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Daily Review 07/03/2017

Written By: - Date published: 5:30 pm, March 7th, 2017 - 50 comments
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This provides Standardistas the opportunity to review events of the day.

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50 comments on “Daily Review 07/03/2017 ”

  1. Anne 1

    I liked this from Jacinda Ardern. The new no nonsense Jacinda who challenges the media:


    As for the terminology used to head the item… garbage in… garbage out. Little and Ardern called the smart-arse reporter out and they didn’t like it?

    Did any smart arsed reporter ask English what he would do if Bennett out-polled him for the PM stakes? NO.

    • Carolyn_nth 1.1

      Isn’t that the Gower boy, being the smart arse reporter continually asking the same question? He certainly does get the knives out for some Labour MPs!

      • ScottGN 1.1.1

        I don’t think it’s Gower, he’s a bit dazzled by Jacinda. That was good work though from her.

        • Carolyn_nth

          Must have been Corin Dann, then. TV1 news does seem to be cheerleading for Bling this week.

          • Sacha

            Not his voice. Possibly Lloyd Burr from mediaworks?

            • Carolyn_nth

              Well Lloyd Burr’s interviews with Ardern today, as on the Newshub site, are very positive about/with Ardern. So, don’t see him as a smart arse trying to pressure her.

              • Anne

                It was a post caucus press stand-up so could have been a reporter from one of the newspapers or radio stations. It wasn’t Corin Dann or Paddy Gower. Their voices are well known and recognisable.

              • Sacha

                Ta. So that’s both Lloyd and Paddy in the positive column so far.

    • Love her to bits. Easily shut that smart arse down.

    • Jenny Kirk 1.3

      Yep – the silly journos will start getting used to that answer, and it will become a non-question after a while – it’ll get boring.

    • michelle 1.4

      media bias agree Anne in the last 2 elections the tories have had an unfair advantage the media did there lobbying and were an important part of there election team and this needs to stop

    • Red 1.5

      Bill English is not on 7 pc that’s the big difference

    • Red 1.6

      Bill English is not on 7 pc that’s the big difference Also simply denying what is quite probable ( the ostrich strategy) will not happen is not really and answer

  2. “Labour supports a call from the Māori Party to have the superannuation age lowered for Māori because their live expectancy is lower the non-Māori.”


    Good call and lots of evidence to back this up.

    Working together??? Start off with some shared values and see how we go eh…

    • mickysavage 2.1


      Personally I believe Labour has a lot more in common with MP than NZF …

    • Andre 2.2

      I worry that presenting it this way will be vulnerable to “one law for all” style attacks. I think Henare’s comment about investing in Maori health to lift Maori life expectancy is on target, and couple that with early superannuation for those unable to continue in their occupation through disability. Which would hopefully provide the same outcome for Maori that have spent their lives in demanding manual occupations, as well as including non-Maori in the same situation.

      • Sacha 2.2.1

        Despite Ministers laying red herrings before journos this week, research shows that Maori have shorter life expectancy even after accounting for factors like their health and the type of work they undertake. Rangi the factory worker is a figment of Joyce’s overactive imagination.

      • marty mars 2.2.2

        Those attacks come what may – cannot and must not adjust for those racists.

        The facts are well known.

        And why those facts exist are also well known – just one of the unhappy coincidences for most indigenous peoples colonised – lower life expectancy, higher mental health issues including suicide and self harming, higher prison population, lower incomes throughout their working life, less home ownership, over populated on all deprivation statistics and so on and on and on…

        That won’t get addressed by this but it is worthwhile pointing it all out imo.

        anyway I wrote this a few years ago


        • michelle

          also Marty mars bad and unfair treatment from the state a sector that is suppose to help. For example we were more likely to be offered state flats in the bronxs the same areas the gnats have knocked down and built 500k houses for who not our people racist pigs

    • Gabby 2.3

      Women can look forward to longer careers due to their higher life expectancy. Will smokers and drinkers get to retire early as well?

      • marty mars 2.3.1

        Pity you are so scornful gabby – you could have made a contribution to the discussion instead of your usual sour comment.

        • Gabby

          Pity you’re so grumpy, marty. You could have thought the thing through a bit less narrowmindedly couldn’t you.

      • Sacha 2.3.2

        Smokers and drinkers get to die early. Think of all those savings ..

    • Antoine 2.4

      Race-based super is an absolutely terrible idea

      I suspect however, that wiser heads within Labour will prevail and this idea will be quickly shut down…


  3. dv 3

    With all the big data stuff, surely we can fit retirement age to the background of the retiree?

    • Anne 3.1

      I think that is exactly what is eventually going to happen dv. After the age of 60 when a person wishes to retire from full time work, they will have to apply to a special agency set up for the task of investigating applicants’ circumstances. If they qualify under a set of reasonable criteria – such as in injuries caused by years of heavy manual labour – then they will be able to begin receiving super at an earlier age.

      When (and its only a matter of time before it happens) they reach the age of 67 they will automatically receive the super. That does not mean others cannot start receiving it at 65 but they will have to fulfill the criteria laid down by legislation which could include anything from physical or mental impairment making it impossible for them to be able to continue earning a living.

