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[Some stray text in your name field Jenny. Might want to check it – MS]
‘For Sama’
See the documentary they don’t want you to see.
New Zealand International Film festival, Auckland, Thursday August 1, 8.45pm
https://www.nziff.co.nz/2019/auckland/ticketing/buying-tickets/
A must see first person account of living under the Assad regime's genocidal hail of bombs.
https://www.indiewire.com/2019/07/for-sama-review-documentary-aleppo-1202161309/
A more nuanced view by Reuters back in 2013 when radical Islamists took over eastern Aleppo
"The moderates are losing ground. In many parts of rebel-held Aleppo, the red, black and green revolutionary flag which represents more moderate elements has been replaced with the black Islamic flag. Small shops selling black headbands, conservative clothing and black balaclavas have popped up around the city and their business is booming."
In other words , from 2013 on , there were no moderate rebels in eastern Aleppo .
Or are you saying Al Nusra and the brutal sharia law courts they set up was a desirable model for the rest of Syria?
The full article was written before the western media got their shit together on how it was all meant to play out and what their talking points were meant to be
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-rebels-islamists-specialreport/special-report-syrias-islamists-seize-control-as-moderates-dither-idUSBRE95I0BC20130619
The mother of "Sama" came to Aleppo from outside. When interviewed on radio recently , she said she had no family in Aleppo, so they lived in the makeshift hospital.She came from outside to wage jihad against the secular govt.
And in 2016 this report from Open Democracy
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/what-russia-and-rest-of-us-are-doing-in-syria/
Things hadn't got any better
Here are the words of Colonel Stephen Warren in April 2016:
“It's primarily al-Nusra who holds Aleppo, and of course, al-Nusra is not part of the cessation of hostilities.”
He was the spokesman for the US anti-ISIS military campaign in Iraq and Syria.
Yes …. and Jenny seems reluctant to admit that her 'good guys' have done the worst war crime / genocidal hail of bombs. …. In either Syria or Iraq.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZRRIXH4GxI&t=650s
And she has not apologized …. or retracted, her loony tunes christchurch / jo cox Assad conspiracy theories
Now, I've stuck up for Andrew Little before …. but he has dropped the ball on this ,,, the john key / Nact security services
Instead of sticking up for a failure ,,,, why can he not admit mistakes were made regarding 'security' ,,,, and we are working on fixing them. 14mins 10sec
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQkNKSEdKUNpxrj10qGE2mB1w5cSH3ohqFgXq-dKH7-MpsWBezUpQ
A variation of the three monkeys …. Speak evil ….. while refusing to see or hear it.
There's an entire Royal Commission occurring right now on this question so there's every reason for the Minister to wait until the proposals from that emerge.
That's true Ad …. which is why I would not have expected Andrew Little to deny their was a problem with where the security services were directing their resources.
He stuck his stick in the mud … before the review ….
Unlike you … some of the Muslim victims are offended and hurt by such denials and statements …. did you not watch the video and the people interviewed in it?.
I make it a double knock-on between you and Andy L
Putting words in my mouth again reason?
I have never claimed that the US are the "good guys" in Syria. And long before you ever mentioned it I have condemned the slaughter in Raqqa by US and coalition air forces. A slaughter, I might add, that you and other Assad apologists cheered on and encouraged by smearing the whole Syrian people in revolt against the Assad regime as head choppers and terrorists.
Long before the Christchurch massacre which occurred on the anniversary of the start of the Syrian revolution.
Long before this fascist atrocity I have argued that the Liberal Left's support for Assad style fascism and genocide in Syria would strengthen and embolden fascists globally.
This is a view I still hold.
Sill telling lies Jenny …. and putting words in peoples mouths.
The problem I have with jennys Ergot infected bread-crumbs regarding Christchurch / Assad … Is she is leading away from the truth.
Out of the 100 odd words and phrases the Christchurch white subpremacist had written on his murder tools ……………… Not even a single one mentioned Assad…..
Same with the thousands of words and testimony at Jo Cox murder trial ……… Zero, zilch, nada, nothing.
To quote some respected people about Jenny….
Or more to the point …
Tell us how you went from Israel into Syria, Jenny …. tell us about the hard right Apartheid state of Israel …. and their role in attacking Syria.
Tell us something real for a change.
I entered Syria from Turkey. Coming from Adana in Southern Turkey I went to the coastal city of Latakia in North West Syria, I spent most of time in Latakia in the al-Ramel Palestinian refugee camp on the outskirts of the city.
The al-Ramel refugee camp was one of the first, if not the first, civilian area to be attacked by heavy weapons by the Assad regime. In this case gun boats. But there were also straffing runs on the camp by government fighter jets. The attack also included tanks and government snipers. In scenes reminiscent of Pinochet's Chile 5,000 refugees were herded into the Latakia football stadium. From there a number were 'disappeared' into government custody the rest were driven from the city to become refugees, a second time.
How do I know this? October 2010 I was in al-Ramel and got to know it well. On returning to NZ, Palestinian friends I had made in the camp and who I trusted were able to give me first hand and near real time video footage of these attacks as they occurred.
I can personally vouch for the fact that the refugees would have been and were completely unarmed and defenceless in the face of this brutal government assault.
Is that real enough for you reason?
And what was the refugees' crime?
