Daily Review 30/09/2015

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1. mickysavage 1

   30 September 2015 at 6:04 pm

   Labour released the above graphic today.

   I quite like it but some of Wellington’s twitterati has responded negatively. Yes the graphic hails back to the Iwi Kiwi billboards John Ansell did in 2005 but in a retro sort of way they are really good. And they neatly sum up a difference between Labour and National.
   • Bill 1.1

     30 September 2015 at 6:13 pm

     Well, if it does remind people of the Iwi/Kiwi billboards, so what? It kind of lends it power if that’s people’s immediate association, no? Are some upset because it isn’t blandly and safely reminiscent of a Tui billboard?
   • Anne 1.2

     30 September 2015 at 6:39 pm

     Love it! Short and pithy. What I have been wanting to see for ages. Bugger Wellington’s twitterati. They’re the last people to bother about. It’s the ordinary voters who count.
     • millsy 1.2.1

       30 September 2015 at 6:50 pm

       The Wellington twitterati are what’s holding the left back.

       Ansell may be a Crimp-ist right wing prick, but he is a good ad and PR-man. I would hire him for my ad campaign.
       • weka 1.2.1.1

         30 September 2015 at 7:08 pm

         Ok, I think that explains why some are upset at what Labour have done.
       • Rodel 1.2.1.2

         1 October 2015 at 8:45 am

         Clever idea and humerous but still failed to get Brash in as PM.
   • Lanthanide 1.3

     30 September 2015 at 6:52 pm

     I always thought the Iwi / Kiwi billboards were a master stroke.

     Call 111 for:
     Cabs          Cops
     • Anne 1.3.1

       30 September 2015 at 7:14 pm

       The salient point is, the Iwi / Kiwi billboards of 2005 pandered to racism and prejudice. This one is true. It IS the difference between National and Labour. That’s what makes it a real master stroke.
   • Draco T Bastard 1.4

     30 September 2015 at 7:00 pm

     I assume the RWNJ twitterati?
     • weka 1.4.1

       30 September 2015 at 7:07 pm

       It’s the lefties I’ve seen.
     • mickysavage 1.4.2

       30 September 2015 at 7:11 pm

       Some left wing. I exempt Giovanni Tiso because of his incredible skills but others annoy me because they are always critical and say that Labour is doing it wrong but I am not sure what proposals they have for improvement or if they even have any actual political campaigning experience.
       • weka 1.4.2.1

         30 September 2015 at 7:25 pm

         Some of it is funny eg @megapope’s versions, but in looks like the general antipathy towards Labour, and the clever dick culture as much as anything (which makes it kind of similar to ts). I wonder how the non-Pākehā Labour MPs and members feel about the pisstakes.
         • mickysavage 1.4.2.1.1

           30 September 2015 at 7:47 pm

           Yep annoys me. Having spent a great of time doing on the ground campaigning I know how irrelevant their views are and their suggestions on how campaigns should be run are lacking in any sort of understanding of the on the ground reality.

           I appreciate their intellectualism but sometimes you can over intellectualise things.
           • Anne 1.4.2.1.1.1

             30 September 2015 at 8:25 pm

             Many academics (not all of them of course) lack ordinary common sense. They live in their self-styled ivory towers and don’t have much idea what is happening at ground level.
2. AceMcWicked 2

   30 September 2015 at 6:31 pm

   It is funny
   • Jenny Kirk 2.1

     30 September 2015 at 8:41 pm

     As a longtime Labour stalwart, I thought it very funny, and apt. Loved it. More please.
3. ianmac 3

   30 September 2015 at 6:50 pm

   Specific. Memorable. Great start.
4. millsy 4

   30 September 2015 at 7:21 pm

   http://www.citylab.com/commute/2015/09/more-towns-are-falling-in-love-with-golf-carts/406081/

   Check out this interesting article.

   Could we be barking up the wrong tree in terms of electric car adoption , and instead start encouraging the use of golf carts for people to get round their neighbourhoods?

