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1. butnahyeahnah 1

   15 July 2010 at 12:26 am

   How about we tackle the fact that any global climate change happens as a direct result of uncontrolled population expansion and that any attempt to address “man made climate change” with out raising and dealing with this issue is not only hollow, but leads people down the garden path of distraction?
   • Zorr 1.1

     15 July 2010 at 12:51 am

     How about we just tackle climate change, full stop? Population growth is a part of the greater issue but by choosing to raise it as a single issue is exactly what you are claiming to want to stop – the focusing on only one part of the issue while ignoring others. I don’t think you will find anyone who is about finding a solution to the issue stating that population isn’t a concern – but we deal with the situation we have, not the situation we wish we had. The timeline we are looking at is over the next, what, 20-40 years as far as taking action (if not sooner) – what do you want us to do? Draw straws?
     • ZombieBusiness 1.1.1

       18 July 2010 at 10:10 pm

       Oil is energy dense, new oil reserves are not being found, peak oil is here
       or will be soon. What does this mean? Well if you want to raise a seawall
       because of rising seas then you have to use oil in big bulldozers. Which
       will now cost more, now a barrel of oil cost more that $70 and when the
       world economy gets going again $100?

       But wait its worse! Many of the impacts of pollution don’t show up
       immediately, and only when the abatement of pollution become uneconomic
       due to the energy resource running down, that we start becoming concerned.
       Because cleaning up pollution costs megadollars, look at New Orleans,
       or the Mexica Gulf spill. Its costs more now to clean up than it did 10 years ago!
       And in 10 years it will be cheaper to let it the oil degrade naturally!
       And I’m not saying more in finance money, I’m talking in oil barrel money.

       So economies that grew did so because new oil reserves came on tap, allow
       more people to have cars, have lavish lifestyles, grow more motorways for
       yet more cars. But wait! No more growth will come from more oil since
       all major reserves have been in production for years, our growth has to come
       using oil more efficiently! But it won’t be enough, because out sprawling
       surburbs were costed by people driving in car running oil at cheap oil prices!

       The only reason corparates are finally taking climate change seriously is
       because the money is in doing more with less, bringing alternative energy to
       the market. But it will never be enough, since it takes energy to pull
       rocks out of the ground and turn them into cars. You see pollution isn’t
       the only phenomia you start costing to much when peak oil is hit! Its our whole
       way we waste energy, and its not until the oil peaks do we see how
       utterly over populated we are! And we were not going to see the
       tipping point until we passed it. And its not just climate change,
       excessive population, oil peak, its one whole majestic kluster-up.
       The way we work, we live, we do everything is wrongly costed,
       wrongly built, prohibitively expensive by the cost of a barrel of
       oil in a decades time.

       Welcome to the tipping point.
   • Pascal's bookie 1.2

     15 July 2010 at 5:16 am

     as a direct result

     Indirect result actually. And it’s an indirect result of lots of things.
     • Butyeahbutnahyeahnah 1.2.1

       15 July 2010 at 8:36 am

       Yes Zorr, draw straws – or fill as many brown countries with Depleted Uranium as possible, encircle, divide and conqcer then biggest offenders all the while pretenting that carbon emmissions have nought to do with population. (I’ll restate as a question then – can you please tell me of any enviromental f’up that doesn’t have a whole bunch of greedy people of either side of it?)
       If we had zero population growth world wide for a couple of generations we wouldn’t have this problem at all as the less people you share resources with, the longer they will last and the less pressure you put onto said system.
       If we are going to cap and trade anything, it should be peiople. Salvery is the only sytem we have invented that lasts milliena. – Full Spectrum Dominance – thats what I’m talking about, the militaries of the Anglo-Saxon 5 and their allies are already about half way through. Next all you need to do is close down open society, (give the police restrictive power and guns), while running diversions based of the three great human motivators; ‘greed, fear and apathy’.
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   • Quay 1.3

     15 July 2010 at 8:48 am

     ‘uncontrolled population expansion’ is just one factor, but one that could be more prominent in the future. Shifting the global warming blame to poorer countries, who have current high growth rates, is what I’d call a distraction from the real issues. eg, uncontrolled industrialisation
     • Butyeahbutnahyeahnah 1.3.1

       15 July 2010 at 11:09 am

       You need a certain population density to have effective industry. Et Arcadia Ego
2. Carol 2

   15 July 2010 at 7:21 am

   So climate change is an issue for heterosexual men to attend to? Or is it because such men are the ones responsible for global watming?
   • Lanthanide 2.1

     15 July 2010 at 10:07 am

     Sex sells, yes, but I think that women and others would still be surprised about seeing other women scantily clad in the normally-frozen north.
   • jcuknz 2.2

     15 July 2010 at 10:24 am

     Hetrosexual woman play their part too
     We can only hope that ‘nature’ in its wonderful way will cause us stupid humans to produce more gays to combat the population explosion.
     • Butyeahbutnahyeahnah 2.2.1

       15 July 2010 at 11:08 am

       The falling sperm count of the western world will probably be more prevalent in it’s affect and if it not the current economic system birthing an idiotcracy surely will.
       • jcuknz 2.2.1.1

         15 July 2010 at 1:49 pm

         I you are correct Buty I would give nature the credit for both. A side note, I find it fascinating how the security words here so often seem to have a relevance to the subject under discussion 🙂
         • Macro 2.2.1.1.1

           15 July 2010 at 9:47 pm

           The falling sperm count in Western countries is attributable to increasing estrogenic like compounds in our environment leaching from plastics. It is also causing girls to reach puberty much earlier. In some cases as early as 6 years old.
   • Bill 2.3

     15 July 2010 at 11:41 am

     “So climate change is an issue for heterosexual men to attend to?”

     Yup. Leave it to the experts. Run along now. Shoo! We’ll soon bring nature to heal.
3. QoT 3

   17 July 2010 at 1:12 am

   I think Carol’s hit the nail on the head. If the real underlying message is “grab people’s attention” and “jarring” imagery, why are there only swimsuit-clad women? Hardly an unexpected image in any context given modern advertising …

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