Siding with the anti-regime protests in the city.
So reason, apart from Right Wing commentator Queen Of Thorns, where do you get your information, Stand up comic Jimmy Dore perhaps? Right Wing conspiracy theorist Alex Jones maybe? Tea Party founder Ron Paul?
All of this motely grab bag of self appointed experts on Syria have been quoted in these pages at various times by people such as yourself.
Personally I prefer first hand eye witness accounts from people I have met and know.
[Jenny can you change your name please. You have too many words there … MS]
There is something missing with the issues at Ihumatao..
This site was chosen by the early main migration peoples because it was clearly one of the best living environments around – good soils, easy access, good climate, nice places to build houses, etc.
Those factors apply today too. It is still a good place for people to live for a whole bunch of similar reasons. In addition, peoples are still migrating to the same place.
Nothing has changed has it.
In this light there is a strong argument that the protestors should allow more migrating peoples to live next to them just like they did, for the exact same reasons they did, in exactly similar circumstances as theirs were.
It is a good place for peoples to live. Locking this activity away from the site may look rather selfish and short-sighted in the future and it may be that these realities have been forgotten in the heat of the current storm..
It is a good place to live and we should live there again – just like we did in the past (subject to appropriate acknowledgement and protection for our history).
I was speaking last evening to a young fellow who is off today to do his bit as a protester at Ihumātao. Now, putting aside his take on the politics of it (he had a rather ageist view of the Iwi elders, amongst other potential objections) the meta I took away from listening to him was how much his generation has a yearning for change that the tools a civic society atomised by neoliberalism and social media might not be able to deliver. These days there is little understanding of the sort of civic societies that need to exist to create the circumstances mass movements can bring about change He hoped (rather than expected) that Ihumātao would be his generations "Bastion Point" or "land march" moment. Similar inchoate hopes and desires for peaceful systemic change comes from movement like climate rebellion and earlier from the occupy movement, and IMHO it isn't limited to young people.
I don't think it too long a bow to draw to see this desire for change in a world where the current norm of extreme capitalism is in crisis and neoliberalism has systematically dismantled pathways of civic change the seeds of frustration that have given rise to right wing populism – people want change, and they don't care what side of the political spectrum it comes from. The political climate may be starting to change in NZ to be more in line with overseas trends.
Sure, and I agree with that sentiment. It may be that Ihumatao takes such a place in our society, as a point of change. However, that sentiment sits alongside the points I make above, not in place of.
I think your first point (at 2) is valid, but more for reasons you don't mention. On TDB Bryan Bruce refers to three iwi groups involved with the locality, yet neither he nor anyone else explores the history of that. If the treaty settlement only identified one of those as mana whenua (as seems to be the case), perhaps there was a miscarriage of natural justice which originated the stand-off.
Govt ministers keep saying the situation hinges on mana whenua without explaining why. Tacitly conceding tradition & precedent must prevail over protest is how that seems to me.
Sanctuary's description of `inchoate hopes' driving the protest momentum seems apt. If the system is discriminating against the other stakeholders, everyone needs to spit the dummy & say so! Protestors can't win on inchoate hopes & numbers, they must produce a rational basis for their case. Still no sign of the media reporting any such thing, nor has anyone here done so.
"Protestors can't win on inchoate hopes & numbers, they must produce a rational basis for their case."
Indeed they can….especially if all that is required is ‘change’ and the backing down of the elite
Well, I predict they won't. Unless they produce a credible rationale which the govt can use. Cluelessness has never been an effective political strategy.
The government will back down. The question is by how much.
I had originally thought completely, but now I suspect not. Maybe half.
The government won’t want to give the SOUL a complete win over Te Kawerau a Maki. Much too much of a dangerous precedent.
So maybe half into a public reserve attached to the current reserve, a quarter for Te Kawerau a Maki houses (as is already agreed) and a quarter for Fletcher houses. Fletchers sells the half for $40 million, and also builds the iwi houses.
A deal like that would have much less impact on other treaty settlements. That will be a huge issue for the government.
That does seem a reasonable prescription for a compromise solution that works as win/win all round the table. If the Maori MPs see it that way, perhaps consensus can displace the entrenched inter-iwi rivalries….
That seems reasonable Wayne.
Christ! Schedule me some counselling will ya! "I tend to agree with you" @Wayne. I don't 'spose you could get me a gig on the Nayshun could ya (as a member of the commentariat going forward). I'm nearing the Gold Card and the belt has been extended an extra notch. I'd even wear a leisure suit if makeup deemed it necessary. Better still, Mrs OwT (Mother) wouldn't mind a bit.
The only thing SOUL could do is depose Te Warena Taua as the primary elder on the marae, and then call the deal off. And then no one gets anything.
The deal has more or less been called off now anyway. Impossible for a housing development to go ahead from this point.
I think it will go ahead pretty much as written now, just with slightly fewer houses, and tens of millions of taxpayer compensation to Fletchers.
I would think Winston would have to agree to it and I can't see that happening
'They 'dont need to produce any rationale for the government ….thats the governments job and the rationale is forJoe publics consumption
Perhaps I'm less confident that the govt is capable of pulling that rabbit out of their hat than you are, huh? Normally in negotiations & diplomacy the various sides outline the basis of their position using a rationale to do so.
