Went in for our ‘flu jabs today. A lady going to the Phillippines was having a measles jab as there have been 300 people* aprox die of it over there, and millions more are at risk.
But, but, patricia bremner freedom of speech in all its forms is far more important. People are entitled to surf the internet and read all manner of crackpot assertions like measle vaccine causes autism and any number of other conspiratorial pseudo scientific claptrap because that is their right. If children/people die because of their claims then well… that’s just unfortunate. (sarc)
In all seriousness, I’ve had it up to my eyeballs with these dumb bunnies of both sexes who have wielded so much power and caused such irreparable harm. I refer as well to the anti-fluoride gang and the CC deniers.
I take it then that you are one of those who have fallen for the conspiratorial pseudo science so beloved of anti vaxxers and CC deniers etc? Perhaps you also don’t comprehend a little bit of tongue in cheek language.
Whatever… I was replying to patricia bremner and fully agreeing with her inferred premise.
Time you made an effort to curb your catty remarks Rosemary McDonald.
No, I’m not an avid anti -vaxxer, although I do very much understand where concern about MMR comes from after the the Urabe scandal/cover up of the late eighties/early nineties. You will of course remember that..there was scientific parers written about it and everything…much of the story was revealed only after OIA type requests.
And you see that’s just it…the government deliberately ignored warnings from overseas jurisdictions about the Urabe strain of mumps virus and put children’s lives at risk. Complete honesty and transparency from Our Leaders would go a long way towards inspiring trust.
“Unfortunately, the crisis that we are dealing with now is based on results from clinical trials backed up by autopsies linking some deaths to Dengvaxia [6]. These findings may serve as proof against vaccine safety and might have a negative impact on other vaccination programs. With the news being widely circulated through media, this would not just affect Philippines but also other parts of the world.”
Some of us Anne choose to do our own research rather than blindly accept establishment approved ‘Science’. Keeping one’s mind open just a crack…let the light in?
“In all seriousness, I’ve had it up to my eyeballs with these dumb bunnies of both sexes who have wielded so much power and caused such irreparable harm. I refer as well to the anti-fluoride gang and the CC deniers.”
I’ve had it up to my eyeballs with these dumb bunnies of both sexes who have wielded so much power and caused such irreparable harm.
And you respond with a Meow? Strange bit of cognition there.
And btw, I will always support the officially recognised scientific experts over any pseudo scientists who roam the internet spreading misinformation. Not surprising given my former career was in one of the sciences.
“…any pseudo scientists who roam the internet spreading misinformation.”
So, the problem with Dengvaxia is pseudo science?
So the wording of the article describing the effect the deaths from Dengvaxia have had on vaccine uptake does not concern you?
““Unfortunately, the crisis that we are dealing with now is based on results from clinical trials backed up by autopsies linking some deaths to Dengvaxia [6]. These findings may serve as proof against vaccine safety and might have a negative impact on other vaccination programs. With the news being widely circulated through media, this would not just affect Philippines but also other parts of the world.””
Seems to be implying that the greatest misfortune is not the proven deaths from Dengvaxia, but the fact that they were widely publicised.
And it is just that attitude that increases mistrust.
So, the ‘dumb bunnies’ in the Dengvaxia fiasco are? The media for reporting the deaths caused by the vaccine? The scientists for linking the deaths with the vaccine? The media accurately reporting that the scientists had found a link between the deaths and the vaccine? Members of the public who become less trusting of the drug company products because the media accurately reported that the drug company’s product caused people harm?
See, it’s a little more complicated than just ‘pro’ or ‘anti’. It is highly disrespectful to condemn people as being ‘dumb’ because they don’t happen to agree with one’s own views.
Bear in mind that despite what you perceive as an anti-vax propaganda epidemic on the internet….the vast majority of people are following state proscribed vaccination programmes….in most case more than enough folk are vaccinating to achieve the desired herd immunity.
There are small pockets of those who refuse vaccines…these will be your anti-vaxxers…. but they are not the major cause of low uptake in in particular communities, according to someone who should know…
“Auckland University Immunisation Advisory Centre head Nikki Turner said said there was no need for a separate public health campaign against anti-vaxxers.
“I don’t think we should ignore the anti-vaccination lobby but I think we should put it into context.
“It is a very small percentage of the New Zealand population.
“We need to understand it and respond to it, and definitely put more resources and thinking into it, but it is a very small part of why we are not getting high immunisation coverage rates.”
Dr Turner said there were other problems with delivering immunisations, beyond what she called vaccine hesitancy, and New Zealand would be better off dealing with those.
“We need to systematically know which children are missing out and offer them services.
“And then respond appropriately in those localised communities that have got myth and rumour and social media stories rife within them.
“That’s where we need extra support.”
The Health Ministry said immunisation rates, which had been rising, reached a plateau and then began to fall in early 2017.
It meant immunisation coverage went from 93 percent on average at eight months, and 91 percent for Māori children, to 91 percent and 86 percent respectively.”
It is far too easy to blame a slight fall in immunisation coverage on those you refer to as ‘dumb bunny anti vaxxers’ Anne. As always, as a scientist should know, there are often multiple factors.
And btw, I will always support the officially recognised scientific experts over any pseudo scientists who roam the internet spreading misinformation
Anne, as I have previously stated…you are woefully underinformed and misinformed on this subject, that you are incapable of developing a rational opinion…it is not possible to achieve with such an inadequate data set…
There is a plethora of reports, studies and other ‘evidence’, including from the very same ‘officially recognized experts/establishments’ which illustrate the severe problems with the ‘industry/reglators’…that you’re obviously not aware of…
That only severe congnitive dissonance coud lead you to making such logically flawed statements…
Not a single one in the current CDC schedule of FDA licensed vaccines was tested against an inert placebo control group in pre-licensure testing…
Once a licence is approved it becomes legally unethical for a control group to ever be used…
Can you understand the gravitas of what that means…
Those who post comments and dissmissive insults, such as you have repeatedly done…from a position of total ignorance…
…Are discriminating against every biological being that has been injured, damaged and killed by the ‘one size fits all’ industry which you explicitly and repeatedly endorse…
When confronted with counter information and commentary…you continue the same insulting, dismissive and discriminatory tactics…
Your comments are extremely discriminatory, they are deeply mysogenistic, they are flawed and without factual basis…
MMR vaccine is a measles + mumps vaccine + rubella vaccine it contains live attenuated virus which while providing an immune response does not cause the disease in healthy individuals.
