XT Outages

Written By: - Date published: 1:30 pm, February 1st, 2010 - 57 comments
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Last week thousands of Telecom XT network customers were without service, some for three days. This comes just weeks after a similar outage last December. It makes a mockery of Telecom’s claim of “five nines” (99.999% reliability).

A recent post at by Peter Griffin at Sciblogs (a site for NZ science bloggers) tears Telecom a new one over the outages

Telecom’s mobile network architecture is flawed to the extent that if one of its two RNC switches for the country fails, the other one cannot take over for the whole country. The XT network was meant to breathe new life into Telecom. Instead, it has come to symbolise what is wrong with the company.

…and much more. But bad as such fiascos look for our Titans of the private sector, when it comes to making a mess of our communications infrastructure the Government still has them beat:

Govt ‘asking for a disaster’ on broadband

Australasian telecommunications specialist Paul Budde laid into New Zealand’s $1.5 billion plan for ultra-fast broadband yesterday, saying he didn’t see how anybody could respond to a tender to take part in the project. Budde says he has grave doubts about the outcome of the initiative due to a lack of information about the shape of the network, applications and the regulatory environment. …

Budde is also critical of the local fibre company structure. He says telecommunications is about scale, and the proposed 33 local fibre companies will not be large enough to deliver affordable services.

“It’s totally ridiculous. It’s not going to work. You are asking for a disaster,” he says

Is NZ going to keep up in an increasingly wired world? Perhaps we the “consumers” should send some “market signals”. There are alternatives to Telecom. And there are alternatives to a National led government…

57 comments on “XT Outages”

    • Bright Red 1.1

      That’s the first time anyone has sent me a link to Bromhead without including the words ‘how does this man get work?’

      To be fair, it’s one of his better ones in that it isn’t totally stupid or self-contradictory, and doesn’t miss the point. There’s even a bit of wit to it.

      Back in the 60s, Bromhead was drawing anti-feminist cartoons. Saw them at the National Library. They’re pretty weird stuff.

  1. Jim Nald 2

    John Key sold the idea of ultra fast broadband as part of National’s infrastructure policy to voters when he campaigned in 2008. But now real action and progress feel like they are moving slower than dial-up speed.

  2. Lanthanide 3

    I’ve always maintained that the broadband policy was a blatant vote-grab for the 15-35 year old males who download things of P2P networks and don’t have any interest in politics. They see National promising faster broadband and so vote for them, regardless of when, what cost or under what terms this broadband would be delivered (eg, new laws that crack down on piracy).

    • Dean 3.1

      Yes, because business doesn’t need fast broadband for telecommuting or handling larger volumes of traffic for any reason at all. They’re all quite happy with the current status quo and it’s ALL because of P2P traffic.

      What a moronic thing to say, Lanthanide.

      • felix 3.1.1

        Yeah what’s holding kiwi businesses back is the lack of videoconferencing.

        Definitely.

        • Dean 3.1.1.1

          Not just videoconferencing, but attachment sizes and the speed of transferring data.

          If you’ve never been in the position of having to have done so, I guess you would think it was pretty amusing.

          • felix 3.1.1.1.1

            Oh I understand the importance for the tiny minority companies who give a monkey’s. It’s just that I also understand the relative insignificance to the huge majority of businesses who never need to deal with large file transfers.

            The files I shunt around the place are anywhere from 50 to 150 MB so I’m not unaffected either. I just think you’re vastly overestimating the number of votes to be gleaned from concerned business people in this area.

            • Dean 3.1.1.1.1.1

              What’s the attachment size limit most ISPs enforce, felix?

              • felix

                No idea. No-one sends large files by attachment.

              • Lew

                No-one competent. Which means tens of thousands (millions!) of people do it every day. And they expect it to work. And in 2010, I reckon it should.

                L

              • infused

                I get asked every week why they can’t send an email over 10mb. Try actually dealing with small businesses felix.

                • lprent

                  Usually because the receiving mail server limits the size of attachments or has other limits. Frequently the anti-spam/virus checkers cause timeouts. But usually it isn’t the transmission of the data unless you have a lot of people clogging the internet link. Often that happens because they don’t check what connections are moving and have peer2peer connections running (which would soak up even much wider pipes)

                  In my experience, it isn’t the connections that is usually the problem. It is those other issues. However people tend to blame the pipes. There is a simple check for the pipe on ADSL – just look at speeds at the router. That is a function of how far you are from exchange/booster on ADSL.

                  Lyn sometimes has problems moving multi-gigabyte files – but that is because she uses http as the transport protocol. Resumable ftp would be a lot simpler.

                  • Dean

                    “Usually because the receiving mail server limits the size of attachments or has other limits. Frequently the anti-spam/virus checkers cause timeouts. But usually it isn’t the transmission of the data unless you have a lot of people clogging the internet link. Often that happens because they don’t check what connections are moving and have peer2peer connections running (which would soak up even much wider pipes)”

                    Receiving mail server attachment limits are a thing of the past. That’s just a nonsense that expired when the year 2000 rolled around. The only people who have this problem are the ones who have an ISP mailbox, and theres no excuse for that anymore.

                    ” But usually it isn’t the transmission of the data unless you have a lot of people clogging the internet link. Often that happens because they don’t check what connections are moving and have peer2peer connections running (which would soak up even much wider pipes)”

                    Traffic shaping and QOS doesn’t exist? News to me. Even a small or micro business can afford such things these days – they’re either cheap or essentially free.