Protest movements that merely adopt an emotional stance therefore put themselves at a disadvantage. Omission of reasoning leaves a gaping hole where the rational basis of their political stand ought to be.
lol…im not confident about the governments abilities at all, its simply a fact that the problem is theirs….you appear confused by comparing this to a diplomatic negotiation…it is anything but
Well, I'm speaking from experience of having been in that type of situation intensively for several years. Do you have any actual personal track record of political experience?
Beats me why you think these multi-party roundtable discussions don't incorporate negotiation and diplomacy. In my experience, those two elements constituted the fabric of the interactions.
lol…everyone has a track record of political experience….your claimed "multi party roundtable discussions" experience may be the cause of your confusion for that is not what is being demanded nor supplied.
I'm not confused about the situation, and the media has reported the multi-party roundtable discussion the coalition govt organised – someone posted the link here several days ago. Maybe you didn't see that?
Any talks…once they happen, will be bipartisan…they can dress it up any way they like
I was referring to the one they had before the PM announced her change of stance. I was not referring to any hypothetical future.
Of course you were
Just to clarify, then, I am assuming they will replicate the format they used if they organise another…
At this point I'm convinced that we don't have a housing crisis, it's an affordability issue. The absolute last thing we should be doing is building more housing that we do not need.
When the bubble pops the empty/run down/half built houses next to sacred land will be an even bigger insult than losing it in the first place.
… is but a temporary issue in the scheme of the last 700 years of human migration to these shores and the next 700 years of human migration, particularly the next 100 years when NZs population is going to rise like a water table to similar densities as other long-migrated places such as the UK and Japan…..
The Big Picture
The erasing of culture is at the root of this. Not great to make the same mistakes all over again.
The point isn't being made. That a culture that got here first has sites of archaeology that need to be protected. Sure, giving the isthmus is going to be the site of first colonisation by Maori, it's going to need some protection from land demand for mansions with sea views… …or remove all European colonisation. Can't have it one way not other.
https://soundcloud.com/pete-dnanz/truth
That misses the point entirely.
People have been arriving in aotearoa for 700 years. They continue to arrive today. They will arrive tomorrow. We that are already here need to move over and make room – particularly on those sites which make for good living and home environments.
This is one of the realities that has been forgotten and doesn't seem to be factored into the current arguments. If this particular reality (along with the other realities such as the confiscation etc) is not dealt with then expect it to re-surface again in the future.
There are plenty of good sites not right on top of the first peoples' connection to the land – something which is a very central part of their culture and a part which has been ripped from them.
You echo Ad's stance on Ihumātao when he said Maori should stop being sentimental about it because that place was once used for commercial activity so it should al ways be used for commercial activity. Presumably this also means Maori should stop being sentimental about their taonga, and their identity.
Disgraceful.
+ 1 yep I agree
No I have not said that at all – go re-read and stop being rude and putting words in my mouth
“(subject to appropriate acknowledgement and protection for our history)”
I'm not re-reading colonialist crap. Once was enough.
then shove it all and more up your arse wanker
Will do, racist.
Nope there was nothing racist in there. It was a global comment. You need to learn to read
Let's say you have a nice bach in the Coromandel, you've lived there most of your life and it's been in your family for generations, built by your great grandfather.
There is simply no way you would be "completely fine" with the neighbouring property building high rise apartments housing hundreds of new residents. Embrace them with open arms, like f… you would.
Happening in every city in New Zealand for 160 years.
has happened since manwoman first arrived. will keep happening until manwoman leaves.
It will be a torrid election year but is made worse by the media obsession with "gotcha" moments like the one from the fill-in Breakfast host this morning on TV One, it was a stance I read that also took place yesterday on current issues. In interviewing Winson Peters a claim was repeatedly made that issues being raised over the Ihumātao stand-off and concerns with the welfare of children as provided by Oranga Tamariki indicated grave divisions between the govt and "Maori".
Thankfully Winston pressed on, inspite of the journalist’s bent towards “division” being the primary problem for govt to focus on and resolve, and repeated his statement that they are serious issues and are issues for all NZ and things the govt is working to resolve. The interviewer’s determination to make claims of divisions over and above the issues and convert every opinion, stake or interest to all of "Maoridom" was ridiculous, within that group as with the rest of NZ their is a variety of opinion.
Media should stick to reporting the news not trying to pre-determine and influence what that news. or the outcome, might be.
Not unreasonable to call Oranga Tamariki reviews a Maori issue.
It is a NZ issue in my opinion, that is from personally having to step into the lives of some children who were not "Maori" – we learned very quickly that some people hide things better than others – they are often also those who face less scrutiny of their failures as parents and carers. Not all those "protesting" the land issue are "Maori" either, are you blind?
No, but it mostly is.