Severely immunocompromised persons (undergoing treatment for cancer for example or with immune disorders) are at small risk of catching the attenuated virus from people immunised for a few days until the attenuated virus is cleared from the person immunised. This risk and severity of illness is far lower than if the immunocompromised individual was to come into contact with a person suffering from measles, mumps, chickenpox etc.
The flu vaccine is very effective against those strains which it is manufactured from – you can’t catch the flu from from the flu vaccine.
You either have not read…or failed to understand the issues around vaccine actual shedding and vaccine failure…including in highly vaccinated populations…proven to be responsible for communicating the disease…
The flu vaccine comment is equally uninformed…
10% ‘effective’…is highly innefective…useless…untested…year in year out…
At first I was all “zouch that’s a zinger!”, but now I am genuinely curious as to whether vegans spit or swallow after fellating someone to completion.
Well I went to your first link and read it and then went to the source of that doc – “Source:Weston A. Price Foundation” crew – read a wee bit on them and then found the counter position on them and this is what it said,
“Since I started writing for Science-Based Medicine almost 8 years ago, I have visited many, many websites offering questionable information about health. In my opinion, the Weston A. Price Foundation is one of the worst. It is full of misinformation and dangerous advice. It might be useful in reverse: if you read it on WAPF, it is probably wrong.”
What did I get wrong…again…according to you marty?
Go ahead…ignore my comments…again…twist them…again…
But at least explain with some details about why I’m wrong IYO…and why you’ve failed to say why you posted to Gorski…it was the first returned search eh…closely followed by the Offit site..
No surprise marty…I’ve got your number every time…you’re so full of it…
Are you going to abuse me…and then apologise again…?
What I wrote was in response to your comment which essentially said you had previously not vaccinated your kids…but because of comments I had posted…you’d changed your mind and stated getting the shots the following week…this exchange was approx 3 weeks ago no more than 4wks…easily searchable…
What I then wrote was you were attemping to outsource your parental decision making onto my comments and that it was nothing to do with me…completely your choice to make…
I did ask you to post the certs as evidence you are true to your words…given you had made it my business … you did that…
You’ve failed to post the certs or admit you were and are utterly full of hot air…
Additionally since that time you’ve been abusive at my comments issuing at least two apologies as a result…
But still no courage to own up to what you did…or admit that you did not follow up and vaccinate your kids…
Didn’t you state that you absolved yourself of any responsibility regarding anything i do with vaccinations and my children?
If yes – it’s none of your fucken business.
That’s what I said
What I then wrote was you were attemping to outsource your parental decision making onto my comments and that it was nothing to do with me…completely your choice to make…
That’s what you said.
so it’s none of your fucken business anymore is it numbnuts – it’s nothing to do with you as YOU YOURSELF state so fuck off. Do I need to get the crayons out?
Marty, your comment indicates that you’ve outsourced your parental responsibility, by using blog site commentary as a ‘rationale’ for changing your current perspective on a medical procedure…
Listen very carfully to my next comment…
Take responsibility for your own choices, and that of your children…
Don’t ever…ever seek to offload your medical choices to my handle, or anyone else…blog site, face to face…it doesn’t matter the interaction…
Own the choices..they are yours…and yours alone…
If you are actually serious…for the record I take no position, and bare no accountability for, or against your decision…nor could I be accountable for any possible outcome, positive, negative or otherwise resulting from your decisions…choices you make, marty…
I hope I’ve made that suitably clear…
It would be appropriate for you to respond saying you have received that messaging…
Should you choose to go ahead with the procedure…then post the dated scripts…and backup your comments with proof of YOUR actions resulting from YOUR choices..
jlr has nothing to lose and simon has everything to lose……
“Jami-Lee Ross has made further allegations against Simon Bridges by implying he was involved in the Chinese community’s attempts to have a Chinese minister appointed.”
That’s a direct allusion to neonazi cult novel The Turner Diaries, and a commonly heard threat from contemporary white nationalists and neonazis.
In the Turner Diaries, the day of the rope is when “race traitors” are executed en masse, including journalists. It’s a threat often made now to journalists — people have made it to me, and many other reporters who work in this area
The threat was made after the anonymous recipient criticized Blair Cottrell’s United Patriot Front. A home grown mass murderer/terrorist defending an Australian neonazi. This is an Australian problem
According to the story Victoria police told the recipient to block the man who would later massacre 50 innocent people
You can follow @cog_ink who wrote this story
This is the transnational problem that Congress allowed Candace Owens to mislead them about today
It’s days like these that I honestly feel like I feel like I am in some kind of dissociative state. When you see clear evidence of the problem juxtaposed with the totally unserious response to it
Ugh it’s affecting my sentence structure now, you know what I am saying
As a kid ‘the bad guys’ were the East who held people hostage in embassies, built walls, ran massive state propaganda through media & mass spy programs on their citizens.
Now who is doing that?
Luke Harding
He’s got to earn his Integrity Initiative money somehow after the embarrassment of “Collusion”
sign the DIEM petition and donate if you can
You’ve been fulsome in your support of a regime that routinely tortures, humiliates and sexually abuses women, break the women, and you break the family, as a strategy but my language offends your sensibilities.
Joe 90
Let it out, you are saying it for lots of us. Thanks that will be the end they will cherish though. Poor things get their kicks from acting the wise schoolmaster with a cane.
You can see why there is so much popularity for the supermarket style hardware store. The simple-minded can
wander round dragging their knuckles in their own time.
Just for those who like the stories of people who are difficult and hard to read their minds – here is Marty Feldmann from the old days with a great sketch.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPouuA0KMO4
I may be wrong but I think that’s “sarc”
In fact Assange was yelling out statements, not screaming, but the tough guys round here like to demean Assange, and the worst thing they can think of apparently is likening him to a “girl”
I thought McFlock was on the “Assange can do no right” side. Thay’re the one who use “the rapey one” and “Saint Julian” mockery.
To be fair, McFlock probably didn’t employ those terms on this site (just as I haven’t stated “Assange can do no wrong”), but we’re all entitled to our reckons.
I did think that one-line description of Assange’s arrest was belittling, but apologise for using “Like a girl”, with its obvious negative connotations; maybe “Like an infant” would have served, or maybe nothing at all, but it was a belittling description. We’ll have wait and see what sort of treatment he receives from the MSM and at the hands of UK justice.
That is the most insane shit I’ve ever heard. Seriously.
I frikken cried for days when I heard that Russia had decriminalised domestic abuse and made it ok to choke your wife, give her black eyes, cuts, bruises etc in the name of “restoring family values”.