                  • felix

                    I’m surprised that you can sit by and watch someone struggle with http transfers Lynn 🙂

                  • infused

                    Alot of those issues you describe would affect a home user, not a business user.

              • lprent

                Typically about 1-20MB on most mail servers. But it varies a hell of a lot. It is one of the reasons that you use your own mail servers.

                But the restriction is mainly there because of the processing times for anti-virus and anti-spam filters rather than then transmission speeds.

            • Richard 3.1.1.1.1.2

              In my experiences, heaps of business people like to email bloated excel spreadsheets and (less commonly) database files. Excel spreadsheets can fairly easily get into the 10-100MB size category.

              Another favourite, large attachment, is pdfs that have been created by scanning a document (rather than created electronically). Which is often caused by someone doing something like printing a document, signing every page, scanning the whole thing and then emailing it back again.

              Pdfs of catalogues, that have been created electronically, but contain lots of pictures suitable for high quality printing are quite common large size attachments too, as are powerpoint presentations.

              Of course, there are many strategies for keeping such documents to a manageable size, or ways other than email attachments of distributing them — but the average computer user doesn’t bother. They just expect email to work with large attachments.

      • Lanthanide 3.1.2

        Business already has access to “fast” broadband. Any business that wants to use it for “telecommuting” simply has to pay the price. These services are not cheap, and it is unlikely that rolling out a new billion dollar network is somehow going to be magically cheaper (they have to pay for the rollout somehow).

        Whenever you see anything about the new “super-fast” broadband, about the only concrete example of what it will be used for is streaming television to people’s homes. Whoop-de-do, that’s really going to improve our productivity by letting people sit on their couch.

        As Iprent points out, if you’re concerned about “attachment size” on your emails, then you shouldn’t be using whatever email address it is that you get from your ISP. “super-fast” broadband is unlikely to change that policy.

        What other people have pointed out in the past, is that the best bang for buck in terms of broadband penetration would be to concentrate on rural areas, where delivering broadband to farmers and small towns could actually improve their productivity significantly, especially in places where broadband is unavailable and connections are unreliable. However the plan that has been laid out by the National government focusses on the 20 (25?) largest communities in the country, and the rest get zippo.

        FYI, I actually work as a software developer for a company that designs switches and routers for the internet, so I do actually have a clue what I’m talking about.

  3. infused 4

    Well, the fiber in Wellignton is being laid by Citylink via Smartlynx3 for the Hutt. They are quite reliable to be honest.

    Two different things.

    Also, both outages were different issues. The fact that they have replaced hardware at all sites indicates some sort of hardware issue,

  4. RedLogix 5

    Spare a thought for the poor sods at the coal-face who have probably been working some very long, stressful hours dealing to this issue. As a techie myself I know just how hard it can be to resolve this kind of issue with complex new systems.

    It’s moments like this when you need seven arses, so as they can all be kicked at once.

  5. Steve 6

    The Govt should buy back Telecom. Only then we will find it is just as fucked as a train set. Telecome needs rebranding, renaming.
    “PELICAN” is a good name, then they can both stick their bills up their arse

  6. Draco T Bastard 7

    He says telecommunications is about scale, and the proposed 33 local fibre companies will not be large enough to deliver affordable services.

    And Labour aren’t any better – they keep going on about regional telecommunications companies. It’s the completely delusional “competition will save us!11!!!” BS.

    1 SoE, 1 network. Fixed. It is the most efficient structural model and that’s how Telecom has maintained its dominance.

    If all those billions of dollars of profits that have been siphoned out of Telecom over the last 20 years since the sale had been put back into the network like what was happening before the sale ($272m in 1985, $300 1987, etc) we wouldn’t have to be promising billions of dollars of subsidies to the private profiteers.

    • Dean 7.1

      “If all those billions of dollars of profits that have been siphoned out of Telecom over the last 20 years since the sale had been put back into the network like what was happening before the sale ($272m in 1985, $300 1987, etc) we wouldn’t have to be promising billions of dollars of subsidies to the private profitee”

      That’ll explain why it took 3 people to put a phone line on to a house in 1984-6, and why it took anywhere between 3-6 weeks, if not months. I can also remember my mother saving a little money from her DPB for WEEKS to be able to afford a 10 minute call from me to my grandmother in the UK.

      As someone who was affected (medical issue which a GP advised a phone call to the hospital may be necessary in order to save a life) by how badly Telecom (the post office back then) ran things, your simplistic cry for nationalisation holds little merit.

      I’m not defending the current state of Telecom – the XT outage is an absolute shocker. It’s just a good job you’ve got a choice as to who you use for your cell or landline. What’s more it’s cheaper too, and hasn’t become yet another government department turned into a revenue gatherer – just like Telecom/NZ Post used to be.

      • Draco T Bastard 7.1.1

        It’s not a simplistic cry. I was there, I was one of those people hooking up the phones and I was also there a couple of years ago. Want to know what’s changed in the intervening years? NOTHING except that the technology has improved and the culture of service has gone.