Maori are the most deprived people in New Zealand.
https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/populations/maori-health/tatau-kahukura-maori-health-statistics/nga-awe-o-te-hauora-socioeconomic-determinants-health/neighbourhood-deprivation
By strong averages, Maori are:
– the least qualified
– the highest unemployed
– have the least income
– receive the most state income support
– are more likely to be renting
– are more likely to be living in an overcrowded house
https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/populations/maori-health/tatau-kahukura-maori-health-statistics/nga-awe-o-te-hauora-socioeconomic-determinants-health/socioeconomic-indicators
– are by a wee way more likely to self-report racial discrimination
https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/populations/maori-health/tatau-kahukura-maori-health-statistics/nga-awe-o-te-hauora-socioeconomic-determinants-health/racial-discrimination
– have a higher smoking and alcohol abuse rate
– eat poorly and be overweight
– go to the doctor less
https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/populations/maori-health/tatau-kahukura-maori-health-statistics/nga-ratonga-hauora-kua-mahia-health-service-use/primary-health-care
As a result Maori also die faster. In 2013, life expectancy was just 73 years for Māori men and 77.1 years for Māori women. For non-Māori males it was 80.3 years, and for non-Māori females it was 83.9. In other words, inequality between Maori and NZ Europeans contributes to Māori losing seven years of their lives.
And here's the stats on violence against Maori children.
https://nzfvc.org.nz/family-violence-statistics#maori
And in straight wealth you get to the big signals: in 2015, the median NZ European had $114,000 of wealth. The median Māori had just $23,000. That’s a gap of $91,000.
The only leader who was prepared to name this as a whole was Helen Clark, after which Don Brash delivered the Orewa speech which basically denied it all and that any explicit weighting towards Maori was unjust. So she nearly lost the election over it.
And then there's the rate at which Maori are in jail: way above anyone else as a group:
http://archive.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/snapshots-of-nz/yearbook/society/crime/corrections.aspx
When 900 Maori who had been in jail were interviewed, 90% thought structural racism was a factor, but the survey found that most people though greater whanau support, higher incomes, and connected communities would help reduce incarceration rates.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/367940/study-why-do-so-many-maori-end-up-behind-bars
And this gets to the head of all of the above: more Maori children in care have increased since 2013, while Pakeha children in care have declined:
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/108092032/10000-child-removal-orders-in-five-years-is-this-system-working
So when Winston Peters says Maori need to address violence against women and children, he's right, Maori do.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12253867
At some point we will hear from some of the 4 four reviews. Hopefully Maori have some answers as well.
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Why dont they delete you Marty Mars, and send you back to your name sake.
'Us Earthlings' would be far the better off for it.
I am not capitalised I'll thank you to remember
Mostly, well NOT mostly the ones I know and I repeat the real life things I have seen seem, to me, to go unseen. There is some disproportion but that in my opinion once again is reflected in financial circumstances – that does not apply to the "Maori" I know and am also related to. I don't think it is unreasonable to base my opinion on what I know.
Thanks for that extensive backgrounding Ad. Maori have been fighting to get out of the cul de sac that they have been backed into.
And their elders and young ones will have ideas for improvement, as they have been doing for years and achieving success, but the austerity economy and the disconnection of National and RW Labour for the 'strugglers' has meant that fewer opportunities to advance themselves and their standard of living has led to just managing from day to day. Still many shine though, and if government will just get behind each new initiative and ensure it is implemented effectively, and then ensure it keeps going the positive response will spread.
Then a great shake felt over the whole country will be felt as they rise from being stuck in a muddy bog. The rising of every Maori to the full potential of themselves and their hapu with a plan they have chosen to follow and stay with, will give them a positive future which will continue on despite climate change dilemmas – that will be an earthquake which will bring mana to NZ and restore it deservedly, to Maori.
Nobody would dispute your figures Ad. At least I wouldn't……
How would reversing the Fletcher deal make any of that better. But maybe that wasn't your point.
My point was a few life experiences are a stupidly weak truth when any and every other statistical measure points out that you are wrong.
yes Winston is great , does not let them push their agenda . tells them off in no uncertain terms when they being dickheads…. which frankly is most of the time.
ANZ in the headlines once again. Seriously if you are a customer you really should be at least looking at other banks at this point given multiple red flags around this bank in the last two months alone.
An Auckland woman has turned down an offer of $2000 compensation from ANZ because she says she wants a full inquiry into the way the bank treated her.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/114587354/customer-rejects-2000-compensation-from-anz-over-hardship-application
'A declined hardship claim doesn't bring increased scrutiny from collections."
Of course not !The old,reliable 'Chinese Wall' so favoured by financial institutions.
Trust the banks…yeah right!
This one from Westpac shows the importance of businesses and powerful entities keeping a 'human' watch over their customers concerns, not leaving it up to some machine and its algorithms. Get a new rhythm you
s!*ts.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/114572494/westpac-loan-customer-take-my-kiwisaver-and-cant-we-call-it-quits
Can computers cope with us and our priorities appropriately enough?
How to manage your time more effectively (according to machines).
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDbdXTMnOmE
TedTalk on Human organisation cf Computers – blockchain technology – (not just bitcoin tech).
.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/dec/22/bridgewater-associates-ai-artificial-intelligence-management
Did Cambridge Analytica study this vid?
Cambridge University: Can computers understand emotions? Can computers express emotions? Can they feel emotions? The latest video from the University of Cambridge shows how emotions can be used to improve interaction between humans and computers.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whCJ4NLUSB8
Went down country to visit the rellies last week. On Sunday morning I got four litres of milk courtesy of Daisy, the cow who inhabits the paddock next to the house I was staying in.
It is an eye popping revelation to use old fashioned, untreated full cream milk from a happy cow with a name. It is delicious on porridge with a bit of home made honey, I will tell you!