Nobody gives a fuck about the fact that every year 3 million girls have their genitals mutilated with a dirty razor or that for women in Kyrgyzstan the first time they meet their husband is when he kidnaps her.
And repeatedly I’m told we women should be grateful for having it so much better than women did 50 years ago.
Fuck that. I won’t be happy until all women get the same freedoms and responsibilities as men, period.
“The bill would ban abortion at any stage of pregnancy and would criminalize women who have abortions and the physicians who perform them, even in cases of rape, human trafficking or incest. The bill directly conflicts with the landmark Roe v. Wade decision, which outlawed criminalizing abortion.”
So, in the US, if you get raped, not only will you be ripped to pieces in the legal system but you could be denied an abortion and then, just to finish as they started, they’ll offer the rapist a chance to exercise his parental rights.
fact is you will get charged with 2 homicide if you kill a pregnant women and even if you do so accidentally in a car accident.
there are so many heartbeat / live begins at ejaculation into a vagina amendments that really we could come to the conclusion that Us American women are nothing more then pre-pregnant sentient incubators.
this bill is not the first time it was sent for votes, and it will not be the last time.
If abortion is murder, then the women seeking the abortion is a killer. And homicide in many states of the US is met with the death penalty.
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First National Real Estate Chief Executive Bob Brereton is predicting that homes currently being built as part of a KiwiBuild development, in Te Kauwhata, will not sell and that the Government will be left with 175 homes and few, if ...
A short time ago, kaumatua and kuia representing mana whenua from Te Kawerau ā Maki, Te Ākitai Waiohua, and Tainui, walked onto the land that Fletcher Building owns at Ōruarangi Road, known as Ihumātao, and asked protestors to leave. ...
The Greenpeace climb of the Majestic Tower in Wellington is ignorant grandstanding says the Petroleum Exploration and Production Association of New Zealand (PEPANZ). ...
Tuesday, July 23: The two Greenpeace climbers who are scaling the outside of the tallest building in Wellington have unfurled the first of a series of banners. ...
The Independent Police Conduct Authority has found that an officer's decision to fire three warning shots to stop a fleeing driver from reversing towards him was not justified. ...
Government figures out today are consistent with what working people have told the Council of Trade Unions in our own survey, that a significant group of working Kiwis are unhappy and dissatisfied at work. Now the Government must act to ...
Deputy State Services Commissioner John Ombler has today announced the outcome of an examination of what led Inland Revenue to commission a public poll that included a question about the political leanings of taxpayers. ...
The Taxpayers’ Union is slamming Tracey Martin for wasting money on a meaningless “translation” of a written press statement into a sign language video, when the vast majority of any deaf or hard-of-hearing persons are perfectly capable of reading ...
Te Mana o Ngāti Rangitihi Trust (Te Mana) and Tūhourangi Tribal Authority (TTA) have announced that they will jointly negotiate with the Crown for the return of the lands at Waimangu and Otūkapuarangi. These lands have been at the centre ...
Government documents reveal the Ministry for Primary Industries (MPI) approved a shipment of cattle last month, despite the Government announcing a review into live export five days earlier. ...
“The Government’s second round of firearms reforms has hunters concerned that they will be burdened with onerous and unnecessary compliance and costs,” says Game Animal Council Chair Don Hammond. ...
The Council of Licenced Firearms Owners (COLFO) are concerned at the statements by Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Police Minister Stuart Nash at the Post-Cabinet Press Conference this afternoon stating that firearm ownership and licences should ...
National’s Climate Change spokesperson Todd Muller told Q+A he has “total confidence” that technology will be developed to mitigate the effects of climate change. “To simply take the New Zealand agriculture sector which is the most emissions efficient ...
PM can’t say whether the Government will meet its KiwiBuild goals. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern couldn’t say whether the Government would meet its goal of building 16-thousand KiwiBuild homes by the end of its first term. She was interviewed on ...
Greenpeace climbers are scaling the outside of the Majestic Centre, the tallest building in Wellington, to reach the headquarters of Austrian oil giant, OMV. ...
Media statement on behalf of Sir Edward Taihākurei Durie and Donna Marie Tai Tokerau Hall: Māori Television has admitted publishing false allegations about former High Court justice, Sir Edward Taihākurei Durie, and his wife, Donna Hall, and it has ...
Announcement today by the Prime Minister of further gun law reform is being shrouded by fear, so that scrutiny of the law is seen as an affront to the victims of the horror attack in March. The Prime Minister acknowledged ...
Misgivings about the practicality and cost of a firearms register is likely to dominate feedback from rural areas on the second round of proposed Arms Act amendments, Federated Farmers says. ...
School Strike 4 Climate NZ organisers Sophie Handford and Raven Maeder delivered a clear message to over 600 local government mayors, chairs, chief executives and councillors at the recent LGNZ conference : make climate change a priority. ...
The Police Association, Te Aka Hāpai backs the government’s emphasis on public safety as the driver of its second tranche of amendments to New Zealand’s firearms law, announced today. ...
The growing housing shortage crisis about more than supply and demand- it is about inequity. Recently released analysis by Kiwibank shows that last year’s “severe” shortage of housing has worsened, with the shortfall growing from 100,000 to 130,0000 ...
One of the country’s largest district health boards has a severe shortage of hospital specialists, says the senior doctors’ union, the Association of Salaried Medical Specialists (ASMS). ...
The New Zealand Taxpayers’ Union is joining opposition to possible regulations on the strength of nicotine vaping liquid. Taxpayers’ Union spokesman Louis Houlbrooke says, “The Government would certainly benefit from regulations on the strength ...
The Meat Industry Association (MIA) is calling for significant changes to the Zero Carbon Bill with a new analysis using the Government’s preferred modelling indicating that the proposed methane targets are excessive if all other gases go to net zero. ...
Victoria University Feminist Organisation and ALRANZ Abortion Rights Aotearoa, in conjunction with the VUW Feminist Law Students, Organise Aotearoa, Fem Force, and with the support of VUW Student Association announced they are sponsoring a march ...
With the Government's firearm buyback scheme starting to draw over 30,000 police man hours away from fighting crime, the safety of law abiding citizens is being compromised. ...
Social Credit Party leader Chris Leitch is calling on the sale of Westland Milk to Chinese company Yili to be put on hold pending an approach to the Government by Westland Milk for funding assistance. ...