        Everything you say was wrong with Telecom prior to privatisation was fixed prior to privatisation by installing new technology. Exchanges that could leave a phone physically connected rather than having to disconnect them improved connection times by the simple fact that people didn’t need to be sent around to the exchange, cabinet and house to wire it up. Cabling became much cheaper as it went from steel and lead wrapped to plastic allowing more lines to be run for each house.

        Basically, what you’re complaining about is a lack of resources that nobody could do anything about until things became cheaper and when it did that lack of resources was taken care of as fast as it could be. Even with close to 20k people working it still takes a long time to wire up an entire country (which puts the lie to JKs $1.5b and 75% of households to have FTTH in 5 years when only ~ 2000 people are employed by telecommunications firms).

        What’s more it’s cheaper too, and hasn’t become yet another government department turned into a revenue gatherer just like Telecom/NZ Post used to be.

        There’s two reasons why it’s cheaper:
        1.) All the needed investment was done prior to the sale and there’s been minimal investment since (Gatung mentioned 15% of income – that included maintenance).
        2.) The price of things have come down. Analogue exchanges were big power hogs that cost a bundle. Digital ones? Use far less power and are much much cheaper. Think about your PC and how much it cost and then think about how much it cost for 1/10th (if you were lucky) the computing power that required an entire building to be housed in.

        The Post Office P&O branch (Telecom), btw, was never a cash cow for the government. All of it’s income went back into what it did – telecommunications. The Post Office and Postbank were losing money. Which just goes to show that you really have NFI what you’re talking about.

        • PaulD 7.1.1.1

          Your analogue v’s digital comparison isn’t valid. New exchanges take up far less space but the idle power requirements are similar to working load. The old analogue exchange doing nothing consumed nothing. Newer generations of digital will be an improvement especially if the users end up responsible for powering their end of the connection.

        • Dean 7.1.1.2

          “It’s not a simplistic cry. I was there, I was one of those people hooking up the phones and I was also there a couple of years ago. Want to know what’s changed in the intervening years? NOTHING except that the technology has improved and the culture of service has gone.”

          Why did it take 3 people to put on a phone line back then? I notice you’re conveniently avoiding that question, but if your memory goes back that far you’ll know that it was a union rule.

          “Everything you say was wrong with Telecom prior to privatisation was fixed prior to privatisation by installing new technology”

          That’ll explain why it wasn’t until they were privatised that costs came down.

          “The Post Office P&O branch (Telecom), btw, was never a cash cow for the government. All of it’s income went back into what it did telecommunications. The Post Office and Postbank were losing money. Which just goes to show that you really have NFI what you’re talking about.”

          This is the best part. You;re actually pretending that there was never ever any money made off the post office, but also that them losing money is somehow indicative of this.

          I’d like to introduce you to a concept – it’s called double entry accounting. You may have heard of it? The way it works is where you put your profits on one side of the ledger, and your losses on the other side. It’s why back in the day the government/post office insisted on charging what they did for toll calls while expecting people would think it was reasonable to wait so long for a phone line to be connected, and why they tried to hide it from everyone who was paying so much.

          “What choice? The service you buy is exactly the same no matter who you get it from and multiple companies with multiple bureaucracies is inherently more expensive. In other words, if we still just had one SOE and one network it would be cheaper still.”

          That’s why vodafone had a nationwide outage!

          Honestly, Draco. Have you actually read back what you typed to yourself?

          You’re honestly comparing Vodafone’s supply to Telecom’s XT and pronouncuing them to be exactly the same? You’re saying that Vodafone – despite the inherent issues theyve had with interconnect issues – who have consistently bettered pricing and availability of new technology – are the same service as Telecom?

          Wow. You really have no idea, do you.

          • Draco T Bastard 7.1.1.2.1

            but if your memory goes back that far you’ll know that it was a union rule.

            Again, more delusion on your part. There was no union rule and that wasn’t a work rule either. You got what was available – if that was a van with one person in (unlikely because most vans carried trainees) then you got one person. If you got three that was because that’s was what was available. A three person van was almost always a cable van so it’s unlikely you’d get that.

            That’ll explain why it wasn’t until they were privatised that costs came down.

            The costs would have come down either way. It’s just that it’s most likely costs would have come down more if it had remained an SOE. We certainly would have had a better network now as the profits would have gone back into the network rather than in profiteers pockets causing a massive dead weight loss.

            I’d like to introduce you to a concept it’s called double entry accounting. You may have heard of it? The way it works is where you put your profits on one side of the ledger, and your losses on the other side. It’s why back in the day the government/post office insisted on charging what they did for toll calls while expecting people would think it was reasonable to wait so long for a phone line to be connected, and why they tried to hide it from everyone who was paying so much.

            I’d like to introduce this thing called logic to you. It goes along the lines of this and this = conclusion. It amazingly enough has absolutely nothing to do with what you wrote here where you quite simply go this… conclusion!!!!. You’re missing all the connecting bits that actually make up an argument. Hell, from what you say I’d have to accuse every single business of deceit because they all use double entry book keeping.

            You’re honestly comparing Vodafone’s supply to Telecom’s XT and pronouncuing them to be exactly the same?

            The service is: mobile telecommunications – and that’s all it is. Both providers provide exactly the same service. Especially now that Telecom have shifted to using the same standards that Vodaphone and the rest of the world use.

            You’re honestly comparing Vodafone’s supply to Telecom’s XT and pronouncuing them to be exactly the same?