They've been selling milk from the farm just up the road from where I live at the edge of New Plymouth for years apparently – so much so the farmer built a special building with a parking area for customers. And when I lived in Ak my old mate Bill (who sailed out here from California in his yacht in the year of Muldoon, '75) has been heading out of town to get his milk fresh from a farmer for many years too. Never got sick from it.
Are you teasing us DF? One person never got sick from it – that's classic that is of taking a particular and applying it to the general – isn't that faulty generalisation?
If you read what I wrote again you ought to be able to ascertain that I didn't mention any generalisation at all – so I have no idea why you assume so.
I'm disappointed in you DF. You are quick to feign surprise that anyone could find a point of possible error in your pronouncements.
?? I'm surprised, genuinely, that you read into what I wrote something that is not actually there. It's a normal human reaction.
To be fair, Dennis, was there not a subtle implication rather than a direct statement?
Not even slightly. I was merely citing a trend I had noticed over the past 15 years or so, and using personal experience to validate it.
I didn't say I had joined that trend (I haven't) nor did I endorse it. Implications arise in the minds of readers sometimes when they jump to conclusions too quickly, and that appears to have happened in this instance.
As to why folks are trending back towards nature, and away from chemicals, you could argue that common sense is prevailing, eh?
Ewwww!
Good article by Glen Herud about what/why they do all that stuff to milk.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/opinion/114578157/history-holds-simple-solutions-for-modern-problems
Wow! That was very informative and now I know what permeate is.
"Ethiopia’s minister of innovation and technology, Dr Getahun Mekuria, tweeted estimates of the number of trees planted throughout the day. By early evening on Monday, he put the number at 353m."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/29/ethiopia-plants-250m-trees-in-a-day-to-help-tackle-climate-crisis
Now id be somewhat dubious about the number but if true Ethiopia has just completed 1/3 of our 10 year tree planting programme in 1 day…..and probably at little financial cost.
Note to Uncle Shane
Yip we have vast areas of tussock and mountains that could grow massive forests of conifers but oh no let's destroy rural communities and plant good farmland so rich people can fly round the world .
bwaghorn
Good rant. Actually selling individual farms at a profit to that individual farmer, to financiers who amalgamate them for dairy and overstock them, and employ overseas cheap labour has done the greatest harm to rural communities cohesiveness and friendly co-operation and services. Let's not just on the latest emerging gripe from farmers and blame it on the gummint or such.
And individual farmers have somehow enabled attitudes to diminish to the extent that someone can go round shooting animals, burning down buildings and not get stopped by policing until he shot his relation. Would that have been the sort of rural community you are mourning about?
10 to 7 this morning Winston was in the AM studio & gave us quite a performance, did anyone else see it? As acting-PM. I can't claim to have followed all the rapid-fire dialogue but he sure kicked Colmar Brunton's arse all round the park.
I wonder if they really do have a covert agenda, and have carefully designed the framing of their questions to produce a biased result as he implied. That thesis would get traction if a consistent pattern was evident over time. The discrepancy with recent National & Labour private polls is double the margin of error for National, so does seem suspect.
I saw him on Breakfast and likewise he had no patience for the "gotcha" traps the media try to set instead of the "issues" being discussed and them actually listening.
People will look back at this 3 years and be glad their was an old steady hand in the background. The youthful ideological labour greens would have flown to bits otherwise.
That thesis would get traction if a consistent pattern was evident over time.
It's been my observation over a number of years that the CB poll has been consistent in so far as it nearly always gives National a higher percentage rating than its equivalent polling companies – now down to only Reid Research.
Dennis at 7
If that latest Colmar Brunton poll is repeated again when the next poll comes around Labour are in real trouble.
This is clear now because the whole media ‘Newshusb, TV one and Radio NZ “National” are all controlled by the spin doctors of the National Party prbablly by Steven Joyce and John Key.
We warned the new labour NZF Government to replace Clare Curren and put another Channel Seven public affairs channel up to sell the Government policy to the people.
But Clare Curren sabotaged Jacinda and the new Government by not providing Government with their own media platform so the result is now obvious.
Who wins the ‘media’ wins the ‘next Government’, and so far this Government are loosing.
@cleangreen: 43+6 means a Labour/Green government. Rather than "real trouble" it sounds perfect.
I wonder how long it will be before Jacinda realises she is missing out and becomes a stay at home mum ?
Kelvin for PM ?
Q&A last night. Jack Tane asked the right questions of the dreadful Simon Bridges about the Cancer plan. And he pushed Bridges to actually answer which made poor little Simon to get frantic. Jack is the first journalist that I have heard to actually address the issues. Well done Jack.
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/shows/q-and-a
Giles Beckford had his measure on RNZ Checkpoint last night, and bluntly challenged the whiny bullshit from about 4m30 onwards: https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2018706170/simon-bridges-criticises-govt-s-cancer-treatment-spending
Never heard anything like it. Brilliant.
Just quickly, two things in response to that interview:
Yes ianmac, Jack Tame does his homework and skewers subtefuges pulled by slippery politicians
Also on Q&A:
But Jack was trapped by his guest Hooton who let strip a tirade of very negative bilge water and assisted by exGreen Sue Bradford who was just as negative. Nothing but negatives! No one for the Government.