   They are more expensive can cars, but long term savings can be derives, such as fuel, maintenance, etc, and they require less carpark room that cars do?
   • Draco T Bastard 4.1

     30 September 2015 at 7:28 pm

     Personal transportation in the form of cars is the wrong tree.
     • millsy 4.1.1

       30 September 2015 at 7:30 pm

       Like or not, expecting people to take the bus/taxi is unrealistic, all the time.

       I support public transport, but private transport is more flexible.
       • Draco T Bastard 4.1.1.1

         30 September 2015 at 7:58 pm

         I support public transport, but private transport is more flexible.

         Not really. Wander down to the bus stop and catch the bus that goes past every half hour (every few minutes during peak hours) and goes exactly where you want to go and you don’t have to worry about parking, the car getting stolen or DIC. That would probably account for 90%+ of trips as most of the time the car is simply getting you to and from work.

         And the rest of the time I doubt if you need the flexibility so much as to make it worth $10000 per year. Really, for those few times when you really do need the flexibility – hire a taxi, it’d be cheaper.

         And remember, a car sits still for ~95% of the time.

         If people actually did the figures about owning a car they’d get rid of them real fast. Unfortunately, they don’t tote up the amount that they spend on fuel, maintenance and insurance, don’t look at what they’re using it for and if it’s thus worth the costs.
         • millsy 4.1.1.1.1

           30 September 2015 at 8:03 pm

           What if you have kids? Sick? Need to lug something home?
           • Draco T Bastard 4.1.1.1.1.1

             30 September 2015 at 8:13 pm

             Kids – bus works fine.
             Sick – bus still works fine. If you’re really concerned – grab a taxi.
             Lug something home? – Quaxxing.

             nuff said.
             • marty mars …

               30 September 2015 at 8:26 pm

               is this what you do?
               • Draco T Bastard …

                 30 September 2015 at 8:51 pm

                 I bike most of the time, use train or bus else-wise.

                 And, no, I don’t own a car.
                 • Ad …

                   1 October 2015 at 10:20 am

                   I love good cars. I am due for another good one.

                   If Auckland ever gets to 33% public transport use I will eat my Florsheims with Worcester Sauce. That’s 2/3 of people stuck doing the usual thing.

                   Anyone who think getting themselves, parents or children to hospital, school sport, or anything other than commuting by public transport is bonkers or outrageously poor. Cars rule New Zealand cities, because that’s how they’ve been designed for sixty years.

                   I support the effort towards public transport, especially in Auckland. And I’ll pay taxes and rates for it gladly. For other people.
                   • Draco T Bastard …

                     1 October 2015 at 11:04 am

                     If Auckland ever gets to 33% public transport use I will eat my Florsheims with Worcester Sauce.

                     We’ll get there. Either through design or forced to through resource limitations as Peak Oil forces the elimination of personal car ownership and use.

                     Anyone who think getting themselves, parents or children to hospital, school sport, or anything other than commuting by public transport is bonkers or outrageously poor.

                     Or know what they’re talking about having done it or know people who have done it. Really, getting to hospital by bus is far easier than using a car.

                     Cars rule New Zealand cities, because that’s how they’ve been designed for sixty years.

                     Yep, they have been. I suspect the councillors over the years have given in to the lobbying by the oil/car companies to build for cars rather than building public transport as building for cars would maximise their profit while building public transport would minimise it. The plans were always there for public transport but it never got built.

                     Another great example of how the profit motive fucks things up rather than bringing about the best result for the community.
         • marty mars 4.1.1.1.2

           30 September 2015 at 8:14 pm

           Do you own a car Draco, or use someone else’s or get a ride with someone that owns one?