Associate Health Minister Jenny Salesa seems intent on ensuring the Government’s vaping legislation will heavily target flavours and nicotine levels – a move that would be completely counterproductive to helping Kiwis quit smoking and achieving ...
A new website has launched in response to recent RNZ reporting about Police in Dunedin unlawfully entering people’s homes and breath-testing them. “I was disgusted when I saw what they cops were doing in Dunedin. Their behaviour undermines all of ...
Hundreds of whanau and Maori leaders gathered at a hui in Mangere last weekend where they voted unanimously for an inquiry into Oranga Tamariki. The historic meeting called for a child welfare framework to be developed by Maori, for Maori. ...
The Head of the New Zealand Maori Council has called for the Government to hold an immediate investigation into the global cosmetics company Sephora after they were caught dumping waste hundreds and thousands of waste paper products embedded with ...
Simon Shepherd: The government says its agreement with farmers, that they should pay for agricultural emissions, is historic. But there's no agreement on how. One proposal says farmers should pay a 5 per cent emissions tax. Another suggests farmers ...
The O’Brien Institute for Public Health at Calgary University has just released their report on fluoridation. This institute has, up to now, been staunchly in favour of fluoridation. However, yesterday, with regards to fluoride’s effect on the brain, ...
July 19 (BusinessDesk) - The government is looking to tighten control and impose harsher penalties after the Mycoplasma bovis outbreak revealed cracks in the country's stock management system. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Belinda Nicholson, Lecturer, University of Southern Queensland Curious Kids is a series for children. If you have a question you’d like an expert to answer, send it to curiouskids@theconversation.edu.au You might also ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Ray Markey, Emeritus Professor, Macquarie University One of the Coalition government’s first priorities in the new parliament is the passage of its Ensuring Integrity Bill, aimed at tightening regulations on unions and ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Peter Koval, Academic, Melbourne School of Psychological Sciences, University of Melbourne How does a woman feel when a man wolf-whistles at her from across the street? Or when a male coworker gives ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Daniel Edwards, Research Director, Australian Council for Educational Research Australia spent A$111.8 billion on education in 2015, the most recent year for which the full dataset for all levels of education spending ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Neil Sipe, Professor of Urban and Regional Planning, The University of Queensland While car parking was a non-negotiable amenity for baby boomers, it is an eyesore to millennials and the up-and-coming iGen. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Peter Whiteford, Professor, Crawford School of Public Policy, Australian National University Since parliament has resumed three Liberal members – Dean Smith, Russell Broadbent and Andrew Wallace – have joined a group of ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Renee Knake, RMIT Fulbright Distinguished Chair in Entrepreneurship and Innovation; Professor of Law at the University of Houston, RMIT University In this series, we look at under-acknowledged women through the ages. When ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michael Roderick, Professor, Research School of Earth Sciences and Chief Investigator in the ARC Centre of Excellence for Climate Extremes, Australian National University The federal parliament has voted to funnel A$200 million ...
Good morning, and welcome to The Bulletin. In today’s edition: Tax break for oil rigs raises subsidy questions, crackdown by police against Ihumātao occupation, and Boris Johnson set to become UK PM.A story about tax breaks for oil rigs has ...
The 700-page Thomas Piketty economic treatise Capital in the 21st Century was a surprise blockbuster five years ago. Now it’s been made into a documentary film, directed and produced by New Zealanders. The message is out there, Danyl Mclauchlan writes ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michelle Grattan, Professorial Fellow, University of Canberra Scott Morrison on Tuesday had a firm message for his troops in the Coalition party room. Don’t go freelancing in public. Discipline is important in ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Simon Tormey, Professor of Politics, University of Sydney To no-one’s great surprise, Boris Johnson has been elected by the members of the Conservative Party to be the new leader, and by extension ...
Funny, charismatic, erudite – what could possibly go wrong? The votes are in and the people have decided – correction: the Conservative Party membership has decided – that the new prime minister of the United Kingdom shall be Alexander Boris ...
Opinion - The gun buyback scheme is working to remove firearms from society and enforcement laws are strong, but creating a meaningful gun registry is also essential, writes Lew Stoddart. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Therese Keane, Associate Professor, Deputy Chair Department of Education, Swinburne University of Technology A cute human-like robot taught students in a small, rural school how to code while also helping them learn ...
After months of protest, the last occupants were moved off Ihumātao in south Auckland by police this afternoon. Don Rowe reports. Most of the occupants of Ihumātao had been moved on. The police, numbering at least 30, had finally made good ...
Hundreds of people marched to Parliament today calling for reform of New Zealand's abortion laws, as Cabinet prepares to consider a bill that would remove abortion from the Crimes Act. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Michelle Grattan, Professorial Fellow, University of Canberra The two Centre Alliance senators, Stirling Griff and Rex Patrick will often be pivotal to the fate of government legislation. The smaller non-Green Senate crossbench ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Chongyi Feng, Associate Professor in China Studies, University of Technology Sydney Australian authorities have been told to stop interfering in the case of the Chinese-Australian writer Dr Yang Hengjun who has been ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Tess Newton Cain, Adjunct Associate Professor, School of Political Science & International Studies, The University of Queensland Papua New Guinea Prime Minister James Marape is visiting Australia this week, his first overseas ...
The Greens may have achieved their sought-after mainstream credibility, and scored some wins in government, but commentators warn this will not necessarily result in more votes. On the contrary – it might even result in a loss of enthusiasm from ...
Dr Bryce EdwardsThe supposed end of the 20-year standoff between environmentalists and farmers was announced last week, with the release of the Interim Climate Change Committee’s report on “Action on agricultural emissions”. It was celebrated as an “historic consensus” ...
Editor’s Note: Here below is a list of the main issues currently under discussion in New Zealand and links to media coverage.New Zealand Parliament Buildings, Wellington, New Zealand.Today’s contentGovernment Joseph Nunweek (Spinoff): Jacinda Ardern and bringing the ...
The 2019 budget put aside $300m for venture capital for small to medium-sized startups with the hope it will allow businesses to grow locally and stay in New Zealand for longer. In a small rural town on the east coast ...
To give the Pacific a fighting chance Australia and NZ need to take a stand, writes a Fijian litigator and activist.Climate change is now an everyday reality for the Pacific. Its impact on our countries is undeniable. To remain within ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Christine Grové, Educational Psychologist and Lecturer, Monash University Curious Kids is a series for children. If you have a question you’d like an expert to answer, send it to curiouskids@theconversation.edu.au You might ...