      • Carolyn_nth 3.1.1

        No one automatically gets super now. Everyone applies for it if they think they are eligible.

        The great thing about NZ’s system is that it’s universal. You just need to prove age, ID and years lived in NZ.

        There is no need to include some means test. Actually, 60 years for all to apply would be better. Then properly pre-fund the super fund, and use the tax system to take back a high tax from those 60yrs + on a high income.

        Means testing involves too much surveillance of individuals, and always results in some people trying to cheat the system, by using false info.

        Or better still. Basic income for everyone, cradle to grave.

        • Sacha

          “use the tax system to take back a high tax from those 60yrs + on a high income.”

          High wealth would be better – many of our richest manage their affairs to show hardly any income. Tax their capital and transactions.

          • Carolyn_nth

            wealth tax? Capital gains tax?

            • Sacha

              Seen several proposals discussed but not really my area. Financial transaction taxes seem hard to avoid. Taxing capital accumulation seems more useful than income to achieve distributional equity.

              • Carolyn_nth

                My accumulated capital already gets taxed: that’s my savings’ interest. But I do not own property, and property owners do not get taxed on their gains from rising house prices.

                But I would think you are talking about capital accumulation in all kinds of investments, not just my little savings accounts.

  4. the pigman 4

    Nothing to do with today, but Danyl MacLauchlan’s dimpost seems to have basically shut up shop. Does everyone else have trouble accessing: https://dimpost.wordpress.com/

    Or did my IP/wordpress account just get banned? T^T

    Would make sense if he was planning on publishing some of his posts in book format and wanted to pull it from online, but sad all the same if it’s gone.

    • Anne 4.1

      I think he is “taking a break” from blogging. He intimated it was temporary due to other commitments – or whatever.

    • mickysavage 4.2

      Interesting phenomenon. Blogging is a marathon. Danyl was really good at it. But it is not easy to keep it up for ever …

      • Sacha 4.2.1

        Isn’t he involved somehow with official Green party policy work now? Missed the announcement, just noticed missing site.

    • timeforacupoftea 4.3

      “If they qualify under a set of reasonable criteria – such as in injuries caused by years of heavy manual labour – then they will be able to begin receiving super at an earlier age.”

      But surely Anne, these injured workers will be on ACC 80% of there present earnings till they are 65 which will be far better than the miserable amount National Supper will pay. What ever the age of retirement ACC will turn off the insurance payments then anyway.
      I know this to be true, as I went through this recently with a friend.

      • KJT 4.3.1

        No. Those are called “gradual process injuries”, or “age related degeneration” and you are put on the laughably called, “job seekers benefit.
        I have several acquaintances who have obvious long term impairment related to jobs such as fishing, machine shop, or building, who are incapable of sustained work.
        They all have to go with the WINZ torture monthly, for, what was, the “sickness benefit”, Including applications for jobs they will never get, due to their physical condition and age.

        Which is why I am implacably opposed to raising the retirement age, means testing and any form of trying to adjust for individual disability or condition.
        It doesn’t work. Universal is effective, fair and well understood.
        It also stops the wealthy from getting rid of it. As they get it to.

        We already have ample proof that “Austerity” and “tax cuts” are a failure.

        The fact is, super, and other forms of welfare are becoming unaffordable because successive Governments have cut tax levels below that required for a functioning country.

        US states are instructive, because you can see the effect of less or more socialist policies side by side with similar populations. The recent success of Minnesota where a State Government has raised minimum wages and business and State taxes has resulted in the opposite to the predicted decline. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/31/opinion/campaign-stops/the-path-to-prosperity-is-blue.html?_r=0 Note, Blue States in the USA are Democrat.

        • Muttonbird

          +1. Timeforacuppa has no idea at all about the outcomes of the ACC claims processor manual workers. Needs to be outed as a right wing troll.

  5. joe90 5

    The year zero reference has me WTF….

    ENCRYPTED RELEASEUse a 'torrent' downloader on: https://t.co/gpBxJAoYD5And '7z' to decrypt.Passphrase will be made public at Tue 9am ET. pic.twitter.com/MxZQtoaCMK— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) March 7, 2017




  6. Rightly or Wrongly 6

    Lesson number 1 for Bill English.

    When contemplating significant changes to Government Policy in relation to superannuation (which affects everyone) best not to come out the blue with a prescriptive change to be set in concrete.

    Guaranteed to get everyone’s backs up, highlight previous little known social divisions, and likely to give easy fodder to your political opponents.

    What he should have done:

    1 Acknowledged that he wasn’t bound by the same pledge as Key.

    2 Make a new pledge that he would not make any wholesale changes to the NZ Super scheme without cross party support.

    3 State that he supports setting up a cross party inquiry (after the election) into the future of NZ super in which input from all parties and the public would be taken into account.

    4 State that any final outcome would not be proposed in Parliament without at least 66% support. This would allow Nat/Labour to figure out a reasonable plan for the future without giving Peters too much power.

    Outcome: Frees English from Key’s foolish pledge AND removes it from being a lightening rod for discontent at the 2017 election.

    Think before you stink is a wonderful saying.

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