            No, I’m not. I’m saying that the service is exactly the same. You’re confusing the service with the delivery of that service which aren’t exactly the same.

      • Draco T Bastard 7.1.2

        It’s just a good job you’ve got a choice as to who you use for your cell or landline.

        What choice? The service you buy is exactly the same no matter who you get it from and multiple companies with multiple bureaucracies is inherently more expensive. In other words, if we still just had one SOE and one network it would be cheaper still.

      • PaulD 7.1.3

        The biggest improvement to Telecom and almost every other organisation since the mid 80’s was the computerisation of customer records. Before then applications for service existed as bits of paper that could and did go missing at every possible chance.

        • Draco T Bastard 7.1.3.1

          Computerisation in general. It added quite a few abilities that analogue couldn’t do and was far cheaper. As I said though, most of that was done before Telecom was sold which proves that the improvement would have come with privatisation or without it. The argument now is how much we would be better off if we hadn’t sold it (and we would be).

  7. Good point… I’m not sure where Telecom is heading… Not going to well at the moment.

  8. Our collection of small, remote, scattered communities far beyond the reach of public sewers and tapwater has had to provide itself with broadband because no-one else was going to – we’ve created a community-owned, non-profit wireless network which taps into dsl in a town 20km away and must be among the cheapest broadband in NZ. I regularly get >5MBps and 4GB/month costs me $20.

    Yet it took a community effort, some risky capital outlay in a system we weren’t sure was even going to work and some luck. We’ve had no public money or help whatsoever.

    We were shortlisted under the last Govt’s Broadband Initiative for a grant to extend our network to some really out of the way corners, but National canned that and are instead spending millions on providing ultra-fast broadband business districts despite research showing that ultra-fast broadband is of no greater value to business than a reliable 10MBps. The only real benefit of Ultra-fast broadband is on-demand TV or films, so National’s funding of it is like putting public money into launching satellites for Sky TV to use.

    What little is being directed into rural areas is now going towards subsiding the commercial operators rather than supporting community efforts like ours, exemplifying National’s favourite trick of using public money to facilitate private profit.

  9. Dean 10

    felix:

    “No idea. No-one sends large files by attachment.”

    Unfortunately for you, you are entirely incorrect.

    • felix 10.1

      Good for you Dean. If I am (and I might be, I’m only speaking from my own limited experience) then that rather undermines your entire argument.

      • Dean 10.1.1

        “No-one competent. Which means tens of thousands (millions!) of people do it every day. And they expect it to work. And in 2010, I reckon it should.”

        and

        “I get asked every week why they can’t send an email over 10mb. Try actually dealing with small businesses felix”

        Your experience is indeed limited, felix.

        Email attachement size shouldn’t be a limitation, but if youre prepared to argue that fast internet isn’t necessary because you know what you’re doing then you need to understand a whole lot more about how the average person uses computers.

        I look forward to you explaining why people who want to send large attachements somehow undermines the idea that they should be able to because they don’t “know what they are doing”, and why this means wanting a larger pipe on the internet a bad thing.

        • felix 10.1.1.1

          No surprises there – as I said my experience is limited and I must be fortunate to work with fairly competent people.

          I can’t for the life of me see why anyone would prefer to move large files by email but I’m not an IT prof so what do I know?

          To be clear: I’ve never stated that a bigger pipe isn’t necessary or that faster speeds aren’t desirable. I just don’t think there are as many people screaming out for it as you do.

          And as I said, I could well be wrong but I suspect you’re talking about fairly specific industries, a tiny minority of the business community.

          • Dean 10.1.1.1.1

            “And as I said, I could well be wrong but I suspect you’re talking about fairly specific industries, a tiny minority of the business community.”

            Panelbeaters, retail stores, accountants, publishers, manufacturers, writers, health professionals.

            I’m going to go with you could very well be wrong. Unless you see how the average person who doesn’t know much about computers determining the easiest way to do things is somehow interested in learning a way to get around the limitations of a crappy internet connection, I don’t think you’ve got a lot more to add here.

            “And as I said, I could well be wrong but I suspect you’re talking about fairly specific industries, a tiny minority of the business community.”

            Clearly you are wrong if you think it’s a tiny monority, who are all 18-35 whose vote got bought because theyre P2Pers.

            • felix 10.1.1.1.1.1

              I appreciate your sentiments but you’re really just stating an opinion as fact in response to my opinion stated as opinion. I don’t see that you’re adding much either but at least I know it.

              And actually I don’t think it’s necessarily correct to design everything to pander to the shortcomings of the stupidest users. We’re talking about real resources here. Why should people be encouraged to waste them rather than be encouraged to learn to use them efficiently?

              • BLiP

                Why should people be encouraged to waste them rather than be encouraged to learn to use them efficiently

                Think Microsoft.

              • Draco T Bastard

                but you’re really just stating an opinion as fact in response to my opinion stated as opinion.

                No, you stated an opinion what he stated was fact. People regularly send multi-megbyte files via email. They haven’t heard of ftp or any other technology that does it better. People write an email, add attachment and press send. They neither need nor want to know about the technology that makes it work or it’s limitations.

                Why should people be encouraged to waste them rather than be encouraged to learn to use them efficiently?

                That’s the society that we’ve grown up in – everything you want, now. It would be nice if we started looking at the waste that we do unthinkingly though.