Questions about political leanings in surveys by Inland Revenue, DOC and Stats NZ were inappropriate and had the potential to undermine political neutrality, a report has found. ...
Treaty Negotiations Minister Andrew Little says he cannot understand why the previous government ever accepted Ngāpuhi's problematic Tūhoronuku mandate. ...
The Electricity Authority’s latest take on transmission prices has softened the expected hike in power prices for Aucklanders from $176 per year to $21 a year. ...
New Zealanders are as parochial about charity as they are about sport, with only a fraction of the money we donate leaving our shores or even going outside our local areas.Less than 9% of private donations in New Zealand go ...
Infrastructure investor Infratil is looking for potential buyers of a group of mature investments across Australia and NZ's health, education and prison sectors,according to the AFR. ...
A nightmarish and near-fatal high-speed pursuit of a New Zealand Chinese family concluded with a judge rejecting the prosecution’s request for hate crime sentencing. Tze Ming Mok discusses why New Zealand’s approach to hate crime is utterly useless.I don’t like ...
The Māori midwives on the frontline of whānau care and Oranga Tamariki scrutiny say their voices are going unheard and their wisdom unheeded.*All names have been changed to protect the privacy of those involvedNewsroom’s powerful investigation into Oranga Tamariki’s attempt ...
From fine art school graduates to hobbyists, magazine-making talent from all over the city is showcased in Auckland Zinefest. Lucy Zee went along to check out the zines and meet some makers.Aucklanders love a festival. If it’s not food, wine ...
Ngāpuhi and Te Rarawa artist Nikau Hindin has recently been taught by ancestors in Hawai’i the skills of beating tapa or barkcloth, reviving as contemporary form a Māori art largely lost after the extinction of the aute plant in Aotearoa. ...
Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has stopped short of committing to a declaration of climate emergency in Parliament, despite again saying she supports such a move. ...
Pacific Media Watch Newsdesk Reporters Without Borders (RSF) has called on the Australian authorities to drop all charges against four French TV journalists who – in what RSF called an “unacceptable attack on investigative journalism” – were arrested yesterday ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Neville Nicholls, Professor emeritus, School of Earth, Atmosphere and Environment, Monash University This month the world has been celebrating the 50th anniversary of Neil Armstrong setting foot on the Moon. But this ...
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The person responsible for the ad has been sent to their bedroom for further scapegoating. The Green Party is standing by its views that 16-year-olds should be eligible to vote, even as they acknowledge that they shouldn’t have let them ...11 hours ago
My idealistic position on the role of MPs was articulated by Edmund Burke: ‘Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgment; and he betrays, instead of serving you, if he sacrifices it to your opinion.’read more ...13 hours ago
Last year, the Supreme Court ruled on the pillage of swamp kauri, stating clearly that export was forbidden unless it had been clearly turned into a finished product. But less than a month later, MPI was again approving minimally carved ...17 hours ago
Having spent the last 3 months in these countries and getting some appreciation of their dependence on fossil fuels – oil, gas, coal – one realises how loopy is the idea popular in societies like New Zealand that have negligible ...21 hours ago
I have been unimpressed with Western corporate media coverage of the tensions involving Iran in the Straits of Hormuz. They repeat the line that Iran is the source of current tensions, that it is a major sponsor of terrorism, that ...3 days ago
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Much like Tuvalu, the manmade climate change Cult love to tell people the Maldives is almost totally underwater. In fact the dishonest Maldives Govt d on the same bandwagon, believing they would receive billions of dollars aid from other Countries ...3 days ago
As the entry on Wikipedia shows (and no, one doesn’t necessarily have to regard Wikipedia as the be-all and end-all of truth, because it isn’t on a great many things, to agree with the following): “…a fallacious argument that concludes ...4 days ago
by Daphna Whitmore The story of how the world awoke to a big injustice is starting to be told. The Pacific Games held this month in Samoa is another chapter. On the podium was Laurel Hubbard, the giant transgender weightlifter, ...4 days ago
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Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Belinda Nicholson, Lecturer, University of Southern Queensland Curious Kids is a series for children. If you have a question you’d like an expert to answer, send it to curiouskids@theconversation.edu.au You might also ...19 mins ago
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Went in for our ‘flu jabs today. A lady going to the Phillippines was having a measles jab as there have been 300 people* aprox die of it over there, and millions more are at risk.
But, but, patricia bremner freedom of speech in all its forms is far more important. People are entitled to surf the internet and read all manner of crackpot assertions like measle vaccine causes autism and any number of other conspiratorial pseudo scientific claptrap because that is their right. If children/people die because of their claims then well… that’s just unfortunate. (sarc)
In all seriousness, I’ve had it up to my eyeballs with these dumb bunnies of both sexes who have wielded so much power and caused such irreparable harm. I refer as well to the anti-fluoride gang and the CC deniers.
I think you’ll find that vaccine hesitancy in the Philippines has more to do with the Dengavxia whoopsie rather than Wakefield inspired woo.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6214489/
https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/news-feature/2019/02/09/1892266/commentary-growing-challenge-vaccination-campaign-philippines
But carry on with your wee rant if it relieves the pressure.
Take heart Anne, the day is fast coming when your side will win and any opinion not strictly adhering to the accepted narrative will be banned.
Because everything the government says is true, is, right?
I take it then that you are one of those who have fallen for the conspiratorial pseudo science so beloved of anti vaxxers and CC deniers etc? Perhaps you also don’t comprehend a little bit of tongue in cheek language.
Whatever… I was replying to patricia bremner and fully agreeing with her inferred premise.
Time you made an effort to curb your catty remarks Rosemary McDonald.
No, I’m not an avid anti -vaxxer, although I do very much understand where concern about MMR comes from after the the Urabe scandal/cover up of the late eighties/early nineties. You will of course remember that..there was scientific parers written about it and everything…much of the story was revealed only after OIA type requests.
https://academic.oup.com/aje/article/165/6/704/63700
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1544592/Vaccine-officials-knew-about-MMR-risks.html
And you see that’s just it…the government deliberately ignored warnings from overseas jurisdictions about the Urabe strain of mumps virus and put children’s lives at risk. Complete honesty and transparency from Our Leaders would go a long way towards inspiring trust.
“Unfortunately, the crisis that we are dealing with now is based on results from clinical trials backed up by autopsies linking some deaths to Dengvaxia [6]. These findings may serve as proof against vaccine safety and might have a negative impact on other vaccination programs. With the news being widely circulated through media, this would not just affect Philippines but also other parts of the world.”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6214489/
Some of us Anne choose to do our own research rather than blindly accept establishment approved ‘Science’. Keeping one’s mind open just a crack…let the light in?