My empathy mode kicked in full this morning when I clicked onto the Herald. I could understand deep feelings of insecurity, loneliness and desperation on seeing Hosking's latest go at Jacinda Ardern. When mum left the room when I was about seven months old I'm sure I felt the same.
Maybe the PM can add issues to do with desertion to the Mental Health basket. When she gets back from 'wandering around the Pacific.' Mike Hosking might be a good case study or used as an expert in the field.
Lol Peter. I make a point of not reading Hoskings. Sounds like he was guilt tripping Jacinda about being a parent and being PM. What a low tactic….
Prison life at Mt Eden.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/95380015/former-inmate-releases-video-of-disturbing-assault-inside-mt-eden-corrections-facility?rm=m
Real mapower shortage in our prisons.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/104927354/prisons-across-the-country-are-short-hundreds-of-staff-corrections-reveals?rm=a
That poor bloke. Fancy having the footage and being able to see the set-up. He can be seen lying and the time is clearly shown. And at the end on the right hand side of the frame it appears someone else is down on the floor.
People have been working to create better conditions in jails, to limit the number of people who go into them, and to work with the inmates so they can control their impulses and to try and instil some understanding of their own life difficulties, so they can feel empathy for themselves instead of trying to be tough all the time. Then they are on the way to be able to have some concern for others.
But the ruling class like to emphasise the failures of the lower classes. If they fail themselves there is a case made for exceptional circumstances.
Let us start with abolishing double bunking, and carefully controlled civilised treatment of prisoners. There must be concern for warders so they are safe but not having thuggish types. It would be hard to find that tough but fair sort.
That incident was in 2013 and Corrections is back to running Mt Eden…
"and carefully controlled civilised treatment of prisoners. "
The real problem (as I see it) is prisoners have far too many rights (and boy do they know them) but care nothing for responsibilities so the first thing I'd do is make prisoners earn their privileges eg you want a TV you earn the privilege of renting a tv by showing compliance and good behavior and if you damage a tv you don't get it back until you've both shown contrition and paid back the cost of the repair
You want something to read same deal, same with the P119s, same with more than two showers a day, same with doing hobbies etc etc
"There must be concern for warders so they are safe but not having thuggish types. It would be hard to find that tough but fair sort."
Increase the Corrections budget so more staff can be hired, improve the working conditions (pay, overtime, rosters etc etc) and give more support (through the courts and media) and you'll get more people applying
Ethics Violations: CDC / Aarhus University
Sounds a bit Brave New World approach to me. And also how people might be when we are discouraged from 'breeding'. Because being really committed and being together as a permanent couple with legal obligations goes with accepting the parental role, when it makes sense to indicate the acceptance of that responsibility publically and legally.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/sunday/audio/2018706096/mandy-len-catron-what-you-lose-when-you-gain-a-spouse
People brought up in the ways of monetising everything as in neo lib, have trouble getting excited about a tree trunk if there is money to be made for someone. The Labour Coalition would have to introduce new legislation to ban exports to keep our unique kauri here I think.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/395522/sculptor-says-art-work-exported-to-china-looks-like-giant-log
Not enough lucrative ‘opportunities’ for MPs in opposition?
National party MPs who (a) left parliament at the last election, (b) left parliament after the last election, or (c) have announced that they will leave parliament at the next election.
1. Barclay*
2. Borrows
3. Foss
4. Foster-Bell
5. Goodhew
6. Lotu-liga
7. McCully
8. Naylor
9. Parata
10. Tisch
11. Williamson
12. English
13. Coleman
14. Joyce
15. Finlayson
16. Korako
17. Scott
18. Adams
19. Guy…
* https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/98382581/how-the-todd-barclay-story-got-here
Well done Drowsy M Kram, 100%
Excellent list you produced.
Yep. Another rat jumps ship. Nathan Guy was full of shit and useless anyway. Maybe Simon just told him to fuck off.
The National Party team will be full of inexperienced novices by 2020. Most of their tallent has already gone. I doubt they could run a Maccas drive through these days.
Mid week Democratic debates kick off with Biden hoping to improve from last time.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/29/opinion/democratic-debate.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
The Chairman, Northland Regional Council, took the casting vote for allowing genetic engineering even though public submissions were 82-1 against.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/the-country/news/article.cfm?c_id=16&objectid=12251870
23 July 2019
Northland Age by editor Peter Jackson
"Flawed Northland Regional Council decision bound for court"
Northland Regional Council chairman Bill Shepherd's use of his casting vote to break a 4-4 deadlock over the issue of whether or not to include provisions for the management of genetically modified organisms in the council's proposed regional plan has outraged critics of the technology, who have vowed to fight it in court.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2018706360/genetic-modification-northland-council-chair-defends-stance
(It is necessary to ensure that people have the training and wisdom to handle power roles these days. Decisions over matters of science, with large unknown factors and worrying known ones, should not be made by someone who is merely known in the area, has knowledge of farming practices and management, pays his bills on time, and likes a drink with the rugby club after the game. The time to recognise that many have reached beyond their level of understanding and are heading the glass ceiling of The Peter Principle, is now so change can be made within say, two years to something better.)
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/northern-advocate/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503450&objectid=11149980
Mr Shepherd, 68, is a dairy farmer and company director from Purua.