              • felix

                The “opinion stated as fact” was referring to “Panelbeaters, retail stores, accountants, publishers, manufacturers, writers, health professionals.”

                I don’t think rattling off a list of “people I reckon need bigger pipes nao” constitutes a fact-based argument.

                I maintain that the potential for genuine productivity gains from vastly improved web access are limited to a relatively small and specific group of industries and so far no-one has shown me any evidence to the contrary.

                I remain open to seeing it though. I’d like everything bigger faster better more too.

  10. infused 11

    It’s the same reason most of my customers convert from adsl to citylink, fast, fast, fast, national data is free. Do a backup felix. Most people have anywhere from a few gb to 1tb of data these days. It’s a struggle. Unless you are centre CBD getting these sort of connections is next to impossible – and they are needed.

  11. Clarke 12

    I’ll tell you why this FTTH thing is a waste of time economically – because I’m in Wellington and already connected to CityLink at 25mb/s synchronous, and it has completely failed to transform my business.

    To put the connection in cost me $2.500 from the fibre running past in the street, as this is the price CityLink need to charge to make a dollar – and it’s hard to see how there are huge economies of scale in that number.

    The link has been 100% stable and is seriously fast, but the only positive impact on me financially has been the saving of $100/month in hosting fees as I’m now running a mail and web server in-house … although it’s not necessarily a smart decision, given I also lack the UPS and monitoring infrastructure of a proper data centre.

    The reason I put the fibre in was because I’m a geek, and CityLink had a fibre running past our office. But if I was a non-geek running (say) a panel beating business, it wouldn’t make a blind bit of difference to my profitability. Watching gratuitous YouTube clips at lunchtime would definitely be faster, but since when is that a transformative economic strategy for the country?

    Conclusion: Key doesn’t have a clue what he’s up to with this FTTH nonsense.

  12. infused 13

    Must be a pretty piss poor mail server then lprent. Try using something like Brightmail Gateway.

    • lprent 13.1

      I’m using MDaemon on an old box from about 2003-4. But I was actually referring to various mail systems I’ve seen over the years. Exchange being about the worst.

      • infused 13.1.1

        Nothing wrong with Exchange. I look after around 20-30 exchange servers. Good hardware, configured properly, what’s the problem?

        Just like any other software.

        anti spam word: servers

        nice

  13. Dean 14

    “I appreciate your sentiments but you’re really just stating an opinion as fact in response to my opinion stated as opinion. I don’t see that you’re adding much either but at least I know it.”

    I’m sorry that I have real world examples of people who want to send files by email because they can’t be bothered to do it a more complicated way, and I’m sorry that you see it as an opinion rather than the way people actually do things.

    Mind you, you did assert that the only reason National campaigned on faster internet connections was to placate the P2P crowd, so I suppose you really don’t have an awful lot more to add rather than they should probably vote Labour?

    • felix 14.1

      Mind you, you did assert that the only reason National campaigned on faster internet connections was to placate the P2P crowd, so I suppose you really don’t have an awful lot more to add rather than they should probably vote Labour?

      You have me confused with someone else. I never said that and I don’t vote Labour.

      Sorry I missed your real world examples. I don’t really care if people don’t know how to use the net. The only point I’ve been trying to make (and you’ve been studiously avoiding) is that there is no apparent advantage in terms of productivity and profit for anyone but a very small minority of very specific companies. Nothing you’ve said has made any case to dispute this. If you think a panelbeater and an accountant are losing ground in the marketplace because they can’t figure out how to send 20MB files to each other then I don’t really know why I’m bothering discussing it with you.

      I’m not denying the convenience factor but I haven’t heard anything from you about actual productive gains.

      • spot 14.1.1

        “Productive gains” angle is a hard one, and I think you’re bang on, not every business will benefit, cos clearly not every business has a model that’s improved by it. But some will, and I guess the argument is that there’ll be some that don’t exist now but could.

        I think they’ll look at (or have done) a whole range of socio-economic metrics for this sort of stuff.

        You could probably construct and craft some numbers to fit any business case you want but it’d be good to see stuff like e-learning, home business/office, health and other public service delivery, ‘quality of life’, improved comms, and obviously all sorts of lifestyle type services.

        Personally I’m very interested in anything that can really support ‘regionalisation’ (if that makes sense) in NZ, and in doing so having a positive impact on local economies etc etc.

  14. tc 15

    Gosh aside from all the tech talk about attachments etc the fundamental point is if our infrastructure wasn’t third world you’d get away with much of the above as the network would have capacity to handle bad user behaviour….for which they’d pay.

    More to the point is we have a gov’t that thinks big bus can do no wrong, a big bus (telecom) who can do no right and in fact rewards it’s shareholders by not investing in infrastructure.

    Then a broadband plan hammered by all and sundry as unworkable being handled by JK’s head bully Joyce……billions being spent to improve what telecom shareholders should be funding, not you and me.

    This gov’t lack the brains and principles to solve our telco landscape….helen put the right minister (Cunliffe) onto it after the wrong one (Swain) but contrast that with NACT who have one plan B when ministers fail…..B is for Bully…come on down Joyce.

  15. tc 16

    maybe this thread should be renamed……..Standard IT advice, there’s some great stuff here from people who know their stuff answering people who need to know their stuff……..meanwhile the Grumpy Scot collects his bonus….Kaching !