“In all seriousness, I’ve had it up to my eyeballs with these dumb bunnies of both sexes who have wielded so much power and caused such irreparable harm. I refer as well to the anti-fluoride gang and the CC deniers.”
Meow.
I’ve had it up to my eyeballs with these dumb bunnies of both sexes who have wielded so much power and caused such irreparable harm.
And you respond with a Meow? Strange bit of cognition there.
And btw, I will always support the officially recognised scientific experts over any pseudo scientists who roam the internet spreading misinformation. Not surprising given my former career was in one of the sciences.
“…any pseudo scientists who roam the internet spreading misinformation.”
So, the problem with Dengvaxia is pseudo science?
So the wording of the article describing the effect the deaths from Dengvaxia have had on vaccine uptake does not concern you?
““Unfortunately, the crisis that we are dealing with now is based on results from clinical trials backed up by autopsies linking some deaths to Dengvaxia [6]. These findings may serve as proof against vaccine safety and might have a negative impact on other vaccination programs. With the news being widely circulated through media, this would not just affect Philippines but also other parts of the world.””
Seems to be implying that the greatest misfortune is not the proven deaths from Dengvaxia, but the fact that they were widely publicised.
And it is just that attitude that increases mistrust.
So, the ‘dumb bunnies’ in the Dengvaxia fiasco are? The media for reporting the deaths caused by the vaccine? The scientists for linking the deaths with the vaccine? The media accurately reporting that the scientists had found a link between the deaths and the vaccine? Members of the public who become less trusting of the drug company products because the media accurately reported that the drug company’s product caused people harm?
See, it’s a little more complicated than just ‘pro’ or ‘anti’. It is highly disrespectful to condemn people as being ‘dumb’ because they don’t happen to agree with one’s own views.
Bear in mind that despite what you perceive as an anti-vax propaganda epidemic on the internet….the vast majority of people are following state proscribed vaccination programmes….in most case more than enough folk are vaccinating to achieve the desired herd immunity.
https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/preventative-health-wellness/immunisation/immunisation-coverage/national-and-dhb-immunisation-data
There are small pockets of those who refuse vaccines…these will be your anti-vaxxers…. but they are not the major cause of low uptake in in particular communities, according to someone who should know…
“Auckland University Immunisation Advisory Centre head Nikki Turner said said there was no need for a separate public health campaign against anti-vaxxers.
“I don’t think we should ignore the anti-vaccination lobby but I think we should put it into context.
“It is a very small percentage of the New Zealand population.
“We need to understand it and respond to it, and definitely put more resources and thinking into it, but it is a very small part of why we are not getting high immunisation coverage rates.”
Dr Turner said there were other problems with delivering immunisations, beyond what she called vaccine hesitancy, and New Zealand would be better off dealing with those.
“We need to systematically know which children are missing out and offer them services.
“And then respond appropriately in those localised communities that have got myth and rumour and social media stories rife within them.
“That’s where we need extra support.”
The Health Ministry said immunisation rates, which had been rising, reached a plateau and then began to fall in early 2017.
It meant immunisation coverage went from 93 percent on average at eight months, and 91 percent for Māori children, to 91 percent and 86 percent respectively.”
https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/384112/hospital-bosses-want-anti-anti-vax-campaign
It is far too easy to blame a slight fall in immunisation coverage on those you refer to as ‘dumb bunny anti vaxxers’ Anne. As always, as a scientist should know, there are often multiple factors.
And btw, I will always support the officially recognised scientific experts over any pseudo scientists who roam the internet spreading misinformation
Anne, as I have previously stated…you are woefully underinformed and misinformed on this subject, that you are incapable of developing a rational opinion…it is not possible to achieve with such an inadequate data set…
There is a plethora of reports, studies and other ‘evidence’, including from the very same ‘officially recognized experts/establishments’ which illustrate the severe problems with the ‘industry/reglators’…that you’re obviously not aware of…
That only severe congnitive dissonance coud lead you to making such logically flawed statements…
Not a single one in the current CDC schedule of FDA licensed vaccines was tested against an inert placebo control group in pre-licensure testing…
Once a licence is approved it becomes legally unethical for a control group to ever be used…
Can you understand the gravitas of what that means…
Clear off and stop harassing us. Next thing you’ll be tell us you’re Jesus.
You have it twisted, Anne…
Those who post comments and dissmissive insults, such as you have repeatedly done…from a position of total ignorance…
…Are discriminating against every biological being that has been injured, damaged and killed by the ‘one size fits all’ industry which you explicitly and repeatedly endorse…
When confronted with counter information and commentary…you continue the same insulting, dismissive and discriminatory tactics…
Your comments are extremely discriminatory, they are deeply mysogenistic, they are flawed and without factual basis…
You, Anne…are doing the harassing…
I hope the lady traveling to the Philippines has checked her TB immune status.
28,000 deaths from TB in the Philippines…http://www.wpro.who.int/philippines/areas/communicable_diseases/tb/story_continuation_tb_area_page/en/
Perhaps this years flu shot may even be 10% effective…that’s an exaggerated figure…it’s one of the least tested least effective vaccines of all…
There is no measles vaccine in NZ…only the MMR vaccine which also contains a live virus…getting on a plane should be avoided…
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2015/03/03/globe-newswire-public-health-officials-know-recently-vaccinated-individuals-spread-disease.html
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/philippines-says-to-charge-officials-of-sanofi-government-over-dengue-deaths/ar-BBUez2W
sigh…
MMR vaccine is a measles + mumps vaccine + rubella vaccine it contains live attenuated virus which while providing an immune response does not cause the disease in healthy individuals.
Severely immunocompromised persons (undergoing treatment for cancer for example or with immune disorders) are at small risk of catching the attenuated virus from people immunised for a few days until the attenuated virus is cleared from the person immunised. This risk and severity of illness is far lower than if the immunocompromised individual was to come into contact with a person suffering from measles, mumps, chickenpox etc.
The flu vaccine is very effective against those strains which it is manufactured from – you can’t catch the flu from from the flu vaccine.
You either have not read…or failed to understand the issues around vaccine actual shedding and vaccine failure…including in highly vaccinated populations…proven to be responsible for communicating the disease…
The flu vaccine comment is equally uninformed…
10% ‘effective’…is highly innefective…useless…untested…year in year out…
I’ll leave you to it…
Where did you get the 10% from? Ex anos uno-dos?