The chairman's role carries a remuneration package of $106,650, which includes a vehicle. The deputy chairman is paid $73,780 and councillors a base salary of $52,700.
Background: http://web.gefreenorthland.org.nz/
Great piece, actually well balance on Pania Newton #Ihumātao gives concise history.
Now we need a story on who these guys are
Te Warena Taua, who chairs both the Makaurau Marae Trust and Te Kawerau ā Maki Tribal Authority, has been openly dismissive, questioning her legitimacy and status.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12254056
Irish bookie:
UK Government to officially announce food rationing in 2019 – 12/1
https://www.paddypower.com/politics/uk-brexit
Lol
Dinosaur bites the dust: "Nathan Guy has announced he will not be seeking re-election next year." https://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=12254079
"I advocated hard for water-storage projects and helped secure funding for a variety of projects including Central Plains stages one and two."
On the idea of an attack on Iran. Chris Trotter looks at historic dates and reasons.
https://bowalleyroad.blogspot.com/2019/07/another-war-with-iran.html
Remember, these were invasions of Iran – not by Iran. As strategic analyst, Dr Paul Buchanan, observes:
“[I]t should be remembered that modern Iran has not engaged in an unprovoked attack on another country. Although it supports and uses irregular military proxies, it is nowhere close to being the sponsor of terrorism that several Sunni Arab petroleum oligarchies are. In spite of its anti-Israel rhetoric (destined for domestic political consumption), it has not fired a shot in anger towards it.”…
The Americans are not daunted. When it comes to the Middle East (and its oil) the behaviour of the United States can only be described as unhinged. When Saddam dared to act independently of the US, the debt America owed his country, for its costly – and ultimately futile – war against its Iranian neighbour, was forgotten in a heartbeat.
And it wasn’t just Saddam who paid dearly for his failure to comprehend the full extent of America’s derangement. When US Secretary of State, Madeline Albright, was asked by CBS’s Lesley Stahl: “We have heard that half a million [Iraqi] children have died. I mean, that’s more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?” Albright replied: “I think this is a very hard choice, but the price — we think the price is worth it.”
NZ academic giving lecture in August: Professor Robert H Wade
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2019/07/30/the-democratic-cost-of-inequality-university-of-auckland/
We worry about poverty, he says, but we should be as concerned about inequality. “Concentrated wealth could undermine our entire political system”.
“There needs to be a register of global wealth to bring more money into the tax system for redistribution. Governments should also be assessing all policies by their effect on inequality,” he says.
Business School public lecture
Monday 12 August
Professor Robert H. Wade: “Why the ‘Trump era’ could last for 30 years.”
6-8pm
University of Auckland
12 Grafton Road.
Register at https://nvite.com/universityofauckland/e76de
Notes: Professor Robert H. Wade was educated at Wellington College, University of Otago, Victoria University of Wellington, and the Institute of Development Studies at the University of Sussex. He has worked at the Institute of Development Studies, the World Bank, Woodrow Wilson School (Princeton University), MIT Sloan School and Brown University.
I put in a submission on the Zero Carbon Bill and have got 22 confirmations for it one after the other.
Good riddance to Nathan Guy he was one of the WORST examples of the last corrupt National government.
Under his watch Mycoplasma Bovis was spread through a large part of our livestock and caused irreparable damage to the rural community but the farmers ( god bless them ) still support and VOTE this type of incompetence !!!
He stood for nothing and never intervened in the worst cases of rural animal cruelty , and cruelty to the under class of this country by the policies he supported.
But that’s ok he is a top kiwi bloke.
He will no doubt end up in a cushy council job or similar job in the private sector.
One of the worst examples of the National and the people who vote for and support this party.
A good practical piece from Greenpeace about Federated Farmers and how ineffectual and irresponsible they are. I think you might find it says what the true situation is bwaghorn?
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2019/07/30/feds-must-stop-kicking-farmers-greenpeace/
I feel that someone who does this hates him or her self. I think they should be operated on to prevent further children. Also have talking sessions so they can get out what is in their minds and see if they can turn around. Something needs to be done with them.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12044444 EXCLUSIVE: Dad of murdered baby Jyniah Te Awa jailed over years of abuse 9/5/2018
Jyniah was left in a closed freezer, hung on the back of a wardrobe door, held against a gas heater, swung around by her short hair and hung on a clothesline.
Her fatal head injury was the result of being kicked, thrown against a wall, shaken and smothered.
Her babysitter Tiana Mary-Anne Odessa Kapea – a relative and close friend of Te Awa – pleaded guilty to murdering the baby and was sentenced to life in prison.
SaveNZ put this up on The Daily Blog O/M
So that is how National gets away with sinking an annoying voice of reason?
Kia kaha students who strike for the preservation of your I Am living off the grid now to minimize Eco Maori carbon footprint.
Tell me again how the school climate strike was 'just a day of your future climate. I am
OPINION: Hi, it's a student here. Yes, one of those students. One of the students that cares about climate change and is all for a strike that will be taking place this Friday. Now that being a student who also cares about the environment is somehow considered a controversial stance, let me explain my point of view.
