that have taken off to the UK to avoid their debts is foolish.

               I wouldn’t be treating any of them differently at all.

               But really your extremist language and ideas are so unplatable to almost all from the right to the left, they are as I pointed out above counter-productive to the Labour movement.

               Reality is an extremist position from today’s society and thus it requires extremist language. If you’re upset by this then I suggest that’s your problem.
7. Poission 7

   2 May 2012 at 10:11 am

   The high rate of the NZ dollar is the main driver in wage constraint,decreasing the returns of NZ producers which would increase local investment,reduce debt,and increase local job growth.

   The increase in the rate of subsidized imports from say china,whilst deflationary is a significant problem from local producers.

   The foremost singular change in the economy would be a decrease in the NZ forex rate ,which would entrain an increased wealth redistribution to NZ.
   • Rusty Shackleford 7.1

     3 May 2012 at 1:07 pm

     “The foremost singular change in the economy would be a decrease in the NZ forex rate ,which would entrain an increased wealth redistribution to NZ.”

     err… from whom to whom? From people who buy petrol, pharmaceuticals and household appliances to farmers? Sounds like a fair deal.
     • Poission 7.1.1

       4 May 2012 at 5:59 pm

       The current account imbalance is a bigger problem then the govt deficit.The revaluation in the nz exchange rate around 12% in the 12 month period has had a significant effect on external trade.Around 4.5 % yr on yr and a decrease in staff of 5.65% in the same period.

       The under utilization of manufacturing capacity has slipped from 82-77% with domestic sales still increasing by around 13% ,This provides a substantive potential in the sector before increased investment is required.

       The RBNZ has implemented a number of changes such as an increase in the Retail Banks requirement for long positions.

       http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1205/S00079/rbnz-must-continue-to-add-tools-to-monetary-policy.htm

       That there needs to be policy from Govt on the investment mindset is clearly evident for the housing sector,something that is being signaled from other central banks.and the requirements for additional tools etc.

       http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/9242592/Sir-Mervyn-King-admits-BoE-failed-over-financial-crisis.html
8. infused 8

   2 May 2012 at 11:00 am

   Good news is, Aussie is about to hit the shitter. Something I’ve been saying for along time. Everything there is stagnant. Average time to sell a house in some parts is 1 year.
   • felix 8.1

     2 May 2012 at 11:45 am

     Ooh that is good news. It’s about time they stopped buying so much of our exported produce, that’s getting to be a real drag.

     And with any luck there’ll be tens of thousands of kiwi expats coming back home to look for jobs that aren’t here and compete for accommodation we already can’t afford too.

     .
9. KJT 9

   2 May 2012 at 1:03 pm

   This is a real fudge. Typical RWNJ statistics.

   Average wages have been pushed up by 17% rises at the top end and the loss of many jobs at the bottom.

   Median wages or ordinary time rates give a more realistic picture.

   At the same time real inflation, of the things people on low to moderate incomes buy, has been considerably more than 10%.

   Food. power, petrol, transport and housing have risen while things that only the wealthy can afford have dropped.

   A basket of groceries in Northland has risen nearly 20% since the same time last year.

   A 40% drop in the price of 56 inch flat screen TV’s and new BMW’s does not help most people make ends meet.
10. Foreign Waka 10

    2 May 2012 at 7:16 pm

    Maybe we all have to buy another 56 inch flat TV to really feel the benefit of this extraordinary feel good factor. On a low interest loan – hurry because this is another “saving”. Meanwhile, winter is here and the power prices are rising. Which will just be the beginning. Once the companies are privatized and have to provide a ROI of ever increasing rates, the bill may be $0.00 – no power. Use blankets, wear all the clothes you can get from Sally’s -and yet another saving. Cooking? Not needed, veges are too expensive and meat, well….. better get a special from a Takeaway. See, budgeting 1-2-3. Easy as. With these fantastic increases in wages outstripping inflation, one can tell that this Government is really looking after you. And once the statistical basket for this measure contains a new car, things really will get a lot better because we all know used cars are getting far too expensive.

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