You admit to getting the flu shot…presumably you’ve done some reading into it before you went the first time…
If not…your choice…as you said…if it fails…no harm no foul…not that you could know…because it’s untested…
We had this same convo a few days ago…if you recall…
Are you in an ‘at risk group’?
Dear Phil please go and gob off one of your vegan dogs
At first I was all “zouch that’s a zinger!”, but now I am genuinely curious as to whether vegans spit or swallow after fellating someone to completion.
Good questions.
That’ll be a good question for when
Paul Ed Jinxfinds a way back onsite.Unsurprisingly you find that a ‘good question’ Andre…
Didn’t take you long to turn up here…so very predictable…
Almost a full turn out of the angry little man group…
It’s not the size of the man that counts, it’s when he decides to stand up.
Almost a full turn out of the angry little man group…
Who’s missing?
Well, milt…you’re here…
I don’t include you in there though…
Not presently…Andre was scouting for recruits in the black hole thread…
You keen?
Well I went to your first link and read it and then went to the source of that doc – “Source:Weston A. Price Foundation” crew – read a wee bit on them and then found the counter position on them and this is what it said,
“Since I started writing for Science-Based Medicine almost 8 years ago, I have visited many, many websites offering questionable information about health. In my opinion, the Weston A. Price Foundation is one of the worst. It is full of misinformation and dangerous advice. It might be useful in reverse: if you read it on WAPF, it is probably wrong.”
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/sbm-weston-prices-appalling-legacy/
I didn’t bother reading the other one one two – bit disappointed though with the quality of that link I have to say.
Marty I posted that link because it’s a mainstream news site referring to John Hopkins School of Medicine advice…
And if you don’t know or care about the denghi vaccine failures in Philippines…so be it…
But you’ve posted to David Gorski’s site…and then criticise the link I posted…ironic really…
Especially as you like to express how you stand up for human beings…
Spend some time reading Orac Gorskis site…get a feel for the…vibe…
Read…don’t read…your choice…
Post the vaccine certs…mouthy…
So you got it wrong again? I thought that was the case. Ta.
What did I get wrong…again…according to you marty?
Go ahead…ignore my comments…again…twist them…again…
But at least explain with some details about why I’m wrong IYO…and why you’ve failed to say why you posted to Gorski…it was the first returned search eh…closely followed by the Offit site..
No surprise marty…I’ve got your number every time…you’re so full of it…
Are you going to abuse me…and then apologise again…?
Maybe just the abuse this time…
Post your kids vaccine certs…
Didn’t you state that you absolved yourself of any responsibility regarding anything i do with vaccinations and my children?
If yes – it’s none of your fucken business.
If no – you’re a fucken liar.
simple enough for you bigfartbrain?
smarten up junior.
What I wrote was in response to your comment which essentially said you had previously not vaccinated your kids…but because of comments I had posted…you’d changed your mind and stated getting the shots the following week…this exchange was approx 3 weeks ago no more than 4wks…easily searchable…
What I then wrote was you were attemping to outsource your parental decision making onto my comments and that it was nothing to do with me…completely your choice to make…
I did ask you to post the certs as evidence you are true to your words…given you had made it my business … you did that…
You’ve failed to post the certs or admit you were and are utterly full of hot air…
Additionally since that time you’ve been abusive at my comments issuing at least two apologies as a result…
But still no courage to own up to what you did…or admit that you did not follow up and vaccinate your kids…
Yeah…but I’m the ‘liar’…
Liar and liar again – you’re a fucken piece of shit and a fucken coward. Oh and you’re a liar did I mention that.
A liar outed as a liar and a sad sack of nothing lol one two you are too fucken easy you useless arsehole haha
Where and how is my version of events…incorrect?
That’s what I said
That’s what you said.
so it’s none of your fucken business anymore is it numbnuts – it’s nothing to do with you as YOU YOURSELF state so fuck off. Do I need to get the crayons out?
14 March 2019 at 10:29 pm
Marty, your comment indicates that you’ve outsourced your parental responsibility, by using blog site commentary as a ‘rationale’ for changing your current perspective on a medical procedure…
Listen very carfully to my next comment…
Take responsibility for your own choices, and that of your children…
Don’t ever…ever seek to offload your medical choices to my handle, or anyone else…blog site, face to face…it doesn’t matter the interaction…
Own the choices..they are yours…and yours alone…
If you are actually serious…for the record I take no position, and bare no accountability for, or against your decision…nor could I be accountable for any possible outcome, positive, negative or otherwise resulting from your decisions…choices you make, marty…
I hope I’ve made that suitably clear…
It would be appropriate for you to respond saying you have received that messaging…
Should you choose to go ahead with the procedure…then post the dated scripts…and backup your comments with proof of YOUR actions resulting from YOUR choices..
He’s bats mm. I’ve told him as much.
Best to leave him now with his fantasies.
thanks Anne yep you’re right – it’s my birthday so I’ve certainly got better things to do lol.
Birthday wishes marty mars. The sun has come out after our storm. Peace and sunshine and laughter to you.
How very phillurian…
…
jlr has nothing to lose and simon has everything to lose……
“Jami-Lee Ross has made further allegations against Simon Bridges by implying he was involved in the Chinese community’s attempts to have a Chinese minister appointed.”
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/04/jami-lee-ross-brings-more-allegations-against-national-s-simon-bridges.html
Of course Cotterell is in the mix.
https://twitter.com/jason_a_w/status/1115721859939459075
That’s a direct allusion to neonazi cult novel The Turner Diaries, and a commonly heard threat from contemporary white nationalists and neonazis.
In the Turner Diaries, the day of the rope is when “race traitors” are executed en masse, including journalists. It’s a threat often made now to journalists — people have made it to me, and many other reporters who work in this area
The threat was made after the anonymous recipient criticized Blair Cottrell’s United Patriot Front. A home grown mass murderer/terrorist defending an Australian neonazi. This is an Australian problem
According to the story Victoria police told the recipient to block the man who would later massacre 50 innocent people
You can follow @cog_ink who wrote this story
This is the transnational problem that Congress allowed Candace Owens to mislead them about today
It’s days like these that I honestly feel like I feel like I am in some kind of dissociative state. When you see clear evidence of the problem juxtaposed with the totally unserious response to it
Ugh it’s affecting my sentence structure now, you know what I am saying
https://tttthreads.com/thread/1115721859939459075.html
Israel Folau has been given the arse.