The way I see it, older generations don't seem to care about the environment, mainly because by the time the consequences of their actions come about, they'll already be six feet under. Pretty easy life, right? I don't blame them. What's the point of changing anything when it won't affect you, right
Well, I, and everyone else my age, don't get that luxury. We're the ones that are going to have to deal with the consequences. Your children, your grandchildren, and possibly, if the planet is still around, your great-grandchildren. We're going to have to deal with fossil fuels heating up the planet, polluted oceans filled with millions of tonnes of dumped plastic congregating into literal islands of trash, the ice caps melting and a raising the sea level. We're going to to be the ones left with the mess we had little part in creating ka kite ano links below.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/opinion/111239644/high-school-student-explains-school-strike-4-climate-nz-to-her-elders?rm=a
Maori and the youth can do lots. Once you get older and start thinking about having a partner and then children, it is harder to go after changing stuff, your time is split up between your various duties and interests. Maori have been splitting themselves for a long time, its been hard but they have persevered and had great leaders to inspire them also. Good for you and us, belatedly stirring ourselves.
Eco Maori thanks Rod Schoonover for making a stand against te climate change deniering fools
White House ‘undercutting evidence' of climate crisis, says analyst who resigned
Rod Schoonover, who was an intelligence analyst for 10 years, said the Trump administration halted his report on global heating
A former senior government analyst has accused the Trump administration of “undercutting evidence” of the threat to national security from the climate crisisafter his report on the issue was blocked by the White House.
Rod Schoonover, who worked as an intelligence analyst for the federal government for 10 years before resigning earlier this month, submitted a written testimony on the “wide-ranging implications” of global heating over the next 20 years, for submission to the House intelligence committee last month.
'People are dying': how the climate crisis has sparked an exodus to the US
But he said on Tuesday that the report was stopped by the White House because his findings “did not comport with administration’s position on climate change”.
That prompted him to leave his post – one of a stream of scientists sidelined or forced out over what critics of the Trump administration characterize as a war on science, because warnings for the dangers of human-caused global heating conflict with the Donald Trump’s industrial objectives. Ka kite ano link below.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jul/30/rod-schoonover-trump-administration-undercutting-climate-crisis-national-security
Kia Ora Newshub.
I agree with Ming Foon tamariki should be able to walk to school safely.
Problems liveing off grid the power system went do but Eco Maori has been out cutting wood all day can you guess who could be tampering with my solar powered system the sandflys.
Ka kite ano
Kia Ora The Am Show.
Its quirky that my solar system plays up when im not home but is charging my battery and running my TV's system with low light the sandflys are turning on my electric and disableing my solar system when im away.
The Fire in Russia is not good for the Papatuanuku Economy Lloyd.
My devices are being tampered with to someone tried to rip the back off my ph .
Duncan I see you changed the color of your underwear once again blue ain't your color.
Ka kite ano P.S last day tomorrow and weekend off a guys
Eco Maori watched the last hour of the Am Show but I had my ph on low power so my words got wiped out every time the screen went blank
Here you go Whanau successive Governments have not invested enough money in The East Cape region for 30 years once we had the economy that was the backbone of Aotearoa that was in the 50s to the 80s .
People always talk about North Land having it tough but Te taiwhiti has a lack of basic services Eco Maori see what they are up to trying to suppress Ngati Porou Mana Yea Right they will never succeed.
The East Cape is one of the most remote regions in New Zealand.
Corrina Parata is the only midwife for 200kilometres along this rugged coastline, delivering the first babies in the world in heartland Ngāti Porou territory.
She might be the last ka kite ano link below.
https://interactives.stuff.co.nz/2019/08/last-midwife-east-coast-maori-te-puia-springs/
Whanau The Sandflys are swarming marked cop cars everywhere don't they have real criminals to find but Eco Maori has the skills to counteract their bullies bullshit Thanks for the MANA
Kia Ora Newshub.
So because 1 persons dies and Mark Mitchell wants to lock up more Maori because of his ancient values and views on Weed isn't he a x cop and a contractor for the cops for years Eco Maori say throw his views into the history books.
The road spikes left on a road by the cops You see Whanau they are not perfect as they try a portray but suppressing most bad things they do it's a illusion. More proof the gun lobbyists issues.
I think it's a great Idea to have a council watch dog as there are to many issues with our water and other services that should be provided by the councils
That would be awesome having a tax on fatty and sugary foods and drinks. Thanks for that study that provides that a tax on those foods will work. Ma te Wa.
That's not on trading Moar bones can be legally traded extinct animals parts
Ingrid its cold in Hawksbay but not as cold as so were trying to spin
Ka kite ano
Kia Ora Te Ao Maori News.
I think the Water service bill is needed to make sure our taonga wai still has a healthy environment forever .
There was a gas station stunt bp giving away free gas looks like it made a lot of people happy.
Its awesome to see that Our Coalition Governments and the Provincial growth fund is investing more money in Te taiwhiti roads they are bad one can easily notice the difference from the reads in Opotiki they are good roads but once you go through the gorge the roads are bad Eco Maori gives thanks for that.
It is hard to sorte out bad students Eco Maori feels for the teachers who have to attend to mischief tamariki its worst with the anti smacking bill that has just created a lot of tamariki who have respect for no one they don't even know the meaning of the words Eco Maori solar system is going great
Its Its awesome that the Hawaiians have been given some respect from the ruling class in Hawaii kia kaha Eco Maori tau toko you
Ka kite ano