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    Is the terrorist Organisation Greenpeace and the loony Green parties around the World hiring professional internet trolls? I have noticed a trend lately where if you post research, news articles or even comments that show the manmade climate change scam to be just that, you are immediately attacked, often within ...
    An average kiwiBy admin@averagekiwi.com
    24 hours ago
  • Climate Change: Strike!
    Today is the first day of the global climate strike. Led by schoolkids, people all around the world are going to protest to demand action on climate change. New Zealand isn't doing it till next Friday (join us!), but if you want to get active early, there's plenty to do ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 day ago
  • Climate Change: Squandering our opportunity?
    The Herald has a story today about the 400 MW of wind power currently under construction. Good news, right? Except that none of it is being driven by policy (instead, its about replacing Contact Energy's Taranaki Combined Cycle gas-fired power plant, due to shut down in 2022), and most of ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 day ago
  • Protect The King!
    To Protect and Serve: When the Prime Minister finds herself enmeshed in the coils of a full-blown political scandal, her colleagues and party comrades have only one priority: to release her as swiftly – and with as little lasting injury – as possible. Is this what Jacinda Ardern’s colleagues and ...
    1 day ago
  • The rot at the top.
    When military leaders cover up and lie to elected civilian authorities, the foundation of democratic civil-military relations is undermined because it is those authorities who are entrusted to hold the military accountable to the public that they mutually serve. But this is only true if civilian political authorities take their ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 day ago
  • Challenging the voting age in court
    The Make It 16 campaign to lower the voting age is launching this afternoon, and they have already announced plans to challenge the law in court:The campaign, named "Make it 16" will launch at Parliament on Friday, with plans to take their case to the High Court, testing the rights ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 day ago
  • Israel’s elections herald a long siesta
    by Daphna Whitmore The long years of Netanyahu’s reign are drawing to an end. For years he has epitomized reactionary zionism as he oversaw hundreds of thousands of Jewish settlers seize land in the West Bank. There are now 700,000 settlers, putting an end to the myth that Israel was ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 day ago
  • Petrol companies promise prices will come back down once peace is restored to the Middle East
    BP, Z and Mobil all insist that petrol price hikes are temporary, “in a very literal sense.” The nation’s major petrol providers are trying to allay customer fears over prices, promising that they’ll move to lower them again “immediately” when the Middle East is returned to its formerly peaceful state. ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 days ago
  • All Blacks unveil boat for Rugby World Cup 2019
    South African coach Rassie Erasmus says he has no idea what they’re going to do about the boat. In a highly anticipated press conference this afternoon, All Blacks coach Steve Hansen has finally unveiled the team’s boat for its Rugby World Cup 2019 campaign. In a press conference that went ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 days ago
  • An increasingly shoddy coverup
    The Operation Burnham inquiry continued to question senior NZDF staff today, and their shoddy coverup over their knowledge of civilian casualties continue to fall apart. If you recall, first, we were asked to believe that it was all a series of "mistakes and errors": a senior officer with multiple degrees ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • If we are to avoid making the earth uninhabitable, we need to rapidly decarbonise our civilisation, and cut emissions to zero as quickly as possible. This seems like an impossible task, but its not. Pushing hard on a few technologies and trends will let us halve emissions in a decade:Greenhouse ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • A further attack on transparency
    The Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill (No 2) had part of its committee stage yesterday. its a generally tedious bill about the nitty-gritty of local government reorganisation. But it includes a clause making the Local Government Commission subject to the Ombudsmen Act, and hence the OIA. Great! Except of ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Ihumātao and Treaty settlements
    Yesterday Ihumātao's mana whenua reached a consensus that they would like their land back, and asked the government to negotiate with Fletcher's for its return. The government's response? Try and undermine that consensus, while talking about how doing anything would undermine existing Treaty settlements. The first is just more bad ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Protecting our history
    Its Suffrage Day, the 126th anniversary of women winning the right to vote (but not stand in elections) in New Zealand. And to celebrate, the government has bought Kate Sheppard's house in Christchurch:The government has bought Kate Sheppard's former home in Christchurch for more than $4 million. The Ilam villa ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Climate Change: Ostracising the coal-burners
    The UN climate summit is happening in new York next week, and unlike previous years, coal-burners and denier-states are not being invited to speak:Leading economies such as Japan and Australia will not be invited to speak at next week’s crunch UN climate change summit, as their continued support for coal ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Jojo Tamihere Salutes Herr Goff.
    Get Back Jojo! The elation in Mayor Phil Goff’s camp may be easily imagined as they watched social media light up in indignation at challenger John Tamihere’s "Sieg Heil to that" quip. Just when JT’s notoriously right-wing, sexist and homophobic stains were beginning to fade back into his ‘colourful’ past, ...
    3 days ago
  • Hard News: A fun but flawed weed documentary
    Patrick Gower is good value when he's high. Not that I've ever, you know, got stoned with him. But in the second part of his documentary Patrick Gower on Weed, he does what you'd expect in a modern weed documentary and immerses himself – first with a doctor, then a ...
    3 days ago
  • Candidate Survey: Western Bay of Plenty – Local Body Elections 2019
    We surveyed candidates on their attitudes to issues facing the Western Bay Region, find out what they think: “Closing the Gap” Tauranga, one of the area groups of Income Equality Aotearoa NZ Inc., has surveyed all candidates in the three local body elections to discover attitudes to some basic issues ...
    Closing the GapBy Tracey Sharp
    3 days ago
  • Project Nettie calls on scientists to defend biology
