Key “concedes” Mt Roskill by election

Written By: - Date published: 6:39 am, December 2nd, 2016 - 21 comments
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Good of JK to effectively concede the Mt Roskill by election – John Key expecting National candidate Parmjeet Parmar to lose Mt Roskill by-election

“Oh, look the expectations would be that we would lose and that’s because we’re the underdog and because no incumbent government has won a seat that they don’t hold.”

Why is Key giving up so easy? The seat should have been winnable for the Nats.

National is painting the electorate as a safe strong Labour seat, but while Phil Goff held it for 35 years – the last election results showed while he won the candidate vote – the party vote actually went in National’s favour.

The other point to note in this article is that it gently (too gently) calls Key on one of his typical lies.

John Key will not be attending Parmjeet Parmar’s Mt Roskill by-election party. Despite campaigning with her on Thursday and Friday, he won’t be seeing it through to the end.

“I don’t go to any of the by-election ones. I haven’t historically and I won’t be going whether we win lose or draw.”

But he did attend parties where it seemed he thought his candidate had a chance.

The Prime Minister showed up to Jami-Lee Ross’ victory party after his 2011 Botany by-election win.

Mr Key also attended Hekia Parata’s party at the Mana by-election in 2010 – which she narrowly lost.

So much for “I don’t go to any of the by-election ones.”

https://twitter.com/grantrobertson1/status/804197776456200192

Update –

https://twitter.com/PhilTwyford/status/804441235058327552

21 comments on “Key “concedes” Mt Roskill by election ”

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  1. Incognito 1
    2 December 2016 at 7:41 am

    This is typical john Key speak; it is aimed at people who might vote for Wood if they vote at all. If these potential Wood-voters believe their preferred candidate is high & dry they may just not bother to vote because others will. It is very cunning election strategy and one of the oldest tricks in the book. People need to vote en masse and ignore political soothsayers, pundits, and other masters of trickery and manipulation.

  2. Muttonbird 2
    2 December 2016 at 8:10 am

    He betrays his desperation when he’s forced to turn the by-election result into one concerning Andrew Little’s future.

    • Anne 2.1
      2 December 2016 at 8:46 am

      From what I’ve heard, there has been some dirty political stuff from the Parmar camp going down behind the scenes. I don’t know the precise nature of it, but its possible that legal action is being considered. If that should prove to be the case, then it might explain Johnny boy’s sudden desire to distance himself as far as possible from his candidate’s campaign.

      • Muttonbird 2.1.1
        2 December 2016 at 8:54 am

        I saw her with a group of Nat supporters swinging signs and disrupting traffic on the corner of Mt Eden and Mt Albert on Wednesday afternoon. She looked bored.

        • WILD KATIPO 2.1.1.1
          2 December 2016 at 10:52 am

          And were they bitterly slagging off ‘ Woody ‘ and looking / acting like this moronic lot?

          • swordfish 2.1.1.1.1
            2 December 2016 at 5:11 pm

            Actually, that was one of my (and my older brother’s) favourite Python sketches when it first hit NZ TV screens way back in mid 75.

            Along with the sketch where Eric Idle, the butcher, is Alternately Rude and Polite to an Upper Middle Class customer (and one or two others – Hitler and Mussolini holed up in the quaint Somerset seaside town of Minehead in the late 1960s (and trying to make political comebacks in the Minehead By-Election – very topical), John Cleese as Brian Equalor, a man who outrageously insults others, while feeling traumatised at the mildest of ripostes from his victims – reminds me of one or two relatively smug, precious Stewie Griffin-types here. Particularly those obsessed with CV ).

        • wellfedweta 2.1.1.2
          2 December 2016 at 3:13 pm

          I saw a photo of the Labour Party candidate’s van parked illegally in a disabled carpark. So what? Unsubstantiated anecdotes about dirty politics and traffic disruption…

          • Muttonbird 2.1.1.2.1
            2 December 2016 at 3:15 pm

            Is it possible the driver was disabled? But then I’m sure you checked for the card on the dashboard.

            • wellfedweta 2.1.1.2.1.1
              2 December 2016 at 3:24 pm

              My point was not to have a go at Michael Wood (who is a thoroughly nice bloke and my mum will be voting for – I think). My point was that these are pointless gripes are silly – particularly Annes ‘From what I’ve heard’.

  3. millsy 3
    2 December 2016 at 9:40 am

    National never had a hope in this one. It doesn’t help that their candidate is already in Parliament, so one would think that the voters wouldnt see the point in voting for someone that is already in Parliament.

    I think parties need to do what they do in Europe – seperate list candidates from seat candidates.

  4. tc 4
    2 December 2016 at 10:02 am

    Time for an updated list from blip

  5. Exile 5
    2 December 2016 at 12:54 pm

    I struggle a fair bit with people that choose to se things through lenses that suit a very narrow reality.
    John Key will of course paint this as a Andrew Little issue, he is a politician. e knows that Labour is his archenemy and to sow the seeds of doubt about our leader is natural and not something we wouldn’t have done if the roles were reversed.

    Key knows very well that national won the party vote but his main concern is national, portraying them as the party of choice. Should they loose he will shrug it off, saying we ran a good campaign but this is a Labour ward. Should they win he will portray this as a referendum on Andrew Little. Saying the man manages to loose eve the safest of Labour wards and that he has o legitimacy as a opposition leader. That he is a lame duck that cant win the next election.
    Thats politics.

    Also for thosethat hear that National has been playing dirty, instead of insinuating, spill out what has been done and where and how.
    Rumour mongering is something I cant stand. I have been involved here, canvassed for labour andI havent seen o heard anything that talks or looks like dirty politics. Not one thing.

    • Muttonbird 5.1
      2 December 2016 at 3:38 pm

      Equally, it is natural for us commenters to criticise politicians’ integrity and highlight the spin they use to minimise the opposition’s success and dismiss their own failures as Key has done.
      That’s politics.

      I’m not sure why you want to stop people being allowed to do that.

    • Anne 5.2
      2 December 2016 at 4:10 pm

      I would wait a little before you cast aspersions.

  6. Thinkerr 6
    2 December 2016 at 7:42 pm

    Logically, those who gave their party vote to National but felt moved to give their person-vote to Goff should now be ‘free’ to align the candidate to their political philosophy.

    And, we are told that a vote for National will give the party itself a majority in the house, so people who like what National are doing and want more of it would surely want to vote Parmar.

    There might be a few who still want to ‘…have a bob each way’, but based solely on the above information, Key should have no need to concede the by-election so soon before counting day.

    There must be other Nat research that’s indicating a substantial swing to Labour and the way we’re all being prepared for it it must surely be significant?

  7. Murray Simmonds 7
    3 December 2016 at 8:22 am

    ” . . . and because no incumbent government has won a seat that they don’t hold . . ”

    ” . . . BECAUSE . . . ” ?????

    That’s not the CAUSE of “. . . the reason why . . .” you fool. That’s a SYMPTOM of “. . . the reason why . . . “.

    Bloody Hell!. The country is run by an idiot who doesn’t even understand “cause and effect”!

    (Incidentally, his constant belittling of the “Little” Party (not to mention the Greens”) during ‘Question Time” in Parliament is another facet of the same set of personal deficiencies that he exhibits.)

    A LITTLE man with a LITTLE mind and no idea of what it feels like to be intelligent and speak/act accordingly.

    (Sorry).

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