More Nat ACT conflict

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1. Carolyn_nth 1

   25 August 2017 at 8:38 am

   Seymour is sounding increasingly desperate to me. This election has been marked by some arrogant white men, seeing the end of the lads and shock jock era that gained in dominance under John Key’s influence.

   They may be contemplating the void of loss of influence, and are going all negative, and attention-getting aggro.
   • Bearded Git 1.1

     25 August 2017 at 8:52 am

     But Seymour is right about the “broken housing market” being the issue that will bring Bill down.

     This has a sub-plot concerning the ridiculously high level of immigration National has encouraged that nobody is talking about in the campaign.
     • Muttonbird 1.1.1

       25 August 2017 at 9:03 am

       Yep, no one will go near it even though the problem is staring us all in the face across the international education industry, the job market, the housing market and the overcrowded hospitals.
       • Bearded Git 1.1.1.1

         25 August 2017 at 9:05 am

         Agreed…except perhaps you are forgetting Winston….
     • red-blooded 1.1.2

       25 August 2017 at 9:21 am

       Actually, Labour has talked about this and has a policy to constrain immigration while the housing market is so tight. Remember all the criticism and allegations of racism?
   • KJT 1.2

     25 August 2017 at 8:59 am

     What’s with inherited wealth and a lack of maturity?

     Good argument for a 100% inheritance tax, for millionaires?
2. Muttonbird 2

   25 August 2017 at 8:45 am

   This is just petulant foot-stamping by a frightened toddler (Seymour), and the behaviour is quietly admonished but secretly sanctioned by the parent (English) who likes that their boy is turning heads.

   Seymour is petrified because of this:

   http://www.electionresults.govt.nz/electionresults_2014/electorate-12.html

   At 16000 to 11700 in 2014, Seymour really isn’t that safe from the bag of flour despite the dirty deal. Especially after the rise of Labour.

   Complicating matters for the hologram is John Key’s absence whose authority over the Epsom elite was far greater than Wellington/Southland man, Bingles.

   Also, as Bomber points out, Asian voters (who are increasing in the electorate) do not like Seymour’s student libertarianism, especially his personal crusade for legal suicide.

   When a toddler is scared they lash out, and a weak parent will let them get away with it.
   • Bearded Git 2.1

     25 August 2017 at 8:55 am

     Good point Muttonbird. It might be time for the Greens to withdraw their candidiate in Epson. That would give the MOU a boost.
     • Muttonbird 2.1.1

       25 August 2017 at 9:00 am

       I see what you’re doing there. 🙂

       Seriously though, it would be very bold and risky but what if both The Greens and Labour withdrew and asked their voters to vote for the bag of flour?

       Too crazy really, but just thinking out loud…
3. Greg 3

   25 August 2017 at 9:18 am

   Sounds like nact us no longer able to provide stability how can they trusted with government when they are fighting amongst themselves the only alternative is jacinda
4. DoublePlusGood 4

   25 August 2017 at 9:52 am

   Nah, it’s all just carefully stage managed – Seymour criticises the government, but in such a way as to convey the impression that National are sensible centrists compared to ACT’s approach. Seymour’s criticism of National works out for both parties. They know what they’re up to.
   • Muttonbird 4.1

     25 August 2017 at 9:58 am

     Fully agree. Seymour’s initial outburst was unscripted but the rest has been strategised by the ninth floor.
5. marty mars 5

   25 August 2017 at 10:03 am

   now winnie – release the emails and seymour will do the poking so he can become relevant. Bill resigns, paula in, gnat disarray, left elected with record seats, lab/green govt, sweet.
   • Muttonbird 5.1

     25 August 2017 at 11:04 am

     Where is Pulya Benefit, anyway? Door knocking, I suppose.
     • Adrian 5.1.1

       25 August 2017 at 11:47 am

       She was ,up until she came to a pie shop.
       • Wensleydale 5.1.1.1

         25 August 2017 at 12:08 pm

         Shoe shop, mate. She’s been quite open about her pathological fetish for expensive footwear. Although, she’ll probably pop in for a pie or two on the way home. She might even buy several for Brownlee.
       • marty mars 5.1.1.2

         25 August 2017 at 12:18 pm

         Stick to what she does not what she looks like eh Adrian – don’t let yourself down. Same to you Wensleydale.
         • Adrian 5.1.1.2.1

           25 August 2017 at 2:50 pm

           Get over yourself, she’s an appalling example to people trying to get themselves healthier and fitter. But then, she’s an appalling example to anyone really.
           • marty mars 5.1.1.2.1.1

             25 August 2017 at 2:55 pm

             nah you’re a wanker
6. Enough is Enough 6

   25 August 2017 at 10:51 am

   Seymour knows his days are numbered.

   He will limp back into parliament but he won’t be in government.

   NZ First decides who actually wins this election, and one thing is certain. Winston will not be going in any government that includes ACT.

   I think there is 42.1% chance he will go with National, but that will be do so only on the basis there are no other parties.
   • Hongi Ika 6.1

     25 August 2017 at 5:49 pm

     Looking more and more like a Labour/NZF Coalition every day especially with the Jysteria happening with the Election of Jacinda Adhern as Labour Leader many women thinks she’s just the ducks nuts.

     As for the Elf See Less in the Little Yellow Party I think people have had enough of the ACT. I can see him throwing his toys out of the cot coming up to Election Day especially if the Opposition get under his skin ?
7. WILD KATIPO 7

   25 August 2017 at 11:32 am

   Rimmer is Dunne.
8. Tracey 8

   25 August 2017 at 4:05 pm

   Agree that this will not result in coalition at loggerheads headlines….
   • WILD KATIPO 8.1

     25 August 2017 at 7:27 pm

     Interesting the GSCB cant admit they acted illegally in spying on Batato and co , along with Dotcom and 88 other NZ residents / citizens…because it could compromise ‘ national security ‘…

     And yet in the Herald today that was exactly what was under scrutiny. Turns out the ‘ illegality’ is deeper than when first perused…

     And I recall , that one of the only times I agreed with Rimmer was when he spoke out against excessive GSCB surveillance of New Zealanders etc…

     Lets hope the National party Dirty Politics brigade keep their noses clean this election or I shall expect to hear more from our dear friend Mr Rimmer …
     • Tracey 8.1.1

       26 August 2017 at 3:12 pm

       And apparently Gerry can tell us the SAS is coming home from training in Tonga when operations are usualky secret.

       Still Turei was naught when 23. That is the importabt stuff.
9. Incognito 9

   25 August 2017 at 9:54 pm

   Seymour’s electorate is Epsom and technically Mount Eden Prison is in his electorate so I can see why his constituents are angry about a broken housing market and rising crime not to mention all those pesky private school kids during the day littering their leafy streets. If I were Seymour I’d make it a non-negotiable policy to build a wall around Epsom paid for by immigrants when they arrive at Auckland International Airport. Seymour is no more than lipstick on a hologram.
10. Tracey 10

    26 August 2017 at 3:13 pm

    Is Seymour trying to shift voters from right of Nats to ACT? He seems quite rabid which made me wonder if the potential drift from Nats might not just be from soft middle voters?

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