           If not then I say congratulations. We own one, in the country – no buses here to take, but I am trying to bike more and more – with no cycle lanes or even verge it is edgy but the lack of cars on the road in the country makes up for the moments of terror as the milk tanker or campervan zip by. And it is coming up to loopytime…
           • Thom Pietersen 4.1.1.1.2.1

             1 October 2015 at 12:47 am

             Ohh – socialism from the space of the country…

             Tell us more how to live Marty.
             • marty mars …

               1 October 2015 at 8:07 am

               simply
               • Thom Pietersen …

                 1 October 2015 at 1:57 pm

                 And for us slaves in the cities?
         • weston 4.1.1.1.3

           30 September 2015 at 8:20 pm

           there is the security blanket factor its not all about fuel and convenience a car insulates you from the world keeps you snug in your own little box gives you all sorts of options that you dont get in a public bus For someone like myself for example it would be an ordeal using public transport because im just not used to the weirdness of sitting next to someone and going somewhere but you musnt say anything to them or make eyecontact sorry just find it too strange plus i have two jack russells and in nz thanks to our backwardness of course we cant take them on public transport
           • BLiP 4.1.1.1.3.1

             1 October 2015 at 3:10 am

             ‘

             Feeling more secure in a car is to deny reality. There are far less people injured or killed travelling in a bus than in a car. Other than routes to and distance from final destination, I’m not sure what options are available to car drivers but not bus passengers. If insulating yourself from the world is your thing, plug in some earphones or get lost in your cell-phone internet browser. FYI, making eye-contact with or talking to someone you are sitting next to on a bus is actually allowed. Try it sometime. You’d be amazed at the range of people you will meet and you might even make new friends, particularly if you are a regular passenger. And, true: not being allowed to take my dog on the bus is a nuisance sometimes, not very often because there’s no need to take her everywhere I go. Her job’s at home.
             • Ad …

               1 October 2015 at 10:23 am

               It will take huge leaps in service improvement to prize the non-public transport user out of their car.

               – Wi-Fi needs to be permanent in every bus and train and station
               – Every single train needs to turn up on time
               – Not a single piece of chewing gum should be left on any bus or train at the end of each day
               – There should be no rude people
               – It should be really cheap

               Now, of course, none of the above you can get in a private car at all.

               Double standards apply. The world of transport choices is not fair. Boo hoo.
         • The Fairy Godmother 4.1.1.1.4

           30 September 2015 at 8:34 pm

           +1. My preferred method of getting into central Auckland is always the train. They come pretty frequently, a nice relaxing ride and no stress about sitting in slow traffic on the southern motorway or parking.
           • Ad 4.1.1.1.4.1

             1 October 2015 at 10:24 am

             Better now that they are electric and smooth.

             That’s the service level jump required.

             The HOP Card was another.

             There are more to come.
   • Bill 4.2

     30 September 2015 at 7:44 pm

     So why emulate a car? It looks like some heavy pushing if/when the battery runs out.

     Gimme an electric trike or a bike any time. As fast, better for you if you peddle, probably a longer range and much more use on hills or even off-road. For anyone not wanting to be exposed to the elements, there are always those ‘low sit back things’ that look like pods on wheels.
     • millsy 4.2.1

       30 September 2015 at 7:55 pm

       These things have a range of about 30-40k’s, and you wouldnt expect to go huge distances, just down to the shops, doctor’s etc.
5. millsy 5

   30 September 2015 at 7:23 pm

   http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/west-coast/72521984/closed-westport-rest-home-farewelled

   Yet another casualty in the government’s war on publicly owned stuff.

   No doubt the WCDHB was ordered by the government to close down its rest homes because of ‘crowding out’ issues.
   • Bill 5.1

     30 September 2015 at 7:49 pm

     Fcking insane! All aged care should be state provided…an integral part of a welfare system Get the profit driven private owners/operators completely out of it I say.
6. Draco T Bastard 6

   30 September 2015 at 7:24 pm

   ‘Unscrupulous employers’ capitalise on unpaid work trials and internships, law professor warns

   “The Fair Work Ombudsman has identified some unscrupulous employers will have a trial that might be one day for testing whether someone can work in a cafe, but then they do this at infinitum in relation to a whole range of people,” she said.

   “They can then have a rolling range of free work and that is certainly inappropriate.

   I wonder how many NZ employers are doing this? You can pretty much guarantee that some will be.
7. millsy 7

   30 September 2015 at 7:27 pm

   http://www.citylab.com/housing/2015/09/the-power-of-public-housing/406705/

   US centric article, but it points out that public housing helped a hell of a lot of people, just like our state housing system.