    Please spread widely, and sign, to support science and rationalism over the new irrationalism sweeping universities and institutions.  PROJECT NETTIE Sexual reproduction, the generation of offspring by fusion of genetic material from two different individuals, evolved over 1 billion years ago. It is the reproductive strategy of all higher animals ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    3 days ago
  • I’m glad I don’t live in Auckland
    Just when I was thinking that Palmerston North's mayoral race (which includes a convicted child molester / public wanker and a convicted child beater) was the worst in the country, Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere opened his mouth:Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere is being slammed for using the words "sieg ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Index of Power Update, 2018-19: China #2
    We reprint below an article from the excellent website the Economics of Imperialism by Tony Norfield This is an update of the statistics for my Index of Power, using data for 2018-19 and discussing what a country’s ranking reflects. The major change is that China’s rank has shifted up and ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    3 days ago
  • Climate Change: A history lesson
    Why is New Zealand climate change policy so crap? The Herald this morning has a long article on the twists and turns of climate change policy in New Zealand [paywalled / depaywall script], which shows where we've been. The short version is that the government first began worrying about this ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • What the All Blacks Mean to Us
    The All Blacks have been, for more than a century, arguably the most successful International sports team in the world. But they are more than that; even for those Kiwis who are immune to the charms of rugby (and there are more than a few), the All Blacks are ambassadors ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    4 days ago
  • No one is born into the wrong body
    A short and incredibly powerful speech from a young lesbian woman. No one is born in the wrong body. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    4 days ago
  • Contempt
    Back in June, the UK Court of Appeal ruled that that country's continued arms sales to Saudi Arabia were unlawful. So you'd expect that the UK government stopped approving them, right?Of course not:The government has apologised for breaching a court ruling against the sale of weapons to Saudi Arabia that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Covering up the cover-up
    Yesterday NZDF officials were put on the stand about the lies they had told over Operation Burnham, making implausible claims that it was all a big mistake. But along the way, we learned they had already been put on the spot about it by a previous Defence Minister, who had ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Not as important as they think they are
    Farmers have been whining a lot lately, about the methane targets in the Zero Carbon Bill, about Canterbury's proposed nitrogen limits, and about the government's new proposals to stop them from shitting in our lakes and rivers. These policies are "throwing farmers under the tractor", they will force farmers off ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Behind Every Good Woman Should Stand – Another Good Woman.
    Alone, Alone, All, All, Alone: To argue that the Prime Minister is the victim of her advisers’ failure to keep her informed may offer Jacinda some measure of exoneration – but only at the cost of casting her as a hopeless political ingénue. A star-dusted muppet, whose only purpose is to ...
    5 days ago
  • Poor quality, poorly educated kiddie ‘Journalists’ spreading fake news
    In times of hysteria about the “World coming to an end” and “rising sea levels” so-called ‘Journalists’ who can barely spell words longer than four letters are having a ball! Though the majority of the Public have worked out that manmade climate change is nothing short of pseudo-science, and the ...
    An average kiwiBy admin@averagekiwi.com
    5 days ago
  • Chris Trotter on the BFD
    I don't want to give pblicity to certain parts of the internet that are better left to fester in their own irrelevance (I know, a bit like this place) but the listing of Chris Trotter as a 'author' on Cameron Slater's spinoff website, the BFD requires some explanation.Now, I don't ...
    5 days ago
  • Sex is not a spectrum
    The text below is a Twitter thread by Heather Heying that explains the essence of sexual reproduction and it long evolutionary history. She is an evolutionary biologist and a “professor-in-exile” after she and her husband, Bret Weinstein, stood up to supporters of an enforced “Day of Absence” for white staff and teachers ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    5 days ago
  • Climate Change: Trees, aviation, and offsets
    With crunch time for new Zealand climate policy approaching, most of the New Zealand media have got on board with a global reporting effort to cover the issue. There's one strand of stories today about polling and what it shows about changing public attitudes to the crisis, but the strand ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Pissing-Off The Israelis Is A High-Risk Strategy.
    Dangerous Foes: For those readers of Bowalley Road who feel disposed to dismiss any prospect of an Israeli destabilisation of New Zealand politics, the example of the United Kingdom repays close attention. Ever since the election of Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the British Labour Party, the Israelis have sanctioned, funded and ...
    5 days ago
  • Something to go to in Wellington
    Make It 16, the youth-led campaign to lower New Zealand's voting age, is holding an official campaign launch at Parliament this Friday from 16:30. If you'd like to attend, you can register using EventBrite here. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • A founding member responds to Peace Action Wellington
    by Don Franks It was a lovely sunny Wellington afternoon with blue skies above  the beaches.  In Courtenay Place, political activists packed out a stuffy upstairs room for an important meeting. The assembled pacifists, anarchists, communists and independent young radicals of Peace Action Wellington felt the need for a mission ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    5 days ago
  • “Mistakes and errors”
    Current and former NZDF top brass are being publicly grilled this week by the hit and run inquiry over their public responses to allegations of civilian casualties. Previously, they've claimed there were no casualties, a position which led them to lie to Ministers and to the public. Now, they're saying ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • “Homosexuality is same-sex attraction and relationships, not heterosexuals with delusions of gende...
    by Rafael D. Quiles (gender-critical gay man from Puerto Rico) The writing on the wall is right in people’s faces and people just don’t see it or don’t want to. What could actually possess a heterosexual male to want to feminize himself and claim that he is a lesbian? Because ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    6 days ago