Yes. https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/sport/386868/israel-folau-to-be-sacked-by-rugby-australia
Heh! God moves in a mysterious way His wonders to perform 😉
Assange given the arse and arrested in London
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-47891737
Worst houseguest ever.
Great. Only another three years of legal wrangling to go lol
Starfish?
Many readers of this site who share Mike Hoskings view of Assange will be delighted to hear that Ecuador has evicted Assange and he has been arrested by the UK police.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12220162
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/11/world/europe/julian-assange-wikileaks-ecuador-embassy.html
Knock yourselves out on the schadenfreude
So shameful.
As a kid ‘the bad guys’ were the East who held people hostage in embassies, built walls, ran massive state propaganda through media & mass spy programs on their citizens.
Now who is doing that?
The pre-written article is likely being dusted off for upload…
Whose the author, you reckon?
Luke Harding
He’s got to earn his Integrity Initiative money somehow after the embarrassment of “Collusion”
sign the DIEM petition and donate if you can
TRP may have set a site upload record…
TFW Assange is given a slap on the wrist for failing to surrender to the court and it dawns on him that he’s wasted seven years of his life.
Almost word for word Hoskings .
Not surprised
And TBF, you’re the one with a boner for the war criminal Assad and his murderous gangster mate.
I don’t get boners mate
You wannabe tough guys are so full of your toxic penis talk
Toxic penis talk – Great name for a boy band
You’ve been fulsome in your support of a regime that routinely tortures, humiliates and sexually abuses women, break the women, and you break the family, as a strategy but my language offends your sensibilities.
Fuck you.
And you’ve managed to perform most of those abuses through your comments…to a woman…
Doubling down …not a good policy at the best of times…
You’re scraping the absolute bottom of the barrel here…
Seriously Joe..you need to stop this…you went past offensive some time back…
Best you go fuck yourself, too.
Joe 90
Let it out, you are saying it for lots of us. Thanks that will be the end they will cherish though. Poor things get their kicks from acting the wise schoolmaster with a cane.
keep digging Joe
Using the the word ‘boner’, with intent…towards a handle with a womans name…highly probable to be a female…
Time out time.
‘boner’, with intent – Great name for generic viagra
”towards a handle’ reminded me of this
Thanks mm I needed that.
You can see why there is so much popularity for the supermarket style hardware store. The simple-minded can
wander round dragging their knuckles in their own time.
Just for those who like the stories of people who are difficult and hard to read their minds – here is Marty Feldmann from the old days with a great sketch.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPouuA0KMO4
Classic!
Ronnie Corbett nearly loses it at the “sore tips” point. Tips for saws lols.
It’s a classic alright.
+100000000000000000000
There is a vast swathe of the left that I’m quite sure would thrive under a “regime” or totalitarian dictatorship.
Can Assange use your reckons in his extradition defense? “LOL”
The majority response here to this news is unsettling. No surprise James is piling in.
[What a ‘girl‘!]
^^ What is ‘unsettling’ is your little add-on.
I may be wrong but I think that’s “sarc”
In fact Assange was yelling out statements, not screaming, but the tough guys round here like to demean Assange, and the worst thing they can think of apparently is likening him to a “girl”
“and the worst thing they can think of apparently is likening him to a “girl””
Yes. That was my point. I thought most intelligent men were over using sexist insults.
I thought Drowsy was on the “Assange can do no wrong” side. Thay’re the one who added the “like a girl” line.
I thought McFlock was on the “Assange can do no right” side. Thay’re the one who use “the rapey one” and “Saint Julian” mockery.
To be fair, McFlock probably didn’t employ those terms on this site (just as I haven’t stated “Assange can do no wrong”), but we’re all entitled to our reckons.
I did think that one-line description of Assange’s arrest was belittling, but apologise for using “Like a girl”, with its obvious negative connotations; maybe “Like an infant” would have served, or maybe nothing at all, but it was a belittling description. We’ll have wait and see what sort of treatment he receives from the MSM and at the hands of UK justice.
Been so long. Don’t recall calling him the rapey one. But then, it’s a fair description.
In general, wikileaks was a bloody good thing. But that doesn’t mean he should not face his sexual assault accusations.
You do the crime you do the time.
If found guilty he deserves everything he gets.
Well. Jacinda Ardern’s name has become a rallying cry for women the globe over. We really are now on the cusp of something special.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12221561
The right, so pro-life they’ll kill for it.
AUSTIN, Texas – State legislators stayed up well into the morning hearing emotional testimony about a proposed abortion ban.
House Bill 896 would criminalize abortion and classify it as a homicide. Women who have abortions could be sentenced to the death penalty.
http://www.fox5dc.com/news/texas-lawmakers-consider-the-death-penalty-for-abortion
That is the most insane shit I’ve ever heard. Seriously.
I frikken cried for days when I heard that Russia had decriminalised domestic abuse and made it ok to choke your wife, give her black eyes, cuts, bruises etc in the name of “restoring family values”.
Nobody gives a fuck about the fact that every year 3 million girls have their genitals mutilated with a dirty razor or that for women in Kyrgyzstan the first time they meet their husband is when he kidnaps her.
And repeatedly I’m told we women should be grateful for having it so much better than women did 50 years ago.
Fuck that. I won’t be happy until all women get the same freedoms and responsibilities as men, period.
“The bill would ban abortion at any stage of pregnancy and would criminalize women who have abortions and the physicians who perform them, even in cases of rape, human trafficking or incest. The bill directly conflicts with the landmark Roe v. Wade decision, which outlawed criminalizing abortion.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/texas-lawmakers-consider-death-penalty-women-who-get-abortions-n993171
So, in the US, if you get raped, not only will you be ripped to pieces in the legal system but you could be denied an abortion and then, just to finish as they started, they’ll offer the rapist a chance to exercise his parental rights.
https://theestablishment.co/the-unique-hell-of-fighting-your-rapist-for-custody-8fbb1cff52b3/
it has been a long time coming.
fact is you will get charged with 2 homicide if you kill a pregnant women and even if you do so accidentally in a car accident.
there are so many heartbeat / live begins at ejaculation into a vagina amendments that really we could come to the conclusion that Us American women are nothing more then pre-pregnant sentient incubators.
this bill is not the first time it was sent for votes, and it will not be the last time.
If abortion is murder, then the women seeking the abortion is a killer. And homicide in many states of the US is met with the death penalty.
I mean clearly its a very pro-life action.
Well property is sacred joey, wouldn’t surprise me if rustlin was still a lynchin offense in Taxes.