   I fail to understand how expecting people to spend >70% of their income in rent on a shithold is somehow ‘good’. Yet that is what people are expecting.
8. One Anonymous Bloke 8

   30 September 2015 at 7:49 pm

   Memo to Judith Collins.

   Jan Logie’s criticisms of your behaviour are not a personal attack.

   Either you don’t know the difference or you do, and are lying about it. Neither is a good look.
9. marty mars 9

   30 September 2015 at 8:25 pm

   I feel sad for the panda’s being used without any consideration for them as living entities deserving respect. Same with the other ‘zoo’ animals of course – entertainment for rotting masses.
10. Tautoko Mangō Mata 10

    30 September 2015 at 8:33 pm

    If the TPPA is signed in Atlanta, there is another stumbling block (I hope) in the form of the US congress.

    ” an agreement announced at the end of the ministerial meetings could not reach Congress until Feb. 1, 2016, at the very earliest. Trade expert Lori Wallach of Public Citizen puts the earliest possible date at Feb. 15.”

    “Without a liberated John Boehner around to partner with Democrats, the task of shepherding through a trade agreement disliked by conservatives becomes difficult.”

    “Conservatives disfavored trade promotion authority for a variety of reasons, the biggest being that it gave Obama expanded powers. But there’s an under-the-radar issue here: immigration. Far-right conservatives believe the deal will bring a flood of foreign workers into the U.S. and override federal immigration laws.”

    http://www.salon.com/2015/09/29/the_unexpected_upshot_of_john_boehners_ouster_the_trans_pacific_partnership_is_in_danger/
11. Anne 11

    30 September 2015 at 8:58 pm

    I don’t always agree with Chris Trotter but this post is a clever analysis and, imo, right on the mark.

    http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2015/09/30/investigating-the-democratic-sausage-ika-seafood-bar-grills-table-talk-no-6-one-year-on-from-dirty-politics-what-has-changed/
    • ianmac 11.1

      30 September 2015 at 10:15 pm

      What a juicy Democratic sausage but we don’t want to know its contents- do we?
12. Pat 12

    30 September 2015 at 11:44 pm

    http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/sep/30/how-the-banks-ignored-lessons-of-crash

    anyone for seconds?
13. joe90 13

    1 October 2015 at 12:34 am

    Terrorist barred from entering Australia.

    http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/us-antiabortion-campaigner-troy-newman-barred-from-entering-australia-20150930-gjy6a5.html
14. NZJester 14

    1 October 2015 at 2:31 am

    So what do you all think about the slap on the hand with a wet bus ticket that Mike Hosking got over the 4 upheld BSA complaints about his verbal attack on the waitress at the center of the Ponytailgate scandal?
    His Final Word segments at the end of Seven Sharp are mostly National Party cheerleader pieces. They are nearly always extremely biased and should not be allowed on a public broadcaster without someone on the left getting equal air time.
    They think the publication of their decision is sufficient.
    I think he should be made to apologize on air to her in one of those end segments!
    • Gangnam Style 14.1

      1 October 2015 at 5:30 am

      “I think he should be made to apologize on air to her in one of those end segments!” – absolutely, otherwise the BSA decision is quite meaningless.
15. Rodel 15

    1 October 2015 at 8:58 am

    ‘humorous’ – can’t edit.
16. Morrissey 16

    1 October 2015 at 11:50 am

    Has the Sensible Sentencing Trust
    come out in support of Stuart Wilton?

    And if not, why not?

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/hutt-valley/72567955/stuart-graham-wilton-pleads-guilty-to-matthew-stevens-murder-in-hutt-valley
17. Phil 17

    1 October 2015 at 5:22 pm

    Your image contains an error. The corrected image reads as follows…

    Priorities
    John Key: Flags and Pandas
    Andrew Little: Knife-proof backpack
    • McFlock 17.1

      1 October 2015 at 5:32 pm

      gotta keep that meme going, the Labour caucus are looking a bit too aligned and organised these days for tory piece of mind, eh…

      Meanwhile, how’s Judith behaving, lately? Gerry happy at being thrown under the panda by key? Mr Fixit thinking of fixing a caucus vote, you reckon?

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