  • Trump: “Where’s my favourite dictator?”
    From the Wall Street Journal:Inside a room of the ornately decorated Hotel du Palais during last month’s Group of Seven summit in Biarritz, France, President Trump awaited a meeting with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi. Mr. Trump looked over a gathering of American and Egyptian officials and called out in ...
    6 days ago
  • Magdalen Burns, 1983-2019, fighter for women’s liberation
    by the Redline blog collective At Redline we are very saddened to hear of the death of Magdalen Burns who passed away on the morning of Friday, September 13 (British time). Magdalen was a great fighter for the rights of women in general and lesbian women in particular, a defender ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Parliament and the Executive
    The Brexit issue has certainly brought with it a series of apparently difficult constitutional issues, many of them concerning the respective roles of the executive and parliament. Most of them arise because of the unwillingness of MPs, despite their professions to the contrary, to be bound by a constitutional rarity ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • The Abigail Article; Martyn Bradbury’s Article, and My Response
    . . This blogpost is different to my usual format of reporting on issues… Since July 1011, I have blogged on a variety of political issues; near always political and/or environmental; mostly highly critical of the previous National Government. Other issues included Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and repression of ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    1 week ago
  • Police will have to wear silly Buckingham Palace hats from now on, says Police Minister
    Those close to the Police Minister believe the initiative may be the result of Nash “seeing a great deal” on AliExpress. In a move that comes seemingly out of nowhere, Police Minister Stuart Nash announced this afternoon that he expects all frontline staff to don bearskin hats, famously worn by ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • A sensible crackdown
    The government has released its Arms Legislation Bill, containing the second tranche of changes to gun laws following the March 15 massacre. And it all looks quite sensible: a national gun register, higher penalties for illegal possession and dealing, tighter restrictions on arms dealers and shooting clubs, and a shorter ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • California bans private prisons
    Private prisons are a stain on humanity. Prison operators explicitly profit from human misery, then lobby for longer prisons terms so they can keep on profiting. And in the US, prison companies run not only local and state prisons, but also Donald Trump's immigration concentration camps. Faced with this moral ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Why PPPs are a bad idea
    When National was in power, they were very keen on Public-Private Partnerships (PPPs) - basicly, using private companies to finance public infrastructure as a way of hiding debt from the public. They were keen on using them for everything - roads, schools, hospitals. But as the UK shows, that "service" ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • A Movement That No Longer Moves.
    Moving And Shaking: There was a time when people spoke matter-of-factly about the “labour movement” – a political phenomenon understood to embrace much more than the Labour Party. Included within the term’s definition was the whole trade union movement – many of whose members looked upon the Labour Party as ...
    1 week ago
  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
    by Philip Ferguson Much of the left, even people who formally identify as marxists, have collapsed politically in the face of postmodern gender theory of the sort pioneered by American philosopher Judith Butler. For Butler even biological sex is socially constructed. “If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • The obvious question
    The media is reporting that the (alleged) Labour party sexual assaulter has resigned from their job at Parliament, which means hopefully he won't be turning up there making people feel unsafe in future. Good. But as with everything about this scandal, it just raises other questions. Most significantly: why the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
    By Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern I am every bit as angry as you are. I am every bit as disappointed as you must be. The people with power, oversight and the ability to do something about these processes within the Labour Party should be ashamed. Whoever those people are, I ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
    Property developers think there is an "oversupply" of houses in Auckland:High turnover rates and falling prices may be a sign that there are too many new houses going in to some parts of Auckland, commentators say. [...] Property developer David Whitburn said there was a "bit of an oversupply" in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    1 week ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    1 week ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    1 week ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    2 weeks ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 weeks ago
  • Māori Language Week with The Civilian
    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Will Horizons act on climate change?
    Local body elections are coming up next month. And it looks like all Palmerston North candidates for Horizons (the Manawatu-Whanganui Regional Council) want to take action on climate change:Climate change is set to be a key issue in Palmerston North for the next three years if those wanting to get ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • BORA reform is stalled
    Eighteen months ago, the government promised to strengthen the Bill of Rights Act, by explicitly affirming the power of the courts to issue declarations of inconsistency and requiring Parliament to formally respond to them. So how's that going? I was curious, so I asked for all advice about the proposal. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago
  • A ditch for him to die in
    Last week, English Prime Minister Boris Johnson boldly declared that he would rather die be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit. Unfortunately for him, the UK parliament accepted the challenge, and promptly dug one for him. The "rebellion bill" requires him to ask for and secure yet another temporary ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Warning! Warning! Danger Jacinda Ardern! Danger Marama Davidson! Warning!
    Lost In Political Space: The most important takeaway from this latest Labour sexual assault scandal, which (if I may paraphrase Nixon’s White House counsel’s, John Dean’s, infamous description of Watergate) is “growing like a cancer” on the premiership, is the Labour Party organisation’s extraordinary professional paralysis in the face of ...
    2 weeks ago

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